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How To Play HD Video On a Netbook

timothy posted more than 4 years ago | from the addressing-that-stuttering-problem dept.

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Barence writes with some news to interest those with netbooks running Windows: "Netbooks aren't famed for their high-definition video playing prowess, but if you've got about $10 and a few minutes going spare, there is a way to enjoy high-definition trailers and videos on your Atom-powered portable. You need three things: a copy of Media Player Classic Home Cinema, CoreCodec's CoreAVC codec, and some HD videos encoded in AVC or h.264 formats. This blog takes you through the process."

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And? (3, Informative)

psycho12345 (1134609) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194278)

Or I can just get an ION powered netbook, install Linux and use VDPAU, and play any HD without any issue. Why is this news?

Re:And? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31194324)

Or you could just use mplayer (http://www.mplayerhq.hu). Works on Linux and pretty much everything else.

Re:And? (4, Informative)

batkiwi (137781) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194614)

-VDPAU is a decoding library. MPlayer (and many other media programs) supports VDPAU.
-mplayer WITHOUT an external hardware accelerated decoding library will not be able to play 720p/1080p files on a netbook without severe stuttering (or possible complete failure).

Re:And? (1)

jedidiah (1196) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194450)

There are also laptop upgrade cards that you can get that work as external video decode cards (like the old days of 3D).

Given how truely pathetic an Atom CPU really is, I kind of doubt that even CoreAVC can let it play HD video.

Re:And? (0, Troll)

davester666 (731373) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195594)

just give up and get an iPad!

Re:And? (2, Informative)

DigitAl56K (805623) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194926)

If you're playing HD MKV files on Windows 7 just install DivX for Windows. It includes a media foundation component that lets Windows Media Player read the MKV file then decode it using DXVA. If you don't want to install the whole DivX bundle you can even get the component standalone from DivX Labs [divx.com] .

Re:And? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31195714)

This would work, for the rare stuff that is DXVA. Most HD stuff is h264/x264, though.

Re:And? (2, Insightful)

neorush (1103917) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195132)

That may not be easier http://xkcd.com/349/ [xkcd.com]

Re:And? (3, Interesting)

0100010001010011 (652467) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195492)

Crystal HD [xbmc.org] would also be a valid solution.

XBMC supports it. I'm not sure if mplayer itself does yet.

It turned my AppleTV into a 1080p beast. Just need a Mini-PCIe slot.

And if you're reading this and HAVEN'T heard of XBMC [xbmc.org] you're missing out on hands down the best HTPC front end ever made.

I've used it since '05 and on an original XBox and they've come a long way.

You will also need (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31194300)

An external HD monitor. If you've got an external HD monitor, you're no longer portable, like a netbook should be. Why not just get a complete desktop computer?

Re:You will also need (2, Interesting)

psycho12345 (1134609) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194360)

Well you could be a traveling businessman, have your work on a netbook, but be able to hook up to the conference room HD projector and show your HD Powerpoint (wonder if MS has made that pitch yet "PowerPoint IN HD!!!!). More likely an HD video preview of a product to customer?

Re:You will also need (2, Interesting)

ZosX (517789) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194564)

Sure or you could just be a cool dude who has some HD videos on his netbook who is visiting a friend who wants to watch a movie. You just happen to have the newest Spiderman on your drive and your netbook sports an hdmi out. You now have a tiny portable media server. How cool is that? I mean your netbook is now not just only for browsing the web. You can actually maybe use it to watch a movie, or several even if the ion's claims to battery life hold up. I mean they are shipping with like 160-320gb hard drives now. Might as well use the space up. Throw a ton of mp3s on it and take it to parties, with batteries that will go for hours. If someone does not at least see some novelty or usefulness in this, then they can just go back to their huge tower that they can't take anywhere. My computer (not a netbook, but a 14" acer) is always with me. There are a million reasons that portable can be highly utilitarian and the smaller the better.

Re:You will also need (4, Funny)

LoverOfJoy (820058) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194814)

You make some good points, but you've made one serious mistake. A "cool dude" would not have the lastest Spider-man movie on his drive.

Re:You will also need (1)

Again (1351325) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195046)

You make some good points, but you've made one serious mistake. A "cool dude" would not have the lastest Spider-man movie on his drive.

Finally! The day that I have been waiting for has arrived. I want some of that cool-dude advice that is going around.

Re:You will also need (1)

ZosX (517789) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195100)

Indeed. See. This is why I am not a cool dude. I don't have any friends either.

Re:You will also need (2, Insightful)

ZosX (517789) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195124)

Don't know why that popped into my head. I was thinking of newer movie franchises that sucked and that popped in first.

Re:You will also need (2, Interesting)

skine (1524819) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194874)

Actually, that's basically my process.

I save all of my DVDs as iso, move them to an external drive, then play them through my netbook (MSI U210) which has 720p HDMI output.

The image quality is definitely superior to my DVD player hooked up directly to the TV, and better yet, it doesn't force me to watch with a 4" black border if I want to see the subtitles.

Re:You will also need (2, Interesting)

ZosX (517789) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195164)

Nothing wrong with using a computer as a cheap but decent upscaler. Lately all I've been using is windows media center and media player for video. The quality is great with the right codecs. Don't know what's up with VLC these days, but it doesn't seem to do scaling very well, or at least the last time I tried. Media player works great though. I mean, all I need is a time bar and some buttons at the bottom when I move the mouse and that satisfies those needs and plays anything I have codecs for. :)

Re:You will also need (1)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195122)

Because the average person can tell between HD and SD on a projector? Its easy to tell between HD and SD on an HD set, or after watching a program in HD and then watching it in SD, but for something you have never seen before its really, really hard to tell between the two.

obligatory (1)

Kral_Blbec (1201285) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194312)

I have a Celeron 900 you insensitve clod!

Re:obligatory (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31194374)

I know you're making a joke, but I have a notebook with a Celeron 900 and integrated graphics, and it handles 1080p video just fine.

Re:obligatory (1)

newcastlejon (1483695) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194778)

I suggest you swap your CPU and graphics chip around then switch to a format that will fit on the screen on such an old piece of kit.

Re:obligatory (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31195092)

If you have low-bitrate 1080p videos, a celeron 900 *might* be able to handle it, but only with no deblocking and no deinterlacing (which reduces quality).

In actual experience, I've found ~8-12GB 1080p h.264 blu-ray rips to be a slide show on an atom N280, regardless of codec or settings. It just doesn't work.

How does this CoreAVC compare to K-lite? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31194320)

Shame the article doesn't do any actual comparisons between any two codecs. Nope, the TFA just has one codec, and so the sum of the article is "look, this codec plays videos!" Way to prove you're not just an advertisement.

Re:How does this CoreAVC compare to K-lite? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31194472)

How does it compare? This will cost you $10 dollars, or you can get the same functionality and more with K-Lite for free.

Re:How does this CoreAVC compare to K-lite? (4, Informative)

Barny (103770) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194538)

K-lite is just a codec pack, most of these use the standard ffmpeg for h.264, the multi threaded version of which is still "experimental", also coreavc not only is extremely optimised it also supports CUDA, so if you have an NV based netbook it will run much better with very little CPU usage.

I own a copy of coreavc for all my machines I expect to play h.264 on (3 copies), and was very happy to see haali splitter (along with coreavc) is now 64-bit, so full windows media centre support :)

It works, its cheap, I like paying programmers/companies who do a good job, it makes a nice precedent.

Re:How does this CoreAVC compare to K-lite? (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195210)

If you have nvidia graphics use mplayer, free and it supports VDPAU.

Skip this story (5, Informative)

syousef (465911) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194330)

It's no more than an ad for a codec.

Re:Skip this story (1)

newcastlejon (1483695) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194734)

I came here for the hilarious parody of a productive exchange of comments; I barely skimmed TFS!

I suspect I'm not alone in this, what what?

Re:Skip this story (1)

JThundley (631154) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195276)

I'm able to play HD video on my netbook, and it has a shitty VIA 1.2Ghz processor AND video card! Not to mention that it has a higher resolution than typical netbooks. Stupid story.

Re:Skip this story (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31195666)

It's no more than an ad for a codec.

Indeed. I was surprised to see this on slashdot.

DXVA (1)

electrosoccertux (874415) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194336)

going to need a netbook with a graphics chip that support DXVA 2.0

If you have a GMA950 you're SOL.

Re:DXVA (1)

Again (1351325) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195080)

If you have a GMA950 you're SOL.

So I read that as SQL. And since I happen to have a GMA950 my first thought was "Huh, I am not!" And then I realized that I should clean my glasses.

Linux... (1)

SECProto (790283) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194338)

So. How do I do this on Linux, which is the OS I actually use on my netbook?

Re:Linux... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31194412)

linux users can watch all their fag pr0n on vlc.

Re:Linux... (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194952)

Blood sacrifice.

Re:Linux... (2, Informative)

auntieNeo (1605623) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195440)

There's a project that lets you use CoreAVC on Linux [google.com] using mplayer and wine. I've used it to play 1080p on my slightly underpowered Opteron box. I'm not sure if it works for the latest versions of CoreAVC though.

VLC (5, Informative)

Alcoholic Synonymous (990318) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194350)

This works for Windows, Linux, and FreeBSD... Step 1. Install VLC. Step 2. Done. I use Hulu Desktop on my Aspire One under Ubuntu NBR, and there is no magic to it. How did this shit make the main page?

Re:VLC (2, Interesting)

batkiwi (137781) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194622)

VLC on an aspire one will play back 1080p video files without stuttering?

Re:VLC (4, Insightful)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194932)

Where can I buy a 10" 1080p netbook?

Re:VLC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31195118)

Umm... what if you have a 1080p video file? What are you supposed to do, transcode it before playing?

Re:VLC (1)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195240)

Most HD video I've found on the web is 720p, when you can find it. The number of people transcoding 1080p bluray movies in their native resolution to playback on their netbook is vanishingly small. In either case, if you knew it was going on your netbook, you'd download/transcode the 720p to begin with. If you do video editing for a living you're not going to own a netbook anyways.

Re:VLC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31195424)

They all support 1080p resolution. Most have VGA or HDMI output jack.

Re:VLC (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31195572)

two words: External display

Re:VLC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31195742)

If only they invented something to display the video externally. I wonder what they'd call it. Maybe something like, Display External. That has a ring to it, don't you think?

Re:VLC (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31195328)

This works for Windows, Linux, and FreeBSD...

Step 1. Install VLC.

Step 2. Done.

I use Hulu Desktop on my Aspire One under Ubuntu NBR, and there is no magic to it.

How did this shit make the main page?

I have personally experienced 1080p h264 videos not playing in VLC, but playing fine with MPC/CoreAVC. The performance advantage of the later is small, but it is there.

Re:VLC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31195656)

How did this shit make the main page?

His proper name is timothy. And he made the main page worthless, as usual.

bah humbug! (1)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194376)

I use a PS2 to watch 720p and 1080i video and it can do AC3. I can play from DVD or USB stick. I can buy those for, what $50 on eBay?

Re:bah humbug! (1)

keeboo (724305) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194922)

I use a PS2 to watch 720p and 1080i video and it can do AC3. I can play from DVD or USB stick. I can buy those for, what $50 on eBay?

Is the PS2 portable and viable as a generic computer?

Re:bah humbug! (1)

CronoCloud (590650) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195266)

I think he means a PS3. Portable...no, but a generic computer, yes...it can be:

[CronoCloud@midgar CronoCloud]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
cpu : MIPS
cpu model : R5900 V3.1
system type : EE PS2
BogoMIPS : 392.39
byteorder : little endian

Not going to be playing any HD video on it under Linux though.

It depends on the video (1)

PhrostyMcByte (589271) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194386)

Resolution is merely one factor, and is relatively unimportant compared to the others.

My netbook (Atom N280) can decode 720p, but the bitrate needs to be pretty low (think less than 4mbit -- which is fine for a lot of movies, but really bad for others). If CAVLC (as opposed to CABAC) is used I can get away with a little higher bitrate.

Re:It depends on the video (1)

Pretzalzz (577309) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195516)

lol, I wish I had your eyes. I can hardly notice anything wrong with the picture at 800kbps, nearly 1/5th what you seem to think is a minimum threshhold. And I am wearing contacts so my vision should be reasonably close to 20/20... Though I also can't tell the difference between hdtv and regular on a television. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if 30% of people with hdtvs can't tell the difference in a double blind test.

what, no cool hardware solution? (2, Interesting)

Lazy Jones (8403) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194408)

I expected some homebrew usb2.0 or somesuch gadget with a hardware decoder ... That would have been slashdot-worthy, but hey, it would have been old news [sammynetbook.com] ...

How for /. has fallen (4, Insightful)

tji (74570) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194430)

Come on.. an advertisement for a commercial codec to use in a Windows system / application?

How did this make it as a story?

I could maybe understand a story about doing this on an OSS system. But, that would not have been news because many of us have been doing that for years.

When the OSS Nvidia or Radeon driver gets full VDPAU support, that merits a front page story.

Re:How for /. has fallen (2, Informative)

jedidiah (1196) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194490)

You can use wine to shoehorn this API into Linux.

Although I still remain skeptical that CoreAVC can help an Atom that much. Perhaps they use Phoenix tails somewhere...

Re:How for /. has fallen (2, Interesting)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194754)

I could maybe understand a story about doing this on an OSS system.

You'll have to wait at least a decade. In the country where Slashdot is operated and hosted, a consortium of about two dozen companies conspires to keep H.264 decoding out of open source software. This consortium is called MPEG-LA.

Re:How for /. has fallen (1)

jedidiah (1196) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195522)

Yeah... that certainly explains my 2 HD-PVRs and the 6TB of h264 transcoded DVD's here.

Re:How for /. has fallen (1)

GigaplexNZ (1233886) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195562)

In the country where Slashdot is operated and hosted, a consortium of about two dozen companies conspires to keep H.264 decoding out of open source software.

And that consortium has failed. See x264.

**** HD Videos (1)

fm6 (162816) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194484)

They're a pain in the ass. Most of us don't have screens that can make them look any better (especially if those screens are on a netbook!) and don't care if we did. I prefer to convert my HD videos to a lower bitrate so they can display on a generic video adapter without any fancy software. Not always convenient, of course.

But this post is really an excuse to make a cute observation about netbooks: they seem to be marketed as less powerful than they are! This is mainly in the way netbooks are described to consumers ("if you want to watch videos, you probably want a more powerful machine"), but there are two technical features that seem to be designed to identify netbooks as underpowered.

The first feature is that the default config typically underclocks the CPU. OK, this makes the battery last longer, but not a lot longer. By accident or by design (I suspect it's by design) most users are going to attempt to play a Netflix stream on their netbooks, watch the video stutter hopelessly and say, "Oh well, they did tell me that the netbook is not a multimedia machine." Little knowing that a few power mode setting changes will fix the problem.

Maybe your dubious about this first feature being anything but a power-saving thing, but explain this: why do netbooks have really cruddy speakers? Even cheapo zero-legacy computers meant for office workers have decent speakers. Not great, but at least you can make out what somebody in a video is saying, which you can't on a typical netbook speaker. Those are tiny and have the volume of a cracked teaspoon.

My theory is that the manufacturers deliberately sabotage netbooks' video and audio so they won't be perceived as a cheaper alternative to laptops — those being what a lot of college students have instead of a TV set.

Re:**** HD Videos (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31194766)

Speak for yourself, dude. HD video looks gorgeous, 1080p particularly so. If you have a video card which supports DXVA, CPU load is about 5 percent on the slowest Pentium Dualcore you can buy. A $30 Nvidia 8400gs handles 1080p without a hitch, no commercial codec required. A 1920x1080 display with DVI is less than $200.

Re:**** HD Videos (1)

fm6 (162816) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195166)

If you have a video card which supports DXVA, CPU load is about 5 percent on the slowest Pentium Dualcore you can buy.

But that's just the problem. Such a GPU isn't in most portable computers. So if I want to watch something that's HD, I have to leave my armchair and go sit at my desk.

Re:**** HD Videos (1)

GigaplexNZ (1233886) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195578)

But that's just the problem. Such a GPU isn't in most portable computers. So if I want to watch something that's HD, I have to leave my armchair and go sit at my desk.

Or choose a portable computer that does actually have one. You said most don't have it, not all.

Re:**** HD Videos (1)

nxtw (866177) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195704)

Such a GPU isn't in most portable computers.

GPUs with hardware decoding are in most non-netbook systems nowadays. The Intel 4 series mobile chipsets have H.264 decoding, as do all recent ATI and nVidia GPUs.

Re:**** HD Videos (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194772)

why do netbooks have really cruddy speakers?

Because good speakers would make the case bigger.

Re:**** HD Videos (2, Interesting)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194884)

...and driving good speakers takes more power. I agree with fm6 that netbooks are undermarketted but the space factor and at least the illusion of long battery life are not compatible with a good speaker system.

Hell, today's artificially-loudened-during-mastering transient-loaded bass-heavy music like this* [youtube.com] would shred even laptop cones.

*Fun fact: early in the song, a "hot bowl of grits" is mentioned.

Re:**** HD Videos (1)

cryptoluddite (658517) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195540)

The first feature is that the default config typically underclocks the CPU. OK, this makes the battery last longer, but not a lot longer.

You're sort of right. Changing the cpu frequency on a netbook saves a small amount of power... a few percent. Lowering the core clock speed saves tons of power... for instance there's about 30% difference in idle power between the normal and low power modes using ASUS's utility to change the bus frequency. This corresponds to hours of battery life, and it's a big deal. Changing the cpu freq only saves minutes.

But getting linux to easily change the core clock speed is really difficult. There's no icon that's just sitting there in the tray that you just click on like in Windows. So lots of people using linux on their netbook don't understand that you can actually get a lot more battery life, and run a lot cooler.

Re:**** HD Videos (1)

nxtw (866177) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195664)

Most of us don't have screens that can make them look any better

Do you have a screen with more than 480/576 lines?

why do netbooks have really cruddy speakers?

Do you have headphones?

But I only have 1024x600 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31194500)

And connecting an external monitor defeats the point.

Broadcom chip (1)

icegreentea (974342) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194554)

There was kind of a big splash back in December about this Broadcom chip... Crystal HD or something. Basically, it's a $2 (or some other absurdly low price) video decoder chip that'll take pretty much the full load for decoding most common codecs in use today. It was certified by Intel as well. Wonder why we aren't seeing more netbooks out there being announced with this bugger. I mean, it'll cost next to nothing, and put plain-ass Atoms at par with Ion powered netbooks (well, for 90% of users who only needed/wanted Ion for the video to begin with).

Re:Broadcom chip (2, Informative)

batkiwi (137781) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194632)

They're about $40 for the mini-pci-express addin card, and the problem is you will lose wireless (easily fixable with a usb dongle though...).

XBMC has support, other programs are coming online quickly.

Re:Broadcom chip (1)

KillShill (877105) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195320)

That's what monopolists are for.

Excuse me, but... (1)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194588)

...any netbook with an ARM chip has hardware video acceleration, and can play HD video in fullscreen without problems.

Oh, you were talking about an Atom mini-laptop? That’s no a real netbook with that platform power profile, now is it? ;)

Re:Excuse me, but... (1)

Blakey Rat (99501) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194866)

What model is it? Where do I buy one?

Of course, since you pulled that out of your ass, you might have a little trouble answering. We all know such a machine does not exist.

Screen Resolution (1)

wisnoskij (1206448) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194608)

As long as the screen resolution is high enough view HD why would HD video take any time or money to get? and if you do not have a screen capable of it then it is going to be impossible.

Why HD video takes money (2, Insightful)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194838)

As long as the screen resolution is high enough view HD why would HD video take any time or money to get?

The video itself is copyrighted and DRM'd, and the most common codec used to store it is patented and compute-intensive.

Err... (2, Insightful)

rm999 (775449) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194618)

What good is 720p video on my 1024x600 monitor? Too bad they don't make 600p videos.

Re:Err... (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194796)

Too bad they don't make 600p videos.

In 50 Hz countries, they make 576p videos, which are close enough.

Re:Err... (1)

Shados (741919) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194808)

Not all netbooks have low res. There's a couple of 12 inch that have higher resolution, and some like the nokia booklet have 1280x720 on 10 inch.

Re:Err... (1)

Blakey Rat (99501) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194886)

When my iBook had a 12" screen, it was a laptop not a netbook.

Don't let the term slip like that... if it's 12", it's a freakin' laptop. Otherwise, the word "netbook" becomes even more meaningless than it already kind-of is.

Hell, next thing you know, my 13.1" tablet will be a "netbook", and then my 14.1" work laptop will be a "netbook"...

Slippage? What slippage? (3, Funny)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194924)

I'm buying a 17" netbook later this year.

The name just feels lighter!

Re:Err... (1)

Shados (741919) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194948)

Fine fine, still leaves the 10 inch 1280x720. I only know of one model, but its the one i have, so meh :)

Re:Err... (1)

Kitkoan (1719118) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194954)

Not all netbooks have low res. There's a couple of 12 inch that have higher resolution, and some like the nokia booklet have 1280x720 on 10 inch.

That still isn't going to play a 1080p video as mentioned in the article. 1080p needs a screen size of 1920x1080. If your going to go through this much effort to get the best picture would be better to just re-encode the video to your screens pixel size, would make it not stutter either.

Re:Err... (1)

Shados (741919) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195310)

Of course, but do note I was replying to a reference to 720p, not to the article.

Re:Err... (1)

Trogre (513942) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194940)

you might appreciate the ability to play back 720p content when your friend sends you his high-resolution videos and you don't want to wait a few hours while your netbook transcodes them down to 600p.

Honestly, do people not think about these things?

Re:Err... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31195060)

until someone comes up with a pure vector based codec, you'll have to accept the fact that most videos won't come in a 1:1 ratio with your display's res. I'd rather watdch 720p on a 1024x600 display than 480p.

Re:Err... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31195104)

720p just means it's 720/600 times cooler. Must buy now.

Re:Err... (1)

nxtw (866177) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195724)

What good is 720p video on my 1024x600 monitor?

You might be interested in learning about the VGA port [wikipedia.org] .

Which of you fucktard voted up Spam? (3, Insightful)

pecosdave (536896) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194714)

Seriously, this is looks like any of the rest of the spam, especially with the opening statement.

Get the right netbook (4, Informative)

Sheik Yerbouti (96423) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194798)

Just buy the right netbook the Asus 1201N plays High def video perfectly well because it has an Nvidia 9400M graphics processors with Cuda and hardware video decoding. It will even output 1080P via it's HDMI port. It also has a dual core Atom 330 running at 1.6 ghz. All together it's a hell of a gadget for the money.

Athlon Neo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31194820)

I will just use my Athlon Neo MV-40 powered 12.1" "netbook" instead. It can play all the Windows games too.

My first generation Wind plays HD fine (1)

Blakey Rat (99501) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194830)

My first-generation MSI Wind has no problems playing HD video when running Windows 7. I can even multitask to some extent.

What's the point of this story? Next are you going to post a summary of how to view webpages on a netbook? Or maybe some special $10 solution to connect your netbook to wifi?

What a waste of bits.

Ummm? (2, Insightful)

Anticrawl (1632013) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194894)

Or... you could download CCCP, and just use that. With a bit of tweaking and just the stock codecs supplied one can easily get a 720p/1080p video playing on a standard retail netbook. However with an uncompressed bluray rip or something of that nature I'd imagine you're out of luck, I've never tried myself. The ability to play HD video on a netbook is easily obtainable free if you are using the right file format/player and have the proper codecs. As I said though for the average person just download CCCP, it's a free cure-all for your media playing woes with few exceptions. I'm not sure why this is even posted here. Anyone buying a netbook at a retail store isn't getting anything above a 600p monitor and those of who take the time to shop online for a 1366x768 netbook are more than savvy enough to get it working, not to mention the typical Slashdot posters. Even then I can't imagine a Slashdotter buying netbooks this day and age what with similarly priced ultraportable laptops at the same size that are thinner, more powerful and feature 8-12 hours of battery life standard (Timeline series from Acer for example). I suppose some of us have kids and family members we'd buy netbooks for though. For a standard 600p netbook though why even bother with this? You want that 400i/p video you got off the internet or from your digital recorder to look nice? Use some nice upconversion software and play it like that to save resources. No way in hell you'll be able to run a real-time quality up-conversion player on a netbook though.

1. install codec. 2. watch movie 3. ??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31194900)

4. Why is this a story?

captcha: decoders

Why is this here... (1)

mariushm (1022195) | more than 4 years ago | (#31194990)

And actually MPC-HC is capable of decoding videos using the hardware h264 decoder the laptop probably already has built in. CoreAVC would just decode the video in software.

Re:Why is this here... (1)

nxtw (866177) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195734)

And actually MPC-HC is capable of decoding videos using the hardware h264 decoder the laptop probably already has built in.

Not Atom netbooks with Intel GPUs.

yuo fail Jit (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31195178)

for a l:iving got to the transmiision

AVC's Secret Sauce (5, Interesting)

evilviper (135110) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195250)

The secret to CoreAVC's speed is that it cheats... If you compare the frames output, with any other codec, you'll see that the results are not the same. People have commented on how CoreAVC looks different, sometimes "fuzzy". Again, it's going for lower-precision in exchange for speed. This is particularly galling in the case of H.264/AVC, since it has lossless modes, which are supposed to be bit-exact, not "close enough".

Honestly, if you want slightly faster + blurry video, why don't you just grab a lower-resolution copy of the same video, and save yourself the disk space, and money on the software license.

why not just use VLC (0, Redundant)

axor1337 (1278448) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195292)

it has h.264 support and is free

1080p on '08 MBP (1)

kromozone (817261) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195590)

I have a 2.2ghz Core2Duo MBP from Early '08 with 4GB of RAM that is incapable of playing back 1080p x264 without stuttering. I've tried everything - MPlayer, VLC, numerous Boxee release. I can get close to normal playback if there are absolutely no other applications running, but the CPU still maxes out and stutters during rapid-motion scenes. It seems there is absolutely no hardware acceleration available for the mac, unless you have a new MBP with a 9400m and are playing back in Quicktime. Even more frustrating, if I boot into Windows with BootCamp I can play back 1080p video flawlessly with no stuttering as the Windows side supports GPU acceleration. So much for the wonders of OpenCL in Snow Leopard.

How about a free option? (1)

TavisJohn (961472) | more than 4 years ago | (#31195628)

All you need are 2 things.

Download K-Lite Codec Pack:
http://www.codecguide.com/download_kl.htm [codecguide.com]
It includes Media Player Classic...

AND some HD videos in almost ANY codec.

Enjoy!

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This is nothing more than an advert for a $10 codec!

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