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Ubuntu's "Lucid Lynx" Enters Beta

timothy posted more than 4 years ago | from the but-that-danged-button-arrangement-sucks dept.

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ActionDesignStudios writes "The upcoming release of Ubuntu, titled 'Lucid Lynx,' has just entered the beta cycle. Alongside the usual desktop and server versions, a special version has been released that is designed to run on Amazon's EC2 cloud service. This release of Ubuntu does away with the brown 'Human' Gnome theme we've all become accustomed to, replaced by a new version Canonical says is inspired by light. The new release also includes much better integration with social networking services such as Twitter, identi.ca and Facebook, among others."

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f1rst p0st (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31593068)

fuck this shit, i'm going to fedora.

Re:f1rst p0st (0, Troll)

techno-vampire (666512) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593172)

Why? Fedora comes out with new versions every nine months or so and it's not anywhere near as new-luser friendly as Ubuntu.

Re:f1rst p0st (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31593446)

Actually Fedora is released every 6th month.beAnd please specify why Fedora is not as user-friendly as Ubuntu. Both use GNOME as default desktop, so how can Fedora bl less user-friendly?

Re:f1rst p0st (2, Funny)

houstonbofh (602064) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593972)

so how can Fedora bl less user-friendly?

Update Manager and Software Center to start with.

Re:f1rst p0st (2, Insightful)

VoltageX (845249) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593182)

This is possibly more insightful than it seems. Canonical seem to be pushing more and more in their own direction, rather than anything the Ubuntu community does. This is good for Ubuntu, but potentially bad for users as more and more changes are made to the GNOME interface, the browser etc etc.

Re:f1rst p0st (3, Insightful)

iris-n (1276146) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593342)

I think that the dream of a mainstream community-based OS is dead now.

At least Fedora does not have these delusions of grandeur. It is a testbed for Red Hat, I'm OK with that. I don't want my OS to be interesting, for fuck's sake. I want it very predictable and unobtrusive. Is it too much to ask?

Re:f1rst p0st (1)

capnkr (1153623) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593572)

I don't want my OS to be interesting, for fuck's sake. I want it very predictable and unobtrusive.

Here, here. Glad to see someone else who doesn't give a shit that an "OS be tightly integrated with/for social networking"? Why is staring at our electronic bellybuttons so frikkin' important??? Could we be more self-absorbed, here on Planet Hollywood? {grumble grumble... slinks back off to cave...}

Using it since Alpha 1 (4, Informative)

Aphoxema (1088507) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593076)

I really like what I see, but it is a little... counter-intuitive that they not only put the window controls on the left side of windows but put them in order of Maximize-Minimize-Close. No matter, I have everything maximized all the time anyways and on my Wind I've been using Maximus with Window-Picker-Applet.

Re:Using it since Alpha 1 (1)

shentino (1139071) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593136)

What kind of a screwed up layout is that?

Re:Using it since Alpha 1 (2, Insightful)

Aphoxema (1088507) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593196)

It almost makes sense.

Re:Using it since Alpha 1 (1)

wordsnyc (956034) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593946)

Been using the beta since Saturday, and this thing with the buttons is incredibly annoying.

Re:Using it since Alpha 1 (1)

Aphoxema (1088507) | more than 4 years ago | (#31594040)

Been using the beta since Saturday, and this thing with the buttons is incredibly annoying.

I don't mind the buttons on the left so much as the close button on the inside, really.

Re:Using it since Alpha 1 (1)

shyisc (1625867) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593962)

A logical one. It just so happens logic in this case doesn't coincide with common practice. First there is maximize, which increases the size of the window, then minimize which hides it, then close which closes it. So the window gets bigger, smaller, disappears. The layout we are all used to puts the extremes (maximize, close) together, and the two similarities (minimize, close) apart, which doesn't really make sense if you look at the logical ordering of the buttons. In a sense, Ubuntu is actually correcting a historical mistake, and in doing that it also sets itself apart from everyone else.

The thing I don't like is the button-trough. It only adds visual clutter without adding any value, and makes it harder to customize the theme without breaking it. Aside from that, I think the new GTK and Metacity theme are pretty decent, but they could have chosen something better. Still, it makes a good foundation for the next few years, even if it's still not up to par with KDE, Windows, or Macintosh. If they could get it to look as good as the new website mock-ups and Plymouth theme then they'd really have something special. For now I think they should brighten the color of the buttons, as I find them too dark.

Re:Using it since Alpha 1 (5, Interesting)

da cog (531643) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593180)

Pure speculation, but it could be that their goal is to order the window buttons in *increasing* order of their impact on the window, so that the easiest to click button merely resizes the window rather than of taking it away or destroying it. This arguably makes more sense then the OSX interface where the easiest button to click of the three is the one that gets rid of your window.

Re:Using it since Alpha 1 (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31593264)

It would have made less sense to users upgrading to OS X from previous versions. The window close button has always been in the upper left corner on a Mac.

Re:Using it since Alpha 1 (2, Insightful)

techno-vampire (666512) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593198)

I have everything maximized all the time anyway

Why? What's the point of having more than one window open if everything's always maximized? I've seen it many times, but I've never understood it.

Re:Using it since Alpha 1 (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31593228)

Do you also wonder why some guys would want to stick their dick into an icky vagina?

Re:Using it since Alpha 1 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31593262)

Well, you see, there's this thing called the "Window List" which lets you easily switch between these windows that are maximized. Also alt tab. If I don't need to be looking at more than one window at a time, what's the point in running a program un-maximized?

Re:Using it since Alpha 1 (2, Funny)

Aphoxema (1088507) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593322)

Well, you see, there's this thing called the "Window List" which lets you easily switch between these windows that are maximized. Also alt tab. If I don't need to be looking at more than one window at a time, what's the point in running a program un-maximized?

You know, so you can watch your porn while you comment on /.

Re:Using it since Alpha 1 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31593468)

Well, you see, there's this thing called the "Window List" which lets you easily switch between these windows that are maximized. Also alt tab. If I don't need to be looking at more than one window at a time, what's the point in running a program un-maximized?

You know, so you can watch your porn while you comment on /.

Slashdot is my porn!

Re:Using it since Alpha 1 (1)

Aphoxema (1088507) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593562)

Oh, snap.

Re:Using it since Alpha 1 (1)

skine (1524819) | more than 4 years ago | (#31594018)

That's why I have two monitors.

That is, I can have six porn videos streaming on my main display while I read slashdot at full screen on my secondary display.

Re:Using it since Alpha 1 (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593324)

I have everything maximized all the time anyway

Why? What's the point of having more than one window open if everything's always maximized? I've seen it many times, but I've never understood it.

It makes sense for me on my eeepc 701. The screen is small and I don't want to waste space. I need different windows open for different purposes. For example a shell window and an editor.

Re:Using it since Alpha 1 (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31593810)

If you really want to make full use of your screen real estate, I suggest looking into tiling window managers. Personally, I use awesome. I love how convenient and efficient it is to be able to switch to any windows I want to display simultaneously by just hitting a couple keystrokes. They're automatically resized to fill the screen without overlapping, although I can adjust it further if necessary with just a couple more keystrokes. No need to waste time moving my hands away from the keyboard, let alone wasting time dragging windows around to reposition them, dragging to resize, etc.

Re:Using it since Alpha 1 (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593932)

I would be happy if I could configure the gnome window list to never minimize.

Re:Using it since Alpha 1 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31593204)

As long as I can easily switch it back to how it currently is, I don't really care. I'm not sure what the reasoning is behind the switch besides pissing off current users.

Ubuntu One-liner of the Year: 2010 (5, Funny)

Statecraftsman (718862) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593244)

gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string menu:minimize,maximize,close

Re:Ubuntu One-liner of the Year: 2010 (1)

Aphoxema (1088507) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593458)

I hope they fix it so it doesn't set that value every time the Ambiance theme is loaded, it appears it currently causes all themes to put all the controls at the left.

Re:Ubuntu One-liner of the Year: 2010 (1)

Statecraftsman (718862) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593536)

I'm also noticing that the minimize icon is shaded so it looks out of place at the usual position.

Re:Ubuntu One-liner of the Year: 2010 (2, Funny)

martin-boundary (547041) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593844)

gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string menu:minimize,maximize,close

Is this a Lynx thing or something? When I enter this in my graphical web browser, all I get is

"Server not found, Iceweasel can't find the server at www.gconftool-2.com"

Re:Using it since Alpha 1 (2, Informative)

LingNoi (1066278) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593286)

They say it was a decision from the design team however, I suspect the decision to change the window controls has to do with the new mac guy that just joined canonical [slashdot.org] . The timing is just too convenient.

Either way it's a foot meet bullet situation. I very much suspect a lot of people to move distro over this. Yes, I know you can type in a command to fix this however the point of Ubuntu was that you could install it and go. You didn't have to dick around with it and this decision is going to force people to spend time configuring their system unless they add some option at install time.

It's like Snow Leopard changing the controls on the right. How they expected to do this without getting criticised heavily for it is absurd. Not only that but Mark's Comments towards the end of this bug report [launchpad.net] posted in a previous slashdot story [slashdot.org] have really opened my eyes as to what a dick he really is when talking to his users.

There's lots of reasons to keep the close buttons on the right by default and yet Mark can't come up with one reason to move them, just a lot of nonsense about "his plans" which he doesn't want to share.

Re:Using it since Alpha 1 (1)

Aphoxema (1088507) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593428)

There's lots of reasons to keep the close buttons on the right by default and yet Mark can't come up with one reason to move them, just a lot of nonsense about "his plans" which he doesn't want to share.

I guess he just got bit by the Steve Jobs bug.

Re:Using it since Alpha 1 (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31593642)

Not only that but Mark's Comments towards the end of this bug report [launchpad.net] posted in a previous slashdot story [slashdot.org] have really opened my eyes as to what a dick he really is when talking to his users.

There's lots of reasons to keep the close buttons on the right by default and yet Mark can't come up with one reason to move them, just a lot of nonsense about "his plans" which he doesn't want to share.

He is absolutely not being a dick. Just take a look at the rubbish people are throwing his way. Nothing he's said could be considered harsh to any but the most sensitive and fragile of souls out there and it's usually those fragile fools throwing the most mud.

The design team made a decision, and they've said they'll take on board any reasonable criticisms but most of what's going on is cry babies with their, "Listen to me, I want it this way, just because, and if you don't do what I say then I'll take my bat and ball and use another distro."

It's fine to take the view that you don't like where the buttons are and it's easily changed too. Just because someone wont do what you want just by crying and screaming at them via bug reports, etc. without being reasonable is hardly unusual. If I demand you to stop reading Slashdot just cause I want you to with no good reason and being a baby while I ask would rightly be met with a no. It's not the end of the world where the buttons are now and there's a way to put them where you want. How most of the posters can justify their positions on this in any way mystifies me.

Re:Using it since Alpha 1 (3, Interesting)

Aphoxema (1088507) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593400)

Here's a screenshot of my netbook...

http://operationinertia.org/SD/Screenshot8080.png [operationinertia.org]

I switched to Chrome because... well, I don't know. I'm just more comfortable with it in the short time I've used it.

The nice thing about Window Picker Applet is it always keeps the close button to the right edge, so if it's the last applet on the upper panel then I can always expect the close button to be in the upper-right corner.

Maximus removes the window decoration on maximized windows and maximizes all windows windows by default (with some exceptions). Chrome, when using the GTK theme and allowing the DE to manage the decorations nests quite nicely.

I also hid all the subdirectories in the gnome menu and left just the stuff I use in the root.

I grew up using computers, but lately I've been less serious about them. Ubuntu caught me somewhere in between and it just does me right.

Re:Using it since Alpha 1 (1)

elfprince13 (1521333) | more than 4 years ago | (#31594082)

It's an unholy hybrid between Windows button ordering and OS X button alignment.

"Does away with" the Human theme? (-1, Redundant)

Minwee (522556) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593082)

That's funny, after upgrading I still have Human as an option. It's just not the default for new installs.

This must be some new definition of "does away with" which actually means something completely different.

Re:"Does away with" the Human theme? (3, Insightful)

Kitkoan (1719118) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593120)

That's funny, after upgrading I still have Human as an option. It's just not the default for new installs.

This must be some new definition of "does away with" which actually means something completely different.

Humans are now obsolete and will be done away with, is what it means.

Obsolete (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31593160)

Humans are now obsolete and will be done away with, is what it means.

Nothing is the way it seems
Discerning man from machines now

Dominate as to erase
Wiping man off Earth's face now

Defaced by all inept justice
Shamed by the mental abuses
Branded "inferior weakness"
Ordered to cease and to desist!

Man is obsolete!
Our world, obsolete!
Man is obsolete!
Erased, extinct!
Obsolete!

Fueling engines through deceit
To eradicate humanity

Defaced by all inept justice
Shamed by the mental abuses
Branded "inferior weakness"
Ordered to cease and desist!

Man is obsolete!
Our world, obsolete!
Man is obsolete!
Erased, extinct!
Obsolete!

Re:"Does away with" the Human theme? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31593164)

No, they just don't want to be associated with primitive, savage, African niggers. The so-called "human" themes evoke upright apes living in straw huts while ooking and eeking and wallowing in their own shit. It's a shame that somebody gave 'em machine guns and turned 'em loose on each other.

Being nice and pandering to the lowest common denominator is starting to turn people off, with all of the Darfur/Katrina/Haiti/female genital mutilation/famine/rape/filth/slavery/disease(sexually-transmitted and otherwise).

Re:"Does away with" the Human theme? (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31593352)

Modded Insightful?

Really? Some troll talking about how awful and evil black people are?
The guy turned the ugly brown theme into a disgusting racial rant.
For shame.

Re:"Does away with" the Human theme? (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31593416)

what other ugly brown humans are there?

Re:"Does away with" the Human theme? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31593818)

what other ugly brown humans are there?

dot-heads, spics, jappos, chinks and other assorted gooks.

I remember back when it was smaller (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31593086)

Several gigs seems a bit bloated for a text based browser, but I'll give it a try.

Re:I remember back when it was smaller (1)

Kitkoan (1719118) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593148)

Several gigs seems a bit bloated for a text based browser, but I'll give it a try.

So was a text based OS and GUI based OS back in the day, the times are a changing.

Re:I remember back when it was smaller (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31593366)

...for the worse.

Re:I remember back when it was smaller (3, Funny)

Qubit (100461) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593272)

Several gigs seems a bit bloated for a text based browser

Yeah, well screens are bigger now, so the text on them is much bigger, and therefore so are the fonts...

This is why I tell my friends to choose computers with a smaller screen size.

Re:I remember back when it was smaller (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31593766)

700 megs for ubuntu.
7 gigs only if you install a metric crapton of stuff ... or you have WOW installed with wine.

Re:I remember back when it was smaller (1)

RLiegh (247921) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593832)

700 megs for ubuntu.
7 gigs only if you install a metric crapton of stuff ... or you have WOW installed with wine.

Funny, normally you hear a woosh after a post like that. Must have been to far up.

Lucid what? (3, Funny)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593094)

Does this mean it has a new default browser [wikipedia.org] ? Or that it can run old handheld games [wikipedia.org] ? Unlike the last few animal nicknames for Ubuntu releases (Hardy Heron, Intrepid Ibex, Jaunty Jackalope, Karmic Koala), this name is already taken by tech products with at least a cult following. Or is it a way to force Apple to step away from the big cat naming scheme for Mac OS X 10.7?

Re:Lucid what? (1)

jonwil (467024) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593248)

Apple could call 10.7 OSX 10.7 Cheetah.

Re:Lucid what? (3, Informative)

0100010001010011 (652467) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593332)

10.0 was Cheetah.

Public Beta: "Kodiak"
10.0: "Cheetah"
10.1: "Puma"
10.2: "Jaguar"
10.3: "Panther"
10.4: "Tiger"
10.5: "Leopard"
10.6: "Snow Leopard"

Re:Lucid what? (1)

rockNme2349 (1414329) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593316)

Really, there weren't that many choices. Lucid Lemur [answers.com] is not nearly as exciting.

Re:Lucid what? (4, Funny)

Minwee (522556) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593450)

I'm more enthused by their upcoming Masturbating Monkey [gmane.org] release in October.

Re:Lucid what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31593476)

Being a not god guy and occasional fan of British humour, I personally think they should call the 10.4 release of Ubuntu 'Laughing Llama'

Re:Lucid what? (1)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593498)

Lucky Llama sounds so much better than Lucid Lynx and is happier, more funny.

Re:Lucid what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31593578)

Lucky Llama isn't alliterative, though, and therefore less fun to say. Also, Lucid Lynx will be harder to screw up than Karmic Koala, which I'd usually end up calling "Karmic Chameleon"...

Window Buttons (2)

anshulajain (1359933) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593096)

...and the difference between 9.10 & 10.04 Beta are the window buttons, which are now on the top left corner. Seriously, there's a major flame war on this in the "Ubuntu Blogosphere". Don't these these bloggers have anything else to do, other than obsess over the placement of window buttons? (Which can be very easily reverted back to original way)

Re:Window Buttons (4, Informative)

iris-n (1276146) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593210)

They're mostly complaining about the ubuntu devs: "Don't these these devs have anything else to do, other than toy with the placement of window buttons?"

Re:Window Buttons (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31593266)

Don't these these bloggers have anything else to do, other than obsess over the placement of window buttons?

Ubuntu is the mainstream Linux GUI and it uses windows to display applications. The way in which windows are controlled matters a great deal. As Shuttleworth says it's not a democracy and he can choose, but all software has users and if they're not convinced that changes are made for the best reasons then of course they're going to do what they're allowed to do: talk about it.

This change hasn't been justified on any grounds. It puts the 'Close' button near the 'File' menu and other drop-downs which makes it easier to misclick and close applications. It's not a common layout across WIMP GUIs. It's an unnecessary and pointless variation on what people expect.

(Which can be very easily reverted back to original way)

Very easily? So it's a multichoice box somewhere in the GUI then?

The non-easy solution was to modify or make a gconf key. Is that really the easy way of doing it?

Re:Window Buttons (1)

delirium of disorder (701392) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593440)

This change hasn't been justified on any grounds. It puts the 'Close' button near the 'File' menu and other drop-downs which makes it easier to misclick and close applications. It's not a common layout across WIMP GUIs. It's an unnecessary and pointless variation on what people expect.

That looks pretty annoying and is sure to confuse any new users I try to migrate from Windows or an earlier version of Ubuntu. I hope debian isn't planning something similar, because this might be enough to make me switch back to debian for my x86 desktops.

Re:Window Buttons (1)

mirix (1649853) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593556)

What made you switch away from Debian in the first place?

Ubuntu seems like a dumbed down, stupidly named, broken debian as far as I can tell.

Just like real life (2, Funny)

tpstigers (1075021) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593106)

So now I'm not Human by default, but have to make a conscious decision to be Human. Just like real life.

Not only integration with social netwroking sites (-1, Troll)

aBaldrich (1692238) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593124)

The best integration is with Mac OS.

Used it for a few days.. (4, Interesting)

s0litaire (1205168) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593154)

... and I like it!
Boot times are FAST on my laptop down to 27s (85s booting on 9.04)

Re:Used it for a few days.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31593544)

It's a pity it didn't have time to load the proportional-spaced fonts before you posted your comment :(

Re:Used it for a few days.. (1)

s0litaire (1205168) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593610)

It's a choice :P

Music Store (3, Interesting)

headkase (533448) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593174)

I was excited about the Ubuntu One Music Store but then I found out it is gimped in Canada: indie artists only. So once again record labels keep my money out of their pockets! ;)

Re:Music Store (5, Funny)

Kitkoan (1719118) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593482)

I was excited about the Ubuntu One Music Store but then I found out it is gimped in Canada: indie artists only. So once again record labels keep my money out of their pockets! ;)

It's to make sure mistakes like Celine Dion are avoided again.

Re:Music Store (2, Funny)

H0p313ss (811249) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593634)

It's to make sure mistakes like Celine Dion are avoided again.

What mistake? We shipped her off to Vegas, it's all part of the plan.

Re:Music Store (1)

skine (1524819) | more than 4 years ago | (#31594088)

Isn't she a bit...ripe, for the harvest?

Re:Music Store (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31593512)

I wouldn't mind it starting with a limited amount of artists. What I don't understand is why they are only offering MP3s? On Linux! When I buy music I expect FLAC and Ogg Vorbis.

Re:Music Store (2, Insightful)

wvmarle (1070040) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593744)

Sounds like they filter all the crap out for you already, leaving only music by real musicians. You should be happy for that, less risk of making a mistake when buying music.

Glad to see (0, Redundant)

hduff (570443) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593186)

a major distro based on a text browser!

I'm using Lucid Lynx Beta... (5, Informative)

oldmeddler (1614805) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593200)

...right now. I like it fine, though some changes (moving windows controls to the left side, took a bit of getting used to. The purple scheme sucks but is easy enough to change. There is still a problem with running a fixed IP, or at least there is some trick to making it work properly that I haven't learned yet. It does seem to boot a bit faster, but fast boot times are of little importance to someone who typically runs his computer 24/7. So far, I see no significant improvements, but more importantly, no noticeable degradations, yet.

Slow News Day? (-1, Troll)

kai_hiwatari (1642285) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593246)

OMGZZZ!!! Lucid Lynx enters beta!!! is slashdot having a slow news day today?

Re:Slow News Day? (2, Insightful)

socceroos (1374367) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593384)

You didn't complain when Windows 7 entered beta or RC. This is tech news. Get used to it or head over to digg.

Re:Slow News Day? (5, Insightful)

Again (1351325) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593396)

OMGZZZ!!! Lucid Lynx enters beta!!! is slashdot having a slow news day today?

Ubuntu enters beta every six months. It's news for those of us who like beta-testing Ubuntu.

Just because a story appears on Slashdot front page does not mean that you have to click "Read More" and then have to come up with something to comment. Go ahead and skip an article if you don't find it interesting. No seriously, go ahead. No one is going to stop you. You won't get an achievement saying "Did not comment on articlezor!".

Re:Slow News Day? (2, Insightful)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593538)

Ubuntu enters beta every six months. It's news for those of us who like beta-testing Ubuntu.

And it's more important than that for those of us that like to stick with a LTS version of Ubuntu; this is the first Beta in a while.

Re:Slow News Day? (2, Insightful)

icannotthinkofaname (1480543) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593674)

Ubuntu enters beta every six months. It's news for those of us who like beta-testing Ubuntu.

I disagree, based on the current amount of time for which the beta has been out. Those of us who like beta-testing Ubuntu should have known this, oh, 4 or 5 days ago, when it happened.

For those of us who like beta-testing Ubuntu, this is olds, not news.

Re:Slow News Day? (1)

VGPowerlord (621254) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593954)

Just because a story appears on Slashdot front page does not mean that you have to click "Read More" and then have to come up with something to comment. Go ahead and skip an article if you don't find it interesting. No seriously, go ahead. No one is going to stop you. You won't get an achievement saying "Did not comment on articlezor!"

Even better, click the - button next to the topic name and choose a reason that you did so ("stupid" is on the list). If enough people do so, the article will fall far enough that people can't read it. It's already low enough to hide the article summary until you click the topic name...

Re:Slow News Day? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31593406)

You must be new here.

Followin Lucid Lynx will be... (4, Funny)

EreIamJH (180023) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593358)

Masturbating Monkey

Re:Followin Lucid Lynx will be... (1)

JakartaDean (834076) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593552)

I always thought they made a mistake with 8.10, when they could have given it a "Cheers" tribute name: Hungry Heifer

Re:Followin Lucid Lynx will be... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31593812)

Masturbating Mark

ftfy

One step forward, two steps back (4, Informative)

Judinous (1093945) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593474)

I'm a big fan of Ubuntu, and I mostly run Ubuntu Server or Debian machines for my personal desktop usage. However, their habit of catastrophically breaking important features in their releases is really getting on my nerves. Wi-fi support, for example, has been fixed and re-broken repeatedly over the past few years. I think that this release takes the cake when it comes to breaking existing functionality, though. The first two known issues listed for 10.04:

#Because of the new alternatives system used for nvidia driver packages, the nvidia installer from NVIDIA's website currently doesn't work.
#The fglrx binary driver for ATI video chipsets does not yet support the X server in Lucid. As a workaround, users should use the open source -ati driver instead.

Both of these are pretty much show-stoppers, especially the ATI issue. Is a month long enough to sort out a problem this serious?

Re:One step forward, two steps back (4, Insightful)

Aphoxema (1088507) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593514)

Both of these are pretty much show-stoppers, especially the ATI issue. Is a month long enough to sort out a problem this serious?

They've probably been planning around this longer than a month already. Anyways, as for ATI, x.org shouldn't have to plan around ATI's schedule, especially with their history of support.

Re:One step forward, two steps back (1)

Judinous (1093945) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593564)

If the ATI driver issue has something to do with x.org updates, why would Ubuntu include a version of x.org in their release that doesn't work with ATI cards? Regardless of where the finger-pointing leads, there is no reason for an Ubuntu release to have this issue, if it didn't have the issue before. If the newer x.org is the issue, ship the old one. If the newer fglrx is the issue, ship the old one. If an underlying change in the OS is the issue, they fucked up.

Re:One step forward, two steps back (1)

Aphoxema (1088507) | more than 4 years ago | (#31594032)

The focus for the new x.org is to provide new features such as the free drivers that ATI has failed to adequately support. Ubuntu would only show weakness in allowing proprietary drivers to determine their progress.

Re:One step forward, two steps back (1)

Homburg (213427) | more than 4 years ago | (#31594076)

why would Ubuntu include a version of x.org in their release that doesn't work with ATI cards?

It does work with ATI cards, it just doesn't work with the closed-source ATI drivers. This does mean no acceleration on HD 5000 cards, and somewhat slower acceleration on other ATI cards, but it does work. The alternative would be either sticking with an older version of X (thereby foregoing important bug fixes and performance enhancements), or shipping two X servers (which would be possible, but would be a serious support headache, particularly as this is a long-term support release).

What I want to know is ... (4, Insightful)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593478)

The new release also includes much better integration with social networking services such as Twitter, identi.ca and Facebook

Why should an operating system "integrate" with a social networking service?

Re:What I want to know is ... (2, Interesting)

Aphoxema (1088507) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593492)

The new release also includes much better integration with social networking services such as Twitter, identi.ca and Facebook

Why should an operating system "integrate" with a social networking service?

Ever hear about that "Killer App" everyone's been looking for?

Re:What I want to know is ... (4, Informative)

Again (1351325) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593526)

The new release also includes much better integration with social networking services such as Twitter, identi.ca and Facebook

Why should an operating system "integrate" with a social networking service?

Ubuntu provides not just the Linux operating system but also the package of applications that they deem people may find useful. Applications which provide social networking integration will be put to use for a lot of people so they are included.

Re:What I want to know is ... (2, Insightful)

Lord Ender (156273) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593530)

Because "operating system" means more than you think it means. It ships with a desktop manager which allows email, IM, and other communication services to access the dock. That's what "integrates" means.

Re:What I want to know is ... (5, Funny)

adamofgreyskull (640712) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593576)

My fstab is stored in twitter status messages you insensitive clod!

Re:What I want to know is ... (2, Funny)

H0p313ss (811249) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593662)

My fstab is stored in twitter status messages you insensitive clod!

QUICK, PATENT THAT IDEA!

Re:What I want to know is ... (1)

QuantumRiff (120817) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593996)

Because Ubuntu is not an operating system. Ubuntu is a distribution, a collection of Operating system and user tools! Linux (plus the GNU tools, some would scream) are an operating system.

Gwibber actually is kind of addictive. I do like it..

Re:What I want to know is ... (1)

michael1221988 (1613671) | more than 4 years ago | (#31594038)

Because it is not an operating system. It is a distro

But does it run lynx? (1)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593480)

No, really. Some pages render entirely differently under lynx than under (e)links.

Active Directory? What about Open Directory? (1)

YesIAmAScript (886271) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593524)

Anyone able to get Karmic to authenticate using Open Directory?

If you search the net a little there are people saying it can be made to work, but I can't get the authentication to work, although I can make OD users appear in the user database with some work (i.e. I made LDAP work just not kerberos).

I'm still using Jaunty Jackalope (1)

Skarecrow77 (1714214) | more than 4 years ago | (#31593652)

And I can't figure out why I would want to upgrade. I didn't upgrade to Koala, because the only real change I could find was they dropped pidgen for evolution or something like that. It was seriously the least impressive OS upgrade I've ever seen. Oh, and I don't have to type my name in at the login prompt anymore, I can click an icon like xp/vista?

So aside from a new theme that I'm not finding very attractive in the screenshots I've seen anyway, I haven't seen anything that really makes me want to upgrade to lynx either.

Really, the only reason I probably will upgrade to lynx is because support on jaunty runs out in October. That's about it. I am really not looking forward to seeing what the upgrade breaks either.

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