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Obama Backs MPAA, RIAA, and ACTA

timothy posted more than 4 years ago | from the four-letter-acronyms dept.

Government 703

boarder8925 writes "In a move sure to surprise no one, Obama has come out on the side of the MPAA/RIAA and has backed the ACTA: 'We're going to aggressively protect our intellectual property,' Obama said in his speech, 'Our single greatest asset is the innovation and the ingenuity and creativity of the American people [...] It is essential to our prosperity and it will only become more so in this century. But it's only a competitive advantage if our companies know that someone else can't just steal that idea and duplicate it with cheaper inputs and labor.'"

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Nigger. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474482)


Re:Nigger. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474490)

I dropped an Obama in my pants.

LOL (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474526)

You're supposed to drop you obama in the toilet, retard.

Re:LOL (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474630)

The late, great Frank Zappa had something to say about president Obama:

A foolish young man of the Negro Persuasion
Devoted his life to become a Caucasian
He stopped eating pork, he stopped eating greens
He traded his dashiki for some Jordache Jeans
He learned to play golf, and he got a good score
Now he says to himself,
"I ain't no NIGGER no more."

American people: "I don't understand you, would you please speak more clearly..."
Barack Hussein Obama: "Mer-ce-deeez BEENNNNNNNNNZ!" [imageshack.us]

First rebellion (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474484)

We're going to aggressively protect our intellectual property,' Obama said in his speech, 'Our single greatest asset is the innovation and the ingenuity and creativity of the American people [...] It is essential to our prosperity and it will only become more so in this century.

Which is true. I've been saying over and over again that as our ecomomy's manufacturing sector withers and more and more corporations offshore their labor, our creative content will be the only thing that's left of our economy besides flipping burgers. America will become nothing but vacation property for rich Arabs and Chinamen. Our leaders are selling us out one-by-one. No jobs for engineers? Work for Best Buy or move to China and be paid 3 cents a day.

It's time for armed rebellion. We must storm the capital, while the military is stretched thin, and execute the majority of our legislators.

Re:First rebellion (5, Insightful)

mellon (7048) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474594)

The fact that this got rated "Insightful" is a woeful commentary on the state of rational debate and analysis in the geek world. I thought we were supposed, as a group, to be smart. Apparently not.

In fact, manufacturing in the U.S. is doing very well. Productivity is at an all-time high, and the amount we are producing has not been in decline, as is commonly believed. Of course production is down right now because we're in a recession, but as a percentage of our economy, manufacturing production is pretty stable. What's down is manufacturing jobs, and that's because productivity is up. The better you are at doing something, the less work you have to do to do it.

In a perfect world, more production per unit of labor would mean that we would all have to work less to achieve the same level of prosperity. Unfortunately, that's not the case in the U.S. because our current intellectual property laws allow a relatively few people to take the lion's share of the benefit from the production being done. Rather than this new-found prosperity being spread across the whole population, it reaches only a relatively few peoples' pockets, and of course those people get quite rich.

So in fact draconian intellectual property laws are antithetical to prosperity. Obama's thesis here isn't just irrelevant to the average worker's prosperity. It's antithetical to the average worker's prosperity.

Re:First rebellion (1, Insightful)

sonicmerlin (1505111) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474794)

Well said. It's a shame that the majority of critics on this board won't even bother to read your post before vomiting up their point of views.

Re:First rebellion (5, Insightful)

ffreeloader (1105115) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474846)

Ummm.... I see you ignore the fact that major portions of our manufacturing capability have been moved offshore. When was the last time you bought a TV made in the US? When was the last time you bought a major household appliance that was manufactured entirely in the US? How about a car? How long has it been since the majority of steel used in the US was made here?

Re:First rebellion (1)

JockTroll (996521) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474600)

Start by executing the corporate overlords who have bought your legislators. They can't buy their way out of the grave.

Re:First rebellion (1, Insightful)

binarylarry (1338699) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474606)

See this is were bloody revolutions fail.

Because either A) you're going to elect another batch of morons whom to execute at a later date or B) you're going to have a dictator (military general, etc) show up to fill the void or worse (a foreign entity).

Fail in either case.

Re:First rebellion (1)

dgatwood (11270) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474880)

You might get lucky and end up with a benevolent dictator. It has happened at least a couple of times in the history of humanity....

Re:First rebellion (5, Funny)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474764)

It's time for armed rebellion.

You mean, we should start to stock ARM netbooks?

Re:First rebellion (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474826)

Yes, and then let's build an army of Androids to bring the current leaders to the RIM of despair. iPad myself on the shoulder for that one.

We should all copyright... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474488)

... our jobs!

Afro-American Racism Against Whites and Asians (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474582)

During the election, about 95% of African-Americans voted for Barack Hussein Obama due solely to the color of his skin. See the exit-polling data [cnn.com] by CNN.

Note the voting pattern of Hispanics, Asian-Americans, etc. These non-Black minorities serve as a measurement of African-American racism against Whites (and other non-Black folks). Neither Barack Hussein Obama nor John McCain is Hispanic or Asian. So, Hispanics and Asian-Americans used only non-racial criteria in selecting a candidate and, hence, serve as the reference by which we detect a racist voting pattern. Only about 65% of Hispanics and Asian-Americans supported Obama. In other words, a maximum of 65% support by any ethnic or racial group for either McCain or Obama is not racist and, hence, is acceptable. (A maximum of 65% for McCain is okay. So, European-American support at 55% for McCain is well below this threshold and, hence, is not racist.)

If African-Americans were not racist, then at most 65% of them would have supported Obama. At that level of support, McCain would have won the presidential race.

At this point, African-American supremacists (and apologists) claim that African-Americans voted for Obama because he (1) is a member of the Democratic party and (2) supports its ideals. That claim is an outright lie. Look at the exit-polling data [cnn.com] for the Democratic primaries. Consider the case of North Carolina. Again, about 95% of African-Americans voted for him and against Hillary Clinton. Both Clinton and Obama are Democrats, and their official political positions on the campaign trail were nearly identical. Yet, 95% of African-Americans voted for Obama and against Hillary Clinton. Why? African-Americans supported Obama due solely to the color of his skin.

Here is the bottom line. Barack Hussein Obama does not represent mainstream America. He won the election due to the racist voting pattern exhibited by African-Americans.

African-Americans have established that expressing "racial pride" by voting on the basis of skin color is 100% acceptable. Neither the "Wall Street Journal" nor the "New York Times" complained about this racist behavior. Therefore, in future elections, please feel free to express your racial pride by voting on the basis of skin color. Feel free to vote for the non-Black candidates and against the Black candidates if you are not African-American. You need not defend your actions in any way. Voting on the basis of skin color is quite acceptable by today's moral standard.

Re:We should all copyright... (4, Interesting)

wisnoskij (1206448) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474798)

Actually assuming you have a particular way you go about accomplishing your job, it might actually be patentable.

I remember not long ago some company was trying to patent how they ran their business, something to do with how to schedule and conduct the business meetings I believe.

Re:We should all copyright... (5, Funny)

mickwd (196449) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474824)

.....and speeches.

What he wanted to say was: "Our single greatest asset is the innovation of the American people.....innovation and ingenuity.....ingenuity and innovation. Our TWO greatest assets are the innovation and the ingenuity of the American people.....and their creativity.....our THREE greatest assets are the innovation and the ingenuity and creativity of the American people.....and an almost fanatical devotion to Hollywood and the RIAA.....our FOUR.....NO.....AMONGST our assets are such elements as innovation, ingenuity and creativity.....I'll come in again...

NOBODY expects the ACTA imposition.

Wild West Internet will be gone (-1, Troll)

sopssa (1498795) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474496)

Does it really surprise anyone? Internet has only been in its early development and in its baby years, now it's starting to form more like everything else in the world before has. Wild West too. Of course the rampant piracy will end too.

Re:Wild West Internet will be gone (3, Insightful)

Shadow of Eternity (795165) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474520)

"Rampant" piracy? I suppose that's why they've pulled not just record profits pretty much every year but also almost always had a record breaking increase over the previous year's record breaking profits as well.

Their piracy figures, when they aren't just plain made up, are them saying "We expected this much of an increase over last year's profits and we actually got this slightly lower amount so since we didn't overshoot our initial prediction by 500% that 500% must have been lost due to piracy."

Re:Wild West Internet will be gone (3, Insightful)

Anarki2004 (1652007) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474698)

I find the Citation Needed Police annoying at times, but can you substantiate that claim?

do your own work (0)

unity100 (970058) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474770)

it was substantiated repeated times in the past, and slashdot ran stories on them. if you search it, you can find. latest was a research from netherlands that showed the pirates bought much more cds than anyone else, ironically.

Re:Wild West Internet will be gone (2, Insightful)

im_thatoneguy (819432) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474730)

I think we have to be careful though with separating unjust prosecution of piracy and piracy itself.

Obama is exactly right. IP is going to be the foundation of any future economy. There needs to be a means by which efforts of the mind are as recognized legally as efforts of the body.

We're becoming a nation where digging ditches and assembling parts is going to be taken over more and more by automation and cheap overseas labor and it'll be up to our inventions and our software and our innovation in exporting ideas that continues to pay our bills and put roofs over our heads going forward.

While the RIAA and the MPAA might RIGHT NOW control intellectual property and be the face of IP in the future it's going to be the individual creators who no longer need a large corporate overlord who are going to need the same protections. So we need to be careful that an inventor in Iowa can fight off the mega corporation trying to simply steal his idea and profit off of his innovation without giving him any reward.

The RIAA's laws protect the indie artist FROM the RIAA more so than it protects the RIAA itself. If there were toothless IP laws then Universal Music could just start burning copies of some new popular band and not send them a penny. They have the market and the distribution power. They would overnight become the main source of some new indie band's music without offering any creativity of their own.

You weaken IP and it's not the large corporations that will lose money it's the little guys who will get screwed by the large distributors who have all the money and resources.

Re:Wild West Internet will be gone (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474570)

No, you're wrong.

It could have been worse... (4, Funny)

Third Position (1725934) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474500)

...at least he's not a Republican!

Re:It could have been worse... (5, Insightful)

armanox (826486) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474514)

I fail to see how Democrats and Republicans differ on the matter. Both support large government at the expense of your rights.

Re:It could have been worse... (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474680)

You also fail to spot an obvious joke, while spouting libertarian talking points at the same time. Both are symptoms of Asperger's Syndrome.

Re:It could have been worse... (0)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474898)

I don't have the right to mass reproduce Iron Man 2 and sell them for 5 bucks a pop in the middle of Shanghai.

I get this feeling we're all getting our panties in a bunch over nothing.

Re:It could have been worse... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474534)

Yes because the republican party is sooo much better. Also your sig... sieg heil Germany

Re:It could have been worse... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474546)

...at least he's not a Republican!

Nicely put. But this forum is overrun by one of the most disgusting forms of near-sentient fecal matter (right-wing trolls), so we can expect a quick rise to the basement.

Re:It could have been worse... (2, Insightful)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474856)

I know that you are joking, but in all seriousness, that is how a lot of people seem to have viewed Obama -- not on the actual issues, or the sort of people surrounding him (Biden...) or their views, but just on his party affiliation and skin color. It is a sad day for democracy when voters stop caring about the issues; it seems that day has already come to pass, and all we can hope for is a great awakening (but I won't hold my breath).

Not Trolling ... (4, Insightful)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474512)

... I'm just asking:

What would we expect from any President? Pick anyone from the last batch, or even the next batch, of candidates. Do you think any one of them wouldn't back big business in this situation?

Re:Not Trolling ... (1)

justinjstark (1645867) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474602)

I would have much more faith in a third party member or somebody like Kucinich. And as much as I dislike some of Ron Paul's religiously motivated politics, you can't tell me that he would even think about supporting ACTA.

Re:Not Trolling ... (1)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474694)

Fair enough - both of them probably would have fought for the American consumer. It's a shame that only two could realistically be suggested to defend the citizens over the corporations. And these two candidates are outliers on our political landscape.

Re:Not Trolling ... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474604)

Stop being reasonable. The right-wing mouth-breathers are out to subvert democracy, suppress free speech, prevent progress and impugn Obama wherever possible. That includes this forum.

Re:Not Trolling ... (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474744)

Only liberals are allowed to complain about their leaders, is that right? Remember just a couple of short years ago when the liberal talking point was that dissent was the highest form of patriotism? I do. Grow the fuck up, you fucking douchebag.

Re:Not Trolling ... (1, Flamebait)

sonicmerlin (1505111) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474832)

Dissent IS a form of patriotism. But misinformed fear-mongering, blatantly FUD-spreading speculation, and purposeful yet meaningless obstruction is NOT.

"Single greatest" = "sole remaining" amirite? (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474522)

Next up: The Texas schoolboard mandates that textbooks 'de-emphasise' the RECORDED HISTORICAL FACT that Hollywood was founded on industrialised copyright infringement.

Re:"Single greatest" = "sole remaining" amirite? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474674)

Considering both Hollywood and the government are run by a bunch of jews, what did you expect?

I said it before (0, Redundant)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474532)

National Security folks. National Security. Gotta keep that GDP up for increased tax revenue. At least, so they think.

Fuck you Obama. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474544)

You son of a bitch. I can't believe I voted for you. You asshole.

Re:Fuck you Obama. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474854)

I can't believe anyone who can read and who isn't black with a victim-hood mentality would vote for Obama to run so much as a lemonade stand. What part of his past did you miss out on? His radical leftist associations, his shady real-estate dealings with convicted felon and slumlord Tony Rezko, or his bemoaning of the Constitution as a document of negative liberties?

Coffee party (-1, Troll)

Billly Gates (198444) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474564)

I am sick and tired of my country being run by special interests whether its the financial industry, tobacco, health care, or the media. Whats worse these special interest groups that run the US now run the world through sleazy treatries that make our corrupt laws, world laws.

Do something about it and join the Coffee Party [coffeepartyusa.com]? I know this sounds kind of korny but 150,000 just joined it in the last 72 hours and the numbers already rival the tea party. Together we can influence primaries to have candidates who represent us and not hte special interest. Or join the tea party if you are conservative but I feel they are being taken over by special interests already and are more afraid of government than special interests.

Re:Coffee party (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474704)

Don't forget about the oil industry, pharmaceutical, the military-industrial-complex or religious groups.

Re:Coffee party (1)

istartedi (132515) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474762)

And labor unions, and trial lawyers. There will be no true progress until a movement emerges that gores the oxen of both major parties.

Re:Coffee party (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474758)

Or join the tea party if you are conservative

If the coffee party is non-conservative, why isn't it called the Half-caf-latte-no-whip-mochachino-with-sprinkles party?

Re:Coffee party (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474778)

You mean the astroturf group run by a political operative that worked for Barack Obama and Sen James Webb (D-VA)? [bigjournalism.com] She also just happened to be a Strategy Analyst for the NY Times.

The one that is organizing a "grassroots" get together in Chicago that isn't actually being lead by anyone FROM Chicago? [bigjournalism.com]

They aren't an independent group... they're just another special interest group like Obama for America. If you want to be a tool, by all means, do so, just admit to yourself that you are someone else's pawn.

Logical (4, Insightful)

AceJohnny (253840) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474574)

Those up high have understood that the USA's commercial future is not in manufacturing (they left that to China or Germany). If it's not physical goods, then what else is America selling abroad? IP, that's what. That's where the USA's commercial future lies, and that's what it'll have to defend at all costs, trampling their people's and other nation's right to defend that.

It's that or become insolvent. (look up the USA's trade balance over the last few 20 years. Think it'll improve? Think again.)

Re:Logical (0, Flamebait)

ral8158 (947954) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474636)

ahahahahahahahahahaha. You think basing our economy on intellectual property will improve the trade balance and keep us from insolvency?ahahahahahahahahahaha
oh christ have mercy.

Re:Logical (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474714)

Only if for some odd reason countries start to prefer spending money for thin air (that's pretty much what IP actually is) to making money for real goods. But then again, the theory behind Communism was that people prefer working to earning money, so hey, let's give it a whirl...

Re:Logical (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474702)

What would help is not let countries such as China decide what the value of their currency is, but to compute its value from the exports and imports.

The Chinese yuan is worth a lot more than 0.15 U.S. dollars. If we could actually force the real value of the Yuan, manufacturing would once more be viable in this great country.

Let's Do Something (5, Informative)

justinjstark (1645867) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474586)

I know that Obama is more tech-savvy than any President prior and is trying to do everything he can to boost the current US economy, but those of us who are knowledgeable and have a strong opinion on this should contact the White House as well as your Senators and Congresspeople to let them know why we should not be supporting ACTA.

White House: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact [whitehouse.gov]

Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm [senate.gov]

Congresspeople: https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml [house.gov]

Re:Let's Do Something (1, Funny)

Jay L (74152) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474746)

But what if we don't have any senators? For instance, I live in Massachusetts.

Re:Let's Do Something (4, Insightful)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474792)

ACTA will actually make the US poorer.

Yes, ACTA is aimed towards giving IP laws more power, globally. But how much do you think countries with real problems care about protecting IP laws from countries they don't care about? Do you think China will put some muscle behind enforcing IP laws? Or anyone in the far east, maybe with the exception of Japan? Do you think Russia cares a lot, or any of the post-Soviet Union countries? South America? They got bigger problems. Yeah, they'll certainly pay lip service to it and maybe, when enough of a stink is brewing, they might stage a sting or two, arrest a few token low level copy sellers, then ignore the problem. Why? Why not? What's their interest in it? They have little to no IP, it's like asking a landlocked country to spend money to make the coasts that don't belong to it secure.

In the US, ACTA will be enforced fully, of course. Not only the IP of the US, but also the IP of other countries. Yes, including countries like Russia, China and all the others that will not put the same amount of muscle behind it. So who benefits from it? THe US? Stop kidding. Yes, the IP owners in the US will be happy about it, but the US as a country will lose money in the process. Because its consumers have to hand money to the IP owners abroad, with nothing to little coming back in return.

And I'm not even talking about how DVDs are sold for a buck there because else you couldn't sell them at all.

Come on... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474592)

There's no surprise here. Big business runs Washington. The government will never, NEVER oppose the agenda of the entertainment industry, the pharmaceutical industry, the AMA, the NRA, or the energy industries. I will be shocked if the health care overhaul that is eventually passed doesn't somehow infringe on the health insurance cartel's current way of doing business.

Re:Come on... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474706)

The government will never, NEVER oppose the agenda of the entertainment industry, the pharmaceutical industry, the AMA, the NRA, or the energy industries (emphasis added)

Wait, what? The Clinton presidency was one of the biggest blows to the NRA agenda - many new anti-gun laws and an increase in enforcement.

I mean yes I agree with you that there are a lot of special interests at work, and the NRA is one of them, but they do have real and potent opposition.

How does it go? (2, Insightful)

vivin (671928) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474610)

The more things change, the more they stay the same.


Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

How terribly disappointing, Obama. At least the EU threw out this stupid treaty. Hopefully this won't be successful at all.

Re:How does it go? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474870)

At least the EU threw out this stupid treaty.

Hum, sorry to disappoint you, but European parliament (elected by people) did not throw out ACTA. EP only told European commission (nominated by European countries governments): "hey, don't you dare negotiating a treaty without us: show us what this is all about, you morons!"

Well maybe the formulation was different, but that's the spirit of it.

What's true, on the other hand, is that European Parliament has already opposed three strikes law (which, incidentally, is embedded inside ACTA).

Re:How does it go? (1, Informative)

RobVB (1566105) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474874)

How terribly disappointing, Obama. At least the EU threw out this stupid treaty. Hopefully this won't be successful at all.

Actually, the European Commission (the equivalent of the White House) has been supporting ACTA, or at least it hasn't been opposing it.

It was the European Parliament (the equivalent of the Senate and Congress) that opposed the secrecy surrounding ACTA. Even they haven't given an opinion on the contents of ACTA.

I'm glad that he did it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474614)

ACTA is a truly wonderful thing. We, as Americans, need to strengthen our thought property, not make it more accessible. It's one of the few things that we still do well.

With that being said,

Luckily for at least us Europeans, the European Parliament has already shot the ACTA agreement down in an overwhelming 633-to-13 vote, while also forcing total openness - something the US does not want. This means that despite Obama siding with the content providers, ACTA will most likely not come to fruition.

I hope ACTA becomes a reality. It will solidify my reason to move to Europe (and start calling myself European if they'll have me). I'll pretty much have no reason to stay around here.

Give me that last push I need, Obama. I'm hoping for it

-An Anonymous Game Designer.

Great, another failure (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474628)

I knew my vote was between Dumb and Dumber, but stuff like this still pisses me off.

Copyright or Patent? (5, Informative)

kurokame (1764228) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474634)

"But it's only a competitive advantage if our companies know that someone else can't just steal that idea and duplicate it with cheaper inputs and labor."

Wait, MPAA/RIAA? Since when do they deal with fake iPods? I hate them as much as the next guy, but I can't find a word in the article relating to copyrights that wasn't inserted by the author.

Obama's speech (as quoted by TFA) seems to relate only to patents and perhaps branded goods, even if ACTA extends to both. It would be interesting to know if this is indicative of an official focus with regard to ACTA.

Sounds like the title book by Al Franken book (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474640)

"Lying Liars and the Lies They Tell"

Since I voted for him, I can say with all sincerity, change my @ASS!

Unrealistic World View (4, Insightful)

gweihir (88907) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474646)

In any reasonably free society, copying of digital content is impossible to prevent. In non-free societies, it does not matter as those in power can take the money of anybody anyways. So, trying to prevent copying of digital content is just a sure path to failure. Incidentially, protecting outdated business models holds a society back and is bad for eveybody.

Well, I guess it does not matter that much for the rest of the world, the US-centric century is certainly over, as its economic power is vanishing rapidly.

I really despise obama now. (5, Interesting)

unity100 (970058) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474648)

despite i have been a staunch supporter of him and quarreled with my conservative american friends for close to a year since his candidacy to his election and even beyond.

really, from this point on, i dont think i will be hypocritical to defend him in any regard. there are things that can be overlooked and forgiven, noone is perfect. but ransoming rights and liberties of the thought process to private individuals is nothing less than feudalism at its best. and someone who can justify this to himself cannot be defended in anything else.

Future wars (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474658)

We're going to aggressively protect our intellectual property,

I can't wait until the US launches a pre-emptive military strike against <insert media vilified nation here> for a grave and gathering threat of...copyright infringement!

Re:Future wars (1)

BlueStrat (756137) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474868)

We're going to aggressively protect our intellectual property,

I can't wait until the US launches a pre-emptive military strike against [insert media vilified subsection of the population here] for a grave and gathering threat of...copyright infringement!


ywkthnxbye :)


Is anyone really surprised by this? (-1, Flamebait)

ffreeloader (1105115) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474676)

It seems that the RIAA, MPAA, and similar organisations have been successful in lobbying the US administration into supporting their cause. This means that the US government will continue to (financially) support an industry that is simply outdated, and has failed to adapt to the changing market - which seems remarkably anti-capitalistic and anti-free market, even for a Democratic president.

Obama has surrounded himself with people that do not believe in the free market and whose heroes are people like Chairman Mao, Lenin, and Marx. He plainly states that he sought out Marxist professors and left wing radicals while in college. Assuming that he would believe differently than the people he has surrounded himself with stretches credulity to its breaking point.

So, how can anyone be surprised when he acts anti-capitalistic and anti-freemarket? If you are, you simply haven't paid attention to what he has done, rather than what he has said. He most definitely believes government knows best, and ought to control far more aspects of American life than it ever has before.

idiot (3, Insightful)

unity100 (970058) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474834)

this is precisely capitalism, and precisely what you term as 'free market'.

in any environment in which you allow groups or individuals to become more powerful than others, eventually those who get to the top first subdue or eliminate others and a power hierarchy gets established. this is how precisely feudalism came to being in the first place.

this is the nature of social dynamics, and it will never change. unless there are rules and laws preventing anyone from becoming more powerful than others, there will always be a pyramid of power in the long run.

wealth is power.

put in layman's terms, your 'free market' can exist and be free only in the early times. like in the initial times of united states. later, when some groups get more wealth than others, they will get to the top and establish a hierarchy. so, this is the EXACT thing you should have expected to happen - groups who set up the pyramid first, ensuring that pyramid continues to be, and they stay on top of it.

enjoy your 'free' market capitalism. its much more hard to combat than aristocracy.

Re:Is anyone really surprised by this? (0, Redundant)

ffreeloader (1105115) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474886)

Flamebait? Everything I said is true. Just because you don't like what I said doesn't mean it's a troll or flamebait.

Re:Is anyone really surprised by this? (2, Insightful)

sonicmerlin (1505111) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474906)

Why do idiots like you exist in such large quantities in the US, and only in the US? I'm starting to think that there was some self-selection sample bias in terms of the genetic and/or psychological predispositions of the early American settlers.

'Our single greatest asset' (1)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474692)

'Our single greatest asset is the innovation and the ingenuity and creativity of the American people'

Because we (Americans) don't make anything solid anymore. Essentially, we give people in other countries the plans to make $FOO, in exchange for a few free $FOOs, then we have to come up with a new $FOO2 to make sure the other countries want to build the new $FOO2. If the manufacturers ever decide that what they are making is good-enough for the next twenty-thirty years, we're screwed unless we can pretend that we own the ideas.

Re:'Our single greatest asset' (1)

Yoozer (1055188) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474844)

'Our single greatest asset is the innovation and the ingenuity and creativity of the American people'

... because we sold all the other stuff to China.

Obama=Bush III (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474718)

Oh please, as if anyone could possibly be surprised Obama is a corporate whore. What do you think happens if you can't run for president unelss you can raise $60 million. Do you think his benefactors gave him that money expecting nothing in return?

How's President Hope'N'Change working out for you? (0, Flamebait)

Mark Atwood (19301) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474726)

He's just yet another dirty Chicago politican, with the added advantage of a huge cohort of religious followers who made him the Obamessiah.

Slashdot Official Translation (4, Insightful)

Dystopian Rebel (714995) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474732)

'Our single greatest asset is the innovation and the ingenuity and creativity of the American people [...] It is essential to our prosperity and it will only become more so in this century. But it's only a competitive advantage if our companies know that someone else can't just steal that idea and duplicate it with cheaper inputs and labor.'


"Our single greatest asset is the innovation and the ingenuity and the creativity of the American Lawyer. As our education system collapses and laziness and ignorance steadily increase until the Constitution is entirely without meaning and it becomes impossible for our society to function without coercion -- we expect lawyers to bring home enough cash to sustain not just their coke habits but also our military... with a small amount of funds possibly left over for health care (but don't bet on it). We won't have the money in this century to bully anyone with our military capabilities, so we're counting on our lawyers to win the important battles."

Really? REALLY?!?! (2, Insightful)

hguiney (1767252) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474734)

Obama seems to love giving token support to the more popular side of big issues like these without actually researching them first. If he's supposed to be a man of the people, how about supporting consumer rights such as the right to make legal backups of purchased media and the right to enjoy that media on devices of our choosing? Protecting IP is important but not at the expense of the people who make that IP valuable.

Its only fair... (2, Insightful)

Tangential (266113) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474736)

Its only fair, the RIAA and the MPAA have made a sizable investment in Obama and especially in Biden. It wouldn't be fair for them to have spent all that money and gotten nothing but a bunch of justice department positions in return. They've made a sizable purchase of politicians. They should be able to enjoy the fruits of ownership.

Anyone remember RIAA/MPAA's stance on Open Source? (1)

correnos (1727834) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474748)

In case you don't, it was in the news a while ago. They called it piracy and against capitalist ideals. Am I the only one who is beginning to get worried?

What about "Free Culture"? (2, Insightful)

supersloshy (1273442) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474750)

But it’s only a competitive advantage if our companies know that someone else can’t just steal that idea and duplicate it with cheaper inputs and labor.

Look at the Free Culture/Software movement, Obama. There's people all over the place "stealing other people's ideas", except it isn't stealing. When you steal something, you take it from them without their permission. Should you need permission to make a program that does the same thing as another program? Should you need permission to cover, adapt, or remix something someone else did? It's not like you can just sue random people off the street for singing a song you "own" (Oh wait, that happened quite a few times already. Nevermind). None of these uses of our culture should ever be thought of as infringing; doing so practically removes our right to say as we please (then again, people over the years have stated that we have never had "free speech" anyways).

"Fair Use" has produced millions of dollars, and you dare imply that it didn't? By supporting the ACTA/RIAA/MPAA, you're supporting concentration of wealth (which just so happens to be concentrated towards the few companies that are trying to control our culture), which is never a good thing. "Intellectual Property" doesn't need to be "protected" in this matter at all, and these ideas are just getting more and more absurd. Things aren't going to get better if we have people like Obama supporting these crazy ideas.

Open letter to the United States Government (4, Insightful)

GuyverDH (232921) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474752)

Dear Mr. President and members of Congress and Senate,

Please, stop listening to the corporate un-citizens. I say un-citizens because all they care about is lining their pockets with money. Not to say that most Americans wouldn't love to line their pockets with money as well, but only Corporate citizens (which aren't even real citizens as they can't be called to fight for their country, aren't held accountable for their actions unless someone with more money than them can fight them) have the money to pay for you to listen to their needs. The luncheons, the corporate sponsored getaways, the private flights and perks are all their way of buying you, you the representatives of us, not corporations.

If you really want to protect the creators of ideas and artistic endevours, you must do away with tyranical organazitions like the RIAA and MPAA which prosecute little children as well as dead or dying citizens for a percieved (never proven) loss of a few pennies, all the while wholesale stealing from the very creators they cry woefully to protect.

I'm going to copy en masse an e-mail sent to me - please read it, please consider it, and please, when you are done, think about pushing corporate citizenship back where it belongs, to non citizenship - without rights, without needs to protect as you would the individuals who actually do the creating of everything you wish to protect.

Pretty interesting if one reads all the way to the end. Follow this by reading "Confessions of An Economic Hit Man", by John Perkins. We had a surplus in 2000 and no way does the banking industry and those who rule it want to see that again, even if it takes two wars.


Charley Reese has been a journalist for 49 years.

By Charlie Reese

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don't propose a federal budget. The president does.

You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason.. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits.. The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? Nancy Pelosi. She is the leader of the majority party. She and fellow House members, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red ..

If the Army & Marines are in IRAQ , it's because they want them in IRAQ

If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.

There are no insoluble government problems.

Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like "the economy," "inflation," or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

They, and they alone, have the power.

They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.

Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees.

We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.

What you do with this article now that you have read it........... Is up to you.

This might be funny if it weren't so darned true.

Be sure to read all the way to the end:

Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table
At which he's fed.

Tax his tractor,
Tax his mule,
Teach him taxes
Are the rule.

Tax his work,
Tax his pay,
He works for peanuts

Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his pants,
Tax his coat.

Tax his ties,
Tax his shirt,
Tax his work,
Tax his dirt.

Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think.

Tax his cigars,
Tax his beers,
If he cries
Tax his tears.

Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his ass.

Tax all he has
Then let him know
That you won't be done
Till he has no dough.

When he screams and hollers;
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He's good and sore.

Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he's laid.

Put these words
Upon his tomb,
Taxes drove me
to my doom...'

When he's gone,
Do not relax,
Its time to apply
The inheritance tax.

Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Excise Taxes
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
Gross Receipts Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Personal Property Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service Charge Tax
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Tax
Sales Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Service FeeTax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax
Telephone State and Local Tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax

STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY? Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

What in the hell happened? Can you spell 'politicians?'

And I still have to 'press 1' for English!?

Holy flamebait batman (1, Flamebait)

damn_registrars (1103043) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474768)

In a move sure to surprise no one, Obama has come out on the side of the MPAA/RIAA and has backed the ACTA:

I'm glad to see that slashdot maintains such a fair and unbiased approach to reporting. This goes well with the editorial opinion they passed on to us as news on Tuesday [slashdot.org]. Sure, I know that slashdot is not an actual news agency and has no reporters of its own, but they could at least pretend to not be promoting an agenda when choosing which articles to link to from the front page.

ugh. gimme a break. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474780)

Intellectual property and copyright are going to be the single greatest hinderance to innovation within this country as patent trolls and copyright lawyers can expect ever increasing amounts of litigation and profit based off of hurting those who are actually going out there and developing products and services which help push the limits of technology. Personally, I come from the belief that if someone can do it better, they should, and that true competition is based off of who is the best. A simple case and point with this is the iPhone*, while Apple introduced little that truly innovated (phone, web-browsing, iPod, email) it was their method and vision which differentiated the iPhone apart from other offerings on the market and earned its position in the mobile market. Imagine if Blackberry held a patent that gave them sole-access to emailing using a non-tethered wireless connected input device, while Nokia held a patent for making phone calls from a device with no central bay-station, and Microsoft held a patent preventing the use of Web-Browsers on anything but Windows Mobile Phones? Well, Apple would've released a really fancy iPod (it's arguable that that's all they did...) and that would've been it.

For a truly competitive market we need nothing but innovation, ingenuity, and gusto, but the free-marketeers and oligopolists will never let that slide because they don't want innovation they want /absurd/ profits. I know things must be paid for, and that a great amount of money is spent on R&D by firms in high-tech, but! They have an advantage of capital, internal knowledge, and a huge labor force to help curb competition already--why do they need more of an advantage. I'm getting lazy, so... /end rant.

Oh wait, one final remark, if another country has access to a large unskilled labor-force and can reproduce something for less--they should. America on the other hand should be using it's highly-skilled labor force, *cough* comparative advantage *cough*, to produce goods which cannot be reproduced without capital and highly-skilled labor.

*I know the iPhone has an absurd amount of patents on it, most probably bullshit, but just ignore this for the example.

What intellectual property? (1)

whizbang77045 (1342005) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474802)

The only "ideas" being defended here that I can see are audio and video (and maybe, text). Sorry, but once the digital revolution hit, Pandeora's box was opened. They can pass all the laws they want to, but they'll be almost impossible to enforce. Second, the duration of copyrights has been extended, not because it makes sense, but because large corporations, many of them foreign, lobbied in this direction. Whatever happened to the voice of the people? We need shorter copyright terms, and reasonably priced content. The reasons for piracy would largely disappear, as would the reasons to need still more lawyers and law enforcement personnel.

There, he said it *almost* (2, Insightful)

roguegramma (982660) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474804)

He could just as well have said:
"We welcome low standards for patents and long timespans for copyrights because this will help our economy, and we will push these rules down the throat of other nations."

Very misleading article (5, Informative)

nickovs (115935) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474808)

While I'm no particular fan of the MPAA, the RIAA or the ACTA, it deserves to be pointed out that the article is substantially misleading and inaccurate. Firstly, the speech to which they refer, in the section about IP protection, talks exclusively about protecting the licensing of technology and make no mention what so ever of the MPAA, the RIAA or music of video piracy. While these organisations happen to also support the ACTA, it is grossly misleading to say that the speech comes out in support of either of them. Secondly, the article says that "the European Parliament has already shot the ACTA agreement down". This is completely incorrect. The European Parliament have demanded that the European Commission make public the nature of its discussions in the ACTA negotiations, and the EU Privacy Commissioner has expressed concern that the treaty might be incompatible with existing EU law, but the parliament have not passed any resolutions regarding the content of the treaty itself (not least because it's secret, so they don't know what it says).

The process through which the ACTA has be created is highly suspect but it does its opponents no service if those who campaign against it can't present an accurate case.

Wonderful! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474822)

Perhaps the title should be "U.S.'s Obama To Limit Internet Freedom". ;-)

IP based society. (5, Insightful)

Hylandr (813770) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474838)

An IP Based Society is great for every other nation on earth, for in 20 to 30 years all the world has to do to destroy America is simply start ignoring her laws.

Do we then start sending troops into nation X for downloading Disney movies? How about when they all decide to stop paying royalties?

- Dan.

How the Constitution could have saved us... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31474866)

When you throw out all the things you think you'd like the federal government do and just read what it should be, it's clear that politicians have created a self-feeding machine.

The Constitution and the Bill of Rights state that the federal government has jurisdiction in a number of areas, and all other rights belong to the states (unless the states specifically give up a right via an amendment). Lobbying Congress, bribing a Senator, etc... was supposed to be of little value to business because states set their own policies. This would mean that businesses would naturally move to where the climate was most hospitable and states would have to balance heavy-handed regulation and taxes with the jobs and prosperity that attracting businesses would bring.

When a fundamental shift of power from the states to Washington occurs, the balances are gone, everyone stops competing, and instead tries to secure favorable legislation nationwide. Now we have the unholy alliance of government and corporations. Politicians depend on corporate money and corporations depend on provisions biased in their favor.

Our decentralized nation was a good idea. Perhaps a bit inconvenient at times, but it allowed many different ideas to be tested across the country and empowered people with better access to government. We need to re-establish the Constitution as the Law of the Land and hold those accountable who willfully violate it.

Motherhood and apple pie... (4, Insightful)

davecb (6526) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474876)

He made some un-controversial statements about protecting U.S industry from commercial copying: "But it's only a competitive advantage if our companies know that someone else can't just steal that idea and duplicate it with cheaper inputs and labor."

I don't think anyone would mind that, and that is what a legitimate anti-counterfeiting treaty would prevent.

Alas, the commentator leaps out from beneath his bridge and shouts "the RIAA wants that too, and they're evil, so Obama is evil". That's then picked up by a page headed "Obama Care - Stop Him", and retitled "Obama Sides with RIAA, MPAA; Backs ACTA" and referenced here as "Obama Backs MPAA, RIAA, and ACTA".

Do you begin to see a pattern here? This is a classic "guilt by association" scam, in which you say "X", and are promptly tarred and feathered by a commentator who says "but the <insert your choice of evil group here> is in favor of X, therfore you're a member/supporter/fellow-traveler of <evil group>.

One should attack Mr. Obama for what he said, not for something Mr. Sandoval said on his behalf...


Neal Stephenson is a genius (5, Interesting)

Vahokif (1292866) | more than 4 years ago | (#31474900)

When it gets down to it -- talking trade balances here -- once we've brain-drained all our technology into other countries, once things have evened out, they're making cars in Bolivia and microwave ovens in Tadzhikistan and selling them here -- once our edge in natural resources has been made irrelevant by giant Hong Kong ships and dirigibles that can ship North Dakota all the way to New Zealand for a nickel -- once the Invisible Hand has taken all those historical inequities and smeared them out into a broad global layer of what a Pakistani brickmaker would consider to be prosperity -- y'know what? There's only four things we do better than anyone else:

  • music
  • movies
  • microcode (software)
  • high-speed pizza delivery

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