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Aussie Attorney General Says Gamers Are Scarier Than Biker Gangs

Soulskill posted more than 4 years ago | from the well-perhaps-in-some-senses dept.

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Sasayaki writes "South Australian Attorney-General Michael Atkinson claims, in an interview with Good Game, that gamers were more of a threat to his family than biker gangs. This is the man who has been the biggest opponent to Australia receiving an R18+ rating for video games and who has the power to veto any such law introducing it."

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Well, i guess so... (5, Funny)

gandhi_2 (1108023) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158052)

if you are a bag of Doritos.

Re:Well, i guess so... (5, Insightful)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158698)

To be fair, the context was that a gamer slipped a threatening note under his door. I think in general, zombies are scarier than my next door neighbor, but if my next door neighbor says he's going to burn down my house, and zombies remain fictional, temporarily my neighbor becomes scarier than zombies.

It's not a statement that should have been made by a politician in public though, and since he's keeping censorship going, he deserves whatever he gets (quotes taken out of context AND the threats). Furthermore, for him to fairly make the comparison, he needs to try banning motorcycles and then telling us which is scarier. I don't know much about motorcycle gangs, but I think they probably wouldn't have slid a note under his door, I think they would have slid a note on the end of their boot up his ass.

Re:Well, i guess so... (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31158988)

Also to be fair, he is easily scared. Most gamers go down crying profusely with a light girly punch.

Way easy to protect yourself from. Sitting on the couch 24/7 does not make you dangerous.

And dont worry about the posers that think they can shoot a gun... We had a open house day at the range and had some gamer geeks come in wanting to shoot a assault rifle. I watched as 4 out of the 5 never hit the target and 1 cut his eye open as he put his eye on the scope and did not put the butt tight to the shoulder like he was told... And this is all from a wimpy AK-47 a gun with some real kick would have owned them hard. 12 Ga shotguns would have thrown these jokers tot he floor.

Hells Angels (5, Funny)

e2d2 (115622) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158120)

I hear a challenge Hells Angels/Mongols/Pagans/Insert your club here. This guy just called you all a bunch of pussies!

Re:Hells Angels (1)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158204)

Hells Angles vs Captain N: The Game Master. Now that's a celebrity deathmatch worth watching :)

Re:Hells Angels (4, Funny)

rarel (697734) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158722)

Hell's Angles would be pretty tough for a nerd.

"TANGENT ATTACK! CHEW ON MY SATANIC PI! ONE THOUSAND DEGREEEEES HYPOTENUSE!"
"NOOO This value is... not... real.. not... possible!Gngngngnn.Must... Resist..." *faints*

Hell's Angles declared winners.

Re:Hells Angels (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31158232)

He's probably scared of all the clans with names like LORDS_OF_SATANDEATH666. Won't he be relieved to find out it's just a bunch of 12 year olds.

Re:Hells Angels (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31158392)

what is sat and eath?

Anal Bum Cover? (1)

mosb1000 (710161) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158538)

It that something like anal bum cover?

Re:Anal Bum Cover? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31158710)

I prefer The rapists...

Re:Hells Angels (4, Funny)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158800)

No, that's SATA N DEATH 666. It's a SerialATA specifications group who is concerned that SATA will reach 666 MB/s, and that this would indicate the coming of the Apocalypse by bringing one of the Four Horsemen, Death.

Re:Hells Angels (4, Funny)

Deadplant (212273) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158524)

according to TFA their 'biker gags' are called 'bikies'.
wtf?
makes sense now... who would be afraid of a widdle bikie-wikee gang?

Re:Hells Angels (1)

TubeSteak (669689) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158670)

I hear a challenge Hells Angels/Mongols/Pagans/Insert your club here. This guy just called you all a bunch of pussies!

The bikers are running a candidate for Attorney General against him.
Maybe the biker candidate should co-opt gamers by advocating their cause.

Re:Hells Angels (2, Insightful)

Ninth Marion (1310141) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158892)

I'd be less scared of a biker as Attorney General than a puritan nutjob like Atkinson.

That originally popped into my head as a joke, but I think it's actually true! See also his recent law banning anonymous speech.

Bwahahaha! (4, Insightful)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158148)

Where does Australia find these whack jobs? I mean, either the guy is a paranoid schizophrenic or a mental retard.

Re:Bwahahaha! (1)

geoffaus (623283) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158318)

Adelaide of course!

Re:Bwahahaha! (4, Funny)

guruevi (827432) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158320)

He's a politician. What do you expect - he's probably both?

Re:Bwahahaha! (4, Informative)

Red Flayer (890720) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158450)

I don't disagree that he's a whackjob. But if people bothered to RTFA (wishful thinking on my part)...

Atkinson's got very vocal opposition among biker gangs and gamers.

The reason he feels gamers are more of a threat to his family is because a gamer left a threatening note under his door one night. No biker has done that.

Put yourself in the same situation. What would you consider a more present threat to your safety -- a set of organizations who is opposing you politically (the biker gangs are putting forward their own candidate to run against him), or a set of individuals, one of which has made a threat, in writing, at your home?

Context is everything. The submitter, the editor, and all of the early posters like yourself should do yourselves a favor and (1) read the fucking quote before misattributing words to someone and (2) understand the context in which those words were said.

I'm addicted to slashdot, obviously so if you see my post history. But I'm sick of it becoming the geek tab of fark.

Re:Bwahahaha! (5, Insightful)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158642)

As a politician and (assuming Rudd isn't running everything) a setter of policy, it's his job to look beyond personal anecdotes. If he's making policy based solely on the fact that some nutjob left a note on his door, and he can't get past that, then he has no business being in a position where he does form policy. I'm sorry someone made some sort of a threat, but if he's suffered that significant an emotional scarring from it, perhaps he should recuse himself.

Re:Bwahahaha! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31158750)

You're putting the cart before the horse. The incident came about as a reaction to proposed policy, not vice-versa.

If you think he's setting policy based upon the incident, then you also did not bother reading about it at all. Please go to fark where your misinformed commentary would be more welcome.

Re:Bwahahaha! (4, Informative)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 4 years ago | (#31159030)

Australia must be a land of lolly pops and fluffy clouds, because I'd wager the Attorney General of any other reasonably large country on this planet probably receives a bag full of hate mail ever year. I can only imagine the kind of stuff the US Attorney General gets.

Re:Bwahahaha! (5, Informative)

rale, the (659351) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158644)

The article also mentions that in his scuffle with the bikers, he claimed they had BBQ'd and eaten a cat. Then was forced to admit he made it up. Why would you give him any credibility with regards to this supposed threat he received, when he has lied about his opposition in the past?

Re:Bwahahaha! (1, Informative)

Red Flayer (890720) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158830)

The article also mentions that in his scuffle with the bikers, he claimed they had BBQ'd and eaten a cat. Then was forced to admit he made it up. Why would you give him any credibility with regards to this supposed threat he received, when he has lied about his opposition in the past?

Good point, but completely ancillary to the problem I was writing about. :)

FWIW, the bikers did indeed barbecue and eat a cat. This is no surprise -- cats are a common BBQ treat among bikies down under, second in popularity only to shrimps on the barbie [1]. He just wasn't able to prove it, and so had to recant his claim or be sued for libel/slander.

[1] Citation needed. But the recantment was in response to a threatened legal action based upon his inability to prove what he claimed.

Re:Bwahahaha! (1)

Belial6 (794905) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158930)

There is nothing wrong with eating cat. Just because some countries have decided that they are too cute do eat doesn't make it wrong. In fact, I only wish that eating cat was legal and common where I live. Here in Northern California, cats have gotten to the point of being an infestation. The cat per square mile ratio simply cannot support them all, but people just keep feeding them and letting them breed with no predators. Maybe the Aussie bikers could give US bikers some good recipies.

Re:Bwahahaha! (1)

Xest (935314) | more than 4 years ago | (#31159042)

More to the point, why does a threat from one gamer automatically mean that gamers in general are more threatening?

Aussie Jack Thompson? (2, Insightful)

TiggertheMad (556308) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158912)

Interesting to note, that he basses his views of the groups as a whole on the behavior of individuals.

Were he to say, "I am more worried about black people* than Mexicans because a black person slipped a note under my door." he would get eaten alive by the public outcry. Apparently, it's ok to generalize based on traits that are chosen rather than inherited...

Re:Bwahahaha! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31158546)

Its ok I'm sure this fellow is just Jack Thompson who relocated to Australia and changed his name so he can practice law again legally.

Re:Bwahahaha! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31158550)

Where does Australia find these whack jobs? I mean, either the guy is a paranoid schizophrenic or a mental retard.

I think it's a side effect of Britain deporting all their criminals to Australia way back when.

/ducks

Re:Bwahahaha! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31158810)

/geese

Re:Bwahahaha! (1)

davester666 (731373) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158606)

Hello? What kind of people do you think they forcibly shipped from England?

It's not like North America, where people wanted to get away from English society... ;-)

Re:Bwahahaha! (1)

Pharmboy (216950) | more than 4 years ago | (#31159006)

I'm pretty sure the new North Americans were kicked out of England for being religious zealots, in which case I would say they are still here. It would appear that in both cases, not much has changed in either society.

Re:Bwahahaha! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31158780)

Where does Australia find these whack jobs?

The same place the US gets them...from the local church.

Re:Bwahahaha! (1)

PawNtheSandman (1238854) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158816)

They prefer to be called ra-tards.

Re:Bwahahaha! (3, Informative)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158914)

At least in the U.S. we disbarred Jack Thompson. In Australia, they made him Attorney General!

Re:Bwahahaha! (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 4 years ago | (#31159034)

It's a requirement for aussie politicians.

I believe it's a part of their constitution.

I'm pretty sure... (5, Insightful)

SharpFang (651121) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158156)

...it would be opposite if he was proposing a ban on motorcycles.

Re:I'm pretty sure... (2, Insightful)

megamerican (1073936) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158534)

The article states that he indeed, did:

Mr Atkinson was involved in introducing tough new laws to outlaw bikie gangs in South Australia several years ago.

At the time he said politicians and public officials had to put themselves "on the line" to take the gangs on.

How brave of him. Now he has to bravely face some teenager leaving a note at his door that most assuredly called him a "nigger faggot."

Article says he helped ban biker gangs (1)

Lemming Mark (849014) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158696)

To be fair, the article does say that he banned biker gangs and he's suggesting that he's under more threat over this games business than he was over that. Given somebody has evidently been round his house, slipping a note under the door, I can understand why the guy might be freaked out.

But as you pointed out, he's only banned / restricted biker gangs, not motorcycles. Banning motorcycles because of biker gangs would have annoyed a larger section of the population, many of whom would resent being grouped in with gangs just because of their transportation. Perhaps a larger number of indignant people makes a response like this more likely, although still not acceptable. In a sense the situation of banning motorcycles would be somewhat closer (although still more severe) to his stance on video games. At least he's not banning video games outright but he doesn't exactly seem to be being reasonable if he's allowing there to be an R18 rating. Aside from anything else, not having an appropriate rating encourages developers - and potentially the regulators themselves - to skate on thin ice and try and push products through that would more appropriately have a higher rating if it existed.

This is a political issue, so doing things like slipping a note under his door during the night is not going to help anyone. A sensible letter-writing campaign / publicity / demonstrations would seem more appropriate, something that will add political pressure for him to reconsider instead of making gamers look dangerous, which would only support his case.

What you should know of Michael Atkinson's family (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31158192)

They are a bunch of spawn camping llamas.

Even scarier - both (5, Funny)

davidwr (791652) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158194)

Biker gangs playing video games while driving - that's double scary.

But what about Biker gangs playing video games about biker games playing video games while driving, while driving???

Or what about ERR_STACK_OVERFLOW

Wow (1)

gparent (1242548) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158222)

Are the biker gangs in his town dressed up as teddy bears with pink helmets or something?

that IS scary! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31158566)

I'd give a wide berth to anyone sporting pink leathers...

Re:Wow (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 4 years ago | (#31159052)

Furries biker gangs?

Holy crap Australians are kinky!

Anecdotal Evidence Disagrees. (3, Interesting)

Oxford_Comma_Lover (1679530) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158234)

Gamers sometimes learn bad fictional behavior. (Consider the evil character paths in various D&D games.) Gamers frequently learn good fictional behavior. (Consider the hero character paths in many D&D games.)

In contrast, a chapter of Hell's Angels in Hamburg ran multiple houses for the rape of teenage girls and women held as slaves. (Sources: Victor Malarek's The Natashas, Terry Lee Wright's River of Innocents [riverofinnocents.com] .) They were responsible for enabling thousands of rapes in the real world.

Yes, it's atypical for a biker gang. But all things considered, it's more rare for the gamer.

Re:Anecdotal Evidence Disagrees. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31158602)

But all things considered, it's more rare for the gamer.

The time spent trying to find the USB port on a teenage girl means at most you will only ever have one girl kidnapped per Gamer...

Re:Anecdotal Evidence Disagrees. (1)

hypergreatthing (254983) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158664)

In halo, one can usually find cases of necrophilia/rape as people teabag their victims.

Re:Anecdotal Evidence Disagrees. (0, Troll)

will this name work (1548057) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158860)

Necrophilia is not rape... unless the victim dies in the process.

Re:Anecdotal Evidence Disagrees. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31158878)

Honestly though, it's a dead body. Who was hurt? Aside from the guy they just killed, who is now in "Heaven" with "Baby Jesus" and "the flying spaghetti monster"?

I hear that AG! (3, Funny)

AioKits (1235070) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158242)

I can't count the amount of times I've felt threatened on the highways here as a beat up, patchy painted Honda Civic pulls up with a triforce or horde sticker in one of the windows. If it's one car, you can usually outrun it as they're not really going to be paying attention, usually debating the merits of pixel shading with others in the car at this point. However, if it's more than one car, you can bet they have you in their sights. Especially after playing that brutal and vicious car game I saw in the arcades once.. Spy Hunter I think it was?

Or if I actually make it to a gas station and am fueling up, one of em might come over, push his glasses up or adjust the tape holding them together, asking what if I'm gonna reserve the new StarCraft! The horror!

I always feel much safer knowing that the guy next to me on that bike on the highway has a full body tattoo and a mustache, and so does his girlfriend on the bitch seat! I mean, at least they're not gamers, right?

* PS - This is intended as a lame attempt at humor, don't hurt me, I play games too! >.>

Re:I hear that AG! (3, Funny)

Stregano (1285764) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158482)

So you are going to reserve Starcraft 2, right? RIGHT?!?

Re:I hear that AG! (1)

AioKits (1235070) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158548)

Y-yes Sir.. Don't hurt me!

Re:I hear that AG! (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158746)

Whenever I see a beat up, patchy painted Honda Civic with a triforce or horde sticker in one of the windows, I fear for the future of humanity.

Blame game. (1)

BlueKitties (1541613) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158244)

Conservatives want to blame the gays; Liberals want to blame open media and expression of thought. On the right hand we have austere government imposed morality, on the left hand we have censorship nanny state. I'm not really sure which I hate more.

Re:Blame game. (1)

WinterSolstice (223271) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158312)

What happened to the far right "impose morality and open media on the government, and leave the citizens in charge"?

Can we mod our gov -1 redundant?

Re:Blame game. (0, Offtopic)

BlueKitties (1541613) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158342)

There is no -1 disagree.

Re:Blame game. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31158960)

Overrated

Re:Blame game. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31158454)

Conservatives want to blame the gays; Liberals want to blame open media and expression of thought.

Yeah, that's right - censorship is a liberal [boycottliberalism.com] trait!

Oh, right! [wikipedia.org]

Re:Blame game. (1)

jtev (133871) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158684)

Please look at the context. American liberalism and conservatism aren't the same as everywhere in the world. In fact, calling the ideas "liberal" or "conservative" is quite misleading. There are certain "Pet Rights" of each side of the political spectrum in the US, but that doesn't mean that they will be the same in all countries. Links to American politics therefore do not apply.

Soo.. (4, Insightful)

binarylarry (1338699) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158252)

What he's saying is, every person under 30 who lives in Australia is scarier than Biker Gangs?

Does he ever leave the house?

Re:Soo.. (1)

Vinegar Joe (998110) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158296)

Does he ever leave the house?

Of course he does.....with a large, well-armed security detail.

Re: Try scambaiting. (1)

Technician (215283) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158732)

For the ultimate thrill and hundreds of death threats, try pulling a few freight baits and get a scam gang to pay thousands of dollars for trash and insults.

http://thescambaiter.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1132 [thescambaiter.com]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzz1tNppsIM [youtube.com] Warning adult theme and language

This guy lost count of the death threats. ;-)
He has an ax to grind after the loss of $4,000 due to a bounced check. He grinds them well.
If you wondered about all those scam emails, this is the place to see how they all work.
Fake checks, Auction site scams (seller beware), apartment rental scams, it's all there.

Baiting scammers is a great hobby. Collect trophys, bust bank accounts, collect fake checks and more.
http://thescambaiter.com/ [thescambaiter.com] For the geeks, check out the gold coast bait! A GPS tracked case of cash adrift in the Atlantic. Fun stuff.

Re:Soo.. (1)

Blakey Rat (99501) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158736)

Not anymore! Too many gamers out there!

That's not a knife. (0, Offtopic)

gimmebeer (1648629) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158266)

*pulls out lvl48 warhammer w/+10 damage spell* THIS is a knife.

Re:That's not a knife. (0, Offtopic)

Whalou (721698) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158350)

You had me fooled. I thought it was a warhammer.

Re:That's not a knife. (1, Offtopic)

KTheorem (999253) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158786)

"Warhammer" is the name of his knife.

The guy's right (-1, Troll)

Daimanta (1140543) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158270)

I expect all Slashdot verbally abusing this guy for being a neocon and an enemy of freedom and a paranoid lunatic but the fact is this guy actually got threatened. This means that somebody has tried to intimidate him and state that he will hurt him/his family. Since no biker gangs have done this but a gamer did(you can never tell how dangerous these people are) he is absolutely right that gamers are scarier to him than biker gangs.

Then comes the internet and blows this totally out proportion and saying that this guy thinks that gamers are generally more dangerous than bikers in order to discredit him. I find that incredibly lame and it reeks of an attack campaign against the Australian Attorney General.

Good job loser(s), you just ruined your credibility. In the meantime this guy has got some arrows on his bow to fire at gamers. Congratulations again, you just helped your opponent by giving him media attention.

Re:The guy's right (2, Insightful)

ElectricTurtle (1171201) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158386)

Jesus, who are you, his wife? Hur dur, a random crazy threatened him, but no bikers have... why might that be? Let's see him support legislation outlawing biker gangs, see how many threats he gets.

Re:The guy's right (1)

ElectricTurtle (1171201) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158540)

I retract my previous post, as I finished the article and it turns out he did exactly that. Bleh.

Re:The guy's right (1)

jason.sweet (1272826) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158658)

He's pissed the biker's off enough that they are running a candidate against him. It seems that he compared the childish, illogical response to the mature, productive response and made the correct assessment.

Re:The guy's right (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31158748)

That would be like if an Asian woman once cut in front of my car on the highway, so now I'm justified to think that all Asian women are jerks. Conversely, if a black guy once held a door for me, it would make sense for me to respect all black men regardless of their personal history or temperament.

Judging any group by a sampling, however large or small, is sheer bigotry. There are always exceptions, and the smaller the sample being judged, (in this case, one) the more likely that there are a lot of exceptions.

Re:The guy's right (1)

ElectricTurtle (1171201) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158760)

Today is just not my day. I accidentally checked the AC box on that... no karma for me.

Re:The guy's right (1)

jason.sweet (1272826) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158964)

I'm not saying there are no holes in his argument. His statements have more to do with pandering to his constituency than with how he feels about the safety of his family. I'm just pointing out that he is publicly at odds with bikers as well.
Karma is overrated.

Re:The guy's right (1)

jtev (133871) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158720)

He did. The "Bikeies" as they are called down under are running a candidate against him. The gamers are stalking him and leaving personal threats. Yes, I actually did RTFA.

Re:The guy's right (1)

ElectricTurtle (1171201) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158808)

So did I, and retracted [slashdot.org] my previous post before you even started yours, unless you type really slowly.

Re:The guy's right (5, Insightful)

Qzukk (229616) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158554)

this guy thinks that gamers are generally more dangerous than bikers in order to discredit him.

Quote:

"I feel that my family and I are more at risk from gamers than we are from the outlaw motorcycle gangs who also hate me and are running a candidate against me"

He didn't say "from a gamer" he said "from gamers", as in the whole group. As opposed to the outlaw motorcycle gangs, as in their whole group. He feels that gamers are more dangerous than bikers. If he's never received a death threat from anyone but a gamer, then perhaps he's justified in feeling that way, but I'm seriously surprised that this is the first death threat an AG would get.

I do have to say that the motorcycle gangs have a better long term plan than the gamers do at this point. Someone should start a gamer party and run for election on the grounds that you actually know something about what you're trying to regulate.

Re:The guy's right (2, Insightful)

Red Flayer (890720) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158910)

He feels that gamers are more dangerous than bikers.

No. That generalization of his quote is incorrect. You are correct in gernealizing from "a gamer" to "gamers" -- but you are incorrect in generalizing from his family being at risk to other families, or individuals, or all of society being at risk.

Considering that he claims a credible threat was made against him by gamers, and none by bikers, you can see his rationale for believe that *his specific family* is more threatened by gamers.

That does not mean that you can generalize his beliefs to include *gamers in general* are more dangerous than *bikers in general* regardless of the subject of the risk assessment.

+3 reaction adjustment (1)

TiggertheMad (556308) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158948)

Someone should start a gamer party and run for election on the grounds that you actually know something about what you're trying to regulate.

Awesome idea! Who do we know that has an 18 charisma to head up the party?

Re:The guy's right (1)

testostertwo (1203692) | more than 4 years ago | (#31159036)

Someone should start a gamer party and run for election on the grounds that you actually know something about what you're trying to regulate.

Or even just join the Bikers party and stand a better chance of fixing both asinine attitudes at once. In my opinion politicians as a group represent more of a danger than bikers _or_ gamers.

now now now... (1)

Moheeheeko (1682914) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158284)

..there has been many a victim of a gamers....getting up, wheezing, using his inhaler and then starting a hate thread on 4chan.

A matter of scale OR politics (or both) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31158298)

This is really a two-sided failure of understanding on his part OR a purposeful tactic to push his agenda. Either way is stupid. First off, to say the gamer demographic in AU is several orders of magnitude larger than the outlaw biker demographic is a GROSS understatement. So it follows that you are going to get more 'fringe' elements in the gamer segment. There's bound to be a few nuts in a box that big. Combine that with the fact that it would be totally in their worst interests for the bikers to do something like this, and of course he's going to get more threats from gamers. And honestly, he should feel more threatened. Not because they're going to take violent action against him, but because he's pissed off a large group of people, and a good deal of them may have political clout and means to make his life a public servant miserable. And they should, because he's an asshat.

Veto? (5, Informative)

afidel (530433) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158308)

Wow, the AG has the power of the veto in .AU? That's a pretty strange arrangement where the guy charged with enforcing the law gets to decide if something should be a law.

Re:Veto? (2, Interesting)

Beezlebub33 (1220368) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158480)

If there is a law, and the AG doesn't enforce it, it might as well not be a law. That's an (implicit) form of veto. Of course, the summary is hyperbole, but the key point (that the guy's a loon and in a position to affect how the law is applied) is correct.

Re:Veto? (1)

pavon (30274) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158692)

On the other-hand, the AG isn't normally allowed to continue to enforce laws that have been repealed. Having the power to veto bills that change laws in ways he doesn't like would effectively give him this ability (limited to any override process).

Of course! (3, Funny)

geoffaus (623283) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158330)

Of course they are scarier - they get multiple lives!

Well....Yeah? (1)

Drakin020 (980931) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158354)

And Bikers would be more of a threat to me than terrorist if I tried to outlaw motorcycles.

Christians would be more of a threat than street thugs if I tried to ban religion.

It's stating the obvious here....

WTF? (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158408)

Aren't all Australians compelled by law to watch Mad Max? Surely that should provide suitable education on the dangers of biker gangs...

ok... (2, Funny)

kaoshin (110328) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158418)

"He was later forced to apologise. The animal was not a cat, the incident happened at another location and bikies weren't involved."

This bloke is a dill mates.

What a tit (4, Insightful)

Attaturk (695988) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158424)

I'm not sure whether my biker self or my gamer self is more offended by this arsehat. I've met and hung out with dozens of "biker gangs" at various rallies - yes including the patch clubs that people refer to here like they're comprised of mindless hooligans - and felt safer in their company than when taking a trip through a town centre on a Friday or Saturday night.

In short, "biker gang" is not shorthand for dangerous thug. Nor is "gamer" shorthand for brainwashed serial killer. And while we're at it I'm pretty sure that "Australian politician" doesn't mean paranoid, misinformed and dangerously ignorant jerk"... but I could be wrong.

Just a thought Mr Atkinson but perhaps your ill-considered bigotry is what causes people to take such a dim view of you. A single gamer harrassing you is more likely indicative that you've pissed someone off personally than that all gamers are out to get you and your family. Gah.

is he right? (1)

TheCarp (96830) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158428)

I think he is!

Thats to say... I agree that biker gangs are about as ridiculous of a thing to worry about harming your family as video games.

Unless you have lots of contact with a biker gang, or have 1%er in the family, or have some other factor which makes you more likely to be involved in biker gang violence (maybe you are a meth addict with a penchant for not havening the money?) or maybe if you live next door to a particularly disliked gang member or chapter president, then... really.... what a stupid thing to worry about.

Theres what, maybe, one biker gang member per couple of million per capita here. Are they like 15%ers in Australia? Are biker gangs like soccer hooligans? Do the outlaw bikers have a national political party?

I mean seriously.... why not compare the danger of video games to lightning strikes or shark attacks as dangers to your family. How do they rate against.... dust mites! I garauntee bed bugs are worst!

-Steve

Re:is he right? (1)

TheCarp (96830) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158486)

Ok, I am going to fucking shut up now.... I got p0wn3d:

"I feel that my family and I are more at risk from gamers than we are from the outlaw motorcycle gangs who also hate me and are running a candidate against me," he said on ABC TV's Good Game.

Wow...um.... so if you live in Australia...do worry about the biker gang party.... holy shit.

-Steve

Re:is he right? (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 4 years ago | (#31159072)

You know, I always thought Mad Max was a futuristic post-apocalyptic film series, not a documentary on the Australian socio-political scene.

Re:is he right? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31159058)

WTF is a 1%er or a 15%er? Is it something to do with what beer they drinks?

This guy is going to piss him... (2, Funny)

MindlessAutomata (1282944) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158512)

This guy is going to piss himself if he meets a gamer that's in a biker gang.

Re:This guy is going to piss him... (1)

ElectricTurtle (1171201) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158586)

Apparently there are some such here on /. [slashdot.org]

And for that matter, how does he know the threat didn't come from a gamer who was also a biker?

This might be true (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31158726)

Isn't this guy is responsible for delaying, censoring, and outright banning numerous games released in Australia. Maybe there is a merit to gamers being more of a threat to him and his family than bikers. I kinda doubt he has gone out and intentionally kicked any full-patch Hell's Angels in balls recently, but he has gone out and neutered Left 4 Dead 2, just saying.

Shh, don't tell him... (2, Insightful)

Mysticalfruit (533341) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158776)

That a bunch of gamers got together and raised 1.7M dollars for charity last year to give to sick kids in the hospital, including two hospitals in Australia on the east coast...

Its the truth!! (2, Funny)

Xanator (1740516) | more than 4 years ago | (#31158974)

If you ever wiped a raid in World of Warcraft, you'll believe this guy, those guys can get really scary, specially when they found out you did it on purpose just to see what the "fear button" did :P


Believe me there is nothing more scary than 24 angry players with huge repair bills, and no epic loot.....

He's on to us! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31159046)

Our plans have been discovered early! Now our time has come! Gamers everywhere, flock to your mopeds and your scooters, or borrow a ride from your mother. We shall gather and overthrow the authority known as government. Our battle cry shall be fearsome, as we scream “Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A”! And as our numbers fall, we shall terrify the enemy, for our army will rise again, as we know the cheat code for infinite lives! Gather your arms, your light guns and joysticks. We shall prevail!

I might be a little bit late... My guy is almost to level 30 and I can't find a save point anywhere...

I'd have to agree with him... (1)

jafo (11982) | more than 4 years ago | (#31159068)

I'd agree that gamers are more of a threat to my family than biker gangs. But that's just because, as far as I have observed, biker gangs don't exist; or at least they don't exist in my world. However, gamers do exist, I've seen them with my own two eyes.

However, if they did exist and a biker gang were trying to break into my house, I'd want a bunch of gamers with me. I mean, if there isn't already a training simulation out there with that story, I'm sure there will be one soon.

Coming soon from Big Lizzard Entertainment: Bikers versus Gamers.

Sean
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