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Microsoft RickRolls Wi-Fi Network Leechers

samzenpus posted more than 4 years ago | from the never-gonna-tell-a-lie-and-hurt-you dept.

It's funny.  Laugh. 165

An anonymous reader writes "Microsoft has revealed that it RickRolled users that were killing its TechEd conference Wi-Fi network last year by torrenting large files. Network administrators at the event quickly built a list of all of the top torrent trackers around and got the nod to add them all to the local DNS resolver and point them at a local Web server containing some Rick Roll scripts. According to the admin: 'It killed me that I didn't see anyone getting done by this first hand, but there were hundreds of impressions in the server logs containing the Rick Roll scripts so I did get a fair amount of satisfaction at least. It was the most evil of evil Rick Roll scripts too — worse than any that anyone has used to get me in the past.' Fun and games aside, it looks like the leechers will force quotas and traffic shaping for the first time in the event's history."

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165 comments

3...2...1... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31181742)

ASCII goatse in 3...2...1...

It could have been worse... (5, Funny)

Mattskimo (1452429) | more than 4 years ago | (#31181752)

At least it wasn't Soulja Boy.

Re:It could have been worse... (1)

sopssa (1498795) | more than 4 years ago | (#31181940)

At least it wasn't Soulja Boy.

Or this [youtube.com] .

Re:It could have been worse... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31182602)

I've seen worse [youtube.com] .

Re:It could have been worse... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31182836)

You mean "This video is not available in your country."?

I get the same for Anonymous' video :(

- Posting from Germany

Re:It could have been worse... (1)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 4 years ago | (#31184562)

I guess this is the first time I am happy to see a “not available in my country” error. ;)

A microcosm of why socialism is a failure (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31183242)

It's human nature. The freeloader problem can only be overcome by making everyone pay their own way.

Re:A microcosm of why socialism is a failure (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31183908)

Did you get that quote from Bioshock? Go back to Ayn Rand

Please tell me... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31181802)

that whoever owns the rights to "Never Gonna Give You Up" is receiving royalties.

Re:Please tell me... (0, Troll)

ArsenneLupin (766289) | more than 4 years ago | (#31181820)

that whoever owns the rights to "Never Gonna Give You Up" is receiving royalties.

Maybe now is the time to gently introduce Micro$oft to the MAFIAA... That bloodshed should be phun to watch...

Re:Please tell me... (2, Funny)

sopssa (1498795) | more than 4 years ago | (#31181924)

But if they embedded it from YouTube, Google would take the heat.

Sounds like a plan.

Re:Please tell me... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31182536)

Wow... you spelled Microsoft with a $ AND substituted a "ph" for an "f." I've been told it's a little backwards in Luxembourg, but is it really still 1996 there?! I mean, if you absolutely must rely upon American geek conventions to look cool, can't you at least find some current ones?

Re:Please tell me... (1)

Miseph (979059) | more than 4 years ago | (#31184092)

Aw heeellll naw, foo! Don't be hatin' just cuz you're AC, yo.

Let's roll on Dubs. LL Cool J. Civics look good with racing stripes and wings.

Re:Please tell me... (1)

LordSnooty (853791) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182116)

Stock Aitken Waterman made more than enough cash at the turn of the 90s. In 1990 something like 2% of all records sold in the UK were produced by them. Between 1988 and 1990 there wasn't a single week when a record of theirs was not in the top 75.

Re:Please tell me... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31184368)

I'd be surprised if it was as low as 2% at their peak. Seriously.

1990 was their last year of major success, and they were probably past their peak by then. I shudder to think what it would have been circa 1988...

Re:Please tell me... (2, Informative)

xorsyst (1279232) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182272)

it doesn't make sense to me (3, Interesting)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 4 years ago | (#31183374)

that this man thinks a song from 1987 should still be earning him money

yes, LEGALLY, he has a case, but morally and philosophically, he just seems like a giant asshole

fact: there are no morally or philosophically coherent grounds that a song from 1987 should anyone anything. really

and if you believe otherwise, you very much are a good definition of what is wrong with this world, in terms of a stunning display of greed backed up with force, overwhelming the common good

Re:it doesn't make sense to me (4, Interesting)

WCguru42 (1268530) | more than 4 years ago | (#31183836)

and if you believe otherwise, you very much are a good definition of what is wrong with this world, in terms of a stunning display of greed backed up with force, overwhelming the common good

What if I want to pretend that I believe this in the hopes that the RIAA will send it's dogs after Microsoft's (and maybe Google's) wolves and never come back. I feel fairly confident that Microsoft and Google have lawyers that would tear the RIAA apart in a real battle. There's a reason the RIAA hasn't taken strong tactics against them (specifically Google via YouTube) in the past.

why? (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 4 years ago | (#31183296)

on what morally or philosophically coherent grounds does it make any sense to you that a song from the 1987 should still be earning anyone any money?

Re:why? (1)

Sophira (1364317) | more than 4 years ago | (#31183386)

what does that prove? (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 4 years ago | (#31183520)

someone made money off a song from 1992. so what?

yes, in today's legal environment, this is possible. but it's not a defensible status quo

Re:what does that prove? (1)

srussia (884021) | more than 4 years ago | (#31183664)

Here's Rick himself getting RickRolled (or RodeRickRolled, something circletimessquare might appreciate):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLq_T-3z9co [youtube.com]

At least he's still giving live performances to make his money.

COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31181806)

Public performance of an artist's work without paying the lawers, er I mean the artist! Suing time

Re:COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT (1)

geekmux (1040042) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182028)

Public performance of an artist's work without paying the lawers, er I mean the artist! Suing time

That's OK, Microsoft is so eeeevil, they'll just buy it. No, not the song, I mean they'll buy Rick.

Anybody know what he's up to these days, I mean besides being the "who the hell is this?!?" guy to a whole new generation...

Re:COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT (2, Informative)

angelwolf71885 (1181671) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182454)

according to VH1's top 1 hit wonders witch had the now infamous song he still sings and is enjoying his new found fame and still makes new songs

Re:COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT (1)

peragrin (659227) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182472)

why would they buy Rick he doesn't hold the copyright? his studios own those copyrights along with his soul and all of his loans, including credit cards,

it is the catch 22 of the music industry that is never really talked about.

Re:COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31182722)

why would they buy Rick he doesn't hold the copyright? his studios own those copyrights along with his soul and all of his loans, including credit cards,

it is the catch 22 of the music industry that is never really talked about.

Er, funny how most major artists signed today aren't running around broke asking for spare change. And no, I don't call "broke" spending ALL your money on bitches, blow, and bling.

Point is if THAT is what you call a "catch-22", most of us wouldn't mind being caught in that financial crossfire.

Re:COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31182986)

The "Catch-22" is that you have to *gasp* assign your rights to someone in exchange for money?! What has this world come to?!

Let me be the first to tell you that copyright law actually had the artists' backs on this one. In order to allow artists to recover their early works that they may have assigned the rights to for far less than they're worth now (an economically suitable amount at the time given the risk to the buyer), copyright law allows the artists to cancel the assignment after some time. The right is inalienable.

It's a really long time, something like 40 years I think, but it's still something unique to what many people incorrectly think is a scam for artists.

Re:COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT (1)

Darkinspiration (901976) | more than 4 years ago | (#31184376)

A right the RIAA and MPAA have all but destroyed for any work created after 1980

Evil (5, Funny)

DeBaas (470886) | more than 4 years ago | (#31181838)

Rick Rolling, told you Microsoft is evil ;-)

Re:Evil (5, Insightful)

The Mighty Buzzard (878441) | more than 4 years ago | (#31181928)

Network admins are evil by default, Microsoft or not. Most of them aren't nearly as creatively hilarious as this though.

Re:Evil (1)

Enforcer 27.16.12.0 (1747776) | more than 4 years ago | (#31183278)

My network admin enjoys taking my internet away whenever I am working. I am a Computer Technician so I need it almost all day. But he does not care. He laughs while I fail.

Re:Evil (2, Funny)

WCguru42 (1268530) | more than 4 years ago | (#31183946)

My network admin enjoys taking my internet away whenever I am working. I am a Computer Technician so I need it almost all day. But he does not care. He laughs while I fail.

Strengthening your forearm so you can better use a screw driver does not count as work.

Re:Evil (4, Funny)

sycorob (180615) | more than 4 years ago | (#31184354)

Am I the only one that's terrified to click on any links here?

Just for fun (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31181890)

Suggestions please for equivalent at Apple & Linux events?

Re:Just for fun (3, Funny)

stonedcat (80201) | more than 4 years ago | (#31181912)

Chair throwing video?

Re:Just for fun (3, Insightful)

Beale (676138) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182438)

Appropriate variants of the 1984 ad.

Re:Just for fun (3, Funny)

Lars T. (470328) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182966)

Suggestions please for equivalent at Apple & Linux events?

Force install of Win ME.

Re:Just for fun (2, Funny)

Gonoff (88518) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182990)

ME is not an operating system. It's a medical Condition.

Re:Just for fun (1)

Arthur Grumbine (1086397) | more than 4 years ago | (#31184006)

You, sir, apparently have trouble distinguishing between humor and sadistic malice. I also find your comment terribly insensitive towards those who had/have to provide technical support for friends and family using ME. They try to deny it, but I know their just using ME.

Re:Just for fun (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31183302)

The free software song by Stallman.

Re:Just for fun (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31183858)

Who cares, only 1 guy will get to see it.

Call the RIAA (1)

upto0013 (1144677) | more than 4 years ago | (#31181914)

Call the RIAA!

ObRoll (4, Funny)

wiredlogic (135348) | more than 4 years ago | (#31181970)

Just to get things rolling. Here is the tasteful mashup [youtube.com] with Nirvana.

Re:ObRoll (1)

TornCityVenz (1123185) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182256)

To complain about problems encountered while using their network a help line was published. 772-257-4501 Call for assistance.

Re:ObRoll (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31182456)

Cobain must be rickrolling in his grave. :-)

p.s. I hate Astley as much as the next guy, but that mashup is awesome.

Lame (1, Funny)

kregg (1619907) | more than 4 years ago | (#31181984)

Rick Rolling is so last year....

Re:Lame (1, Funny)

Renderer of Evil (604742) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182212)

Rick Rolling is so last year....

What did you expect? This is Microsoft we're talking about here. They're always behind by a full year or five when it comes to internet memes.

Maybe they'll redirect people to Epic Bearded Man video during the 2014 TechED.

Re:Lame (4, Informative)

c6gunner (950153) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182264)

Rick Rolling is so last year....

gee ...

"Microsoft has revealed that it RickRolled users that were killing its TechEd conference WiFi network last year ....

Look on the bright side - at least you didn't make a total ass of yourself by saying:

What did you expect? This is Microsoft we're talking about here. They're always behind by a full year or five when it comes to internet memes.

Can you spell DoS? (4, Funny)

nuckfuts (690967) | more than 4 years ago | (#31181992)

From TFA:

So we scheduled this script to run each minute to generate a list of offending MAC addresses.

We reasoned that if you had a lot of mappings, and that a large proportion of those mappings were to a lot of distinct remote hosts, and largely not idle, that you are probably a Torrenter. OTOH, if you had, say, 20 connections open to a single host or a low number of hosts then this is probably quite fine.

These scripts output a list of bad MACs, that we then just dropped into a block list in the core switches.

And there you have it. The culprits fingered and booted off the network. Of course, they then just changed their MAC addresses, in which case they were then re-identified as soon as their utilisation crept up, and the new MAC was banned.

This approach will work fine until one of the culprits decides to spoof the MAC address of your DNS servers (or whoever else they want to f*ck with) and gets them "booted off the network".

Re:Can you spell DoS? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31182026)

It's TechEd, not Hacking At Large (HAL2001). I recall somebody was taken aside for spoofing the mac address of an important server, the DNS server iirc.

Re:Can you spell DoS? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31182282)

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Re:Can you spell DoS? (1)

chrismeidinger (1469419) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182294)

you mean so the DNS servers can no longer authenticate to the wireless access points? oh lordy! in a routed network you can't even find out the MAC addresses of hosts in another broadcast domain.

Re:Can you spell DoS? (2, Insightful)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182678)

This approach will work fine until one of the culprits decides to spoof the MAC address of your DNS servers (or whoever else they want to f*ck with) and gets them "booted off the network".

If you're on a different interface from the DNS server, how will you even know the MAC? And if you're on a different interface, what makes you think it will even work? Most APs have DNS proxies anyway, and no device worth using will send you packets destined for itself.

Re:Can you spell DoS? (2, Insightful)

Lars T. (470328) | more than 4 years ago | (#31183044)

These scripts output a list of bad MACs, that we then just dropped into a block list in the core switches.

And there you have it. The culprits fingered and booted off the network. Of course, they then just changed their MAC addresses, in which case they were then re-identified as soon as their utilisation crept up, and the new MAC was banned.

This approach will work fine until one of the culprits decides to spoof the MAC address of your DNS servers (or whoever else they want to f*ck with) and gets them "booted off the network".

Yeah, I'm sure they don't have a whitelist of MAC addresses from their own infrastructure that gets dropped very early in the scripts. Or an ACL on the switch that blocks them on every port they shouldn't be on.

Re:Can you spell DoS? (1)

jeffmeden (135043) | more than 4 years ago | (#31184020)

The DNS server would, by their definition, be blacklisted almost immediately since it too will be creating a LOT of distinct connections to different addresses. Assuming they didn't shoot themselves in the foot by doing this (not adding it to a whitelist), they should be safe from would-be attackers.

Much more annoying and troublesome would be a DoS of random other participants, blacking out everyone's access. That is, until the mob mentality kicks in and anyone caught watching a screener of the new Twilight movie while sitting in a presentation is immediately beaten up and thrown out of the building.

How do Rick Roll scripts work? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31182018)

Can you change the content of a file while it is being downloaded.? I would expect the client to have some hash-keys to detect that. Is this just a question of modifying the contents of all downloaded torrent-files, so they point somewhere else?

Re:How do Rick Roll scripts work? (1)

sopssa (1498795) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182034)

They couldn't had technically change the files being downloaded, so they probably just put a rickroll video on the actual bittorrent websites.

Re:How do Rick Roll scripts work? (1)

d3ac0n (715594) | more than 4 years ago | (#31183176)

No. If you RTFA you will see that they actually set their DNS to point to a "fake" tracker that was hosted locally and served up a rick astley video .torrent regardless of the .torrent requested.

So the client would request say, the mininova tracker and would be returned an IP by the DNS. The IP was actually the local spoof server. The spoof server would receive the request for (insert random torrent file here).torrent from the torrent client but would actually return "rick_roll_video.torrent" renamed to whatever the client was actually requesting.

The problem with doing it this way is that the fake torrent would fail the hash check, causing the client to re-request over and over and never actually download the "Rick roll". Of course, in the end the Admin got what they wanted; A reduction in traffic from torrenters. Personally I think they would have been better served to simply null route the IPs of any and all known trackers, but that doesn't have the poetic justice and sheer fun of a Rick roll.

It's a creative and funny (if ultimately pointless) way to deal with someone being an asshole and sucking up gratis bandwidth at a learning function with bit-torrent.

Re:How do Rick Roll scripts work? (1)

netsharc (195805) | more than 4 years ago | (#31183622)

Well, making the downloads fail is a bit dumb, they should just intercept the HTTP-download request for the original torrent file, parse the file, and serve up the rick_roll.avi.torrent with the filename replaced with the file the downloader wanted (so it'll be called family.guy.s8e12.avi, but only 50MB big and contain Rick Astley). And maybe a readme.txt if you want to scare them...

Re:How do Rick Roll scripts work? (1)

d3ac0n (715594) | more than 4 years ago | (#31184492)

I think you are misunderstanding. We aren't talking about the initial download of the .torrent file. We are talking about an already active torrent client running. So there is no http-download request, that was already done.

Re:How do Rick Roll scripts work? (4, Informative)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 4 years ago | (#31183298)

No. As I understand it, those who are rickrolled basically get a customized DNS response that points all page requests to a local server with one web page and a blind redirect to that web page. That single web page has an embedded rickroll video.

Somewhat similar to how airports on a pay-for connection, or hotel connections work. Try to go to any website, and you get redirected to a login or purchase page.

Presumably any other connections not on port 80 (torrent, FTP, etc) are dropped.

So if you're surfing the web while torrenting, you'll get the rickroll video on the next page you load after you are detected, and you'll find that all of your torrents suddenly stop connecting.

Resource allocation (2, Insightful)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182024)

When managing a resource such as CPU time, memory use or network traffic there should be ways to transparently mediate between users. You set some simple rules like "everybody gets a go" or "each host gets a slice of the network" and write some simple software to implement it.

Okay so thats traffic shaping and I know its not as simple as I make it out to be but the approach used here seems crude and a waste of man hours.

Re:Resource allocation (2, Funny)

muzzmac (554127) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182036)

Okay so thats traffic shaping and I know its not as simple as I make it out to be but the approach used here seems crude and a waste of man hours.

"Man hours"? Don't you mean "evil genius" hours?

Re:Resource allocation (1)

jeffmeden (135043) | more than 4 years ago | (#31184044)

A profile that put all the torrent-like traffic into a queue with 25kbit/s of bandwidth would have probably been more effective, you are right. But honestly, if you had the chance to rick-roll those dicks, wouldn't you?

Re:Resource allocation (1)

socsoc (1116769) | more than 4 years ago | (#31184220)

Yep. Since someone at some point gave him the go ahead to do this ridiculous idea that wasted time and it did little... I can't believe that they hadn't already made the call to block most ports or filter dns requests. This sounds a lot like a really poorly managed conference network and a really bored admin. Really though, it's a 150mbps network. That's like when I was in college and downloaded linux isos from other universities just to see how fast the transfer would be. It's not my fault if they allowed me to saturate the network that I was a guest on.

Been Slashdotted (4, Informative)

one cup of coffee (1623645) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182056)

It looks like the news link has been Slashdotted, Here's a mirror to the link

ic news story Microsoft [youtube.com]

Re:Been Slashdotted (1)

ZeroExistenZ (721849) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182070)

That looks like a.. oh wait a minute.. mirrors on youtube? I'm not falling for this one again...

Re:Been Slashdotted (1)

shentino (1139071) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182146)

Damnit...I not only got rickrolled but I Lost The Game too.

oblig. xkcd (2, Funny)

ChinggisK (1133009) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182366)

Re:oblig. xkcd (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31182464)

SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP.

Please.

Re:Been Slashdotted (1)

notnAP (846325) | more than 4 years ago | (#31183970)

The sheer brilliance of slashdot is revealed in this post not by the poster (granted, good job though), but by the moderators who modded the post all the way up to +5 Informative instead of funny. If I could mod a mod, I'd mod that fucking hilarious.

Re:Been Slashdotted (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31184154)

Modding funny doesn't positively affect karma. Matter of fact, if a funny-modded post is downvoted, you *lose* karma- it's a well-known flaw in the modding system that has been around for years. Why hasn't it been fixed? Fuck knows...

So if people only modded funny posts as intended, the users will at best gain nothing and possibly lose karma- particularly if there's a lot of up/down-voting.

Re:Been Slashdotted (1)

socsoc (1116769) | more than 4 years ago | (#31184238)

Funny mods don't provide any karma. Since it was so clever, they probably went with informative to provide karma and also additionally rickroll people.

Linux? (1, Interesting)

muftak (636261) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182162)

I bet they used Linux to do this... is it even possible to do something like this in windows?

Re:Linux? (1)

commlinx (1068272) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182514)

I bet they used Linux to do this... is it even possible to do something like this in windows?

Well Windows server platforms do happen to have a functional DNS and web server. Sure they might be a bit bloated bit this would have been trivial under either O/S.

Redirecting trackers (2, Interesting)

threephaseboy (215589) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182170)

So you redirect a BT client to a "rickroll" whenever it tries to get a list of peers, and this page is never seen by the end user.
You did a great job!
Oh wait...

We reasoned that if you had a lot of mappings, and that a large proportion of those mappings were to a lot of distinct remote hosts, and largely not idle, that you are probably a Torrenter.(...) These scripts output a list of bad MACs, that we then just dropped into a block list in the core switches.

Yeah, that might have been a little more helpful than redirecting a client (which will just use DHT instead to find peers)

Re:Redirecting trackers (1, Insightful)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 4 years ago | (#31183448)

Sure it is. Most of these people are going to be surfing the Web at the same time. Especially once they see all their Torrents go to zero, they'll want to log in and see if their tracker is down. Start up their web browser, go to their torrent site, and get rickrolled.

The important part is that the torrents are dropped. If the (ab)user also gets rickrolled, it's considered a bonus.

What surprises me... (-1, Troll)

Mr. Firewall (578517) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182178)

...is that a Micro$oft employee actually had the brains to figure all of this out. M$ is not known for their networking expertise.

Re:What surprises me... (3, Insightful)

Bad Ad (729117) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182236)

because they dont have several websites that have huge amounts of hits (windows update, hotmail, etc) so they clearly couldnt know anything about networking.

Re:What surprises me... (0, Troll)

jo42 (227475) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182506)

At one point in space-time, Messysoft used to farm out their downloads to 3rd parties.
Possibly they've hired enough highly educated idjits to do it themselves by now.

Re:What surprises me... (1)

ZeroExistenZ (721849) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182874)

Possibly they've hired enough highly educated idjits to do it themselves by now.

I challenge thé, to setup a company, manage it to outperform Microsoft after you've modified a minimal "discarted" OS yourself and repackaged it to sell it as your own, with support and an agile development cycle, staying under a 2 percentile bugrate on all code in production while each "release" you have to think up something that seems to be "fresh" enough or an "improvement" over the last version in order to resell your updates while you grow to thousands of employees to work it all and above all, try to compete with Apple and make Linux look like a "hobby project" vs an industry standard for tooling (you cry, it's the truth.).

You get 5 years to success, starting in your garage. Success will be received by a strong handshake and respect, failure will just confirm expectations and will be smiled upon.

5,4,3,2,1... GO!

Re:What surprises me... (1)

RogerWilco (99615) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182888)

I understood from the article (I must be new here) that they went to the developers of ipnat.sys, the driver in windows itself. I suppose those know something about networking, especially their own code.

TBF with a big bucket (5, Informative)

jamesh (87723) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182232)

I solved this problem at the local library's public access wireless with a linux router and a token bucket filter with a big bucket. Each IP address gets a 10MByte bucket that fills up at 256kbits/second. The bucket is big enough that they'll never know they are limited for normal browsing, but a torrent sucks it try really fast and drops down to a slow enough speed that it's not really worthwhile. And even if they do stick with it at least they aren't burning through tens of gigabytes per day. It beats any other filter i've ever tried.

I still fondly remember the howls of dismay from the leechers when I turned it... they just couldn't understand why their downloads start at 20mbits/second but slow down to a crawl almost straight away :)

Re:TBF with a big bucket (1)

trawg (308495) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182480)

Do you have any implementation details of how you did this? This sounds like a really awesome and handy trick, love to know how it's done if you don't mind sharing!

Re:TBF with a big bucket (1)

advocate_one (662832) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182518)

such a pity you can't patent this now you've bragged about it... or have you already patented it?

TBF with a big bucket-Howls of pain. (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31182622)

"I still fondly remember the howls of dismay from the leechers when I turned it... they just couldn't understand why their downloads start at 20mbits/second but slow down to a crawl almost straight away :)"

You wouldn't happen to have an audio copy by any chance?

Re:TBF with a big bucket-Howls of pain. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31183048)

It was probably something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YersIyzsOpc [youtube.com] (not a rick-roll)

Re:TBF with a big bucket (2, Funny)

Ihmhi (1206036) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182676)

cd router/apps/pwnage

./ihasabucket

Re:TBF with a big bucket (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31183550)

No, its

router/apps/pwnage/ihasabucket

You do not need to run scripts from the current directory. This saves you two keystrokes ;-)

The real important question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31182754)

Can Microsoft be billed from the copyright holders for redirecting unsuspecting network users to "consume" someone else's intellectual property? Think of the artist's rights!

why didn't they release the utility for ipnat.sys? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31182778)

they had to write a utility to pull ip addresses from the NAT table, oddly enough the developer in India couldn't upload the fix because if *network problems*
they should of at least posted the binary to dump the contents from the ipnat.sys. it's probably some kind of RPC call.

wait (3, Funny)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 4 years ago | (#31182872)

"It was the most evil of evil Rick Roll scripts too -- worse than any that anyone has used to get me in the past."

correct me if i'm wrong, but rickrolling implies its just rick astley singing about how he won't let you down, right?

so what the heck is he referring to in the quote above? did they distribute 1080p video of ballmer in his underwear singing karaoke and throwing chairs?

speaking of which, a GIS for ballmer is not exactly flattering

http://images.google.com/images?q=ballmer [google.com]

who would have guessed a GOOGLE image search wouldn't be flattering to steve ballmer?

i wonder what a bing image search for ballmer would... jesus what am i doing, better stop now before i run into rule 34

Re:wait (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31183426)

They're about the same.

The bing search has a nice one of ballmer trying to eat a Yahoo! logo.

The real story (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31183554)

Apparently their implementation of RRAS was insufficient for the size of their conference and the internet circa 2009.

Corporate image (-1, Flamebait)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 4 years ago | (#31183770)

So basically they underestimated the bandwidth that would be required on the network access they provided, and therefore felt that gave them the right to interfere with communications on the network and actually trick the users into downloading unwanted content? Nice. Yes this helps the Microsoft image no end. No wonder they have this attitude that your computer belongs to them.

Give MS A Break (1)

bxwatso (1059160) | more than 4 years ago | (#31184114)

I know that it is impolitic to do anything but bash MS on this site, but come on, this was funny.

MS addressed a problem by combining clever sleuthing with some humor.

This tells me that MS is getting a pulse.

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