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Warner Brothers Hiring Undercover Anti-Pirates

samzenpus posted more than 4 years ago | from the WB-privateers dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "TorrentFreak reports that Warner Brothers UK is hiring college students with an IT background to participate in an internship that will pit them against pirates on the Web in an effort to crack down on illegal digital distribution. The intern will literally be on the front-lines of the epic battle against pirated content, ensnaring users in incriminating transactions, issuing takedown requests, and causing general frustration amongst the file-sharing population on the Internet."

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My only question is... (3, Funny)

bit9 (1702770) | more than 4 years ago | (#31663990)

Where are all the anti-anti-pirates?

Re:My only question is... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664060)

right ahead of the anti-anti-anti-pirates.

Shouldn't that be ... (3, Funny)

Ungrounded Lightning (62228) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664280)

anti-anti pirate-pirate-pirates?

(Look, Natasha! Is moose and squirrel!)

Re:Shouldn't that be ... (0, Offtopic)

lessthanpi (1333061) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664486)

A Møøse once bit my sister...

No realli! She was Karving her initials on the møøse with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given her by Svenge - her brother-in-law - an Oslo dentist and star of many Norwegian møvies: "The Høt Hands of an Oslo Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", "The Huge Mølars of Horst Nordfink"...

Re:My only question is... (4, Interesting)

sopssa (1498795) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664094)

It's not a competition. What they should do is offer Spotify [wikipedia.org] like service for movies all around the world, not just in US, and either ad-supported version or $10-$19 per month paid subscription with perks like PS3 and mobile streaming and so on. After Spotify came around 1.5 years ago people haven't had a need to pirate MP3's anymore. It's actually nicer to use than P2P - that's something that movie industry needs to have to combat piracy (hopefully Voddler [wikipedia.org] will get there). When the service works good and is reasonably priced, you win a lot of customers.

Re:My only question is... (3, Interesting)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664170)

Spotify is not available in most of the world. Only 6 countries and no linux client. I would rather just buy non-drmed music.

Re:My only question is... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664310)

and no linux client.

Yeah, that's because they are targeting people who will actually pay money. Not basement dwellers who still get allowances from their parents.

Re:My only question is... (1)

sopssa (1498795) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664322)

It's a good example of a well done solution to combat piracy, and which is actually more convenient and better than P2P. I'm sure they will try to expand, they've had plans for US for a long time now. Also, their client works perfectly under Wine. With subscription you can also use Despotify [wikipedia.org] and other third party clients (theres some made for Windows Mobile at least)

Re:My only question is... (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664186)

Voddler also infringes on the copyrights of the XBMC developers, not a good sign for a company that wants to make money from copyrights.

Re:My only question is... (1)

sopssa (1498795) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664238)

They were going to provide all the front-end source code, but it looks like they've moved Flash based streaming now. Which is a good thing, that older client was pain in the ass to use on any other kind of computer than a media center.

Re:My only question is... (5, Insightful)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664306)

They were going too is no excuse, they still have not.
They still violated the copyrights of the XBMC developers and then expect to make money from copyrights. They are hypocrites who believe in copyright when it is good for them and not when it does not suit them. These are not the sort of folks people should give money to.

Re:My only question is... (2, Interesting)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664354)

They are hypocrites who believe in copyright when it is good for them and not when it does not suit them.

But are they much worse than the major motion picture studios, which moved to Hollywood just to be out of range of Thomas Edison's patent goons?

Re:My only question is... (3, Insightful)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664392)

Nope just the same. Mind you most folks don't know about that either, and the people who moved the studios are long dead.

Re:My only question is... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664446)

You're a faggot. Go gobble $tallman's dick somewhere else.

Re:My only question is... (1)

evdubs (708273) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664496)

Looks like some of the anti-pirates made it to slashdot already.

Re:My only question is... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664580)

Nope, I'm a pirate. A pirate of GPL code. Suck on that, faggot. I steal GPL code and put it in tons of closed source apps that I write. You faggots will never be able to do shit about it either.

Re:My only question is... (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664302)

those would be the interns that end up posting information from these companies on wikileaks showing that they are doing illegal things... ah to the companies that think us geeks care about company loyalty... yeah you pay their cheques... and yeah, we can get cheques elsewhere

Re:My only question is... (2, Insightful)

westlake (615356) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664556)

yeah you pay their cheques... and yeah, we can get cheques elsewhere

tell me why your new employer should trust you after you betrayed your old employer.

tell me why he keeps you around after he's pumped you dry of anything useful you could tell him.

tell me how you stop the word spreading around that you are high maintaince, high risk.

Re:My only question is... (3, Interesting)

mmelson (441923) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664416)

Where are all the anti-anti-pirates?

On 4chan. May as well give them something productive to do.

A fools errand (5, Insightful)

downix (84795) | more than 4 years ago | (#31663994)

Rather than exploit the free publicity and growth of revenue, they fight against the rising tides with their swords. If the movie and music industries collapse, it will not be due to piracy, but anti-piracy.

They will not collapse! (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664168)

The book industry has not collapsed since the e-books became common have they ? Or the music industry with the advent of i-tunes ?

Some one has to spend money to create movies like Titanic and Avatar - and then to market them. After spending so much money, it makes no sense to give it away for free - even to Slashdot readers.

Basically what you are asking is for McDonalds to give you a burger free cos you will then go and tell your friends to come and eat there. They probably will agree if they think you have the clout among your friends to influence their actions (such as popular bloggers). But if you are just some guy who basically wants stuff free.... no reason to give it away. The primary problem with giving it away is that human nature, by default, wants stuff free.

There is no reason to give away movies or music - if microsoft doesnt have to give away Office or windows!!

Re:They will not collapse! (0)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664338)

Burgers have an fixed cost on each unit, once the film is edited all future copies are free save for network costs, which with p2p they do not pay.

They will need to fight this by offering a better product, maybe through lower price or through real improvements. Lawsuits and threats will not help them.

Re:They will not collapse! (3, Insightful)

teh moges (875080) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664470)

That makes sense if someone is willing to pay $100 million for the first copy of the movie. A more reasonable suggestion would be that once a movie starts to profit, they allow free copies to be distributed. Even then, there is an issue of making an overall profit as some movies fail, and what the level of 'enough profit'. I am completely against many of the claims and practises that the *AAs perform (download != sale, poor profits given to recording artists), but they release a product under a set of conditions. If you don't like those conditions, don't get the product. Eventually free market forces will allow the studios that make the best use of the Internet to profit and the rest will catch on. Yes they have a near-monopoly on the industry and they advertise particularly well, but people lived perfectly well before Avatar came out, so if you don't want to pay to see it, you don't have to see it right away. Wait until the movie is showed with advertising for free or don't even see it at all.

Re:They will not collapse! (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664514)

You are reading too much into my comment. I was not proposing they give the movies away only invalidating the ACs comment.

Re:A fools errand (0, Troll)

stonewallred (1465497) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664342)

I got a notice from TWC the other day saying I was downloading copyrighted material. I responded with an email and a phone call demanding to know who was monitoring my downloads, and under what court order they were doing sd. I also accused them of giving my data to unauthorized people. They started backpedaling and stammering, switching me to eight different drones. Finally one said they had received a notice from an unnamed company(to me that is). I demanded to know who the company was and wanted to appeal the notice and threat it contained. In the end I got want I wanted. An email from TWC stating the notification I received was issued in error and that I was not suspected nor accused of downloading any copyrighted material. I saved it on a thumbdrive and fired utorrent back up to finish DLing the entire collection of South Park season 9. Fuck copyright. They broadcast these shows over the fucking airwaves for free and complain about me downloading a copy. Fuck their mothers, wives, daughters and fucking dogs too.

Re:A fools errand (1)

Threni (635302) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664408)

The squeaky wheel gets oiled. You've probably just placed yourself at the top of the `get rid of this guy` list, and if you are pirating stuff then expect a full log of your ip address and the torrents/files you've been uploading to the copyright holders. They don't need to tell you anything - all that stuff will come out in court.

Re:A fools errand (1)

DeWinterZero (1757754) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664442)

Giving up and offering a lower priced flim ticket or cd wont work either because free will always trump x$ (whatever cost it takes to make a product and give you the money to make another one).

Re:A fools errand (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664542)

Not if $x includes something else like say the shiny box to put on my shelf. I could see downloading a movie and paying $5 just for the shiny box.

Doh! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664002)

I just got a notice from NBC/Universal saying that I infringed their copyright by downloading and sharing a TV show. This means there will be even more people working against me?! Damn...

Re:Doh! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664614)

Next time watch Leno live, rather than downloading it. When you download it it means less money to spend on the #1 Talk Show host in America. Quality like Leno doesn't come cheap you know.

It's A Fight To The Death ... (2, Informative)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664012)

... on the swashbuckling seas of downloads.

I'd say "let the best pirate win", but I'm afraid it's going to be anti-climactic. The real pirates will swab the decks with these amateur wanna-be's.

Re:It's A Fight To The Death ... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664058)

It may be anti-climactic, but how about anti-climatic? Are anti-pirates good or bad for global warming?

Re:It's A Fight To The Death ... (1)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664096)

It may be anti-climactic, but how about anti-climatic? Are anti-pirates good or bad for global warming?

My Magic 8-Ball says "The Pirates Will Weather The Storm". D'oh!

Re:It's A Fight To The Death ... (1)

symbolset (646467) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664540)

Shiver me timbers! [wordpress.com]

Keep going (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664044)

I want some serious action to encourage the development of the completely anonymous protocols.

Keep pushing, studios.

Re:Keep going (1)

countertrolling (1585477) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664236)

The only hope is to hide in all the noise. The P2Pers got stupid when they started blathering all about it. Goddamn teenyboppers..

Re:Keep going (1)

calmofthestorm (1344385) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664564)

There are rather large darknets out there that are closed to new members. If you can get a private tracker (protocol doesn't really matter) community large enough and then close it off BEFORE you get infiltrated, you're good to go. Harder to do these days unfortunately.

Re:Keep going (4, Insightful)

Tassach (137772) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664612)

That's why I'm not worried about this.

The only people who are going to take a job like this are untalented drones of marginal technical ability who can't get a job elsewhere, especially at the . Furthermore, peer pressure is going to be enough to discourage most people (talented or not) from getting paid to turn narc / sell out to the man.

The smart, creative people are going to be on the other side of the fight.

Anyone with half a brain can tell that the copyright cartels are fighting a losing battle, desperately clinging to a business model that has been rendered obsolete by modern technology. P2P would largely disappear overnight if there was a legal alternative that offered a perceived benefit (guaranteed quality, good search, high speed download, brand loyalty, etc) over a pirate source. The studios are unwilling to do that because then they would have to charge prices that are dictated by the market, rather than by monopolistic fiat.

There will always be some people who will take free over speed or convenience, but there are plenty who won't -- just witness Starbuck's ability to sell a quarter's worth of coffee at a 1000+% markup.

Sweet deal (3, Funny)

Brian Boitano (514508) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664046)

During the 12 month internship the students will have to maintain accounts at private BitTorrent sites, develop link-scanning bots, make trap purchases and perform various other anti-piracy tasks.

Sounds like a sweet deal! I'll just copy that to my USB hard drive...

Could be worse (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664050)

I think I prefer this sort of activity rather than forcing ISPs to do their bidding for no cost to the copyright holder. Or intensive lobbying that hurts everyone. Yeah, it may be a foolish quest to combat copyright infringement, but at least this way of going about it makes some modicum of sense.

Re:Could be worse (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664254)

I think I prefer this sort of activity rather than forcing ISPs to do their bidding for no cost to the copyright holder.

Who says they'll stop doing that?

Or intensive lobbying that hurts everyone.

What makes you think they're going to stop lobbying? Its the only tactic they use
that actually seems to work.

From TFA:

The intern will literally be on the front-lines of the epic battle against pirated content, ensnaring users in incriminating transactions, issuing takedown requests, and causing general frustration amongst the file-sharing population on the Internet."

I'm betting these interns will be a way of issuing mass takedowns of everything they dont like once ACTA passes.
They'll just blame any wrongful takedowns on a few overzealous interns. Someone is far less likely to sue a 'poor student'
tan a rich company for improper takedowns.

Re:Could be worse (2, Insightful)

zblack_eagle (971870) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664538)

Someone is far less likely to sue a 'poor student' than a rich company for improper takedowns.

I've got two words for you: Vicarious Liability [wikipedia.org]

Steal the Treasure! (1)

Warclock (1695222) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664066)

Looks like these "anti-pirates" will only try to stop theft of treasure from Warner or NBC - everyone else is free game! Yar!

Re:Steal the Treasure! (1)

sopssa (1498795) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664120)

Well obviously they're only going to send copyright infringement notices for Warner and NBC content because they work for them and are only authorized to send such notices for them. But what makes you think no one else has such departments? I'm quite sure they do, or have outsourced it.

What qualifies as IT background? (2, Funny)

radicalrendell (882721) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664070)

Have you ever used BitTorrent? [X] -- Congratulations you are hired!

Its a trap! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664152)

Its all just a trap because by answering that question you also swear you have illegally downloaded content and are therefor a pirate and must be fined the maximum amount allowed by law times how old you are to give a rough estimate of the number of downloads!

Re:Its a trap! (1)

radicalrendell (882721) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664256)

Good point... its "a honeypot".

Sellouts (0, Troll)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664076)

I guess some people will do anything for money.

Re:Sellouts (0, Troll)

Threni (635302) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664490)

I would do anything for enough money, and, if you're being honest, so would you. It just depends on how much money, and how badly you need it.

Re:Sellouts (1)

symbolset (646467) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664574)

Think of the opportunities here: interns. With access to playbooks, methods, tools, sites. IP addresses. With the chance to come out afterward and disclose everything to the targets, the press and the courts. Let's not tar and feather them all just yet.

No frustration on these seas... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664078)

YARRR

What a bunch of pussies (1)

Huntr (951770) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664082)

WB UK doesn't want to get their hands soiled, so they get a bunch of job-hungry college kids to do their dirty work. I guess it wouldn't look seemly for a real -AA employee to "maintain accounts at private BitTorrent sites, develop link-scanning bots, [and] make trap purchases."

Re:What a bunch of pussies (1)

Kitkoan (1719118) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664260)

WB UK doesn't want to get their hands soiled, so they get a bunch of job-hungry college kids to do their dirty work. I guess it wouldn't look seemly for a real -AA employee to "maintain accounts at private BitTorrent sites, develop link-scanning bots, [and] make trap purchases."

It also depends on how they are hired. If the papers they sign state that they are responsible for their own actions, it would get WB out of any counter-lawsuits for thing done. Like if a incorrect takedown notice was issued or if they write a bot to scan and it either causes Internet shortages on a site or even worse, then WB just walks away showing those signed papers and the college kid is D.O.A. Not to mention with papers signed like that hiring people who might not know the legal issues of finding and obtaining this information can lead to pirates being caught in less then ethical to down right illegal ways and WB won't have to care about the legal ramifications since the papers stated that the college kids are responsible for their own actions and don't reflect WB in any way, they just get the answers.

Re:What a bunch of pussies (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664460)

Not to mention while trying to see who is pirating something they are authorized to do by a copyright holder they might end up pirating something they aren't authorized for and get sued.
It would be a shame if some people put up stuff, that they owned the copyright for, with "interesting" names and started sending these student workers settlement offers for several thousand dollars or sued them for hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Re:What a bunch of pussies (1)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664516)

> If the papers they sign state that they are responsible for their own
> actions, it would get WB out of any counter-lawsuits for thing done.

It isn't that easy. If WB directs their actions they are agents of WB and it might be held liable regardless of what papers were signed.

Better look out (3, Funny)

Aurisor (932566) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664086)

Better hope /b doesn't get a list of those interns. It would be really awful if someone were to leak a list of the chosen interns, post it to 4chan, and then have them torture and harass them until they curl up in the fetal position, crying.

Re:Better look out (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664530)

Nah they'l just get them banned from /s/

Re:Better look out (1)

calmofthestorm (1344385) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664572)

Get a list of it? I bet half the interns are under-cover /b/tards. Can you imagine how lulzy that has the potential to be?

So? (3, Interesting)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664092)

Why is this an issue? Warner Brothers does have a legal right to enforce their copyrights. While I would prefer they focus on those that are profiting from unauthorized distribution of copyrighted material, they also have a right to issue take-down notices. What would be unethical would be: uploading copyrighted material and then suing anybody who downloads it. Clearly, if WB themselves are freely distributing it, then they are implicitly granting permission for it to be distributed freely.

Re:So? (4, Insightful)

selven (1556643) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664198)

When we argue, we don't argue about what the law is. That's for the courts to decide. We argue about what the law should be. And, as the discussion here shows, it is not at all clear that Warner Bros is morally right in legally enforcing their copyrights against individual file sharers.

Re:So? (0, Flamebait)

DAldredge (2353) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664228)

Because it upsets the I want everything for free crowd on /.

Re:So? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664384)

Yes, it annoys me to no end that I have to go through a variety of legal and procedural hoops to ensure content I create can be consumed, used and re-purposed by other people (creative commons share-alike, GPL, etc.). I just want people to have access to my work, and be able to build off of it (assuming it is useful to them). That's how the world works. This closed up copyright/IP BS is a recent (like only a few centuries old) invention and I do not think it serves us well.

Re:So? (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664266)

Is that not what they are doing when they have their agents join a torrent swarm?

Re:So? (1)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664462)

If they are seeding, yes. How can I be sued for downloading material that an agent of the copyright holder has made available? Redistributing it should also be legal, but that is more of a gray area.

Re:So? (5, Insightful)

timmarhy (659436) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664300)

no they don't, the government has the right to enforce copyrights. Warner Brothers has the right to ALLEGE an infringement and make a complaint. anything more grants them the roles of judge, jury and executioner all in one.

If you want to argue ethics, lets debate about movie producers and actors with net worths in the 100's of millions sueing single mothers and college kids for downloading a few movies they otherwise wouldn't pay to see anyway.

Re:So? (1)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664560)

I agree with you. Downloading should be perfectly ok. The RIAA other other assholes' actions are based on a tenuous legal argument that everybody that downloads material is also making that material available to others, thus implicitly redistributing copyrighted material. They should have to prove ACTUAL redistribution before requesting damages. Unfortunately, software like bittorrent blurs the line between downloading and uploading. It also brings up another interesting question: if I've only redistributed 1% of a copyrighted work, shouldn't that be regarded as "fair use"?

They keep spending money on this (5, Insightful)

kawabago (551139) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664100)

The entertainment industry keeps pouring money into anti-piracy and they keep getting further behind. The millions of dollars the industry spends on these campaigns bring in absolutely zero in increased revenue. If the industry took the position that file traders don't matter and that people who buy movies and music are the ones that do matter, they could then spend this money reaching out to people who will buy and bring in increased profits. Continuing to invest in the people who aren't interested in buying is only going to increase costs and drive paying customers away.

Interesting tactic, won't work. (5, Insightful)

dgatwood (11270) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664108)

Well, it might work in the short term. All content protection, whether through DRM, laws, takedown notices, or any other mechanism is fundamentally founded on the principal that "we're smarter than you are", which in the long term is always an untenable position merely because of the scale involved. For every one person they employ to defend their copyright, there are a thousand people looking for ways to break whatever measures they put in place.

For example, it is possible to design a P2P system that does not rely on trackers (e.g. the DHT scheme that TPB uses). With such a system, content is not hosted anywhere that can get a takedown notice. Combined with onion routing (crypto), you can also make it highly infeasible to determine who is actually seeding the content, nearly guaranteeing that anyone you attack is an innocent victim, thus making the courts take progressively more negative attitudes towards your attacks. Put simply, the harder they try to clamp down on P2P, the greater the security measures that will be put in place to thwart it.

You cannot compete with P2P by attacking it. You can only compete with it by providing a better experience (or at least a comparable experience) through legal channels for a price that the market is willing to bear. Start by reducing the price of Blu-Ray movies to the same price as their DVD counterparts. That alone will take a huge chunk out of P2P.

Re:Interesting tactic, won't work. (4, Interesting)

russ1337 (938915) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664636)

quote]You cannot compete with P2P by attacking it. You can only compete with it by providing a better experience (or at least a comparable experience) through legal channels for a price that the market is willing to bear. Start by reducing the price of Blu-Ray movies to the same price as their DVD counterparts. That alone will take a huge chunk out of P2P.

Start by offering 700MB XVID downloads for about USD$5 from fast servers with fantastic bandwidth.

In the movie file, show one add for an upcoming movie, then show the credit card details and user account information for about 5 seconds. "this copy of $movie is licenced to $name $address $credit_card_number" . The customer will protect your movies with the same level of care as their card information, and will share it at their own risk or have to go to the hassle of editing the information out before putting it on p2p.

As parent said, only by competing with the product (p2p) will the movie companies win. And they have a chance to make some big money off that 'long tail'. Apply suitable methods to discourage sharing, and consumption will increase. Using this method, the movie industry would kill TV and make Billions.

Shit job, Shit Pay. (3, Insightful)

Jackie_Chan_Fan (730745) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664134)

This to me reads as "Warner Brothers is ripping off intelligent college students"

Keep your shitty check. If you want to pay people to do your dirty work, you better pay them a damn good wage.

I dont know of any US or UK mercenaries who work for minimum wage.

and when they're found out... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664142)

...their names will be posted to a public database, right?

So that all those nasty pirates sharing the college with them can have a friendly word with them to find out where they went off the beaten track, right?

Make that unauthorized file-sharing (2, Insightful)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664184)

> causing general frustration amongst the file-sharing population on the
> Internet.

Make that unauthorized file-sharing. There are people who have no interest WB's crap: they are unaffected.

Worst job ever (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664196)

Thanks "anonymous reader" for making what might be the lamest, least effective job ever sound "awesome". But, you know if they're pirates... I don't really think The Pirate Bay nor it's users are going to give a damn about your "epic war", takedown requests or etc. What are these dumb college kids really supposed to do, go onto tpb.org and whine at the people there?

Epic? (2, Funny)

Eggbloke (1698408) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664208)

The intern will literally be on the front-lines of the epic battle against pirated content

I'm not sure court cases can be described as epic...

They are fighting nature (3, Insightful)

erroneus (253617) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664212)

When fighting nature, either nature always wins or everyone loses. In this case, they are fighting artistic and entertainment nature. Art and entertainment need to be free and need to be shared. It is an important part of what it means to be a human being. What big media is doing is wrong in the sense that they think they can control and limit and even "bottle up" art and entertainment to maximize their profits.

What people are doing with their collecting and sharing is natural human behavior. It doesn't feel like a "crime" to most people to share because it's quite natural and it's everywhere.

And please, I have heard the arguments before "but people wouldn't create if there were no money in it!" Pure nonsense. Fan films and other amateur work if littering the internet like never before. People love creating and building and showing off. They don't do it for money. They do it for attention or as an outlet or just to make people smile. Yes, there are many who are attracted to the media market because there is a lot of money to be made, but that's not why the TALENTED people do it... just the greedy ones.

Warner Bros, Fuck you, Try it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664214)

:)

"They" will encrypt and anonymise everything and all you will do is anger your paying customers. Die by your own hand... foolish I say.

Charge less for your products, allow fair use of them, and provide them in open formats so that people can enjoy their lives rather than be enslaved to limitations.

Your call.

Think very hard about this. This is plenty of money to be made by treating your customers with dignity and respect.

Won't work (5, Insightful)

allometry (840925) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664224)

When you pirate a movie, you don't have to contend with ads, previews or screens you can't force your way past. When you legitimately buy a movie, you are forced to watch previews, get stuck waiting for the FBI warning and often times contend with other annoyances.

Perhaps shafting your legitimate clients isn't the best way to do business?

Re:Won't work (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664298)

That's crazy talk. -MAFIAA

Re:Won't work (2, Insightful)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664378)

Get a better DVD player. VLC is great at skipping that crap, dealing with scratched discs and upscaling.

Re:Won't work (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664510)

Too bad the UI is horrible. That's not to say that I don't use it, but most "Joe Users" wouldn't bother.

Re:Won't work (3, Insightful)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664532)

When you legitimately buy a movie

There is no such thing as buying a movie... unless maybe if you are the producer.
Since you only get a license for limited use.

But even if you could freely use it, there still is no such thing as ownership of information. Because ownership is defined as having certain abilities, like control over it. Which for information, is only possible, if it has never left your mind. But then you can also not prove its existence.
As soon as you let it out, you just split control with whoever received it.

Which means that it’s absurd to speak of “ownership”, when talking about information.
Information is free. Period. And just like with gravity, there is nothing, anyone can do about it.

Star Wars, much? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664250)

This sounds a lot like "Come to the dark side, we have cookies"

I see a new "troll" label in the making (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664262)

Any poster who promotes DRM or blasts piracy, is going to be called a WB tool from now on.

House slave and Field slave (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664296)

So now the slavemaster creates the house slave to pit against the field slave

I'm only an amateur grammar nazi... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664326)

Isn't that a pretty stupid use of the word "literally"?

Bored of contacting the developers? (1)

ElKry (1544795) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664348)

P2P developers routinely receive offers to work for anti-p2p companies, developing against themselves. And not offers to help develop proper measures to control the copyright status of the shared files, but to create ways to disrupt their own networks, or other p2p networks, in clever ways. While I understand that contacting the more knowledgeable people in the field seems like the best move, this news item only proves that they can get the point after receiving a "Fuck you" answer over and over again...

Consent? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664368)

If Warner Brothers is participating in a BitTorrent swarm, uploading files on which they own the copyright, does that imply that anyone is free to accept what they are offering?

say goodbye to friendship (2, Funny)

Triv (181010) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664386)

Wow. I used to think being a dorm RA was the fast-lane to friendlessness, but clearly this is worse.

Re:say goodbye to friendship (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664478)

Just don't do any enforcement of the rules and be absent much of the time, until they replace you. My first RA was awesome.

Predicting the Future (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664436)

I predict a future news article:

"Anti Pirate found to Pirate that which they set out to Protect.

As useless as a finger in the dyke (1)

Trip6 (1184883) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664438)

Meant in the metaphorical sense, get your mind out of the gutter!

Traitors beware! (4, Funny)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664450)

My grandmother told me, that when the Nazis took over Luxemburg (our country), there were people who collaborated with the Nazis. They were called “Gielemännchen“ (yellow mankins), and often wore yellow rain coats. Everyone hated them.

Wanna know what happened to them when the Nazis were gone?
They were brutally killed by the villagers. Every single one of them. Often in cruel ways and with blunt objects.

So beware, if you dare to collaborate with the enemy. Cause they might not be there, when we come for you later.

Re:Traitors beware! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664620)

So the moral of the story is...the villagers were no better than the Nazis?

Ha (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664454)

This makes me want to get involved in piracy again so that I can beat the living shit out of some of these sellouts.

Simpler solution (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664472)

Just post a few thousand Rick Roll clips the length of the movie only marked things like Avatar. When they find out 99% of the films posted are Rick Roll most will surrender or at least use up their bandwidth trying to download a film.

But the question is... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664488)

Who will the Ninjas side with ?

illegal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31664558)

The student is not in authority to essentially sell the University's network access and network information to another business.

Re:illegal (1)

NSN A392-99-964-5927 (1559367) | more than 4 years ago | (#31664628)

The student is not in authority to essentially sell the University's network access and network information to another business.

Bugs bunny meets Elmer Fudd,

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