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Sprint Unveils HTC Evo 4G Super Phone

CmdrTaco posted more than 4 years ago | from the spec-escalation dept.

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adeelarshad82 writes "Sprint dropped a bombshell on the CTIA Wireless trade show by unveiling the most powerful Google Android smartphone ever seen in the USA, the WiMAX-powered Evo 4G. The phone runs Android 2.1 on a 1-GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8650 chipset along with a helpful 1GB of built-in memory and 512MB of RAM, which is assisted by a MicroSD slot supporting up to 32GB cards. It swaps between EVDO Rev. A, WiMAX and Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g on demand. The phone is dominated by a 4.3-inch, 800-by-480 65,000-color TFT LCD capacitive touch screen. There's an 8-megapixel camera on the back and a 1.3-megapixel unit on the front. The camera also records 720p, high-def video, which it can play through an HDMI out jack on the bottom. The Evo 4G weighs 170g and measures 120.5 mm by 67 mm by 13 mm. It's expected to hit the market in the summer."

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YAY! (-1, Troll)

Em Emalb (452530) | more than 4 years ago | (#31599812)

More advertising on slashdot! Wohoo!

-1 Troll, +1 Truth.

Re:YAY! (-1, Redundant)

Zapotek (1032314) | more than 4 years ago | (#31599938)

This is not some lame phone being advertised...This is actual *news*.
Freaking great news...

*drool* I don't usually get carried away by these things but I WANT ONE! *drool*

Re:YAY! (0)

Em Emalb (452530) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600050)

Sorry, this is an advertisement. You may like said advertisement, but that doesn't mean it isn't one.

Re:YAY! (1)

YouWantFriesWithThat (1123591) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600110)

and conversely, just because you don't like the news article about a gadget doesn't make it an advertisement.

Re:YAY! (5, Insightful)

NeutronCowboy (896098) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600338)

Let me clarify the situation for you: every single story on slashdot can be qualified as advertisement. Every. Single. One. That story about WoW reaching 10M+ players? Advertisement for Blizzard. That story about some guy building a bender robot? Advertising for said guy. That story about a fork in the Linux kernel? Advertising for Linux.

Pointing out that something getting front-page billing on Slashdot is good advertisement for said something is like pointing out the Sun is shining on the Earth: true, but not really useful information. Now, if you would have evidence that Sprint paid CmdrTaco to run this story, this would be an entirely different proposition. However, until you do, you're little more than a blowhard who likes playing Captain Obvious.

Re:YAY! (4, Insightful)

spun (1352) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600100)

In many confidence games, the 'con man' will use 'shills' or assistants who pretend to be independently interested in the swindle or scam. In modern marketing, it is fairly common for companies to identify natural leaders and people with influence, and offer to pay them to fake spontaneous endorsement of the product. Given those facts, any news or commentary relating to commercially available products must be viewed with a healthy amount of skepticism.

Re:YAY! (3, Insightful)

amicusNYCL (1538833) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600262)

That's true, but regardless of whether or not this is meant as advertising, the introduction of a phone like this into the US market is also certainly newsworthy. The two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.

Re:YAY! (0, Troll)

spun (1352) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600524)

And I never said it wasn't newsworthy in it's own right. Personally, I couldn't care less about this phone or mobile connectivity in general. But I understand this new phone will give some geeks a stiffy, and that's fine too. If you enjoy that sort of thing you and your fellow enthusiasts can circle-jerk over this techno-fetish item all you like. But the fellow next to you, bubbling and gushing his hot man-phone love all over your ears, may in fact be a paid professional. Which may make it all the hotter for you, I'm not really sure how these things work.

Re:YAY! (1)

cheesybagel (670288) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600448)

Who cares? This is awesome hardware! I mean large high resolution screen while still pocketeable, WiMAX, HDMI video out, microUSB, MicroSD, two cameras and Android! It's fantastic. This is IMO more major news than the iPad. No wonder Apple is suing HTC. Their current hardware cannot compete!

Re:YAY! (1)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600446)

Yes, someone at Sprint finally woke up and realized they have a range full of boring-ass phones, and even the Palm Pre couldn't save them. Glad to see Sprint has finally joined the 21st century with this phone. I'll still never switch back to them though :P

Wow. (1)

andrea.sartori (1603543) | more than 4 years ago | (#31599844)

Also, their marketing director said "philosophically, we've been very aggressive about mobile broadband." Besides being "philosophically aggressive"... will it be able to make coffee as well?

Re:Wow. (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600394)

And yet you still cant install apps to the sd card. Come on Android, stop being paranoid and let us install the damn apps on the sd card

Re:Wow. (1)

Zach978 (98911) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600444)

Why would you want to install apps to the SD card? This thing has 1 GB of ROM!!

Voice? (2, Interesting)

ArhcAngel (247594) | more than 4 years ago | (#31599856)

"It swaps between EVDO Rev. A, WiMAX and Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g on demand"

Does this apply to calls as well as data? If so it is even more awesome than I originally thought.

Re:Voice? (4, Informative)

ircmaxell (1117387) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600112)

Well, yes and no. Voice still goes out over CDMA. What this means to you though, is that when voice is using CDMA, EVDO can't operate (since it uses the same radio). However, it can still use WiMAX and 802.11... So you can use voice and data at the same time, but only if you're in the range of either WiMAX or 802.11... Cool, but not groundbreaking (yet).

Re:Voice? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31600264)

It would be even better if you were on a VOIP call over WiMAX and traveled out of range, into range of a WiFi hot-spot that your phone had the key for, and dynamically rerouted the VOIP call.

Re:Voice? (1)

slimjim8094 (941042) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600292)

Voice and data at the same time is nothing new. All flavors of GSM 3G can do it, and even EDGE can pause data transfers (while retaining connections) when on a voice call.

Simultaneous voice and data on cell networks has been around for 8 years. Does Sprint/Verizon not have this?

Re:Voice? (1)

jollespm (641870) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600350)

The CDMA technology that Sprint/Verizon use do not allow simultaneous voice and data connections, hence the latest AT&T/iPhone commercials.

Re:Voice? (1)

amicusNYCL (1538833) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600300)

Well, yes and no.

So then the answer is no. No, EVDO, WiMAX, and Wi-Fi do not apply to voice, since voice goes over CDMA. EVDO, WiMAX, and Wi-Fi are for transferring data, and EVDO will not run if you're using CDMA.

Re:Voice? (2, Insightful)

rm999 (775449) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600438)

"So you can use voice and data at the same time"

According to http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/htc-evo-4g-is-sprints-android-powered-knight-in-superphone-armo/ [engadget.com] , Sprint says it is "still in the testing phase". Not sure what this means, but it sounds like they haven't proven it is possible in their current design (or just bad PR).

My guess is it will end up being a pretty high priority.

Re:Voice? (1)

NonUniqueNickname (1459477) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600326)

Does this apply to calls as well as data?

From TFA: "it will make all voice calls over Sprint's CDMA 1X network". So no.
Probably no simultaneous voice and data either, as is generally the case with Sprint.
Probably won't work as a phone outside the USA because it's not GSM.

HDMI jack? (4, Funny)

Anonymusing (1450747) | more than 4 years ago | (#31599860)

A phone that records 720p video and plays it out via an HDMI jack? WHY?

Re:HDMI jack? (3, Insightful)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 4 years ago | (#31599956)

A phone that records 720p video and plays it out via an HDMI jack? WHY?

You seem to be complaining about the HDMI port. If your phone can record HD video, why WOULDN'T you want to be able to play that on a big display?

Re:HDMI jack? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31599964)

Because.

Re:HDMI jack? (1)

Dracos (107777) | more than 4 years ago | (#31599968)

This was my first thought also. Why bother keeping the analog hole closed on video that the user owns? HDMI is no person's friend.

Re:HDMI jack? (1)

Z34107 (925136) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600156)

Using an HDMI jack doesn't mean all the video you take on your phone is automagically DRM'd. I'm not sure why you're objecting.

Do you suggest to fit a component jack onto a 4"x2" phone and then match it with an RCA stereo jack?

Re:HDMI jack? (1)

red_dragon (1761) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600356)

Do you suggest to fit a component jack onto a 4"x2" phone and then match it with an RCA stereo jack?

What d'you mean, like on an iPhone [apple.com] ? That's crazy talk!

Re:HDMI jack? (1)

Z34107 (925136) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600478)

I would much rather have a small, standard connector than a larger, proprietary connector.

Still not sure why that's a better solution than putting an HDMI connector.

Re:HDMI jack? (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600160)

HDMI does not have to use HDCP. I am typing this on my media center PC running ubuntu 9.10 connected to my HDTV via HDMI. Having 1 less cable and not having to worry about ground loops on the audio is a real benefit.

HDMI is nothing more than DVI and digital audio in the same cable.

Re:HDMI jack? (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600168)

Actually I am running 10.04, forgot I updated that last week.

Re:HDMI jack? (1)

Isaac-Lew (623) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600242)

I have a Samsung Instinct HD on Sprint. You can copy videos to/from the phone & play them (on the phone or on an HD display) without any restrictions that I can see.

Re:HDMI jack? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31600346)

Er. HDMI is just a more robust connector for DVI bundled with digital audio. It's just a way to connect digital video sources to screens. You're thinking of the abomination that is HDCP.

You know what? A built in HDMI socket sure beats Apple's proprietary docking connector and eye wateringly expensive component video leads.

Besides, I expect that if you want to get your videos off this device you could use USB or Bluetooth, or memory card reader or even run an FTP server and pull them over WiFi.

Re:HDMI jack? (1)

Zach978 (98911) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600480)

I'm sure the video file will be sitting on your device's SD card...not that hard to plug in your phone via usb and download it.

Re:HDMI jack? (1)

0100010001010011 (652467) | more than 4 years ago | (#31599982)

1) Porn & Sexting.
2) Policing the police state. How many photos/videos have we seen released in recent years of police abusing their power? Stuff that would have just been your word vs his in the past. Shoving kids off skate boards, body checking bicyclists, etc.

I was the last person that wanted a camera on my phone. I just wanted a (*&3@ phone. That camera phone saved my ass from insurance when someone ran a red light and made up a whole lot of false claims.

Even if 99.99% of the stuff generated on the phone is useless, It's that extra 0.01% that shows a major disaster unfolding (9/11), gets the word out about what is happening (Iran Elections), etc that I'm interested in.

Re:HDMI jack? (1)

Andy Dodd (701) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600132)

I almost never use the camera in my phone. Maybe 2-3 times a year - the quality is just not even remotely close to my standards.

However, sometimes you just have an "oh shit" situation where you REALLY wish you had a camera, even a shitty one.

(I'm lucky in that my company now permits cameraphones as long as you take an online training course from the company intranet, which basically says "don't use the camera function on company grounds")

Re:HDMI jack? (1)

TheKidWho (705796) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600002)

Sorry, I guess they should have included an Apple proprietary jack 2.0 to make it seem more cool!

Re:HDMI jack? (1)

Kotoku (1531373) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600034)

For America!

Re:HDMI jack? (1)

game kid (805301) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600082)

I know, right? They should've went the extra inch, and make it record 1080p and play it out via 75-ohm coax, DisplayPort, and twitter. Wimps.

Re:HDMI jack? (1)

Impsyn (1663137) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600084)

A phone that records 720p video and plays it out via an HDMI jack? WHY?

Presumably one could playback not only the videos they personally record using the built in camera but also videos that they have loaded into the phone. For travelers that means if you can find something with HDMI-in (television, monitor or projector) you can watch your videos/movies on something a little more accommodating than the 4.3 inch screen. Combo a unit like this with a lightweight projector and I can see a lot of value for those who do business presentations.

Re:HDMI jack? (1)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600106)

A phone that records 720p video and plays it out via an HDMI jack? WHY?

Because its a handheld computer/digital camcorder/phone combination unit for people who want to do lots of things, but don't want to carry lots of gadgets.

If the question is "why HDMI?", my guess is the reason is "because HDMI is what you can most count on being supported on HDTVs, which are the most likely thing people are going to want to plug in their phone to play their 720p videos on" (for computers, presumably, they'll just download the video to the computer.)

Re:HDMI jack? (1)

jollespm (641870) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600416)

Apparently there are still a few features that haven't been announced yet. One speculation is a possible deal bundling Nextflix (or similar) functionality where one would presumably use the WiMAX connection to stream movies on demand to the phone. It would only make sense that you could then output to your HDTV.

Battery life? (3, Interesting)

WiiVault (1039946) | more than 4 years ago | (#31599884)

Looks really cool and feature packed, but I wonder if it will last a resonable amount of time on a single charge? If you ask me only in the last year or so have 3G radios become efficient enough to be usefull daylong in something like a phone. If WiMax/"4G" is like early 3G headsets it will likely last an unreasonably short amount of time on a charge. But hey if I'm wrong sign me up!

Re:Battery life? (1)

MrEricSir (398214) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600020)

Don't worry, it's powered by Orbo.

Re:Battery life? (1)

jwietelmann (1220240) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600028)

I read somewhere (sorry, no source link) that WiMax radios should theoretically require less power than current 3G technologies. If this thing takes a hit in battery life, it's probably because it uses both 3G and 4G radios (unless the software's really smart about turning one off when the other has good signal). Of course, if your new 4G speeds cause you to go nuts and start downloading huge torrents on-the-go, then the energy consumption of the radio is probably the least of your battery-draining concerns.

Re:Battery life? (1)

e2d2 (115622) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600434)

Slow down Tex. We'll need a credit check and a sample of your DNA first.

4G only (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31599904)

4G only means it will not work at all on the majority of the existing network.
Still neat if you are on a part of the network that will support the video calls/wave of the future.

Re:4G only (5, Funny)

MrEricSir (398214) | more than 4 years ago | (#31599940)

Actually the "4G" refers to the price. I hope they have a payment plan.

Wrong - Re:4G only (2, Informative)

RocketJeff (46275) | more than 4 years ago | (#31599976)

From the article - "The Evo 4G will swap between 3G and WiMAX for data depending on what's available; it will make all voice calls over Sprint's CDMA 1X network."

Re:4G only (1, Redundant)

Kotoku (1531373) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600012)

No, it drops back to existing standards. If you understand the tech specs in the article it is pretty obvious. Do you think when 3G came out that phones ONLY worked on the few towers that supported that specific standard? No way!

Re:4G only (0, Redundant)

bcong (1125705) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600042)

per TFA, ..."swapping between EVDO Rev. A, WiMAX and Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g on demand." and "The Evo 4G will swap between 3G and WiMAX for data depending on what's available" It works just fine on the marketing networks such as 3g and 4g, and on the networks everyone else knows and loves, ev-do rev. A and wimax

Re:4G only (0, Redundant)

Chris Mattern (191822) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600210)

That it would be true if it was 4G only. Apparently the words "switchable on demand to EVDO Rev. A" did not penetrate for you.

One flaw... (0, Flamebait)

Nov Voc (1619289) | more than 4 years ago | (#31599952)

Estimated battery life: The amount of time it takes YouTube to load that shiny new HDMI video for you.

Re:One flaw... (5, Funny)

Kotoku (1531373) | more than 4 years ago | (#31599990)

What? That doesn't even..I can't...you...

HDMI is a plug. Youtube has a matter replicator in my house now?

Re:One flaw... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31600068)

Not YouTube, silly. Google does. They've been busy.

Re:One flaw... (1)

dancingmilk (1005461) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600192)

It would appear that an idiot /. troll has made your brain explode with raw stupidity. Its OK, this happens a lot around here, we can fix it. Just go outside and get some fresh air (and perspective). Your brain will recover in time.

Re:One flaw... (0, Troll)

Nov Voc (1619289) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600204)

I think you're confusing buzzwords with technical terms. Buzzwords can be used to enhance the intelligence of a statement regardless of grammatical context or intended meaning! HDMI! EVDO! Capacitive touch screen! Snapdragon!

Also: Two hours sleep. Your pick.

important features? (1)

bl8n8r (649187) | more than 4 years ago | (#31599954)

How bout battery life? It's great having all that power, but if it only stays running 6 hours between charges it's just a desk brick. No mention of multi-touch/tasking? itards will be whining for that if you're trying to horn into the apple market.

Re:important features? (1)

SkinnyKid63 (1104787) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600584)

It's Android, it has multitasking like all other Android phones. The hardware also has multi-touch capability so multi-touch apps will work. Battery issue is a valid concern, although Sprint claims it will be competitive.

Memory or storage? (1)

clang_jangle (975789) | more than 4 years ago | (#31599962)

a helpful 1GB of built-in memory and 512MB of RAM

That should read "1 GB of storage built-in and 512MB of RAM", shouldn't it?

Re:Memory or storage? (2, Insightful)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600578)

That should make you question the accuracy of the rest of the entire article.

Amazing (0, Redundant)

Kotoku (1531373) | more than 4 years ago | (#31599974)

I, for one, welcome our new HD Video Recording, 720p over HDMI, kick stand in the back, 4+" screen, snapdragon processor having, 4G blazing, media center staple overlords.

Re:Amazing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31600048)

At any point during the typing of that lengthy post, did you pause to reflect on whether it was the slightest bit funny?

Also.. (4, Funny)

AnotherShep (599837) | more than 4 years ago | (#31599984)

The expected battery life is 20 minutes of standby or 5 minutes of talk. A replacement high-capacity battery adds 104g to the weight of the unit, 20mm to the depth, and extends standby time to 68 minutes and talk time to over 10 minutes.

Re:Also.. (1)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600274)

> ...talk time to over 10 minutes.

Or two hours if you add a whip antenna, but no smartphoney would ever do that.

Game Changer! (3, Interesting)

suraj.sun (1348507) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600000)

to put it simply, it's a game changer for Sprint.

Re:Game Changer! (1)

characterZer0 (138196) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600328)

Only if you live in a large city and never want coverage when you are traveling.

Re:Game Changer! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31600408)

Which is the vast majority of people in the US.

Re:Game Changer! (2, Informative)

wolrahnaes (632574) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600474)

Yea, because dropping back to 3G coverage with a 100% roaming agreement with Verizon/Alltel and US Cellular is such a pain....

This device really makes the Nexus One on the Sprint network all but irrelevant, since it seems it will be available around the same time and has all the specs either equal or better.

Re:Game Changer! (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600396)

It could be a game changer for Sprint. The reviewer only commented on all the geek technical specs. The reviewer didn't review it for actual usability. Most consumers care about usability first, app availability, coverage, etc. Technical specifications are at the bottom of that list. The only thing the reviewer did say was that it was fast but the network connection wasn't on.

Re:Game Changer! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31600482)

Getting away from CDMA like the majority of the world and their competition would be a game changer.

Re:Game Changer! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31600566)

Is it also an iPhone killer?

Not made by Apple? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31600044)

FAIL.

Two very important points missing: (3, Interesting)

jandrese (485) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600066)

1. What is the battery life.
2. What is the price.

I'm slightly concerned that this will be like those Japanese or European phones that have a huge laundry list of features, but skimp out on basic usability and essentials like good radio paths and battery life; plus half of the features don't work properly (camera has a lot of pixels, but a worthless lens; screen is dim or difficult to read; interface requires 15 button presses to do anything; front camera can't be used for teleconferencing because the carrier disabled that feature, etc...). There's a definite concern that this will be priced at the "enthusiast" level as well, meaning almost nobody can afford it or the plan required to drive it.

The ball is in your court Sprint. What are you going to do with it?

Re:Two very important points missing: (1)

Threni (635302) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600502)

These smartphones all seem to have similar (ie circa 1 day) battery lifes, and that includes the iPhone which is neither Japanese nor European. This phone looks a little like (what is in the UK name) Desire (same resolution but slightly higher screen; same cpu as far as I can tell), and that sells for £440 sim-free here. Online comparisons say the Desire has a brighter, clearer screen - I've seen no phones where the screen is too dim.

It's a TELEPHONE (-1, Redundant)

LtGordon (1421725) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600080)

1-GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8650 chipset ... 1GB of built-in memory ... 512MB of RAM ... 8-megapixel camera on the back ... 1.3-megapixel unit on the front ... also records 720p, high-def video, which it can play through an HDMI out jack on the bottom.

Sounds like every geeks wet dream. And yet I can't help but think to myself ... this is a telephone. This is device whose primary purpose is to facilitate verbal communication.

Oblig: [xkcd.com] "What if I want something more than the pale facsilime of fulfillment brought by a paradise of ever-fancier toys?"

Re:It's a TELEPHONE (4, Insightful)

Deosyne (92713) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600182)

Perhaps you'll find more utility in the tools that you purchase if you stop thinking about them in terms of what a marketer told you and what its potential actually is.

Re:It's a TELEPHONE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31600240)

Plenty of geeks have no interest in gadgets or uninteresting webcomics.

Re:It's a TELEPHONE (2, Interesting)

bcong (1125705) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600252)

No it's not. If you'd like a mobile telephone I suggest a less capable model such as any of the cheaper motorola models, such as the i776 [nextel.com] . If you are looking for a PDA or mobile media center which happens to also have cellphone capabilities then this is probably for you.

Re:It's a TELEPHONE (2, Funny)

alen (225700) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600270)

silly, no one talks on the phone anymore. you use a telephone to read email, twitter, facebook and the rest of the internets

Re:It's a TELEPHONE (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600380)

silly, no one talks on the phone anymore. you use a telephone to read email, twitter, facebook and the rest of the internets

Then, exactly, just what are those people doing driving around with the phones plastered to their ears? Using their earlobes to keyboard? Taking pictures of their ear rings for some twisted facebook site? Twittering the voices inside their skulls?

It's pretty scary in my universe. God help me to stay away from yours....

Re:It's a TELEPHONE (1)

CohibaVancouver (864662) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600358)

this is a telephone. This is device whose primary purpose is to facilitate verbal communication

Not any more. These devices are largely small(ish) wireless computers with touch-screen interfaces. I don't have an iLeash, but my friends who do appear to use them as 'computers' much more than they use them for verbal communications. Sure, they allow for verbal comms, but it's only one of many features.

Re:It's a TELEPHONE (1)

oodaloop (1229816) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600364)

Its ancestors were phones. This thing is more evolved.

Re:It's a TELEPHONE (1)

D Ninja (825055) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600376)

Sounds like every geeks wet dream. And yet I can't help but think to myself ... this is a telephone. This is device whose primary purpose is to facilitate verbal communication.

That's where you're wrong. None of these smart phones are telephones anymore. They are computers (handheld and less powerful computers than our desktops, but computers nonetheless) that HAPPEN to make telephone calls. Honestly, phone calls are the thing I do the least on my Droid. I'm on travel quite a bit and being able to get to my e-mails, have a GPS to help me find the locations of my hotels and meetings, and also be able to enjoy some entertainment on flights has been awesome.

So, my advice (not that you asked for it) is to think about the phone as another integration into an "always on, always connected" world. Things are going to keep moving in that direction. For example, I am looking forward to my refrigerator being connected to the internet, being able to look at a list of items that I want to keep in stock, noticing when I'm running out of those items, and then sending a message to my local grocery store which will bring by the groceries for me and then bill it automatically. Years down the road, but that type of convenience would be awesome.

Re:It's a TELEPHONE (1)

The Dancing Panda (1321121) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600382)

Sir, that hasn't been the primary purpose of these machines for years.

Well... (1)

CSHARP123 (904951) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600114)

Everybody questioning about its battery life in here, listen, we have provided a mobile battery charger just keep shaking [treehugger.com] it will charge.

The *best* feature: (3, Interesting)

ThreeGigs (239452) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600172)

FTA:

"It works as a Wi-Fi hotspot, supporting up to 8 devices;"

Wow! That's insane, considering that laptop wireless sharing is only now just becoming mainstream.

How many people will buy this phone, and ditch dsl, cable, etc? Smaller than any dsl or cable box, uses less power too I'd bet.

Re:The *best* feature: (1)

amicusNYCL (1538833) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600390)

Smaller than any dsl or cable box, uses less power too I'd bet.

And probably only costs about 8x as much. You expect people to replace their internet connection with a phone? I'll just point out that won't work for anyone who lives in a household containing more than one person and doesn't want to buy a dedicated phone to act as their gateway. For anyone living alone, maybe that would be an option, but it sort of sucks that if you lose your phone you also lose your internet connectivity at home.

Re:The *best* feature: (1)

D Ninja (825055) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600462)

How many people will buy this phone, and ditch dsl, cable, etc? Smaller than any dsl or cable box, uses less power too I'd bet.

Might not be a bad idea. Data speeds of 4G (according to Wikipedia) should be somewhere in the range of 275 Mbit/s downstream and over 75 Mbit/s upstream. Of course, it also depends if companies are going to allow for "unlimited" data plans.

Re:The *best* feature: (1)

Jeng (926980) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600464)

And with an HDMI port to boot. Could be the lowest power and smallest home theater device.

Re:The *best* feature: (1)

dingen (958134) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600490)

How many people will buy this phone, and ditch dsl, cable, etc?

Even the best mobile connections are godawfully slow and have insanely high latencies compared with even modest wired broadband connections. You'll only switch if you absolutely don't care about the speed of your internet connection.

No hardware keyboard... (3, Insightful)

Rew190 (138940) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600230)

Too bad there's no hardware keyboard on this beast. I can't stand using touchscreen keyboards. Hopefully this isn't becoming the norm.

Eh (5, Funny)

teknopurge (199509) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600256)

Slower than a Cray. Less storage than a ZFS SAN. Lame.

Re:Eh (1)

e2d2 (115622) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600518)

Oh come on mods. Even I, the Lord of Curmudgeon and Admiral of the Irascible and Cantankerous, laughed at that one.

Yup, i'm going for a word score.

can you install more than 5 apps to it? (-1, Offtopic)

alen (225700) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600294)

there is more to a smart phone than email and constant searches on Google. Iphone ships with local storage and a nice SDK. Android would be a lot better if Google hadn't crippled the app capability so you are forced to do everything online

Re:can you install more than 5 apps to it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31600370)

I've got a Nexus One that has half the app ram size of this phone and I've installed dozens of apps and only used a fraction of the available space. Yes, the iPhone ships with "local storage" but then you are limited to only that storage. Want more space? GET A NEW PHONE! Fuck that. As for their "nice SDK", it's only "nice" if you own a Mac and are happy with their arbitrary and unfair approval process. Come up with an app that even remotely threatens Apple's bottom line in any way, and you are out on your ass. Fuck Apple, and fuck the iPhone.

Super Phone? Aw, come on. (2, Insightful)

dingen (958134) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600324)

We aren't calling Dell's latest machines "super computers" either, so there's really no need to name new phones with up-to-date specs "super phones". It's technology. New devices with faster hardware and more features are going to come out. Every new phone will be a "super phone", because that's how the market works. This phone will be deprecated in a year or so, just like every other IT toy.

And in related news no one here cares about... (1)

toadlife (301863) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600392)

T-Mobile released the HTC HD2 today.

Here is a superficial comparison [intomobile.com] of the Evo to the HD2.

For Windows Mobile fans like me who are not happy with the the direction Microsoft is going with WF7, the HD2 seems to be the last Hurrah for Windows Mobile 6.x series before we are forced to walk the plank and jump to another platform.

This is what the Instinct HD should have been (1)

Isaac-Lew (623) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600418)

At the least, the Instinct HD should have been Android-based. Thankfully, I'm eligible for a new phone in October, the HTC Evo is at the top of my list.

what about the battery? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31600450)

I heard that many of the new android based phones last less than couple hours. I am curious how much time you can use/keep it in stand by keeping in mind that has a nicer cpu/screen.

+1 for the tag of 'holy shit' (1)

carlcmc (322350) | more than 4 years ago | (#31600510)

I chuckled when I saw someone had added that tag. That was my reaction too.
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