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Microsoft Phasing Out FAST Search For Linux, Unix

Soulskill posted more than 4 years ago | from the going-away dept.

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viralMeme writes "Microsoft plans to begin phasing out Unix and Linux platform support for its FAST enterprise search products, as of its next release. According to a Thursday blog post from Microsoft Distinguished Engineer Bjørn Olstad, 'We’ve continued to sell, support, and update the Linux and UNIX versions of FAST ESP, and we’ve designed the next wave of FAST products (scheduled for release in the first half of calendar year 2010) to include a cross-platform search core that has been extended to take advantage of web services and support mixed-platform deployment models. With our 2010 products scheduled for release in a few months, we’ve just started to plan for our next wave of products. As a part of that planning process, we have decided that in order to deliver more innovation per release in the future, the 2010 products will be the last to include a search core that runs on Linux and UNIX. Many of our customers run FAST ESP on Linux and UNIX today, and we recognize that our future focus on Windows means change. To ease the transition, we’re investing in interoperability between Windows and other operating systems, reaffirming our commitment to 10 years of support for our non-Windows products, and taking concrete steps to help customers plan for the future.'"

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Fear and Opportunity (2, Insightful)

dreamchaser (49529) | more than 4 years ago | (#31072990)

It's a clear sign that MS still has a (probably growing) fear of *nix, especially Linux.

It's also an opportunity for some enterprising company or group to fill the void. All it will do is cost MS some sales. I doubt many organizations will migrate to Windows Server just for FAST.

Re:Fear and Opportunity (4, Insightful)

Bert64 (520050) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073100)

You'd be surprised... This is how MS got in to start with.
Years ago, windows machines were only used for lowend desktops (hence why its called windows - named after its gui) but they gradually got pushed out to servers because users built up a familiarity with it.

And nothing was lost (3, Insightful)

SgtChaireBourne (457691) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073146)

FAST died on the vine a long time ago. It was a dot-com that just missed the tail of the dot-com mania. So they sold their hype to Microsoft and then disappeared off the face of the planet until this week. Track down the marketeers that stired up the FAST mud again.

Re:And nothing was lost (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31073688)

I can't speak for the commercial side of FAST ESP, but I've worked with it in the public sector where it's used in some big projects for the NHS here in the UK (but running on Windows platforms as the government is in bed with MS and the NHS is so intertwined with the company now there's little other choice). I didn't develop for it directly, just some interface stuff, but the general consensus was that it's needlessly overcomplicated in order to sell consultancy services, and needlessly wasteful of resources in order to sell hardware.

Re:And nothing was lost (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31074016)

You have no idea what you are talking about. Gardner has consistently rated FAST as either the #1 or #2 search engine technology. And under the hood, FAST was very open-source friendly -- most of the building blocks to make it came from open source projects. It was a VERY Linux friendly product. But when they sold out to Microsoft the writing was on the wall.

Re:Fear and Opportunity (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31074434)

And in other news they're starting to get their butt kicked out of the entertainment industry [sourceforge.net] too.

Re:Fear and Opportunity (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 4 years ago | (#31074790)

Well, I'd certainly not migrate to Windows for FAST. I'd guess it would make my machine SLOWer.

cool (3, Interesting)

JustNiz (692889) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073004)

The more they tighten their grip, the more the world will slip through their fingers.

Re:cool (4, Insightful)

Bert64 (520050) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073118)

Yes, but how much does it hurt the world to be squeezed out through someone's fingers...

Re:cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31073272)

That depends, is the next red-ring-of-death fully operational on Microsoft's secret xbox 720?

Re:cool (2, Funny)

TDyl (862130) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073694)

About as much as having your brain smashed out by a slice of lemon wrapped around a large tarnished gold win server 2k3 box.

Re:cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31075316)

Its slimming!

Uh, yeah... (5, Insightful)

dwiget001 (1073738) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073008)

"...As a part of that planning process, we have decided that in order to deliver more innovation per release in the future, the 2010 products will be the last to include a search core that runs on Linux and UNIX...."

Translation:

"We are canning Linux and UNIX support to solidify Microsoft lock-in."

Re:Uh, yeah... (1)

hey (83763) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073154)

Yeah, no kidding.
Of course it would be impossible to do innovation on the *nix platforms too.

Re:Uh, yeah... (3, Insightful)

ircmaxell (1117387) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073306)

Well, yeah, but then they say this:

To ease the transition, we're investing in interoperability between Windows and other operating systems, reaffirming our commitment to 10 years of support for our non-Windows products, and taking concrete steps to help customers plan for the future.

I'm REALLY confused now. So they are dropping *NIX support, to futher their goal of interoperability? WTF? Can someone explain how these 2 are NOT related?

Either that, or the subtext of "reaffirming (their) commitment" by dropping non-win os support sheds some insight on their "commitment" in the first place...

Re:Uh, yeah... (2, Insightful)

Third Position (1725934) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073886)

To ease the transition, we're investing in interoperability between Windows and other operating systems, reaffirming our commitment to 10 years of support for our non-Windows products, and taking concrete steps to help customers plan for the future.

That's certainly considerate of them, isn't it? /sarc

Re:Uh, yeah... (1)

tlhIngan (30335) | more than 4 years ago | (#31074236)

To ease the transition, we're investing in interoperability between Windows and other operating systems, reaffirming our commitment to 10 years of support for our non-Windows products, and taking concrete steps to help customers plan for the future.

I'm REALLY confused now. So they are dropping *NIX support, to futher their goal of interoperability? WTF? Can someone explain how these 2 are NOT related?

Easy, they said they drop UNIX (and Linux) support, and will encourage people to migrate to Windows. In the meantime, they will offer support for their Services for Unix product to ease the transition. (SFU is a bunch of services - NFS, NIS, etc that run on Windows - and naturally integrates into Active Directory). It's how you get interoperability between Unix and Windows, with Windows being the "master" of course.

Re:Uh, yeah... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31074848)

SFU in Storage Server 2003 r2 has issues with permissions and ids

Works well with Windows. Sucks with Unix.

Re:Uh, yeah... (0)

dirtyhippie (259852) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073454)

Have you written code that runs on more than one platform? It's a real headache, and the headache goes up exponentially as the number of systems do. By focusing on one platform, they have the ability to use their resources to innovate and not just port. People using FAST ESP don't care what OS it's running on - just buy a windows machine for it if you don't have one. And who wants to run MS code on a linux/unix box these days anyway?

Re:Uh, yeah... (2, Interesting)

WinterSolstice (223271) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073616)

True. If they care, they buy Google's enterprise search instead.

I actually had to look up what these guys do (did), since I've never heard of them. Got these Google appliances all over, though.

Re:Uh, yeah... (2, Insightful)

ocularsinister (774024) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073824)

Two words: "Java" and "Qt"*. Writing a cross platform tool kit is hard. Fortunately, someone has already done that. Several times, in fact. If you are trying to write cross platform code and you are not writing a tool kit, then you are probably using the wrong tool for the job.

* Yes, I know there are others...

Re:Uh, yeah... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31073854)

Have you written code that runs on more than one platform? It's a real headache (...)

Must ... resist ... lame ... Java ... joke ....

Re:Uh, yeah... (2, Insightful)

Imagix (695350) | more than 4 years ago | (#31074052)

Yes, routinely. And it's not that hard to do while you're not attempting to twiddle with either OS internals, or direct hardware. And even for those, there's likely an interop layer that exists, or could be written, to smooth over even those differences. It _does_ require some discipline when coding though.

Re:Uh, yeah... (-1, Troll)

sexconker (1179573) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073798)

"To ease the transition, we’re investing in interoperability between Windows and other operating systems, reaffirming our commitment to 10 years of support for our non-Windows products, and taking concrete steps to help customers plan for the future."

Translation:

"Any slashdotter bitching about us dropping UNIX FAST in 10 years is a fucking idiot - we will support it for 10 fucking years, it will still work after that, and if you're one of the 8 people who use it we'll help you switch to something else."

Re:Uh, yeah... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31074314)

I think it is secret code that tries to tell people that purchase products but don't understand them one bit that "We gave this thing 'Linux' thing a try, but EVERYONE CAN AGREE that continuing to try to support this clearly inferior kids toy and get back to making things for big time special executive people like you!"

Instead of FUD, next version of Microsoft product you don't understand comes FREE with an ego stroke you would normally cost you $5 from a homeless guy in a back alley.

Remind me... why is MONO a good thing (4, Insightful)

Rob Y. (110975) | more than 4 years ago | (#31074732)

This is exactly why nobody should ever get sucked into Microsoft 'interoperability' ploys. They are not about interoperability. They are always about extending the MS monopoly into areas that they could not reach without paying lip service to interoperability.

"more innovation per release" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31073030)

Innovation is a unit of measurement now? Is that imperial or metric innovations?

Re:"more innovation per release" (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31073242)

That's measured in units of "we only know how to program in VB" but you can probably also eyeball the results in units of "this is where we push our lock-in velocity to plaid".

It's a company after all... (5, Insightful)

Robert Zenz (1680268) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073076)

"...and taking concrete steps to help customers plan for the future."
Reads:
"We'll try to force everyone to use Windows in the future."

Well...who expected something different anyway?

Re:It's a company after all... (1)

courteaudotbiz (1191083) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073258)

Well...who expected something different anyway?

Well, I did... [Find / Replace] "in the future" --> "Right now"

I'll continue using Linux (1, Insightful)

okmijnuhb (575581) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073088)

Linux is getting better and better, with more features added, and I'm not a pawn in corporate revenue/greed/forced upgrade strategy.

Thanks Linux.
F.U. Microsoft.

Re:I'll continue using Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31073216)

Yeah, you're not doing too bad of a job of following the bread crumbs that were left for you to follow.

What is it? Nearly 20 years now with not an original thought going through your heads?

Re:I'll continue using Linux (2, Insightful)

Robert Zenz (1680268) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073750)

You mean like a real Multi-User-Environment which UNIX copied 40 years ago from Microsoft? Or the headless-server-mode which 'invented' Microsoft in 2008? Or the Desktop-Effects/Widgets which Gnome/KDE copied 2002? Or the OpenDocument-Format which was just a former copy of OOXML? Or Firefox which was just a cheap copy of Internet Explorer 7?

Re:I'll continue using Linux (1)

Ltap (1572175) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073818)

I honestly can't tell if you're trying to troll or make a point about Windows copying *nix. It's too obvious for a troll, but too unclear to be an interesting point.

Re:I'll continue using Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31074562)

I honestly can't tell if you're trying to troll or make a point about Windows copying *nix. It's too obvious for a troll, but Bob's grammar is so bad as to render the message unreadable for it to be an interesting point.

FTFY

--

Anonymous Grammar Nazi

(You know you secretly want to be me.)

Re:I'll continue using Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31073902)

we were talking about linux. stupid fanboi.

Re:I'll continue using Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31074744)

You mean like a real Multi-User-Environment which UNIX copied 40 years ago from Microsoft?

I thought it was copied from MULICS.

Or the headless-server-mode which 'invented' Microsoft in 2008?

Still not seeing Linux as the inventor of that one, either.

Or the Desktop-Effects/Widgets which Gnome/KDE copied 2002?

It's a (admittedly much better implemented) copy of Active Desktop, yes. And I can't remember, but I vaguely remember NeXT having something along those lines too.

Or the OpenDocument-Format which was just a former copy of OOXML?

The two are nowhere near copies. ODF is a much simpler (in both implementation and capabilities) format.

Or Firefox which was just a cheap copy of Internet Explorer 7?

No, it was a cheap copy of Opera.

I'm sorry, You failed to come up with a convincing argument that Linux (Or Open Source in general) is a source of innovation.

Monoculture, yes monoculture! (3, Insightful)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073098)

All hail the IT monoculture! Praise and glory to the brand!

Re:Monoculture, yes monoculture! (4, Insightful)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 4 years ago | (#31074890)

You know what's funny? How German and English words look and sound the same but have entirely different meanings. "Gift" means poison in German. "Mist" is dung. And "brand" is burning (the fire kind as well as the technical grinding wear kind). It could also mean mildew. And necrosis.

I find it funny how often English words unintentionally have a far truer meaning when used as their German homonyms.

Re:Monoculture, yes monoculture! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31075056)

All hail the IT monoculture! Praise and glory to the brand!

Wait! How did Apple get into the discussion?

Oh no!! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31073114)

Oh no!! How will the Linux and Unix communities cope?!?
Who gives a shit?!?!

Thats why theres lucene (5, Interesting)

cridanb (687817) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073138)

Lucene has the same abilities as FAST and is a lot more efficient , its used by most of the ediscovery vendors and its free in it base format yes you will have to do some work on the interface and other support areas but its the solution to MS ditching Linux support for search

Re:Thats why theres lucene (4, Funny)

ultranova (717540) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073530)

Lucene has the same abilities as FAST and is a lot more efficient

That's clearly nonsense. Which of these programs is named after the very concept of high velocity?

BTW: What does FAST do, anyway?

Re:Thats why theres lucene (3, Interesting)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073718)

Heh. I'm wondering why anyone is concerned about it myself.

Welcome FAST Customers

On April, 25, 2008, Microsoft completed its acquisition of FAST Search & Transfer, opening a new chapter in enterprise search. By combining the innovation and agility of FAST with the discipline and resources of Microsoft, our customers get the best of both worlds: market-leading products from a trusted technology partner.

http://www.microsoft.com/enterprisesearch/en/us/fast-customer.aspx [microsoft.com]

So - they acquired something less than two years ago, now they decide they don't like it, can't support it, and many of us never knew about it to start with. To my knowledge, I've never made use of it. Unless it was used on the net by some god-awful behind-the-scenes server.

For the most part, Google has satisfied all my search requirements for years now. Do they use FAST? Didn't think so, LOL

Re:Thats why theres lucene (5, Interesting)

FrozenFOXX (1048276) | more than 4 years ago | (#31074262)

We use FAST at our organization. Verity (or rather the company that owned Verity search) was trying to pull a fast one on us with licensing so we had to drop them for our document indexing and we received FAST as a donation from MS as they, and many other companies, donate quite a few things to us.

We went with FAST as opposed to a Google Search Appliance because at the time the Google box couldn't do one thing we needed desperately without some serious hacking and ill-advisement from Google (I'll give it to Google, they were straight up with us that it was a bad idea at the time with their software. Kudos to them for honesty, makes me want to buy their stuff in the future). We have documents, several thousand, that come in nightly by HTML that need to be indexed complete with search term highlighting by 7am the next morning. The system has approximately three hours to do this job. If it cannot, an essential resource in our business (which shall remain nameless but suffice it to say "lives are at stake") suffers. Google's indexing at the time was somewhat lazy in that it would index things as fast as it could but could not guarantee that 21 hours of intake would be ready to search perfectly 3 hours later. FAST could. Simple as that.

It deeply saddens me that they're dropping the Linux platform as that's how ours was built and even the engineers that came out to build it loved working on it (RHEL for those interested). It's not unexpected, and we'll find another indexer in a few years just like we always have to due to bullcrap like this but I was hoping that once, just freakin once, MS could actually use someone else's work to their advantage WITHOUT slapping their customers. Seriously, is Not Invented Here such a big freakin deal?

But hey, whatever, we all knew it would happen anyway. For what it's worth FAST on Linux is fucking awesome from our experience (and we've got nearly a million non-trivial documents and workload it has to contend with).

Re:Thats why theres lucene (1)

delinear (991444) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073894)

Not sure if that's a serious question, but it's a search engine that can index across multiple data formats (so where I worked we used it to index a bunch of associated sites' data that had no single delivery format, so sometimes we'd be indexing a PDF or Word document, other times we'd have to follow a link to some content in an iframe, etc. as well as plugging into a disparate bunch of local databases which were slowly being migrated/converged). It also has some UI features implemented out of the box, but it's all a little messy and to use it properly you end up writing a ton of your own code on top of their code to make it behave the way it should.

Re:Thats why theres lucene (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31073966)

You might not know this but Lucene is latin for really really fast... true story!

Fuel And Sensor Tactical (1)

Tetsujin (103070) | more than 4 years ago | (#31074172)

BTW: What does FAST do, anyway?

Well, see, while the Valkyries were developed to work in both atmospheric and space flight, the intakes (which act as hydrogen scoops for the fusion reactors in the engines) aren't able to get sufficient fuel out in space, so the fighter's operational range is quite limited. The FAST packs address this problem by providing a large reserve of fuel for the fighter, as well as a bit of extra armor and missiles to increase the fighter's offensive power... But with the added bulk of the FAST packs the Valkyrie ceases to be effective in atmospheric combat, so they must be ejected prior to atmospheric flight.

All the hype about 2012 is wrong. The Zentradi bombardment will be happening later this year...

Re:Thats why theres lucene (1)

cridanb (687817) | more than 4 years ago | (#31074376)

fast is the worse named product ever as it is quite slow on index and moderately speedy on search but by modern standards not fast

Re:Thats why theres lucene (1)

fritsd (924429) | more than 4 years ago | (#31074446)

I once programmed a bit for a company that still had a database system called SPEED-II, which ran on a Wang minicomputer. You *REALLY* don't want to know....

Re:Thats why theres lucene (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31074648)

BTW: What does FAST do, anyway?

It's an enterprise search engine, which is actually behind-the-scenes in a surprising number of high-profile places - such as the Chicago Tribune and Financial Times web sites. While I was contracting for them, there were also projects involving a few medical companies and LexisNexis.

Re:Thats why theres lucene (1)

Lord Grey (463613) | more than 4 years ago | (#31074336)

Lucene has the same abilities as FAST and is a lot more efficient , its used by most of the ediscovery vendors and its free in it base format yes you will have to do some work on the interface and other support areas but its the solution to MS ditching Linux support for search

You clearly know less, or assume more, than you think you do.

Lucene is a great search engine. But neither it nor its commercial add-ons can touch what FAST can do in its entirety. When you have hundreds of millions of document to search, tens of millions of those documents to update throughout a single day, a requirement to deliver any single updated document within minutes of the update to an end user, and keep it all running 7x24, you don't want to use Lucene.

Sure, you could "do some work on the interface and other support areas" and make it work. Eventually. I could probably write something much faster myself, in hand-coded assembler. But I, like a lot of other people out there, have better things to do with my time.

Re:Thats why theres lucene (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31074382)

Learn where to put periods between your sentences.

Poor design? (1)

auntieNeo (1605623) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073198)

It amuses me how he says:

we've designed the next wave of FAST products (scheduled for release in the first half of calendar year 2010) to include a cross-platform search core

but immediately after that he says:

in order to deliver more innovation per release in the future, the 2010 products will be the last to include a search core that runs on Linux and UNIX

It sounds to me like one of two things happened. Either they decided to stop designing their product, or management decided that they didn't like *nix. And to think, you'd be hard pressed to find a mainstream open source app not ported to three or more platforms. Proprietary software is silly. :(

Re:Poor design? (1)

Ltap (1572175) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073882)

Yeah. There are some great examples of this. Not the usual programs that are ported to the major 3 (Mac, Linux, Windows) but ones that have support for everything, like fbreader, which works on Windows, Mac, Linux, Android, and some Nokia phones.

SLOW Search Thingie? (1)

quangdog (1002624) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073228)

Seems to me that if they are going to drop the FAST searching they should continue to support the SLOW search that we all know and love.

It is a tiny market. (4, Informative)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073252)

The total *revenue* last year in enterprise search is just 1.1 billion dollars, according to Gartner, according to the article. It is going to touch 2 billion may be in 2013, again according the article. Considering that Microsoft gets 6.5 billion dollars *profit* per quarter, this is chump change. Further, Google is synonymous with search. It sells the Google Server in a Box, that does mail, calender, shared docs all behind the firewall of the client, unreachable by either the pings from the internet, or by subpoena. If this market segment grows, it is going to be growing the way Google wants it.

Re:It is a tiny market. (1)

hey (83763) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073428)

I could see that measly 2 billion growing as it becomes more integrated into other stuff in the enterprise.

Re:It is a tiny market. (1)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073866)

There was a time Microsoft could just wonder aloud about entering a market segment and all venture capital in that area would just evaporate, faster than water spilled on a Dubai sidewalk. It could withdraw support for this or that, and there would be virtual stampede to stop using the end-of-lifed product. Those were the old days when Microsoft got lots of undeserved benefit.

Now the market pendulum has swung around. Venture capital would flow to every niche vacated by Microsoft. Microsoft would be blamed and penalized, much of it undeservedly. But that is the regression to the mean. This is the time it pays back all that undeserved benefits it booked in late 1990s.

do the math (1)

the_fat_kid (1094399) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073618)

it's not chump change.
I make a little over $10,000 quarterly.
For $1700 I will dance a jig.
Hell, for $1700 I might even try windows.

Re:do the math (1)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073962)

You are confusing revenue with profit. When the market is that small your costs are amortized over a smaller customer base and the margins are much smaller. Microsoft has high employee cost and benefits. If it takes in 1 billion it would just barely break even or book a profit of 20 or 30 million bucks. It would get better returns if it just parks a billion on long term bond index fund something like 5.5% to 6%.

Would you dance a jig for 34$?

Re:It is a tiny market. (2, Informative)

liquiddark (719647) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073738)

Nobody's buying Google products in the enterprise search sector. Endeca, FAST, Lucene, yes. Google? Not likely, unless you count Google Desktop Search. Google doesn't even pitch enterprise search right now. They're focused on a much less fickle set of markets. If you've never experienced a pitch by an enterprise search vendor, you don't know what you're talking about. These guys do things that appear to literally be magical in nature, organizing millions of highly custom data points into a coherent data set and slapping a slick UI over top in a matter of weeks.

WTF is FAST? (-1, Flamebait)

Kartoffel (30238) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073268)

Would it kill you to spell out the damn acronym at least once in the article summary?

Re:WTF is FAST? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31073366)

It isn't an acronym, it is a product name.

FAST Search. Microsoft bought them last year. Microsoft tried to get their Enterprise Search to work and failed multiple times and finally gave up and bought FAST since FAST kept taking their business.

Re:WTF is FAST? (1)

Kartoffel (30238) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073586)

Ahh, thank you. I thought it actually stood for something, but it was just a goofy product name with caps lock stuck in the awesome position.

Re:WTF is FAST? (1)

delinear (991444) | more than 4 years ago | (#31074020)

Actually I believe (well this is what I told when we worked with them just after the MS acquisition) that it's a "backronym" based on the name of the company who originally developed the platform, Fast Search & Transfer ASA (I know it doesn't make sense, even as a backronym which tend to make little sense to start with, but they're Norwegian so maybe it's a lost in translation thing).

Re:WTF is FAST? (1)

delinear (991444) | more than 4 years ago | (#31074058)

Just to add to this, the reason we were told this is because our reaction was pretty much the same as yours, i.e. does this stand for something or did they really just call their search platform the equivalent of SUPER-AWESOME-SEARCH!!!! ;)

Re:WTF is FAST? (2, Interesting)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073888)

Embrace, extend, and what, exactly? Oh yeah - EXTINGUISH FAST!! Tell me it isn't so - wasn't Microsoft turning over a new leaf, or something? Phhht.

Re:WTF is FAST? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31073380)

Yes.

Re:WTF is FAST? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31073392)

Indeed: "Microsoft plans to begin phasing out Unix and Linux platform support for something nobody has heard of or cares about....."

shiT! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31073310)

of HIV and other OUTER SPACE THE

Who cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31073316)

Never heard of it before.

I don't use FAST or Lucene but I suspect (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31073410)

That innovation per cycle might mean fix and add more vulnerabilities per cycle. Can't have the Unix/Linux version showing up the Microsoft version without more vulnerabilities to fix and so few added..

Invention of Lock-in (4, Funny)

Statecraftsman (718862) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073494)

Hi I'm Steve. I work for Microsoft and I'm going to ask you to keep buying Microsoft products. There's not much new here, we've decided make this software run only on Microsoft products so that should help you decide. If you don't use FAST, this probably won't affect you but we're looking for more ways to get you to use only Microsoft. Thanks!

Trend? (1)

srpape (1735974) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073696)

They just dropped support for the original XBox live too. Are they looking for ways to tick off customers or what?

This just in! (1)

gaelfx (1111115) | more than 4 years ago | (#31073716)

In a surprise move, Microsoft announced today that more innovation actually means less compatibility. More on this at 11. In other news, the South Pole will now be referred to as the North Pole and East will become West. No word from Santa yet on how this will affect next year's operations.

Whoah... (3, Insightful)

c (8461) | more than 4 years ago | (#31074154)

amazing how nobody saw that one coming...

Seriously, folks, is this really news? I'd imagine that when Microsoft does a takeover these days, one of the criteria they're using is "are we going to have a repeat of the Hotmail clusterfuck?" They were planning on doing this before they bought the company, and the only question was when and what excuse they'd be using...

c.

Surprising (1)

aceofspades1217 (1267996) | more than 4 years ago | (#31074496)

Microsoft not wanting to support a competitor to its core product, particularly a competitor that is kicking their ass in the server market...how surprising.

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