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The $8,500 Gaming Table You Want

CmdrTaco posted more than 4 years ago | from the i'm-gonna-need-a-raise dept.

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Recently I stumbled upon The Sultan Gaming Table. With a price tag of over $8K, it would have to be awesome: but it has little compartments for the players and DM as well as a drop-down playing surface. If you find the pricetag daunting then you are a sane person, and might instead want to look at the Emissary which starts at a "mere" $1,500 and has many of the same features. Honestly I just love the idea of having my minis on a playing surface underneath the dinner table. I ought to be allowed to expense one of these. I also wish they had more pictures and fewer renderings on the site.

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It's Just A Table (3, Insightful)

Obyron (615547) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597240)

Get some first hand experience with carpentry and build yourself one. It's not difficult. Borrow some tools from friends and family if you need to, or possibly neighbors. Tell your friend you have a sheet of MDF or something and that you need to make some cuts with a table saw, and would he mind if you came over and used it for 15 minutes. Treat it as an excuse to socialize. Borrow your father-in-law's miter saw and pay him back with a case of beer. You'll get a lot more than 8500 dollars worth of enjoyment out of the process, for a very small fraction of the price, and you'll still get your geek table. And you'll get a good story out of it. The thing may not turn out perfect. You might have a drawer that sticks or something, but big fucking deal. What's their target audience? Millionaire gamers? Good luck with that.

Re:It's Just A Table (2, Informative)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597274)

Indeed.

I'm doing the same thing with a desk. I've been thinking about getting a tricked-out Ikea Galant setup, but figured out I could build something similar for about 1/4th the cost. When possible, do it yourself...this applies to just about anything. Costs less, you can get EXACTLY what you want, and you get the satisfaction of a job well done.

Re:It's Just A Table (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31597726)

at a similar price tag, you can get windows surface and a copy of http://www.rpgvirtualtabletop.com/

Re:It's Just A Table (0)

Jurily (900488) | more than 4 years ago | (#31598118)

you can get EXACTLY what you want

Or, if you're like me, you'll get EXACTLY what that table looked like the moment you got bored with the idea and went back to programming instead.

Re:It's Just A Table (2, Insightful)

Mister Whirly (964219) | more than 4 years ago | (#31598124)

When possible, do it yourself...this applies to just about anything.

Except surgery.

Re:It's Just A Table (2, Insightful)

twidarkling (1537077) | more than 4 years ago | (#31598242)

You missed the first part:
When possible.

Surgery on yourself is rarely possible :p

Well, unless you're Rambo, then you just need a bullet, some matches, a knife, and some fishing line.

Re:It's Just A Table (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#31598276)

Actually, surgery on yourself with a local anaesthetic is very much possible for a lot of parts of the body. It's a lot easier for things to go badly wrong than if you're doing it on someone else though, which is why it's not done very often. Possible and sensible are two very different things.

Re:It's Just A Table (5, Insightful)

pedestrian crossing (802349) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597398)

Heck, at that price, you could buy all of the tools as well as materials. Really, projects are just excuses to buy tools, right?

Re:It's Just A Table (5, Funny)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597546)

Every morning you wake up breathing is an excuse to buy tools.

Re:It's Just A Table (3, Insightful)

idontgno (624372) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597614)

I don't intend to need even that excuse.

Hmm... where have I heard the phrase "zombie carpenter" before?

Re:It's Just A Table (1)

hoggoth (414195) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597770)

Amen.

Re:It's Just A Table (2, Funny)

jduhls (1666325) | more than 4 years ago | (#31598000)

You've got three days to get to him with your Milwaukee 6523-21 Super Sawzall 13 Amp Reciprocating Saw with Rotating Handle before he rises. After that, 2000 years of world domination!!!

Re:It's Just A Table (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31598292)

Jesus was a carpenter. Jesus came back from the dead. 'nuf said.

Re:It's Just A Table (3, Funny)

Chelloveck (14643) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597404)

Get some first hand experience with carpentry and build yourself one.

But.. But... That won't be Heirloom Quality!

What's their target audience? Millionaire gamers? Good luck with that.

Have you checked the prices of games lately? Won't be long until millionaires are the only people who can afford to game...

"I say, Chauncy, don't roll your solid gold d12 there! You'll scratch my Sultan Table and Wooster will be hours buffing it out."

Re:It's Just A Table (4, Funny)

idontgno (624372) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597702)

But.. But... That won't be Heirloom Quality!

This is Slashdot. How many regulars do you anticipate ever having heirs? (Unless someone perfects budding or full-organism mitosis)

Re:It's Just A Table (1)

zach_the_lizard (1317619) | more than 4 years ago | (#31598184)

Hey, I'm a bacterium, you insensitive clod!

Re:It's Just A Table (3, Insightful)

geekoid (135745) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597752)

In furniture, Heirloom Quality has a pretty specific meaning. It would take years of carpentry expreience to make a tqable like that at that quality level.

They define what they mean:
http://www.geekchichq.com/Theory_Conjecture/Heirloom_Quality/Heirloom_Quality.html [geekchichq.com]

Seriously, you sound like a non geek making fun of USB 3.

Games are not that expensive.

Savage Worlds: 10 bucks for the main book.
DnD 4e retail 34.00 The first Players Handbook in 1978 was 20 bucks. Calculate inflation into that
In 1995, Computer games where 30/40 bucks.
Ticket to ride, 40 bucks: The is the price of equivalent quality board games in the 1980s.

Gaming is not becoming more expensive If anything, it's cheaper.

Re:It's Just A Table (5, Funny)

Mister Whirly (964219) | more than 4 years ago | (#31598198)

Gaming is not becoming more expensive If anything, it's cheaper.

They make the games affordable, but then where they get you is the furniture. Sneaky bastards.

Re:It's Just A Table (2, Interesting)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597966)

A buddy of mine plays with a set of polyhedral dice that cost him $3800.00 for the set. They are cut from meteorites. his D20 cost $450.00 on it's own.

Re:It's Just A Table (2, Insightful)

oldspewey (1303305) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597436)

This may be true to some extent, but I can also report from my own direct first-hand experience that there have been times I've seen an item in the store for what I thought was an exorbitant price, and I decided to build it myself instead. And while I did get the "enjoyment" payoff you mention, after buying all the wood, fasteners, hinges, paint, etc. (not to mention a specialized tool if the project requires one) I sometimes found that I spent as much or more than the "exorbitant" item would have cost in the first place. There are certain economies of scale offered by bulk container ships and million-square-foot factories that a lone handyman working in his garage or basement can never match.

Having said that, the finished product I built by hand always turns out way cooler than any store-bought alternative.

Re:It's Just A Table (1)

Em Emalb (452530) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597668)

Yup, sometimes doing it yourself can cost as much or more than just buying something. But, for a lot of us, the satisfaction garnered in doing it yourself outweighs the financial cost.

I personally love doing things myself. Especially when I complete a project I wasn't sure I was capable of handling when I started out.

Re:It's Just A Table (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597448)

Yes, building a table like that IS difficult, even for experienced carpenters. Did you even look at this thing?

Re:It's Just A Table (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31597510)

Yes, building a table like that IS difficult, even for experienced carpenters. Did you even look at this thing?

I agree. It's incredibly difficult to build a real life table that looks like an artist drawing of said table.

Re:It's Just A Table (1)

iamhassi (659463) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597892)

"Did you even look at this thing?

I agree. It's incredibly difficult to build a real life table that looks like an artist drawing of said table."


No, it's real, as you can see in the photos below, but I agree, it's very strange the website has no real photos of a $8,500 table.
http://www.wraithwerks.net/blog/GenCon%202008%20Photos/Sultan%20Gaming%20Table.jpg [wraithwerks.net]
http://www.purplepawn.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/sultan-gaming-table.jpg [purplepawn.com]
http://www.robotviking.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/sultan01.jpg [robotviking.com]
http://www.saveordieradio.com/storage/photo-755372.jpg [saveordieradio.com]
http://images.forbes.com/media/blogs/images/digitaldownload/images/2008/08/15/sultan_2.jpg [forbes.com]
http://www.robotviking.com/2009/07/08/geek-chic-the-absolute-greatest-gaming-table-ever/ [robotviking.com]
My new Gaming Table: The Emissary from Geek Chic (Picture Heavy) [rpg.net]

Re:It's Just A Table (1)

0100010001010011 (652467) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597654)

And MDF is NOT a hardwood.

Re:It's Just A Table (1)

harl (84412) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597808)

How can you look at it? There are no pictures of it. Just concept renderings. Does it even exist?

Re:It's Just A Table (1)

orsty3001 (1377575) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597554)

America has lost it's craftsmanship. If it's not pre-ordered ready to build, it's not going to happen.

Re:It's Just A Table (3, Insightful)

eln (21727) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597684)

Sure, I could build it, but I hate carpentry and I know from experience I would get no joy out of it. So, if I were the kind of person who was really obsessed with gaming and had $8500 to throw around (I'm not and I don't), I might buy this table. I would certainly not build it, because that would be a huge pain in the ass. Different people have different interests, and carpentry is not one of mine by any stretch of the imagination.

Obviously the market segment for this thing is limited, but the vast selection of furniture stores out there tells me there are plenty of people who would rather pay a premium for furniture to avoid having to build it themselves.

Re:It's Just A Table (1)

ShakaUVM (157947) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597696)

>>Get some first hand experience with carpentry and build yourself one. It's not difficult.

The only B I got in middle school was in woodworking. I did win the award for "Best Citizenship in Woodworking", which was kind of like getting kicked in the nuts for the long drive out to the school awards ceremony.

I've been looking for a gaming table for a while now. If their prices were about half what they are now, I'd probably buy one.

Re:It's Just A Table (1)

pnewhook (788591) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597714)

Why not just buy a pool table? It certainly looks like one.

Re:It's Just A Table (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597942)

And make it a LOT better. Using BOOKS for the DM? How drol. give them a laptop station or better yet a 21" monitor location for reading all the PDF files of every book needed. Plus using decent Virtual tabletop software and camera control for adding in long distance players. Yes this is getting more and more common having a player skype in.

Re:It's Just A Table (1)

Deus.1.01 (946808) | more than 4 years ago | (#31598170)

What you're telling me there arent millionaire nerds?!

Re:It's Just A Table (1)

TheModelEskimo (968202) | more than 4 years ago | (#31598192)

I know a family who would have no problem spending the money on a table like this. They play games all the time, and $8500 for an heirloom-quality piece is nothing to them. They spend about that much on computer hardware every year anyway.

I don't think the owners of this company -- like any other company -- really care that there is an enthusiast market out there that is more than willing to build its own gaming tables. They probably would never match this table, feature-for-feature, anyway.

Re:It's Just A Table (2, Informative)

vlm (69642) | more than 4 years ago | (#31598264)

Tell your friend you have a sheet of MDF or something and that you need to make some cuts with a table saw

The "real thing" is made out of hardwoods instead of particle board. Next time you visit Home Depot or whatever, check the price of some nice chunks of oak. Also realize hardwoods are more expensive/difficult to work with... Given a hammer to start it, large pieces of cheapass pine darn near allow self tapping screws, whereas oak is so tough you'll practically need a metalworking tap set to screw it together.

Leading to my anecdote of the day, last week I was trying to build some model-RR stuff using some Oak (long story why I selected oak). So, a dull made in China home depot drill bit gets hot, seizes in the hole, and twists clean off. It was a shear fracture in a drill press not a "I bent it using my handheld drill". Well OK use the next smallest drill, a 1/32 smaller for pilot holes. Install a cheap made in China home depot screw, its getting a bit tight in there, twist IT off in the hole. Not sure if I should be swearing at China, home depot, or myself, or all three! Thats what you have to look forward to, when working with hardwoods. Now, working in cheapass pine or particle board, you can practically install screws with a hammer, I've seen illegals do that with deck screws, as long as you're careful not to split the wood.

And you'll get a good story out of it.

"So, I rolled a 2d10 to see how many appendages I chopped off, with no saving throw"

A table saw is probably the most dangerous large wood power tool the average person can buy, with the exception of a radial arm saw (are those even sold anymore?). Although it depends how you want to look at it. A jointer table probably won't remove your entire arm and its probably impossible to hurt your leg unless you're really doin it wrong, but it'll take off fingers. On the other hand a table saw is extraordinarily effective at hand and finger amputation. Then theres stuff thats only dangerous when you do something blatantly stupid rather than just bad luck, like stand in the line of fire when running wood thru a planer that occasionally catches and throws the board, although supposedly "that never happens anymore" due to safety stuff. Yeah whatever.

Stop with the Slashvertisement... (2, Insightful)

blahplusplus (757119) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597248)

... thank you.

Re:Stop with the Slashvertisement... (1)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597582)

ymbnh

Re:Stop with the Slashvertisement... (2, Insightful)

AP31R0N (723649) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597674)

Yeah, we don't want to know about things we can buy. Like computers and books and video games and and and....

Re:Stop with the Slashvertisement... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31597800)

But at least the poster has a place to rest his minis. Heh heh heh heh

Make it cooler (3, Insightful)

Tisha_AH (600987) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597266)

What would really be cool is if the table surface was a touch LCD display that you could put digitized maps up on.

Re:Make it cooler (2, Interesting)

oldspewey (1303305) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597480)

A touch-sensitive table-sized LCD gaming surface would be something I'd actually consider spending $8K on.

Re:Make it cooler (1)

idontgno (624372) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597806)

Here you go. [microsoft.com]

Although that's a Microsoft site which is richly laced with Silverlight dependencies, there's some usable content there even with good ol' XHTML 1.0 Transitional.

Re:Make it cooler (1)

minsk (805035) | more than 4 years ago | (#31598048)

Now make it 6x the size, triple the display resolution, add space for your knees, and a whole whack of custom software...

Except that would be a few hundred thousand dollars. Canned technology is not the solution for all problems.

Re:Make it cooler (1)

dyingtolive (1393037) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597496)

For $8500, I would build one before I bought this one. With a cheap projector and some patience, I've priced DIY multitouch tables at less than $1000. If you could actually make a slick interface for the multitouch that did not look like a pain in the ass like all of the ones I've seen thus far, you could probably justify that kind of price.

zerg rush week (1)

Thud457 (234763) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597720)

Has anyone done a projector multitouch system like that with a camera so that you could place an item on the table, the camera captures it and adds it to the virtual environment? Then you'd only need to painstakingly paint one of each of your unit classes, and easily marshal a army of hundreds, thousands, billllllllyeons! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Re:Make it cooler (1)

mikael_j (106439) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597598)

My first thought when I read "$8500 gaming table" was something along the lines of a multitouch "table" that would've been perfect for RTS gaming and various non-gaming tasks. To say I was disappointed when I read the summary and realized that this was just a fairly expensive table would be an understatement.

Insane (0, Redundant)

vikingpower (768921) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597270)

I maniacally voted against this story. This reeks too much of slashvertisement. Is this a slow news day, or what ?

The Sultan on PVP (4, Funny)

Mr_Blank (172031) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597276)

The Sultan was recently featured in a PvP comic classic.

Part 1 [pvponline.com]

Part 2 [pvponline.com]

Part 3 [pvponline.com]

Part 4 [pvponline.com]

Re:The Sultan on PVP (1)

ChinggisK (1133009) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597336)

That would be the Emissary, not the Sultan.

Re:The Sultan on PVP (-1, Troll)

geekoid (135745) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597658)

The down side is that you have to rad the piece of shit comic.

Re:The Sultan on PVP (1)

ArundelCastle (1581543) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597846)

The down side is that you have to rad the piece of shit comic.

Better radding that, than radding your comment.

Re:The Sultan on PVP (1)

Builder (103701) | more than 4 years ago | (#31598092)

Dood - just back off.... He's rad, 'k ?

Re:The Sultan on PVP (1)

kaizokuace (1082079) | more than 4 years ago | (#31598238)

I always liked...cowabunga!

News? (1)

QuantumLeaper (607189) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597284)

I saw that gaming table at GenCon Indy, two or more years ago, and every one thought the price was outrageous.

Re:News? (3, Insightful)

Nadaka (224565) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597514)

If the thing is made from the materials and quality of work that they claim? The price is not that unreasonable. A standard hand crafted cabinet or table made from those materials with old fashioned proper construction will cost thousands of dollars.

Re:News? (1)

Bigbutt (65939) | more than 4 years ago | (#31598112)

Yea, I saw it last year at GenCon Indy and had read a few comments on rpg.net. It looks nice and all but it's really for the folks who are miniature gamers (which is basically what D&D 4E is; minis rules). I do use minis at times for positioning during the game but not throughout the session.

I made my own table for boardgaming, 6' x 6' which works very well. It holds Arkham Horror and all the expansions (so far). And for regular gaming, the three couches and two coffee tables work perfectly.

[John]

Why not mention where you saw it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31597286)

As our way of thanking you for your positive.... (1, Insightful)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597290)

As our way of thanking you for your positive contributions to Slashdot, you are eligible to disable advertising.

Can we have a products section or one labeled as Slavertisements?

Honestly, unless the product is something reviewed on Anandtech or "trusted" computer site it always comes across as if the submitter works for the group in the story.

Nothing New (1)

Frosty Piss (770223) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597744)

Honestly, unless the product is something reviewed on Anandtech or "trusted" computer site it always comes across as if the submitter works for the group in the story.

That's not really different than a lot of the stories - You will find that 60 to 70 percent are submitted by people who work for PC / Info / Tech World or whoever. No real difference here.

Cheap Pool Table = Better Value (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31597310)

Honestly, if a drop down playing surface is such a big deal, why not get a junior sized pool table to play on? In addition to being a cheaper solution for RPG gaming it doubles as...a pool table.

Cool but too expensive (1)

Herkum01 (592704) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597340)

While I am with the "must want one" crowd, the price tag is so outrageous I don't believe that many gamers would ever be able to afford one. Even if cheaper "Emissary" is $1500 for a 4 x 6 table, it is nothing bigger than a basic dinner table.

For price comparisons, look at a decent home pool table like the ones found here [pooltablesdirect.com] . Those are not cheap, they are pretty decent and of much better quality than the "Emissary".

I would love to have one of these tables, but until the price comes down, the slightly reasonable, I don't see these as pickups for the average gamer anytime soon.

You are thinking about it wrong (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597640)

It's a nice piece of furniture. Nice furnitures costs a lot of money.
A high quality dining table will cost several thousand dollars.

Of course, this think is poorly designed in that you can't pull a chair up and sit at it, but to say it's too much for a table is really to generic of a term.

Nice meaning solid wood, well crafted, sturdy and will last someone a life time with some care. Not some Ikea POS.

Re:You are thinking about it wrong (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 4 years ago | (#31598138)

No a high quality dining table wont cost several thousand unless you shop at a furniture store where they rob you. I had solid wood funiture made for me by a master woodworker locally for 1/2 the price of the utter crap they sell at most of the "furniture stores" and mine has real inlays, real wood, and real craftsmanship instead of the machine made MDF core veneered garbage they sell at the fine furniture Botique's

Re:Cool but too expensive (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 4 years ago | (#31598104)

Dude if you look a bit at Ikea you can build one for less than $300.00. Will it be heirloom quality? nope, but knowing the turds I game with neither will the $8900.00 one in 1 years time.

Bolt together some desks and shelf units to a table, add some tall barstool seats... Voila. go to home depot to get your "whiteboard plexi"

Honestly this is quite effortless, I can even make a felt covered insert board for MTG tournaments for less than $50.00

Price tag (2, Insightful)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597344)

If you find the pricetag daunting then you are a sane person

If you don't find it daunting because you live in a fifty million dollar house and drive a hundred thousand dollar car, finding the price tag not daunting doesn't make you insane.

Hell, it hasn't been that long since a decent gaming PC cost that much. Now paying $5000 for a bottle of wine? That marks you as insane even if you're Bill Gates.

Re:Price tag (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597568)

Do you really not get it? seriously? People who pay 5000 Dollars for a bottle of wine are making one of two types of investments:

Long term. They will re-sell it in 10 years for 10,000

Business deal. They will be using it to toast a 100 million dollar deal.
It's like saying spending 5,000 dollars on a Rembrandt is insane because all you're going to do is hang it up in your living room and look at it.

Of course, if you are making millions of dollar in interest on your fortune every day, 5,000 dollars is nothing.

Re:Price tag (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597958)

No, I'm saying buying a $5k bottle of wine to drink is insane, even toasting a business deal. Buying it to later sell at a profit is wise, drinking it is like burning that Rembrandt.

Re:Price tag (1)

radish (98371) | more than 4 years ago | (#31598144)

Some things are enjoyed over an indefinite time (like a painting), some are one-time experiences (like drinking a bottle of wine). I understand some people preferring one to the other, but insanity doesn't come into it. Or are people buying concert tickets insane? Or people going on vacation? The actual cost is beside the point, it's just a value call based on how much the money means to you vs how much the experience means to you.

Re:Price tag (2, Insightful)

chill (34294) | more than 4 years ago | (#31598228)

Yeah, there is a whole category of people who have to be SEEN to be rich, or they aren't happy. Being rich isn't good enough. People have to see you spend absurd amounts of money on non-necessities and blow it off like it was no big deal. These people have a tendency to mention prices a lot, name drop and not-so-subtly brag.

For regular folks, the equivalent is an iPod. iPods aren't for people who like listening to music. They're for people who like to be SEEN listening to music. You see them constantly futzing around with play lists and songs in public. Hell, I've always just set the playlists on my PC, picked what I want to listen to and drop it in my pocket! But that defeats the purpose. I could have just some common MP3 player, and not be cool like the iPod crowd.

Supporting evidence -- the large aftermarket for white Apple or Apple-like earbuds. It makes people THINK you have an iPod in your jacket, so you must be cool.

Ditto Gucci purses, Manolo Blanik shoes, and...wait...did I just describe the entire fashion industry?

PvP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31597350)

I see CmdrTaco reads PvP.

Seen at GenCon (1)

DaRat (678130) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597384)

I saw these at GenCon last year. They are really well made and designed in general though more geared towards RPG play than boardgame or mini play. Pricey, but they are meant to be furniture equal to your nice dining room furniture, not a 2x4 gaming table. The lower surface may require people to reach a bit much though, and I would have liked to have tried one in action.

The slat covers could cause a problem with spilled drinks leaking onto the surface below.

Re:Seen at GenCon (1)

dyingtolive (1393037) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597664)

Do you know how resistant the translucent inlays are? The table I'm using right now has a 6x4 melamine [wikipedia.org] surface on it, which is resistant to everything from dry erase markers to Sharpie, however, it scratches REALLY easy. I'd hate to have shelled out this kind of cash, and then have a divot in part of it the first time a pewter mini gets dropped. I'd also be terrified of drinks around it getting spilled into the table and leaching their way into corners of the drop surface. The other nice thing about the melamine surface is that by design it's the most water resistant thing I've ever come across.

Re:Seen at GenCon (1)

Bigbutt (65939) | more than 4 years ago | (#31598180)

Really? I saw it last year at GenCon as well and with the center hex or 1" square surface I figured it was perfect for Miniature gaming. Especially since you'd have to stand in order to play. Certainly not board games (well not exclusively anyway; you could play on the top but you'd still have to stand) and I know the groups I play with would rather sit on the couches I have in my game room than at the chair and table (which I created for board gaming).

[John]

Not Games (1)

celibate for life (1639541) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597390)

Seriously, I get enough spam in my e-mail account already.

How about no (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31597402)

Stop telling me what I want and don't want. Stop telling me what I should use or not use.

I'm a big boy; just give me the facts and let me decide.

Pool Table (1)

ironicsky (569792) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597468)

Looks like a pool table, without the pockets... Something makes me think that this is a pool table, without the pockets.

For $8000 I'll buy a pool table, with pockets and get a lot more functionality out of it

Re:Pool Table (1)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597670)

You're talking about a straightrail table, or carambole table. I'd rather roll dice on a pocketless table, but to each his own. ;)

That is a horrible gaming table (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597472)

Look at it again, and this time imagine trying to sit up to it in a chair. You Chair can't go unmder the table, and you body would end up beng 2 feet from th table.

Uncomfortable.

Re:That is a horrible gaming table (1)

O('_')O_Bush (1162487) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597570)

From the website:
"Table Height

Standard table height is 29". We find this to be a good fit for most people. People taller than 6' may wish to add an inch or two.

However the height of the table can be any you wish from 12" (if you sit on the floor to eat) to 36" if you want to sit at barstools."

Re:That is a horrible gaming table (1)

SilverJets (131916) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597626)

I think you are supposed to stand around it.

For how long? (1)

JSBiff (87824) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597872)

If you're playing a 2-4 hour (or longer) RPG or tactical/wargame session, do you *really* want to stand for 2 to 4 hours?

I guess it's a good way to make sure your gaming sessions end in a timely manner. . .

Re:That is a horrible gaming table (1)

O('_')O_Bush (1162487) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597638)

Oh, I see, you were referring to the Sultan.

The Emissary can host chairs.

Re:That is a horrible gaming table (1)

hoboroadie (1726896) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597816)

The Emissary should do better sales as most people like to sit when they play. I could imagine the Sultan useful in a Mall Gaming Store, perhaps.

Re:That is a horrible gaming table (1)

cmiller173 (641510) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597648)

Fold down "desks" for each player, you chair doesn't have to go under it.

Do Not Want (1)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597502)

You can't even sit around that thing. When we game, we don't even need a table unless we're going crazy with a big fight scene or a war. Biggest advancement for gaming that I might invest in? A $400 projector to show maps/media, and maybe I might make it a "surface" table by frosting some plexiglass. Tada, digital and china-marker with minis. At least the "cheaper" table looks like you can sit around it (but not with those drawers pulled out).

Re:Do Not Want (1)

basotl (808388) | more than 4 years ago | (#31598164)

At that price I could cut out a normal table and place a 42" LCD in the center to use as a monitor for a table and still have money left over.
For my groups games we just use individual laptops and a virtual gaming table, it's a very flexible solution.

There will be NO SEX on the Emissary! (1)

Keyslapper (852034) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597688)

For those of you not following the PvP webcomic, the Emissary was featured in the last week or so, starting here [pvponline.com] . This was my favorite story line yet.

But the game never ends (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31597694)

when your whole world depends
on the turn of a friendly card.

In other words you have to be successful on other 'gaming tables' to afford this one

No Picture? (1)

harl (84412) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597760)

Where's the picture? They expect people to spend $8500 on spec?

For all we know this is conceptual only. Have they ever made a table?

Give us something other than renders please!

Re:No Picture? (1)

DragonTHC (208439) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597950)

read TFA and see plenty of pics you klodhopper!

Re:No Picture? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31598168)

http://www.geekchichq.com/Co_Store/files/stacks_image_72_1.png

Sucks that they don't have a larger image, but yes they have made them (and brought them to GenCon a few times)

ffs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31597790)

Slow news day much?

heirloom quality? (1)

SamuraiHoedown (1769404) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597836)

More like epic

Nice craftmanship... but (1)

thijsh (910751) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597860)

Sorry, no dice!

You can buy a lot of pinball games for $8500 or (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31597920)

You can buy a lot of pinball games for $8500 or 2-3 new games.

. . . it would have to be Awesome. . . (1)

JSBiff (87824) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597962)

I have in my hands, right now, a blank piece of printer paper. Now, this is no *ordinary* printer paper. It's *Awesome* printer paper. How awesome is it? Well, for only $8500, *it could be yours*! With a price tag of over $8k, it would have to be awesome.

Renderings (1)

esobofh (138133) | more than 4 years ago | (#31597964)

"I also wish they had more pictures and fewer renderings on the site."

Renderings = No customers yet - no one has stepped up to actually buy one so they could take actual pictures of it.

Totally agree with everyone else on the site. Wood working is a fantastic hobby, involving precision planning, math, geometry and all sorts of things you won't account for on your first go. So start small, and build on your experience. In time, you will be able to build a fantastic "heirloom quality" piece you will be proud to say you made.

ta3o (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31597976)

out of bed in the 5haal we? OK!

Pool Table? (1)

Hamsterdan (815291) | more than 4 years ago | (#31598004)

Kinda looks like a modified pool table

Okay, have had one of these in action. (4, Insightful)

Chas (5144) | more than 4 years ago | (#31598150)

Had one of these on loan from the GeekChic guys in our booth at GenCon last year.

VERY
NICE
GAME
TABLE

If I had space and the spare cash to front for one, I'd buy one.

I've seen people ragging about not being able to sit around one. This is what the fold-down desks are for.

I've seen people complaining that the drawers would get in the way. They don't. PERIOD. You don't leave them open during play. The drawers are for storage.

I've seen people ragging on the price. Look at the cost of nice hardwood furniture. And I said NICE. My mother's a friggin' oak fanatic. So I know how pricey this stuff gets.

Their prices are only outrageous when viewed in a vacuum. People are talking about being able to buy the materials and tools for less. Sure. If your labor is worthless and you have already figured out all the joinery and other neat tricks that they've incorporated into one of these tables.

Very likely though, you have not. As such, you're paying a skilled craftsman for labor.

Sure, you can buy a pool table or a folding table for a lot less. But the utility for gaming is also a lot less.

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