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OpenOffice 3.2 Released

timothy posted more than 4 years ago | from the compatability-can-opener dept.

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harmonise writes "Version 3.2 of the OpenOffice.org office suite is now available. This marks the tenth anniversary year of the office suite, with over three hundred million downloads recorded in total. The new features include faster start up times; improved compatibility with open standard (ODF) and proprietary file formats; improvements to all components, particularly the Calc spreadsheet, with over a dozen new or enhanced features; and the Chart module (usable throughout OpenOffice.org) has had a usability makeover as well as offering new chart types."

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Nothing That New or Innovative... (2, Informative)

catd77 (1743104) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103388)

Right on the heels of MS 2010 beta. Doesn't appear to be much new things, it's just faster. Still. Openoffice is the best office suite out there in my opinion.

Re:Nothing That New or Innovative... (5, Insightful)

doti (966971) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103566)

A minor (3.x) release is not meant to be innovative. That's for a major release (4.0).

Re:Nothing That New or Innovative... (1)

Trogre (513942) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104742)

I guess then that Windows NT 5.1 wasn't much more innovative than NT 5.0.

Re:Nothing That New or Innovative... (2, Insightful)

doti (966971) | more than 4 years ago | (#31105054)

"not meant to be" != "never"

Re:Nothing That New or Innovative... (5, Insightful)

hey! (33014) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103640)

Once I bought my father in law a really, really nice hammer. There wasn't made of titanium or anything like that; it didn't have any kind of electronic controls or clever mechanical gizmos to help you swing it straight. It wasn't innovative. It was just a really, really well made hammer.

He was pleased with it, even though the hammer he already owned was in approximate terms very similar to the one I gave him. In precise terms it wasn't anywhere near as nice.

Re:Nothing That New or Innovative... (1)

catd77 (1743104) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104462)

I know that, I just expected a little bit more, maybe a new icon or something. I guess I hold Sun Microsystems to a higher standard since I use a lot of their software.

Just Faster??? I wish I was just Richer!!! (5, Insightful)

viraltus (1102365) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103660)

Word processors cannot be improving in terms of features forever and, anyway, people only use a small percentage of those, so I think "just" faster is "just" right.

Re:Just Faster??? I wish I was just Richer!!! (4, Insightful)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104288)

I don't think I've used any new features for a word processor since WordPerfect 5.1. That had just about everything I needed. For 99.9999% of the population, OpenOffice is more than enough. I think that MS will have a hard time maintaining market share in the next 30 years on the desktop market. Software is just becoming too much of a commodity. Easily replaced by free alternatives. Obviously the change isn't going to happen overnight, but over the long term, there's no way that MS can keep on charging for upgrades to software when software with the same features can be had for free.

Re:Just Faster??? I wish I was just Richer!!! (1)

ClosedSource (238333) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104490)

Does it still label drawings with "Slide n" as if a drawing and a presentation were the same thing?

Re:Nothing That New or Innovative... (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31103836)

"Just faster"? It isn't just faster. It's so much faster that it's like a whole new program. Great job, guys. I wish we'd see this more often: The same program, just a lot better.

Re:Nothing That New or Innovative... (5, Informative)

tyrione (134248) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104796)

Right on the heels of MS 2010 beta. Doesn't appear to be much new things, it's just faster. Still. Openoffice is the best office suite out there in my opinion.

Native OpenType Postcript fonts alone makes it finally worth exploring Writer.

improved compatibility with open standard (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31103396)

"improved compatibility with open standard (ODF, OOXML)"

Fixed.

Re:improved compatibility with open standard (4, Insightful)

dwiget001 (1073738) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103432)

OOXML, despite having "Open" in it's name and despite the rigged voting process in the ISO is *hardly* a standard for anything.

Even Microsoft, whose baby it is, doesn't support it.

Re:improved compatibility with open standard (2, Interesting)

denis-The-menace (471988) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103848)

So the question is: Does OpenOffice support
  -the bought and approved ISO standard OOXML
Or
  -The OOXML that MS' own Office programs create?

My guess is the latter since nothing supports the first.

Re:improved compatibility with open standard (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31103900)

There's no point in mentioning ODF if you aren't going to mention the other open standards in the parenthesis.

Re:improved compatibility with open standard (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31103960)

There is no other open standard in the same category as ODF. Mentioning it by name still helps those who only know the proprietary DOC format.

Re:improved compatibility with open standard (1)

SnarfQuest (469614) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104114)

Wouldn't it be funny if OpenOffice supported OOXML, and MicroSoft had to write their code to be compatible with the OO version.

Re:improved compatibility with open standard (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31104278)

It would be even funnier if OpenOffice.org supported OOXML and Microsoft wrote their own OOXML that has all these extensions and crap that makes it not backwards compatible with the OpenOffice.org version.

-- gid

External references (5, Interesting)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103430)

First off, congrats on getting the release out the door. I do appreciate the project.

That being said, in 3.0, supposedly there was support in Calc to external references (to values in other documents). In 3.1, it was supposedly fixed. It still didn't work.

I'm curious to see if it finally works in 3.2. And for those who don't know, you should check out Novell's fork/non-standard builds over at go-oo.org. Many Linux distros use these builds automatically, but if you're on Windows, that is the version I'd grab. They have several nice improvements over the upstream version.

FIXED:External references (4, Informative)

coats (1068) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104930)

External refs worked for me in Mandriva's 3.0.1.

Did not work for me in any of the 3.1.1's (Mandriva or direct download, 32- or 64-bit). Had to revert to Mandriva's 3.0.1.

Just checked, and works for me in 32-bit direct download of 3.2.0.

Clippy (5, Funny)

MrEricSir (398214) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103442)

I'm sorry, but I refuse to use any office suite that doesn't have animated characters telling me what to do.

Re:Clippy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31103540)

I still have nightmares about that little bastard.

Re:Clippy (2, Funny)

msclrhd (1211086) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103988)

It appears that you are having a nightmare. In this nightmare, would you like to...

1. be stabbed to death by a serial killer.
2. drown after seeing pennywise the clown (because we all float down here).
3. be forced to sit through a never ending video stream of lolcats.
4. live in a Being John Clippy world where everyone is clippy (clippy, clippy, clippy clippy, clippy).

Re:Clippy (2, Funny)

Jeng (926980) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103758)

For some reason the first thought that went though my head was

"What meme would work best as an animated character?"

Re:Clippy (2, Funny)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103798)

Does CowboyNeal have an avatar?

Re:Clippy (4, Funny)

Red Flayer (890720) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104060)

Does CowboyNeal have an avatar?

Yes, he does. Unfortunately, you need a six-panel display to render the avatar due to size.

Furthermore, the advice you're likely to get from the CowboyNeal office assistant may be somewhat suspect.

It looks like you're trying to set a tabstop. Would you like some help with that?
Options:
Link to BBW pron
Link to mature porn
Link to hirsute porn
Link to horseporn
No thanks, I'm good.

That's not the kind of office assistant most of us could use.

Re:Clippy (3, Funny)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104470)

In other words, about as relevant as Clippy, but far more interesting.

Re:Clippy (2, Funny)

DrSkwid (118965) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104496)

Looks perfect to me, though the last entry really should be

CowboyNeal Porn

Re:Clippy (4, Funny)

Duositex (620105) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104034)

An LOLcat?

"I seez u r trying to makes lettrz. WordCat help u."

Re:Clippy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31104120)

Obviously, an animated grubby mechanic that would break down all his helpful advice into car analogies.

Re:Clippy (2, Funny)

sconeu (64226) | more than 4 years ago | (#31105020)

Natalie Portman.

It looks like your composing a Slashdot post. Would you like some assistance?

  1. I'd like to see Natalie Portman, naked and petrified
  2. I'd like to pour hot grits down my pants
  3. In Soviet Russia...
  4. I, for one, welcome our new meme-assisting overlords
  5. CowboyNeal is my pilot
  6. I'd like to get in the First Post!
  7. No thank you. You must be new here.

Confession time (5, Interesting)

Bill, Shooter of Bul (629286) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103892)

Although I hated Clippy with a great passion, I liked the professor office helper. If Microsoft had chosen the professor, I don't think they would have gotten the vitriol they did. Clippy was a smug jackass. Not a helpful, humble character like the professor. He looked like Einstein, so he seemed to be smart, but he was also old which made him seem like a kind grandparent. I'm slightly ashamed to admit that he did teach me some things about word, I didn't already know.

Re:Confession time (4, Insightful)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104432)

Nobody is as bad as the Windows XP Search dog. Why would I want a dog helping me find files. This whole idea of little characters popping up to help me is kind of demeaning, but having a dog help me is just terrible. I think they should really try to have a more professional image. There should be no cartoon characters popping up, especially on the XP Professional version. If it was Windows XP Kids edition I could understand, but I think it just makes the product look like a joke.

You're Missing the Point About Dogs (4, Funny)

dreamchaser (49529) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104478)

The Search Dog is a retriever!

Re:Confession time (3, Funny)

smisle (1640863) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104660)

I had a funny moment yesterday - while teaching an 86 year old lady how to use a computer, she accidentally clicked on the search icon in windows explorer. The little search-pup appeared, and she looked at it quizzically ... When I showed her how to close the search panel, she said:

"oh, thank you. Good riddance."

Microsoft (and all the other OS companies) really need to determine their target demographic. It seems like everyone is shifting toward designing for the computer illiterate - removing "confusing" features, and replacing all the text with pictures.

I've been teaching Word processing to a whole slew of new computer users - and there is a certain sector who always push the new file icon rather than the file menu, when I tell them to click the file menu. These are the people who inspired the "office bubble" rather than a real menu.

Re:Confession time (2, Funny)

gbjbaanb (229885) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104698)

I'm slightly ashamed to admit that he did teach me some things about word, I didn't already know.

Don't be ashamed - there's so much bloat in Office that there's TONS of stuff you still don't know is in there.

Re:Clippy (1)

xavierpayne (697081) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104006)

I see you are writting a "Funny". Might I suggest: 1) An "in soviet russia..." comment 2) A covert link to goatse 3) Asking if it runs linux ?

Re:Clippy (1)

HikingStick (878216) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104126)

Perhaps OO could introduce its own animated characters-- starting with an animated wire cutter!

Re:Clippy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31104508)

...named "Snippy", of course.

Re:Clippy (1)

gad_zuki! (70830) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104296)

>I'm sorry, but I refuse to use any office suite that doesn't have animated characters telling me what to do.

Oh, I'd love to see what the OSS equivalant of Clippy would be. Perhaps, an otaku neckbeard sitting in front a PC playing WoW, surrounded by empty boxes of fast food and alternately yelling "RTFM" or "Read the manpage already!"

Hooray! (1)

Ngarrang (1023425) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103464)

OO Fan Boy here. I am happy to see the success that OO is having, the continued development...and most importantly...starting up to a blank document in less time than it takes me to walk to the fridge for another can of Pepsi. Thank you OO development team!

Seriously, though, I like to use OO and it is the only my wife has used at home for documents, but making it start up faster should have been a number 1 priority all along.

Re:Hooray! (1)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103554)

No, making it save and open and render documents consistently should be priority #1. I run OOo on Linux and everytime I open a document, the formatting becomes all screwed up. Carriage returns are added. Subscripts become detached and drop waaay below down to another line. I'm sure many others have similar problems.

"Starting up faster" often isn't really faster anyway, it's just starting the UI faster and hoping that the user dosen't notice that they still can't do anything.

Re:Hooray! (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31103606)

Have you filed bug reports regarding these problems, including example documents when possible?

Re:Hooray! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31104302)

Of course he hasn't. This is /. , hes just a typical complainer who doesn't want to do anything to help fix the problem. He just wants to bitch and moan about it.

Re:Hooray! (0, Troll)

TheKidWho (705796) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104364)

Why waste your time trying to help fix the problem when you can use something that already works?

Re:Hooray! (1)

ClosedSource (238333) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104558)

Cause it's not a bug unless the user does some work to help fix it. People keep saying that most F/OSS developers are paid now. If that's true isn't it their problem, not the user's.

Re:Hooray! (4, Insightful)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#31105072)

Nonsense. Even with proprietary software developers can only fix bugs that they know about. If you don't report a bug, then you have no business complaining that it isn't fixed. I've fixed bugs in code that have been there for years, but not fixed because they don't impact the developers' use of the system. When someone encounters them and provides a test case, I can fix them. When I never see them, I can't. Even if the developers are paid, they're not omniscient.

Re:Hooray! (3, Informative)

Tapewolf (1639955) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104334)

Are you using the Ubuntu bundled version of 3.1, by any chance? Canonical have managed to destroy it somehow. What you're describing is a known issue in the Ubuntu version.

It did two disagreeable things to me - firstly, attempting to stretch or move an image would make it distort the image so you couldn't see what it was doing, and secondly, it was unable to save documents correctly.
I was using it to make a 4-page document for a CD booklet with the lyrics etc in a bunch of frames. When the document was reloaded, it had reduced to 3 pages and splattered the frames everywhere, seemingly at random.

The primary solution to these problems at the moment seems to be uninstalling the broken Canonical version and installing the official OOo binaries instead.

Re:Hooray! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31104690)

I ran into this problem, too.

This is my first Ubuntu installation, and I'm less than impressed. I mean, I used to think that Fedora was shitty, but Ubuntu has taken it to a new level. Their OpenOffice.org build is fucked. Their Firefox build is fucked. Their choice to use GNOME is fucked.

I'm just about ready to go back to OpenSUSE. At least Novell has some idea about putting together a reliable, high-quality Linux distribution.

Re:Hooray! (4, Informative)

DrSkwid (118965) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104536)

We've been using OO for about 5 years, I've never had a single person in our office ever have a problem with anything I could call a bug.

Self Update Broken (1)

Chris Lawrence (1733598) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103476)

Looks like the self update function is still broken, at least on the Mac version. It's telling me 3.1 is up to date.

Re:Self Update Broken (2, Interesting)

baka_toroi (1194359) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103590)

Maybe they only pushed the update to the main website, not the self-update servers.

Re:Self Update Broken (1)

Chris Lawrence (1733598) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103668)

Perhaps, but the self update has never worked once on the Mac since the first version came up. Hopefully this is fixed in 3.2 so when 3.3 comes around people won't need to download a massive file.

Re:Self Update Broken (1)

CmdrPorno (115048) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103610)

Same here, although it could be like Firefox, which only automatically updates for minor releases. Also, auto-update functions often lag behind the actual release of the software.

Re:Self Update Broken (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31103882)

Firefox does major release updates as well. They just wait a few weeks after the main release so that activity on the mirror network slows down.

Re:Self Update Broken (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103978)

[Firefox waits] a few weeks after the main release so that activity on the mirror network slows down.

That and two other reasons: so the most embarrassing regressions get shaken out, and so that update system maintainers can assess the impact of increased system requirements. For example, Firefox 3.0 dropped support for Windows 9x, and Firefox versions continue to drop support for older Mac OS X versions; it appears Fx 3.6 is the last version to support 10.4 (Tiger) [slashdot.org] .

Re:Self Update Broken (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31104844)

If you're using Mac, you should try Neooffice [neooffice.org] . They just (on the 1st) released a new version based on 3.1. Though it's a version behind, the improved mac integration makes it more than worthwhile.

Re:Self Update Broken (1)

HeronBlademaster (1079477) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104968)

When I tried a moment ago (in Windows) it just said "Checking for updates failed." I wonder if the root cause is the same?

Re:Self Update Broken (1)

Chris Lawrence (1733598) | more than 4 years ago | (#31105040)

I didn't get a failure, although I often used to in previous versions. It just said I was already up to date. Just tried again and I did get your error, that's probably just from the traffic.

will it still hijack my mac (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31103482)

so that any powerpoint email attachments etc will be opened in open office instead of microsoft office. This feature cannot be turned off. Uninstalled because of it.

Re:will it still hijack my mac (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31103602)

You should be able to change that setting in OS X, not Open Office.

Re:will it still hijack my mac (4, Informative)

xZgf6xHx2uhoAj9D (1160707) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103678)

Yup, it's changed in Finder. Find a document, either right-click or go to the File menu, select Get Info, change the application in "Open with" and then select "Change All".

Re:will it still hijack my mac (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31104884)

Do you honestly think OpenOffice decides which application the OS uses to open a specific file?

But... (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103550)

Does it still count an open quotation mark as a whole word? That really bugged me about v3.1

ok? (0, Redundant)

isama (1537121) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103608)

"The new features include faster start up times; " Is that a special feature? it should be normal. not that I hate OO, but it has a long way to go before being an app I truely love. It's the best office suite out there(to me.) but it still isn't great.

Re:ok? (5, Interesting)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103912)

OO's startup times in Windows XP used to bug the crap out of me. Doubleclick on a spreadsheet, and it might be a minute or so, sometimes more, before you were off to the races. This was on a decent Athlon64 2 GHz with 1GB RAM, not exactly a slouch of a machine.

Then I tried it on my old Athlon 1.3Ghz with 384MB RAM in Linux Mint, and it started in about 10 seconds.

On my new beast (Athlon II 3.0GHz, 4GB RAM, Linux Mint) OpenOffice starts in just a few seconds.

I was utterly astonished at the speed difference of OO between Windows and Linux, and it makes perfect sense to me why Windows users don't like it as much - it's a dog. I hope they've improved its Windows performance in 3.2, for the sake of those using it on Windows.

Re:ok? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31104370)

That's interesting. I've used OpenOffice on Windows and didn't notice it being any slower than Office 2003 and, in my experience, it starts faster than Office 07. 2GHz CPU, 1GB of RAM.

Re:ok? (1)

isama (1537121) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104518)

I use OO on a 1.6ghz atom with 1.5gb of RAM on ubuntu, and it just feels too slow for me. I just tested opening a 80MB document (it has lots of images.) and it takes 21 seconds. 10 on starting OO and 11 on opening the document itself. and saving this document takes 1.5 minutes so i think the preformance of OO is kinda shitty don't you think?

Re:ok? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31104832)

Linux distros use Go-Oo instead of Oo, this could account for much of the difference (the use of shared libs for much of the rest)

"over three hundred million downloads" (3, Informative)

sznupi (719324) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103630)

Not a very useful metric, considering how on the most popular desktop OS OpenOffice requires downloading of installation package to upgrade. Yes, OSes with package management and OOo included, together with using the same download for installations and/or upgrades on several machines, swing the usage upwards; but I doubt it's anywhere enough to compensate.

Mind Boggling That The UI Widgets Suck So Much (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31103654)

http://www.softpedia.com/screenshots/OpenOfficeorg-for-Windows_2.png

http://img.labnol.org/di/visio-2010.png

It certainly isn't your standard open source UI nightmare but with all the effort that has put into this project over the years how is possible no one in charge of the project has been capable of spending the tiny amount of cash relative to paying engineers and the rest of the project's overhead it takes to pay for some professional UI artists to spend the short amount of time it would take to update the clunkly and half-assed widget/UI element source art so this actually fantastic piece of software isn't passed over because it looks amateurish compared to Microsoft Office?

Re:Mind Boggling That The UI Widgets Suck So Much (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31103898)

Are you 10 years old?

Why is your mom such a whore? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31104270)

Well?

Re:Mind Boggling That The UI Widgets Suck So Much (2, Insightful)

sarhjinian (94086) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104300)

IBM's Lotus Symphony is based on the same code and has had that effort put into the UI. It's based on much older code, though, and suffers for it.

I would agree that OOo does tend to look a bit dated and lacking in the polish you see in MSO2003.

NO shirt, NO shoes, NO tabs: no service! (1)

adbge (1693228) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103740)

The lack of a tabbed interface in OOWord renders it nigh unusable, IMO. OO needs to stop trying to play catch-up to MS Office and start focusing on meaningful innovation and usability.

Re:NO shirt, NO shoes, NO tabs: no service! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31103842)

Another downside of its mutant GUI toolkit is that it doesn't work with gnome-globalmenu and its performance sucks. They need to rewrite the entire gui in SOME kind of semi-native platform toolkit.

Heck, even wxWidgets. Audacity works great with gnome global menu. Until they do that, I use gedit for most stuff, Abiword and Gnumeric whenever I can, and OpenOffice only when I absolutely have to.

Unable to install (1)

jridley (9305) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103794)

My machine has 3.0.0 installed, but I deleted the installation files and have no copy anywhere.

I can't uninstall 3.0.0 without the installation files, and there doesn't appear to be anywhere to download them.

The new version won't install until I uninstall the old version.

Looks like I'll be using 3.0.0 forever.

Re:Unable to install (1)

jtownatpunk.net (245670) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104080)

I just installed 3.2 over 3.0.0 on my windows machine with no problem at all (except it left an empty 3.0 folder in my programs menu). I don't know what you could be doing wrong but...

Re:Unable to install (2, Interesting)

jridley (9305) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104298)

Did you still have the installation files on your hard drive that the 3.0.0 install dropped on your desktop? I removed mine.
I actually went out and found a copy of 3.0.0 on a shareware site, and put the files there. 3.0.0 still refuses to uninstall. 3.2.0 says 3.0.0 has to be uninstalled first. The 3.0.0 installer refuses to uninstall 3.0.0 - it says 3.0.0 is not installed, even though I can go to the start menu and start up OO apps, and they are version 3.0.0.

I think there are some holes in their installation process. I usually don't have trouble either, but when I do, they're usually a huge pain in the butt to fix. That's a pretty typical statement for Windows, actually.

Re:Unable to install (3, Insightful)

Rockoon (1252108) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104630)

The fact that you have had this problem more than once tells me that you are a willy-nilly file deleter, and it is likely that you will have the same sort of problems with other operating systems if you continue to be a willy-nilly file deleter.

I dont know why it dropped files essential to uninstallation on your desktop, and its hard to believe that the installer was coded specifically to do that. Did you tell it to install directly to your desktop? If so, don't do that. Really.

Just say'n.

Re:Unable to install (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31104966)

The installation files are neither needed nor used in the uninstall process. I always delete them right after the installation and can uninstall OpenOffice just fine. (Why they put them on the desktop instead of the temp folder, I don't know.)

Some people keep their habit of using "maintenance" tools from back when a Windows installation died of cruft after at most 6 months. This is no longer necessary and "cleaning the registry" and "system folders" does more harm than good now. Not being able to uninstall programs cleanly is one of the symptoms of overzealous system "maintenance". If you still use Norton anything or something similar, that's where your problem is.

Re:Unable to install (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31104632)

My machine has 3.0.0 installed, but I deleted the installation files and have no copy anywhere.

I can't uninstall 3.0.0 without the installation files, and there doesn't appear to be anywhere to download them.

The new version won't install until I uninstall the old version.

Looks like I'll be using 3.0.0 forever.

Download it here [filehippo.com] . They have every release and release candidate going back to 1.1.5.

bigger tables anyone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31103826)

Still only 256 columns per sheet? I frequently need a lot more than that.

Re:bigger tables anyone? (4, Informative)

pushing-robot (1037830) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103932)

Still only 256 columns per sheet? I frequently need a lot more than that.

1024, actually, since version 3.0.

Re:bigger tables anyone? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31104542)

640 columns should be enough for anyone

Bibtxt (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31103844)

Bibtxt is the biggest item to get OpenOffice working.

If I can import and export Bibtxt files Bibliography files and use Templates for writing styles.

That is I can write in APA then tell OpenOffice to reformat for IEEE. Though it can be done with Tex this is the killer feature people would like in Academia. With enough people using it for this feature then many people would ask for it in their business.
 

Re:Bibtxt (2, Insightful)

denis-The-menace (471988) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104394)

Maybe you should create a feature request for it and get some of you friends in Academia to vote for it.

Hint: I did a search for Bibtxt in Issues and the whole OO site and found no mention of this file format.

bibtex (2, Informative)

maccallr (240314) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104812)

think he means bibtex (a LaTeX bibliography tool/format)

Re:Bibtxt (2, Informative)

steveg (55825) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104964)

Have you looked at Zotero [zotero.org] ? It may do what you want -- I think it does import and export Bibtex, but if what you want to do is manage citations and bibliographies, it may do what you need without any importing or exporting. You can insert citations into your doc and then change your mind about the formatting en masse. Ditto the bibliography.

This requires both the Zotero Firefox plugin and the Zotero OpenOffice plugin. Dunno if it is compatible with 3.2.

Great news, but... (1)

DogAlmity (664209) | more than 4 years ago | (#31103886)

Is Calc still slower than thick shit, unlike Excel or Gnumeric? It's faster than it was but still much slower.

Can you have more than 64k rows, like Excel or Gnumeric? No? Fail!

Sticking with Gnumeric.

Alternate keybinding support? (1)

freelunch (258011) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104010)

I like Open Office right up until the point where I have to edit documents using those keybindings. Unfortunately, the features don't include any mention of improved alternate keybinding support. Surely not everyone wants to adapt to Windows keybindings?

As an example, Firefox supports emacs editing keybindings via a simple Gnome option.

Having to create keybinding files from scratch is a chore. Worse, new OO releases often don't support past keybinding files. I don't think it would be a major effort to include alternate keybinding files, and make switching a bit easier? I'm sure quite a few of us would volunteer to make that happen.

Has RTF been fixed? (1)

VGPowerlord (621254) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104118)

"improved compatibility with open standard (ODF) and proprietary file formats"

So, is it finally able to save RTF files without losing random formatting information?

Actually, I don't care any more. I just sucked it up and bought a heavily discounted copy of Office 2007 and installed it on two of my Windows machines (Desktop and Laptop) instead of dealing with OO.o's document mangling.

Re:Has RTF been fixed? (1)

Limburgher (523006) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104662)

Odd. My experience has been totally different. I've not had it mangle a document in about 7 years.

Not exactly news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31104134)

I downloaded it a couple of days ago.

PHP support? (2, Interesting)

Alworx (885008) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104484)

Mmm... no... not this time... :-(

Am I the only one who is waiting for some kind of DOM to create docs via PHP? Possibly with updated fresh modules?

Re:PHP support? (1)

JumpDrive (1437895) | more than 4 years ago | (#31105004)

No, I have been waiting for something like this for about 5+ years.

Pasting tables? (1)

RalphSleigh (899929) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104790)

I installed 3.1 just last week because I needed some office on my machine and tried to paste some cells from calc into a writer document, a process that MSOffice 2003 does perfectly, and got some kind of embedded spreadsheet WTF with tiny font that actually distorted when you moved the handles at the side. Seems to get a table you need to actually 'paste as html', and even then there's no way to get to the bits that overflow off the right of the document...

I really want to love openoffice and will update, but my advice right now is clone Office 2003 first and worry about new features later. (Except give Calc a MD5 function, excel does not seem to have one)

Fixes my "calc" bug from 3.1.1 (4, Informative)

coats (1068) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104892)

Bug 108855: certain names in spreadsheet-to-spreadsheet links were forced to lower-case during "save."

Works fine with 3.2.0 -- the bug is gone.

I'm considering switching (1)

Antiocheian (859870) | more than 4 years ago | (#31104934)

Can search & replace, replace styles ?
Does it still have this drawing resizing bug [youtube.com] ?
Is it possible to see paragraph, character and list/numbering styles at the same pane ?
Does it support the ALT key for shortcuts ?
Does it still claim to require Java to run ?
Does it have table styles ?
Does it still paste OLE objects as GDI metafiles by default instead of their native application type (eg. Smartdraw), which means you can no longer edit them ?
Do I still have to set colors at the options instead of the built-in Windows color palette ? And when I change computer my colors lose their names ?

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