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Iran Suspends Google's Email Service

timothy posted more than 4 years ago | from the single-payer-system dept.

Censorship 436

appl_iran writes "Iran's telecommunications agency announced that it would be suspending Google's email services permanently, saying it would roll out its own national email service." From the short WSJ article that is kernel of this Reuters story: "An Iranian official said the measure was meant to boost local development of Internet technology and to build trust between people and the government." Funny way to go about that. Updated 20100211 9:54GMT by timothy: Original link swapped for a more appropriate, updated one.

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frist (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31091124)

w00t!

Re:frist (5, Funny)

zill (1690130) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091338)

If you're were in Iran you would have been stoned to death already.

I'm pretty sure the Great Prophet Muhammad explicitly forbade trolling.

Re:frist (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31091418)

I'm pretty sure the Great Prophet Muhammad explicitly forbade trolling.

Wrong. Muhammad was one of the first trolls in the history of humanity. Being a delusional child rapist who pulled a new "religion" out of his ass, only L. Ron Hubbard was able to out-troll Muhammad.

Re:frist (1)

zill (1690130) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091502)

I'm pretty sure the Great Prophet Muhammad explicitly forbade trolling.

Wrong. Muhammad was one of the first trolls in the history of humanity. Being a delusional child rapist who pulled a new "religion" out of his ass, only L. Ron Hubbard was able to out-troll Muhammad.

Which nicely explains why he explicitly forbade everyone else from trolling.

Iran Shmiran (0)

Airdorn (1094879) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091136)

"Just nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."

Re:Iran Shmiran (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31091296)

I vote to call it "New Iowa"

Re:Iran Shmiran (2, Insightful)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091728)

It's ironic some people around here only have a problem with Iran's actions because it's not a democracy, rather than because of any freedom of speech, association, or business rights.

China lead the way. (5, Insightful)

eparker05 (1738842) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091140)

"to build trust between people and government"

Because, as China has shown, censoring communication is the fastest and easiest way to built trust. Go Iran!

Re:China lead the way. (5, Funny)

the_povinator (936048) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091164)

This storyline sucks because it has no moral ambiguity in it.

Re:China lead the way. (1)

phoenix321 (734987) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091218)

The Ministry Of Truth has a much more sensitive way to tell this.

"More trust between people and government", and trust begins with knowing who is who and where he lives, right?

Re:China lead the way. (1)

eparker05 (1738842) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091322)

In the mind of a tyrant:
Trust == respect == fear

Re:China lead the way. (2, Funny)

flitty (981864) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091346)

"Because, as China has shown, censoring communication is the fastest and easiest way to built trust." Go Iran!

Right! At least that's what all my friends in China say when they e-mail me.

Re:China lead the way. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31091392)

Because, as China has shown, censoring communication is the fastest and easiest way to built trust. Go Iran!

I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic or you believe this. Just for the record, Americans are much less "trusting" of their government than Chinese people. There is this idea that since we (Americans) see what is going on from the outside that they must see the same and have the same opinion. This is just not the case. Here is an example of the differences.

http://www.pewinternet.org/Reports/2008/Most-Chinese-Say-They-Approve-of-Government-Internet-Control.aspx
Note: you will need to view the research in PDF format.

Re:China lead the way. (1)

Arancaytar (966377) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091480)

Well duh, being able to read your emails removes the strain for the government to trust you, while also training you to entrust your government with your secrets. Hence, trust-building. :P

Re:China lead the way. (1)

digitalunity (19107) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091760)

If the US government tried that, I'd tell them to take a flying leap. I run my own mail server because even google and yahoo don't strike me as sensitive to my privacy desires.

Re:China lead the way. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31091724)

You act as though the Iranian government believes it's own propaganda. Who ever said propaganda was supposed to be true, or believable? You act surprised, but in reality totalitarianism is the rule in human history, not the exception.

Re:China lead the way. (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091758)

They probably think of this [wikipedia.org] type of trust, where the managed property is your opinion, and the government manages it.

frist (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31091150)

frist

Re:frist (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31091252)

first

stupid

Re:frist (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31091438)

Edit: sutpid.

More jobs in iran (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31091186)

Consequently, there are now several hundred job openings for "Proof Reading"

Re:More jobs in iran (1)

Bill, Shooter of Bul (629286) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091366)

Not "Proof Reading" thats not new speak at all. "Patriotic Email Friend" ( It will get better in translation to Farsi, I think).

What you don't want your patriotic friend to read your email? Thats not being a very good friend, or patriot!

Build trust? (4, Insightful)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091192)

Is this the same Irani government which torturers people to try and gain Facebook passwords so they can better track groups who want to discuss politics freely?

Forcing users to use a government monitored service doesn't sound like something that would build trust. It sounds like a move to crush dissent.

Well of course (4, Insightful)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091292)

They are an extremely oppressive government, of course their goal is to crush dissent. Goes double since they are rather worried now since there was a big uprising recently over the rigged elections.

However, something you'll also discover about many oppressive government is they love lying. They are so used to the idea that their official word is "the truth" that they lie all the time and seem to think everyone, including other countries, will believe the bullshit. Hence they don't tell their people, or the world, that this is to crush dissent, they make up BS about trying to build trust.

We've seen it all before in many other oppressive places, and I'm sure we'll see it all again.

Re:Well of course (4, Insightful)

v1 (525388) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091564)

I think it's also more a case of they lie, you know they lie, they know you know they lie, and they DON'T CARE.

Not much you can do at that point besides feel sorry for their citizens. It's a waste of time to catch someone in a lie that doesn't care if you catch the lie.

Reminds me so much of 1984... back when the book was written, most of what went on was considered so absurd no one could possibly have tolerated it to let it get that far, but now look here at how governments can get away with it and even manage to make it grow.

Re:Well of course (1)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091752)

In theory the United Nations could try to push an agenda of basic human rights and freedoms to all nations.

But that might require them to grow a conscience and/or a pair of balls.

Re:Build trust? (1)

Un pobre guey (593801) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091316)

Fear, trust, whatever. Same difference.

Re:Build trust? (1)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091406)

But it will force people to trust the government with all of their personal e-mails! How is that not building trust?

(Yes, obviously there is something wrong with this picture.)

Re:Build trust? (5, Insightful)

_Sprocket_ (42527) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091612)

Those of us in the US will understand the language. Iran has a central, government email system to build trust. We have the PATRIOT Act to protect freedom.

Re:Build trust? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31091630)

They're sounding and acting more and more like the Nazi party in Germany during the mid-1930's. People, expect a similar disastrous result if you don;t stop them now!

Re:Build trust? (1)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091656)

How does that old adage go?

You can't build an omelette without crushing a few eggs...

Or something like that.

Re:Build trust? (2, Interesting)

SimonInOz (579741) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091674)

>> Forcing users to use a government monitored service doesn't sound like something that would build trust. It sounds like a move to crush dissent.

Hmm - you do know why the Royal Mail was introduced, don't you? (The Royal Mail traces its history back to 1516, when Henry VIII established a "Master of the Posts", a post which eventually evolved into the office of the Postmaster General. The Royal Mail service was first made available to the public by Charles I on 31 July, 1635, with postage being paid by the recipient, and the General Post Office (GPO) was officially established by Charles II in 1660. [Thank you Wikipedia])
Yup - but why? Well, the Royal Mail was granted a monopoly on mail delivery (which it held until 2006 - 350 years, not bad) ... and so the King could open everybody's mail with impunity.

Iran's approach sounds pretty much the same to me. Same methodology, same reasons.

Ah, ain't history wonderful?

In other news... (2, Interesting)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091204)

A Nazi official said that the new "Final Solution" plan is meant to boost the railroad industry and help build positive relations between Jews and the Gestapo.

The "punch" we've been waiting for. (1)

RogueWarrior65 (678876) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091214)

Must be the "punch" they promised. Oooo...I quiver with FEAR!!! Good one, morons.

Re:The "punch" we've been waiting for. (1)

Captain Splendid (673276) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091640)

Beat me to it. I sure hope this isn't it, otherwise somebody clue in the Iranians on the meaning of 'hype'.

Only gmail? (1)

AFormalEvent (966445) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091224)

They want to promote local development by suspending one of many web based email providers? We need more information.

Maybe the problem is not mail (4, Interesting)

gmuslera (3436) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091228)

is Buzz. Else they should be blocking every other web mail provider (hotmail, yahoo, etc)

Re:Maybe the problem is not mail (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31091362)

They dont need to block hotmail and yahho because those two mail service freely disclose the information about iranian citizen.

Re:Maybe the problem is not mail (4, Interesting)

CannonballHead (842625) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091364)

Offhand, I don't know what sort of "deals" the other providers have made with Iran... e.g., maybe Yahoo already allows Iran's government access to e-mail or something like that? Perhaps Google didn't?

Or perhaps gmail is the only significant webmail provider over there and the others have

HTTPS (5, Insightful)

ink (4325) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091520)

It's because Google recently moved gmail to HTTPS. It was an option before, but now its mandatory. Someone's email snooper device stopped working in Iran's ministry of snooping^H^H^H^H^H^H truth, and they threw a fit. Then their prophet-dude probably received a revelation that the country needs it's own "Islamic" email system to be rid of the heathens... etc., etc.

Re:HTTPS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31091616)

Crap, wrong mod. I thought your post was awesome and hit the nail on the head.

Please don't hit me...

Re:Maybe the problem is not mail (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31091380)

It seems just as likely that the problem with gmail is the now-default encryption.

Re:Maybe the problem is not mail (1)

todorb (169225) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091716)

i bet that's the case.

Re:Maybe the problem is not mail (2, Funny)

_Sprocket_ (42527) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091500)

is Buzz. Else they should be blocking every other web mail provider (hotmail, yahoo, etc)

Like everything else, they are fundamentalist emailers.

It seems clear what Iran is doing (1)

TechForensics (944258) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091232)

How can this possibly be anything but an infrastructure for massive spying on its own citizens?

Re:It seems clear what Iran is doing (1)

fructose (948996) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091370)

I think almost anyone with a lick of sense would realize that. Iran must have seen the problems with hacking into gmail from the recent problems with China and thought "Let's just elminiate the middle man and have a native e-mail service that we can dictate that back doors be included for 'security.'" Of course, 'security' is for the security of the ruling parties, just like every other opressive regime.

Of course, the only people that this will truly affect are those that don't have much to lose because they don't have anything to hide. Everyone else is probably already smart enough to use a proxy and can get through any block that the government is trying to set up. In the end, it will jsut foster more resentment from the common folk and bolster support those seeking to overthrow their opressors.

Re:It seems clear what Iran is doing (1)

Alinabi (464689) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091488)

How can this possibly be anything but an infrastructure for massive spying on its own citizens?

Why not target the telecoms then, like the NSA does? Why one email provider?

fuck Iran (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31091236)

I propose we start a betting pool for which country bombs Iran back into the stone age -- oh, wait, they're already doing that to themselves!

I wonder if... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31091242)

... they realize that unless they use a whitelisting approach to the whole Internet it's extremely easy to circumvent these measures?

Re:I wonder if... (1)

Aeros (668253) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091320)

no way..that's impossible!

It's an extreme reaction, but.... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31091254)

They must hate Buzz as much as I do.

Run own server? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31091262)

can you run your own email server in Iran without getting shot at?

Re:Run own server? (4, Funny)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091550)

can you run your own email server in Iran without getting shot at?

Do not worry, Infidel! We have tracked your IP address! The Imperial Guard is on their way, as I write this! Death to you, and may Allah have mercy on your soul!

Thanks,
The Iranian Minister of Information

WTF? (1)

KnownIssues (1612961) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091264)

That's the kind of thing you read and there's almost no response. There just has to be something missing here. "Suspend"? Do you mean blocked Gmail? Why Google's email and not Yahoo's, Microsoft's, or AOL's? Censoring the Internet builds trust between people and the government (I know, they don't really believe that)? Why not boost local development of Internet technology by finding projects that weren't already solved 15 years ago?

Re:WTF? (4, Insightful)

canajin56 (660655) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091312)

Why not boost local development of Internet technology by finding projects that weren't already solved 15 years ago?

Because if you force everybody to use iranmail instead of gmail, you can read everything they email?

Re:WTF? (1)

nicknamenotavailable (1730990) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091436)

Why Google's email and not Yahoo's, Microsoft's, or AOL's?

Because Google doesn't play nice with dictatorships and oppressive regimes.

Re:WTF? (1)

calmofthestorm (1344385) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091544)

Aside from the recent thing in China, can you source that? I was under the impression Google followed spying and censorship laws both in the US and abroad.

Re:WTF? (1)

nicknamenotavailable (1730990) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091738)

Aside from the recent thing in China, can you source that? I was under the impression Google followed spying and censorship laws both in the US and abroad.

I'm primarily referring to that. Are there other places where these issues were raised? Perhaps I just didn't hear about them.
Either way, Google is still nicer than the other players. But I'm still using my own mailserver.

Anonymous Coward (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31091272)

If you think that your own government doesn't have the same backdoor access to your email communications or web browsing history (I'm talking to you, US citizens), that Iran will obviously build into their national system then you're fooling yourselves.

They don't even need warrants from judges to get it anymore. National security letters or even post-it notes seem to suffice nowadays

Web 2.0 (3, Informative)

ShaunC (203807) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091278)

They've even got one of those catchy web-2.0-style names for their new site, mail.ir [mail.ir] .

Re:Web 2.0 (2, Insightful)

tehcmn (1192821) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091368)

I like how the Iranian gov't is running a national e-mail service but can't stump up for an SSL certificate. mail.ir = localhost.localdomain, apparently.

Re:Web 2.0 (2, Informative)

Bert64 (520050) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091642)

The cert also expired in 2008...

Re:Web 2.0 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31091494)

This Connection is Untrusted

You have asked Namoroka to connect securely to mail.iran.ir, but we can't confirm that your connection is secure.

Normally, when you try to connect securely, sites will present trusted identification to prove that you are going to the right place. However, this site's identity can't be verified.

What Should I Do?

If you usually connect to this site without problems, this error could mean that someone is trying to impersonate the site, and you shouldn't continue.


DO NOT TRUST!

Don't bother R'ing TFA (4, Informative)

Silentknyght (1042778) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091284)

So scant, it's a travesty to call this a "news article." Here it is, in entirety:

Iran's telecommunications agency announced that it would be suspending Google's email services permanently, saying it would roll out its own national email service. Google didn't have an immediate comment about the announcement. An Iranian official said the measure was meant to boost local development of Internet technology and to build trust between people and the government, according to the Wall Street Journal. The measure comes on the heels of celebrations to mark the 31st anniversary of the Islamic Republic.

For once, everything you need to know is safely found in the Slashdot summary.

Re:Don't bother R'ing TFA (1)

kaputtfurleben (818568) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091696)

I don't believe brevity can necessarily make something non-newsworthy.

It's good... (3, Funny)

djKing (1970) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091286)

I'm glad the Iranian Government will be able to trust their people with this exciting new tech.

Regime (1)

Un pobre guey (593801) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091294)

A dictatorship is a dictatorship is a dictatorship. The ideologies, pretentions, and trappings may vary wildly, but inside they are all alike.

Iran threatens with a "punch" for Feb. 11th (2, Interesting)

phoenix321 (734987) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091314)

"The Iranian nation, with its unity and God's grace, will punch the arrogance (of Western powers) on the 22nd of Bahman (Feb 11) in a way that will leave them stunned," Khamenei declared Monday.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8508813.stm [bbc.co.uk]

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=124681 [wnd.com]

Empty threat or glass parking lot in Tel Aviv? What are they up to?

Re:Iran threatens with a "punch" for Feb. 11th (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31091378)

Maybe the new email service is the punch?

Re:Iran threatens with a "punch" for Feb. 11th (1)

dintech (998802) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091430)

Of course an empty threat. You would think they would have learned from what happened to their neighbouring country that even empty threats lead to severe trouble.

Re:Iran threatens with a "punch" for Feb. 11th (1)

malakai (136531) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091432)

The people of Iran better hope this "punch" is not in anyway directed at Israel.

Israel is the sober angry Krav Maga expert being held back by his friends at the end of the bar which houses a drunk Iran and his orange tanned Persian 'guido' friends.

I think we're about to have A Situation Here....on the Persian Shore.

Re:Iran threatens with a "punch" for Feb. 11th (1)

stonewallred (1465497) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091754)

Glass parking lot in Tel Aviv will result in big glowing craters and massive firestorms everywhere in the ME that has pedoworshiping camel riders living there. Bet against Israeli nuking all of the camel herders back into the 9th century and you'll lose.

I've seen the Beta! (5, Funny)

e2d2 (115622) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091332)

I've seen the Beta. It's actually quite like Google wave where you can edit another's words in real time. And by you I mean government agents.

Don't you mean suspends access to? (1)

nicknamenotavailable (1730990) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091340)

Iran Suspends Google's Email Service

In Iran I presume

I thought that Iran was on the US trade embargo list.

Regime Change Now (1)

Apple Acolyte (517892) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091342)

This radical regime has no compunction about killing its own citizens, and it has continuously described its intention to destroy another sovereign country. Regime change needs to happen now, or else the world will sleep through a future preventable calamity yet again.

Re:Regime Change Now (1)

Spy Handler (822350) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091394)

"Regime change needs to happen now"

W, is that you?

Re:Regime Change Now (2, Insightful)

russotto (537200) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091408)

This radical regime has no compunction about killing its own citizens, and it has continuously described its intention to destroy another sovereign country. Regime change needs to happen now, or else the world will sleep through a future preventable calamity yet again.

Look, Bush and Cheney are no longer in office, will you stop with the complaints?

Wait, you weren't talking about the United States? Isn't this Slashdot?

Building Trust through Surveillance (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31091354)

I know that my own trust in the US government is hugely enhanced by NSA's monitoring of my communications.

Build trust? I guess that makes sense. (3, Interesting)

hey! (33014) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091358)

Once the government is managing all your communications, they'll finally be able to trust you.

Possible national mottos for current regime (1)

presidenteloco (659168) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091384)

Iran Away!

Iran T

Iran dom

How to help Iran and stop their dictator (0, Flamebait)

handfullofsausage (1589435) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091412)

We need to spray Iran with bacon grease. Take a fleet of c130's load em up with tankers filled with bacon grease and spray the entire area liberally. A couple of days should do it.

What arse faces (1)

hesaigo999ca (786966) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091450)

>From the short article linked: "An Iranian official said the measure was meant
>to boost local development of Internet technology and to build trust between
>people and the government, according to the Wall Street Journal."
I have to say, I know some Iranians that live over there, and it is all about controlling the media and the information.
If they leave gmail to do this, they lose control of the info, and they do not want to lose control.
So let's tell people you are no longer allowed to use gmail for we are far too controlling, instead use our homemade brew of gmail, and we will be able to read all your emails and that of your friends...

Seriously, I would hate to live over there for this simple reason, let alone all the war and crime presently over there.

Trust? (1)

jcl945 (1721318) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091454)

How can removing any choice and taking full control over a system create trust. I'm not a huge fan of all the information that Google has, but I trust them a hell of a lot more than I would the Iranian government. Control trust.

UAE (0, Flamebait)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091464)

Is it within the UAE's interests to try and support new leadership in Iran to try and control a future Irani government and keep it an Arab-controlled Islamic state, or should they wait for the US/UN to eventually send in troops over the nuke issue? Who do they want to organize the formation of the next Irani government?

At this point, isn't an inevitability?

Re:UAE (4, Informative)

chill (34294) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091608)

Iran isn't an Arab or Arab-controlled State. They're Aryans or Persians, not Arabs. Calling a Persian an Arab is liable to get you a good long rant -- or punched, depending on the circumstance.

Re:UAE (1)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091726)

I did not realize that Persians were not considered Arabs. I guess you learn something every day.

Re:UAE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31091762)

Iran is controlled by arab interests.

It's a rather large part of the whole uprising thing going on. Much of the elite guard going around doing much of the beating/torturing/killing are shipped in from lebanon.

Normal (0, Offtopic)

BCW2 (168187) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091472)

Totalitarian governments are afraid of anything they can't control.
Gee, compares nicely with Obama's attitude towards Fox and the Internet doesn't it?

Would? (1)

mosb1000 (710161) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091516)

Iran's telecommunications agency announced that it would be suspending Google's email services permanently, saying it would roll out its own national email service.

I think it may be a better to roll out the replacement before blocking Google.

Allah gave us free will... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31091524)

Allah gave us free will ... but Allah's most fervent supports spend their entire lives trying to take it away...
If I was most powerful and most merciful i'd set the record strait on this one.

One down, 746 more to filter. (1)

geekmux (1040042) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091558)

Of course, I'm certain there are no other webmail-based services available now or ever in the future for Iranians to use...right? Right?

Seriously, unless they plan on creating yet another seive like the "Great" firewall of China, how the hell do they expect to "control" an entity like Internet-based email services?

Wow, if you were ever caught using hushmail over there...I can only imagine the punishment.

Motto (1)

R3coiler (1740032) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091596)

Google's motto: Don't be evil.
Iran's motto: If it isn't evil, ban it.

the real reason (1)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091604)

Iran just doesn't want the Chinese to be reading Iranian dissident mail before they do.

I think it's a good idea (1)

maas15 (1357089) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091626)

Ignoring for a moment that this will give the Iranian government a high level of control over standard email communications, (ignoring, IGNORING), I think this is actually a very good idea. Think of it as a technological tariff on free internet services, with the intent to create jobs and a demand for technologically adept people. It's almost benevolent (if it wasn't for the unfettered access to other's communications part).

Google vs. the goverment (1)

triflemenot (1737276) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091646)

Google vs. the goverment. What's the difference? Precious little. Trusting your privacy to Google is like mailing your private files to the FBI. American or Iranian, it's all goverment. Wake up and guard your privacy. What little you have left.

This means WAR!!! (1)

RedTeflon (1695836) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091662)

We will let you have those WMD's but this is the last straw. You better let Google mine your data or else we will release the hounds. You have been warned.

What will they call it? (1)

tool462 (677306) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091692)

Will they call it iMail?
Will Apple's brand image be tarnished as a result?
Will Apple try to sue Iran over trademark infringement?
Or will they begrudgingly accept the inevitable Jobs/Ahmadinejad comparisons as having a tiny hint of truth?

I kid, I kid. I know you how you guys love to quash dissent ;)

Googlemail is soon to be social media (1)

LullySing (164221) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091706)

My best bet to the "closure" of gmail now is because Google are working on social media aspects to add to gmail.

You have to remember that social media sites like facebook have been causing a lot of problems for the iran govt. since the last "failed uprising" was all organised in a quick, chaotic way using social media. So by taking this decision now instead of later, they can cover up the closing of gmail into a "national project" before gmail becomes a problem like facebook,email and social media sites in general.

To these guys, it's all about control. Control of the population thru control of the media.

Force dependence, remind of control (1)

syousef (465911) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091710)

They're not idiots. This is no different to poking someone's eyes out so they're forced to rely on you to be their eyes, and so they can't go anywhere or do anything without you. They're also sending a message that they are in power and can do whatever they like.

How many of you use an Iranian email service? (1)

aaandre (526056) | more than 4 years ago | (#31091718)

I think the issue is with trusting a service that is open to the subpoena laws and intelligence agencies of another country, period.

Google will supply your full email history if order3ed by a court. And, under the "patriot" act, most likely even if not.

Would you trust an email service provided by a country with a government you don't trust? China? North Korea? Iran?

Of course, having the government take that decision away from you is another matter... but still logical.

Iran is almost at war with the U.S. Nothing surprising here.

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