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Hollywood Treats Hackers Pretty Well

CmdrTaco posted more than 4 years ago | from the sandra-bullock-on-the-other-hand dept.

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angry tapir writes "According to Damian Gordon, a lecturer at the Dublin Institute of Technology, hackers are treated pretty well by movie-makers. Gordon studied 50 movies, produced over five decades, to help write an academic paper for the International Journal of Internet Technology and Secured Transactions. The results amazed him. In the movies, most hackers aren't teenaged whiz-kids. They're professionals, over 30 years old, who work in IT."

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That's right, bitches. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31274822)

I get first post.

Hollywood is going to treat me like an illegal immigrant!

Bollywood will steal my wallet while I'm not looking.

Yes, but (4, Funny)

colmore (56499) | more than 4 years ago | (#31274828)

Too bad scenes of someone typing furiously at a computer are boring as hell.

Re:Yes, but (4, Funny)

uberjack (1311219) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275098)

As are command prompts, apparently. I'm still searching for that elusive hacking app with fancy graphics and controls that's portrayed in all hacking movies.

Re:Yes, but (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31275352)

It's open source. Write it yourself.

Re:Yes, but (1)

rugatero (1292060) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275638)

I'm still searching for that elusive hacking app with fancy graphics and controls that's portrayed in all hacking movies.

We should get that woman from CSI to write one in VB.

Re:Yes, but (3, Informative)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275926)

To be fair, Trinity not only used the command prompt, but a real, actual security tool. However, the exeption does prove the rule, doesn't it?

The last Die Hard movie was unbelievable in every respect (just like the previous three) but it was a great homage to us nerds. In fact, the only characters in the movie who weren't nerds were McClain and his daughter (and possibly the assassins as well, but those characters weren't developed enough to tell).

It even had the middle-aged fat nerd in his mom's basement in his "command center"!
"How do we find his house?"
"Uh, it'll be the one with the lights on."

It had the extra-nerdy attraction of two of the main characters played by Tim Russ and Robert Beltran (Tuvok and Chakotay). If you have enough suspension of disbelief, it's an incredibly nerdy and entertaining movie. Just get the unrated version, the theatrical release was crap. "She's at the bottom of an elevator shaft with an SUV crammed up her ass". How they thought a Die Hard without "yippiekayay motherfucler" would be a box office hit was beyond me, but they fixed it in the unrated DVD.

Re:Yes, but (1)

HTH NE1 (675604) | more than 4 years ago | (#31276048)

You might be able to pass off an established botnet's command and control system as being decked out with Hollywood-friendly graphical control systems (even twinkling with their mundane activities being monitored) while also allowing for a realistic example of someone typing really fast for a few seconds and exerting immediate visible control. Even without going to massively split-screen mode, you could have some of zombified machines in the same room just to confirm his latest code works before it is unleashed upon the network.

A plot line could follow a kid starting with simple programming rapidly progressing in skills over time until as a young adult (or whatever target demographic you need, and female if you prefer) he has achieved his own phalanx of zombie computers to do his bidding against whatever Bigger Bad your story requires. Less backstory if you just need him to do it for someone else. Establishing the hacker has an established power base of a sufficiently large botnet may be enough to satisfy both techie and mainstream audiences alike.

Re:Yes, but (3, Funny)

The Archon V2.0 (782634) | more than 4 years ago | (#31276228)

As are command prompts, apparently. I'm still searching for that elusive hacking app with fancy graphics and controls that's portrayed in all hacking movies.

Hell, no. Have you seen the fonts on those things, they're HUGE! You get less characters per screen than a VIC-20. And you have to sit through 20 seconds of animations of lined globes and screen-filling blinking/pulsing OVERRIDE and SYSTEM MALFUNCTION and PASSWORD DENIED every freakin' time you do something. It's like the UI designer made it for an uninformed audience watching the action second-hand on a television set, not for the person using it!

Re:Yes, but (4, Interesting)

rsborg (111459) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275696)

Too bad scenes of someone typing furiously at a computer are boring as hell.

You know, I think movies like Wargames, Matrix (and to a smaller extent, Sneakers) did this pretty decently. For example, the scene where Neo is first contacted by Trinity [youtube.com] is a great example of how powerful text can be, if used properly.

Re:Yes, but (2, Interesting)

Rysc (136391) | more than 4 years ago | (#31276302)

In fact Sneakers is probably the best hacker movie to date. Wargames is certainly in the top five, too.

Re:Yes, but (1)

Moheeheeko (1682914) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275846)

thats why they added Anjolina Jolie's tits to Hackers

You call that well treated? (4, Insightful)

Rysc (136391) | more than 4 years ago | (#31274842)

The person's themselves may be realistic in terms of age and profession, but nothing else is well treated. Movies continue to routinely portray unrealistic and nonsensical computer interactions and capabilities, which is particularly harmful to a depiction of a hacker.

Re:You call that well treated? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31274890)

I'm not convinced that computer interactions any worse than they do many other things. Hell, most movie depictions of actors seem absurd, and you'd think that's one they could get.

Re:You call that well treated? (5, Insightful)

ShiningSomething (1097589) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275032)

It's the same phenomenon at play in journalism. The more you know about a topic, the more you realize they have no idea what they are talking about.

Re:You call that well treated? (1)

Rysc (136391) | more than 4 years ago | (#31276096)

This is true but I think the degree to which computers are portrayed unrealistically is much greater then for most things.

Cars in movies are generally depicted with four tires, a steering wheel, windows, a radio, etc.. People are familiar with them so mistakes in this area are not common. Computers, however, are rarely depicted accurately. In the last decade or so the physical device has gotten better--mostly, though why all people need three 20+ inch LCDs is beyond me--but what's on the screen has remained very bad. It's almost as if no one cares to even *try* to make computers realistic, unlike most other cases where they try but get some of the facts wrong.

Re:You call that well treated? (1)

Kell Bengal (711123) | more than 4 years ago | (#31276634)

I love the way they realistically represent the way even minor vehicular accidents invariably erupt in a huge fireball. Or show the way cars skid around any corner taken at speed. Or reproduce the ability of people to walk away from ferocious car wrecks with little more than a manly scratch on the forehead. I would be greatly disappointed if they had failed to accurately depict the well-known physical reality of cars in favour of dramatic story-telling.

Re:You call that well treated? (4, Insightful)

Manip (656104) | more than 4 years ago | (#31274932)

While hackers are often shown to have super-technical abilities that make no sense, so are the "good guys." I think to some degree it kind of counter-balances the whole thing.

Computers/technology isn't accurate in films but that is a small part of a much larger science rant in which all of the fields of science are abused for your viewing pleasure, biology, chemistry, engineering, and psychics.

Heck even psychology is abused in movies and that is borderline pseudoscience anyway....

Re:You call that well treated? (3, Funny)

camperdave (969942) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275282)

While hackers are often shown to have super-technical abilities that make no sense, so are the "good guys."

I'm confused. You say that hackers are shown to have super-technical abilities, but so are the good guys. That doesn't make any sense.

[Blink]
Wait... Are you trying to say that hackers are the bad guys?

Re:You call that well treated? (1)

Rary (566291) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275528)

Computers/technology isn't accurate in films but that is a small part of a much larger general rant in which all of the fields of anything are abused for your viewing pleasure.

The above modified statement is, in my opinion, much more accurate.

As a software developer/general nerd, I cringe whenever someone on screen starts talking about technology. As a private pilot, I cringe whenever someone on screen starts talking about aviation. I've watched movies with people from all kinds of professions who cringe when their particular area of expertise is represented on screen. And don't get me started on those painful scenes in which actors who obviously have never picked up a musical instrument in their life try to play the role of a musician.

On the aviation aspect, one of my personal favourites was a movie I saw years ago (can't remember what it was) in which someone is flying a single-engine Cessna, and occasionally "the bad guys" would call him on his cell phone, and he would shut off the engine when this happened because he didn't want them to know he was "coming for them". Every time he did this, the Cessna would nose down and start plummeting to the ground, just to add some suspense. Because, of course, an airplane couldn't possibly, you know, glide for a little while— especially not a Cessna, which is so prone to dropping like a rock without engine power.

Re:You call that well treated? (1)

BlaKnail (545030) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275778)

...all of the fields of science are abused for your viewing pleasure, biology, chemistry, engineering, and psychics.

John Edward [wikipedia.org] must be thrilled to know that he is a scientist now.

Re:You call that well treated? (5, Funny)

Em Emalb (452530) | more than 4 years ago | (#31274982)

I beg to differ, I'm pretty sure Hugh Jackman's character in Swordfish was treated pretty well...during some of the "hacking" scenes, anyway.

Re:You call that well treated? (1)

Talderas (1212466) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275408)

If by treated well you mean got his winky whacked. Sure.

Re:You call that well treated? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31275746)

Jackman typing on the Hydra in Swordfish reminds me of James Woods Comment in "The Specialist" As he fumbles with a bundle of TNT sticks. Who the hell is that suppose to fool?

Still waiting on my blowjob (3, Funny)

Chas (5144) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275840)

Seriously. I wanna know where you go for a job interview that tests you under pressure (excuse the pun) of a blowjob.

I'd apply in a heartbeat.

Several times.

A day!

Re:You call that well treated? (1)

0racle (667029) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275004)

Harmful to whom? Stop defining yourself based on what some script writer, who has no real idea what they're writing about, puts on the silver screen.

Movies are entertainment and what 'hackers' do, no matter what the definition of the word you feel like using, is really very boring to watch.

Re:You call that well treated? (0, Redundant)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275034)

You call that realistic? Realistic would be an obese mouth-breathing zit-encrusted neckbeard with eyeglasses taped together screaming "LOL I troll you!" while typing furiously into a sticky keyboard, piss-bottle at the ready, bound in a semen-crusted dragon shirt and yellow skid-marked briefs.

What's surprising is that Hollywood dosen't use the actual stereotype as described above. The truth would be more amusing than the fiction they've churned out thus far.

Re:You call that well treated? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31275714)

You need to get out more. We don't all look like you.

Re:You call that well treated? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31275776)

Have you ever watched Red Dwarf? Lister wasn't a computer geek as such, but you pretty much described his lifestyle. The show was very amusing.

Re:You call that well treated? (2, Interesting)

srussia (884021) | more than 4 years ago | (#31276376)

You call that realistic? Realistic would be an obese mouth-breathing zit-encrusted neckbeard with eyeglasses taped together screaming "LOL I troll you!" while typing furiously into a sticky keyboard, piss-bottle at the ready, bound in a semen-crusted dragon shirt and yellow skid-marked briefs. What's surprising is that Hollywood dosen't use the actual stereotype as described above. .

Jurassic Park

Dennis Nedry played by Wayne Knight (aka Newman on Seinfeld)

A cartoon image of Nedry appears on the screen and waves its little finger disapprovingly.

CARTOON NEDRY: "You didn't say the magic word!"

ARNOLD: Please, God damn it! I hate this hacker crap!

Close enough?

Re:You call that well treated? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31275402)

Whatever dude. It just means when I talk to people about what I do all day it leaves them amazed & jealous of my "minority report" style screen.

Re:You call that well treated? (2, Funny)

Bakkster (1529253) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275552)

What, you mean you've never hacked the Gibson!? Just because you're a bad hacker doesn't mean they should dumb down the hackers in movies for you.

Re:You call that well treated? (2, Informative)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275576)

I think even the "realistic" parts of the portrayal are accidental. I mean a white male of professional age in a setting with lots of computer equipment isn't exactly a stretch. It's probably the opposite: most hackers fit into the most boring stereotype known to man.

Re:You call that well treated? (1)

Skarecrow77 (1714214) | more than 4 years ago | (#31276220)

This is normal for Hollywood. Look at their depictions of firearms or automobiles.

Every 9mm pistol sounds like it's got a subwoofer hidden in the barrel, and can one-shot-one-kill anybody it's aimed at (as long as the hero is pulling the trigger).

Every ford focus and subaru station wagon can drift around corners in city traffic at 80mph, avoding cops and pedestrians alike, again as long as the protaganist is driving. (notice that the cops, who actually have presumably taken agressive driving courses, always run into garbage trucks)

Stupid (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31274854)

Why did this "study" get funding? Because it would make headlines.

Poor old Professor Knowsmath and his study of non-commutive ring structures in siberian oscillations. He'll have to make do with the money the university raised from raffling off that cat (4 euros).

News Flash! (2, Funny)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 4 years ago | (#31274864)

Hollywood takes creative license ... produces more entertaining product.

Nothing to see here. Move along ...

Re:News Flash! (2, Insightful)

Ltap (1572175) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275030)

No. It provides a more entertaining product... for stupid people. Anyone who has any knowledge of the subject matter or is intelligent enough to note the inconsistencies will be put off by it and dislike the writers for it.

Re:News Flash! (4, Insightful)

0racle (667029) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275102)

If they had to stick with real depictions of, well in this case hackers, every movie about it would look like Office Space and Dilbert. We've seen those so apparently no other movie about or related to the subject can ever be made.

Most people in any profession, if they can't let go of their insistence on reality, dislike or down right hate movie portrayals of what they do.

Re:News Flash! (3, Funny)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275230)

IMost people in any profession, if they can't let go of their insistence on reality, dislike or down right hate movie portrayals of what they do.

I'm waiting for the movie about 'Slashdot Karma Whores'. I'm positive I won't like the way those guys are portrayed. Stupid writers.

Re:News Flash! (2, Informative)

Sir_Lewk (967686) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275244)

I don't think this is true at all. Movies like Wargames manage to be decently realistic (at least not offensively unrealistic) and not boring at all. Best part of that movie is when he has to spend time researching his target.

Re:News Flash! (1)

Jurily (900488) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275980)

We've seen those so apparently no other movie about or related to the subject can ever be made.

That might be because someone sitting and thinking is not inherently fun to watch. Make a movie about your day at work and let me know how well it sells.

Re:News Flash! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31276224)

If they had to stick with real depictions of, well in this case hackers, every movie about it would look like Office Space and Dilbert.

Exactly.

If reality was as exciting as film, we'd have no need for film.

Filmmakers who focus too much on realism have day jobs in restaurants.

Re:News Flash! (1)

Skarecrow77 (1714214) | more than 4 years ago | (#31276360)

If they had to stick with real depictions of, well in this case hackers, every movie about it would look like Office Space and Dilbert.

Even Office Space had such ammusing "we don't know what we're talking about" moments as Peter shutting down his Mac to find it sitting at a C:/> prompt. Either that, or somebody spent a lot of time building the most elaborate windows 95 UI shell ever.

I will say though, that by having the fate of the main characters depend on code that had an off-by-one-

Re:News Flash! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31275358)

>> Anyone who has any knowledge of the subject matter...will be put off by it...

Name a favorite movie and there's somebody out there complaining that dinosaur genes wouldn't survive in amber, or Indy's plane would have had to refuel more often, or clownfish can't really talk.

Re:News Flash! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31275906)

no, that's a personal opinion. These same people are the ones that annoy those around them by constantly correcting them, or in games are known as rules lawyers.. They always have to be right. That doesn't mean they're smart or dumb, it usually means something else..

Re:News Flash! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31276462)

No, only stupid arrogant cocksuckers like yourself.

Really? (2, Interesting)

Ltap (1572175) | more than 4 years ago | (#31274884)

While the age of hackers in movies seems to have increased lately (Die Hard 4, the most braindead one yet when you ignore television shows them as paranoid 20-somethings), they aren't shown as particularly mature.

Re:Really? (1)

Agent__Smith (168715) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275012)

While the age of hackers in movies seems to have increased lately (Die Hard 4, the most braindead one yet when you ignore television shows them as paranoid 20-somethings), they aren't shown as particularly mature.

Yea, it's unusual for Hollywood to stick so close to the truth... lol

Re:Really? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31275062)

Keep in mind that he's using a broad definition of hacker. Captain Kirk in Wrath of Khan qualifies for hacking into the Reliant and lowering Khan's shields.

Re:Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31275256)

Turn in your geek card, Spock was the one who actually did that.

Re:Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31275316)

That's what I thought, but if you actually go back, it's Kirk that does it. I doubt he could've done it without Spock, but it was Kirk.

Re:Really? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31275506)

It was Kirk's idea.

                                                KIRK

                Clear the bridge.

                                SPOCK

                Well, at least we know he doesn't

                have Genesis.

                                KIRK

                Just keep nodding as though I'm

                still giving orders. Mister Saavik,

                punch up the data charts of Reliant's

                command console.

                                SAAVIK

                Reliant's command...

                                KIRK

                HURRY.

                                KHAN

                Forty-five seconds!

                                SPOCK

                The prefix code?

                                KIRK

                It's all we've got.

Re:Really? (1)

Nukenbar (215420) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275310)

I would argue Independence Day still has the most absurd hack of all time.

From the article: "A Mac hacking into an alien operating system and loading a virus. That's Steve Jobs' dream: The power of the Mac"

Re:Really? (1)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275942)

I would argue Independence Day still has the most absurd hack of all time.

I concur. Like any alien race would be using anything less than a 256 bit instruction set architecture. When's Apple gonna come out with one of those, huh? I thought so. I'm still waiting for a 256 bit FSB!

Re:Really? (1)

flappinbooger (574405) | more than 4 years ago | (#31276034)

Hey, now, they could have figured out the nature of the alien technology and figured out how the systems worked and figured out flaws and weaknesses in the ships systems and then figured out how to implement a virus to disrupt those systems and figured out how to make the mac interface with the ship.

He had plenty of time! Maybe he did it when he was drunk.

Or, maybe he downloaded a trojan toolkit from the interwebs. Probably found it on limewire, that's where all the other viruses are!

Re:Really? (1)

zach_the_lizard (1317619) | more than 4 years ago | (#31276410)

Nah, the aliens were using Limewire, and that is the vulnerability. Any race that uses that aboard a mothership is not as advanced as we think. They had to get their alien porn fix, you know, and that opens up all kinds of opportunities.

Re:Really? (1)

chronosan (1109639) | more than 4 years ago | (#31276454)

The aliens in ID4 weren't exactly social animals, devouring worlds and such. Maybe they developed all that technology because they didn't have social conventions that would merit them taking time to bother worrying about network security. If so, someone with a rudimentary understanding of their systems could hijack their systems? Then again, they did 'hack' the satellites... myExplanation--;

Re:Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31276516)

Better, thhey downloaded it using the alien ship at area51 accidentally while looking for sleezy alien tentacle porn.

"No Really! We were conducting 'Valuable Cultural Research! We didn't mean to download that virus!"

The rest is what made it past the editors.

Re:Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31275312)

Because everyone knows how Slashdot only has mature reasonable discussion on it.

Re:Really? (1)

CherniyVolk (513591) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275440)

Maturity in IT really means that you're at the point where you finally realize, 'there really is no magic'.

Re:Really? (1)

DigitalPasture (1545473) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275810)

Perhaps not for those of us actually working in IT. I know I routinely do things that are simple for me and I amaze those on my sales team and the management with my "technowizardry". For instance, being able to set up a mobile hotspot using my cell phone and netbook out in the middle of nowhere. Things like that seem like magic to the uninitiated. I guess I don't really help out with stopping the stereotype though. I often answer with "FM Principal" (F*cking Magic) when I fix something and don't know what exactly the fix was (or if the person asking will not understand the explanation). I've been using the phrase FM principal for about 15 years and I have yet to be questioned on what it actually means. As for the portrayal of hackers in general in movies.... Get over it, it's fiction. Try and suspend your disbelief for just a few moments and you might actually enjoy that movie.

And my company? (1)

msantosn (1555417) | more than 4 years ago | (#31274898)

Damn....

If I could be treated "just well" in the company I work for... =/

I should move to Hollywood then...

Hollywood isn't reality - we want it that way (1)

LockeOnLogic (723968) | more than 4 years ago | (#31274994)

Who would you rather watch on screen? A pudgy thirtysomething typing code in a dark room or a bunch of really attractive young people?

Hollywood figured this out a long time ago. If we are going to stare at a screen for two hours we want eye candy.

Obligatory (4, Funny)

srussia (884021) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275110)

If we are going to stare at a screen for two hours we want eye candy.

I don't even see the code. All I see is blonde, brunette, red-head...

Re:Obligatory (3, Funny)

FrostedWheat (172733) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275412)

Hmm.. I must be looking at the wrong Perl program, all I saw was a big beardie guy.

Re:Obligatory (5, Funny)

Sechr Nibw (1278786) | more than 4 years ago | (#31276012)

No, you need to get one of those matte finish monitors, the anti-glare. You're just seeing your reflection in the monitor. It's been awhile since you showered and shaved, so you probably don't recognize him.

Anonymous Hero (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31275048)

I like the ad on the left more than the article itself. Amazed to see a human connected chat advertisement integrated to publicize the company

LA (1)

c0d3r (156687) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275066)

Either there are too many hackers or almost none in LA (I think almost none). It is pretty scarce to find free internet or even reliable internet in this town, or even anyone who know what their talking about unless they are holding up a company. Then again, I'm from the SV.

"Teenaged whiz-kids" (1)

dsavi (1540343) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275084)

Welcome back to the mid-90s. Do these teenaged whiz-kids do their personal computer hacking on-line? They probably use the World Wide Web too, from Mosaic or something, surfing through cyberspace. Now I feel like washing out my mouth.

Re:"Teenaged whiz-kids" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31275686)

and it has a PCI bus. But you knew that

Re:"Teenaged whiz-kids" (1)

The Archon V2.0 (782634) | more than 4 years ago | (#31276618)

Welcome back to the mid-90s. Do these teenaged whiz-kids do their personal computer hacking on-line?

No, dude, they use.... TERMINAL ENTRY [wikipedia.org] . Hackers AND terrorists! It's two great tastes that taste like Z-movie together!

(For the truly bored, a semi-dramatic reading of box blurb available here [loadingreadyrun.com] , 4:20ish-5:20ish, after annoying commercial message.)

Oh really? (1)

PolyDwarf (156355) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275212)

I'm hacking the Gibson. Your argument is invalid.

50 years? (2, Informative)

Nukenbar (215420) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275240)

Who had hacker movies in 1960? Can anyone name a hacker movie off the top of his head before War Games?

Re:50 years? (1)

H0p313ss (811249) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275438)

Who had hacker movies in 1960? Can anyone name a hacker movie off the top of his head before War Games?

This was well explained in the article.... kids these days...

Re:50 years? (1)

doug (926) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275680)

1960s movies aren't my thing. Tron was the only pre-War Games movie that I thought of. You should RTFA because we have all seen 4 of the 6 listed before War Games.

- doug

Re:50 years? (1)

mikestew (1483105) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275706)

It's three links deep and an Excel spreadsheet, so one can be excused for not RTFA: Hot MIllions (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063094/).

Re:50 years? (1)

mikestew (1483105) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275756)

But the question was "in 1960", and that movie was made in 1968. So PC World got it wrong, it's only over the last 40 years (first in 1968, last was 2008).

Re:50 years? (1)

baegucb (18706) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275724)

Tron might qualify as being before War Games. It came out in 1982.

Sneakers (5, Insightful)

jgtg32a (1173373) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275254)

Sneakers is the best hacking movie ever.

Re:Sneakers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31275374)

Oh yeah. I often wish they'd make a special edition DVD of that with commentaries and such. I suppose it's one of those things I'll never see but if we could.

Wonder who their geek consultant was on that film?

Re:Sneakers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31275532)

cattle mutilations are up!

Re:Sneakers (4, Insightful)

evilviper (135110) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275614)

Sneakers is the best hacking movie ever.

"War Games"

Serious subject.
Culturally significant.
Perhaps the most realistic "hacking" in Hollywood history.
All tech involved was just a small step removed from the real thing.
Dated today, but holds up very well.

Re:Sneakers (1)

zach_the_lizard (1317619) | more than 4 years ago | (#31276466)

One of my CS intro classes made us watch this movie, and though it was dated by decades, it was still enjoyable.

Re:Sneakers (1)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | more than 4 years ago | (#31276470)

All tech involved was just a small step removed from the real thing.

Except it also has the most overused and silly computer-related tropes ever in it : the logicbomb [tvtropes.org] .

Re:Sneakers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31275752)

It sounded like a cocktail party.

Search burbling, no cursors, huge fonts (0, Offtopic)

uberchicken (121048) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275364)

I try to allow for artistic license, but real computers DON'T MAKE CUTE R2D2 NOISES WHEN THEY'RE SEARCHING!

Grrrr..

Not strictly on-topic, but that felt good for me.

Re:Search burbling, no cursors, huge fonts (1)

droopycom (470921) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275512)

Off course they do!!!

$ apt-get install r2d2

Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31275416)

...They obviously did not see Swordfish or Hackers as they would understand what REAL hackers are. Those films contain the most accurate representation of them I've ever seen.

Re:Huh? (1)

Shimbo (100005) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275648)

...They obviously did not see Swordfish or Hackers as they would understand what REAL hackers are.

And you obviously didn't see the list of films. [comp.dit.ie] they studied.

UNIX (3, Funny)

CAIMLAS (41445) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275624)

The only instance of 'movie hackers' which spring to mind is:

"It's a UNIX system! I know this! "

Re:UNIX (1)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275978)

The worst thing is "Jurassic Parc" is on his list but he counted Nedry (the fat nerd who locked out the system) but not the little girl in that infamous 'I know UNIX' scene. Pretty bogus.

DUH! (1)

ArhcAngel (247594) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275844)

If your a movie studio and you believe there is a worldwide consortium of hackers [wikipedia.org] that can call on each other to attack a specific target you are going to tread VERY lightly in poking fun at said group.

How about Racism in Hacking films? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31275854)

Name one, I mean ONE Asian male in a "hacking" film.

This is one of the largest demographics in the computer industry (if not THE largest), and I can't name a single one in any of these films. Interestingly enough, there are plenty of African American programmers in Hollywood (which is much smaller demographic in the real world). The Matrix trilogy springs to mind as the most offensive in this regard.

Live Free or Die Hard has not one, but TWO Asian **female** hackers, but no male ones to speak of.

As an Asian male, I don't find Hollywood's treatment of hackers to be very positive at all.

Re:How about Racism in Hacking films? (1)

ThatMegathronDude (1189203) | more than 4 years ago | (#31276004)

Did you notice the pattern of Hollywood rarely portraying reality?

Re:How about Racism in Hacking films? (1)

mdarksbane (587589) | more than 4 years ago | (#31276554)

Probably depends on where you live. I'm not sure the tech company I work for has a single asian man working for us, nor did my last one. A few Indians, African-Americans, all nature of white guys.

I knew plenty of asian programmers in college, but they weren't the majority by any means.

This is in Columbus, Ohio, though, where pretty much the only asians who grew up here have parents working at the Honda plant.

Wonder if the movie studios are trying to shy away from the more obvious stereotypes.

HPAV Crowd Then and Now (1)

kenp2002 (545495) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275890)

Time wise, if we assume Hollywood lags about 10 years behind the times then they are accurate suprisingly. Back in the days when ACiD, TRiBES and iCE were waging a holy war of ANSI art packs across the BBS era and when USENET was full of useful information rather then spam and people still cared about blue boxes the scene was largely '))>>{

P.S. Anyone know where I can find the old ANSI animation "The Slug"?

Hackers as hot as Angelina Jolie w/ short hair (1)

axl917 (1542205) | more than 4 years ago | (#31275896)

is a fiction I can certainly live with.

HACK THE PLANET! (1, Offtopic)

kaizokuace (1082079) | more than 4 years ago | (#31276076)

HACK THE PLANET!

They got a few things wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31276086)

They got the Doritos and Red Bull wrong, wait a minute. Never mind.

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