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Milgram's Experiment — the TV Show

samzenpus posted more than 4 years ago | from the shock-it-to-me dept.

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vieux schnock writes "A controversy has arisen over a French television show reproducing Milgram's experiment in front of a live audience. Milgram's original experiment wanted to show the willingness of study participants to 'obey an authority figure who instructed them to perform acts that conflicted with their personal conscience.' But this time, it seems that television can play that deadly 'authority' figure with more devastating results: While Milgran got 65% of the participants to hit the maximum jolt button, '[in] the final tally, 81 percent of the contestants turned up the juice to the maximum.'"

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The followup (1)

Profane MuthaFucka (574406) | more than 4 years ago | (#31525598)

They should have the contestant watch a man killing kittens. The purpose will be to find out how many people will actually get up out of their chair to save the kitten, despite their concern that if they saved the kitten the show would be spoiled.

I bet everybody would just sit there watching kittens get slaughtered.

Re:The followup (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31528558)

What worng with kitten slaughtering? Stop been a moralfag, we all kill other species every day for cloth, food or just because they are anoying(mosquito are animal life form). Kitten has large head, wich triger the baby caring reflex in most mammalian brain. This is why you can see in nature dog caring to kitten, cat carring for baby squirel and human carring for ever fucking pet he find cute(eg: Big head. Kawaii!).

If there was more money to win then the value of the cumulated kittens i would watch them die. On the other side, i pick snail in the street to free them in the grass or near tree. This is not a contrdiction, i am enlightened.

Re:The followup (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31530828)

Haha!

For a quarter, I'd water board YOU with URINE and get a BIG laugh out of it to boot watching you cry like the baby pussy you are!
I am enlightened ---Thanks!

LOL

PS Don't worry about the 1967 GTO you lovingly restored to "pick up chicks". I'll enter it into the demolition derby and get big hoots from your friends while they watch it turn into food for the crusher. LOL

Re:The followup (1)

LowlyWorm (966676) | more than 4 years ago | (#31533406)

If there was more money to win then [sic] the value of the cumulated kittens i would watch them die. On the other side, i pick snail in the street to free them in the grass or near tree. This is not a contrdiction, i am enlightened.

It would depend on how the issue was framed. The experiment was designed to show where moral and ethical issues overcome financial incentive in others on an individual basis but just as in any statistical analysis the wording (or in the case the conditions of the experiment)has or should, if properly conducted, a tremendous influence on the outcome. The question is was the original experiment moral and ethical.

Re:The followup (1)

MOInsIT (1770336) | more than 4 years ago | (#31541950)

Sadly, I don't think you're far off the mark there. I am not a member of PETA or anything like that but the thing that really irritates me about animal abuse is the animal can not speak up in its own defense.

That's why I freaking HATE PETA (1)

Weaselmancer (533834) | about 4 years ago | (#31592582)

I am not a member of PETA or anything like that but the thing that really irritates me about animal abuse is the animal can not speak up in its own defense.

That's it in a nutshell. Thanks to PETA, if anyone says they're for the humane treatment of animals - anyone listening these days might assume that you're one of these nutbags.

It's a shame that we all have to issue a disclaimer when we say we're against animal abuse.

Re:The followup (1)

h4rm0ny (722443) | more than 3 years ago | (#31548576)

There's a flaw in the analysis of the story - he attributes the greater rate of people willing to kill on order to the power of television. I'd like to know how he controlled for the selection bias of people inclined to go on game shows. I'd also be interested to know how people of modern western culture compare to people at the time Milgram did his original experiments. Have people become more obedient?

Well, it could be... (0, Flamebait)

MrLogic17 (233498) | more than 4 years ago | (#31528286)

There are multiple factors here. One is that TV's involved.

The other is that this is a measurement of the French...

Well. (2, Informative)

Korey Kaczor (1345661) | more than 4 years ago | (#31533932)

That explains democracy a bit too well.

Re:Well. (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 4 years ago | (#31547244)

That explains the French government better than any sociologic explanation. Everyone wants to be a "winner", even if you're a hopeless loser actually.

Re:Well. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31580668)

So why didn't the guy pushing the button surrender?

The modern world is a Milgram experiment (1)

sjames (1099) | about 4 years ago | (#31560610)

Every day, people routinely report for work where they will be told to do things that vary from clearly OK to nonsensical to outright immoral. They do them with little complaint and then go home. Why not televise it?

The few cases where someone stands up and says "I won't do this, it is wrong" AND has enough authority to not be simply fired are rare enough to be considered newsworthy.

Affect vs. Effect (1)

clone53421 (1310749) | about 4 years ago | (#31570370)

The experience, he said, continued to effect participants even after it was over. Some grew bolder about standing up to their bosses, or admitted their homosexuality to their families, he said.

Can’t we get them straight even when we’re journalists paid to know better?

Stupid question, I guess.

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