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EU Demands Canada Gut Its Copyright and Patent Laws

samzenpus posted more than 4 years ago | from the try-again dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Late last year, a draft of the European Union proposal for the intellectual property chapter of Canada, EU Comprehensive Economic Trade Agreement, leaked online. The leak revealed that the EU was seeking some significant changes to Canadian IP laws. Negotiations have continued and Michael Geist has now obtained an updated copy of the draft chapter, complete with proposals from both the EU and Canada. He says the breadth of the demands is stunning — the EU is demanding nothing less than a complete overhaul of Canadian IP laws including copyright, trademark, databases, patent, geographic indications, and even plant variety rights."

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Overestimating their power (0, Troll)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 4 years ago | (#31666816)

I remember the last time some upstart European thought he could tromp all over the territorial rights of other countries. That didn't end so well for him.

His name?
Frank Stallone.

Re:Overestimating their power (5, Insightful)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 4 years ago | (#31666914)

Well, it's a treaty. All the Canadians have to do is to not sign it.

Re:Overestimating their power (1)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 4 years ago | (#31666958)

The Japanese didn't need to sign the declaration of surrender on September 2, 1945, but as with any course of action there would have been a corresponding reaction.

Re:Overestimating their power (5, Funny)

TheCowSaysMooNotBoo (997535) | more than 4 years ago | (#31666964)

and what is the EU going to do? Give them a very dirty look?

Re:Overestimating their power (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31667056)

Sign Ze Treaty or We Will Taunt You A Second Time!

Re:Overestimating their power (2, Interesting)

blai (1380673) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667072)

Increase beef and cattle import tax to 4000%, for example. That might give Canada a message.

Re:Overestimating their power (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667152)

Wouldn't that violate other contracts?

Re:Overestimating their power (1)

that this is not und (1026860) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667200)

So the EU 'citizens' (subjects?) will enthusiastically pay 4000% more for their beef? It sounds like an interesting idea. I bet China would like some of that beef.

Re:Overestimating their power (1)

TheThiefMaster (992038) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667502)

No, they would switch to EU beef and cattle (which wouldn't be import taxed), and Canada would lose a lot of exports.

Not that I'm saying it would work, that's the GP's point.

Re:Overestimating their power (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31667232)

Whatever Europe doesn't eat, I'll eat.

Re:Overestimating their power (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31667600)

I suspect the WTO would have something to say about that.

Re:Overestimating their power (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31667270)

and what is the EU going to do? Give them a very dirty look?

Threaten to send all their niggers to Canada. That's all it would take. Though that would be the very best thing that could ever happen to EU. If EU did that and then saw a Golden Age maybe the PC crowd would finally shut the hell up.

Re:Overestimating their power (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31667392)

I guess, this is a treaty. Most likely there is an incentive to sign it.

Policy laundering (5, Insightful)

Geof (153857) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667332)

Well, it's a treaty. All the Canadians have to do is to not sign it.

In many cases this is a myth, a nice fiction we can tell ourselves to make us feel better. Treaties can be convenient way for governments to institute unpopular measures. Here's how it works:

  1. The government negotiates and signs the treaty. This can be done without any democratic oversight, as in the case of ACTA, because no legislation is being passed. (In some countries treaties can act as law without implementing legislation, but I'm pretty sure this is not the case in Canada.)
  2. The government signs the treaty. Again, no legislation is passed, so the this may be done unilaterally by the government or by a few individuals within it.
  3. Legislation is drawn up to implement the treaty. At this point, any democratic opposition is met with claims this is a "done deal". We signed the treaty and are obliged to live up to our international obligations with our trade partners. Trust us, it was the best deal we could get! (See policy laundering [wikipedia.org] ).
  4. Once implemented, the country is locked in: at that point we really do have obligations to other countries (conveniently, they also have obligations to us!). Treaties ratchet policy in one direction only.

Keep in mind that the real push for this comes from multinational media corporations. Governments are not negotiating as independent actors: these corporations intervene on all sides to coordinate and even draft proposals. What we really have is a group of likeminded businesses who operate in concert using individual countries as a front. The treaty then appears to be the result of self-interested negotiations between independent actors: in fact the aim is to stage-manage it to appear that way. Given a means to diffuse opposition (e.g. policy laundering), governments - or, more specifically, the relevant politicians and bureaucrats within governments - may find that lobbyists make sure it is in their personal interest to cooperate.

I have no personal knowledge of how this treaty is being negotiated. I am not accusing anyone of anything. I hope that the relevant individuals in government are representing the interests of Canadians. But I have no doubt this is the kind of thing the usual suspects are trying to pull. In which case the suggestion that "we can just say no" neatly conceals what's really happening.

One final point: Canada is in no way the equal of the EU. The EU has over 500 million people to Canada's 32 million. We tend to anthropomorphize negotiations as though countries were freely contracting equal citizens. They aren't. They are unequal powers.

Our new overlords (3, Funny)

app13b0y (767720) | more than 4 years ago | (#31666820)

I, for one, welcome our new EU Overlords!

Re:Our new overlords (a different meme) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31666890)

Well I think you know the answer to that.

Re:Our new overlords (a different meme) (2, Interesting)

creimer (824291) | more than 4 years ago | (#31666972)

Would that be "Up yours, mate!" or "May I have some more, sir?"

Re:Our new overlords (a different meme) (5, Funny)

c6gunner (950153) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667556)

Would that be "Up yours, mate!" or "May I have some more, sir?"

You're thinking of Australia. Our response would be "Up yours, eh?"

FIRST! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31666826)

Blame Canada?

Wow (4, Insightful)

TubeSteak (669689) | more than 4 years ago | (#31666830)

Global harmonization through treaties is creating a race to the bottom as far as the citizen's general welfare is concerned.

I can't imagine why Canada is still negotiating such a treaty when it seems to be so insanely one-sided.

Re:Wow (5, Insightful)

future assassin (639396) | more than 4 years ago | (#31666978)

Because our gov. cares more about the well being of corporations then its citizens. Nothing new here but I think in the next 15 years will be a huge turning point around the world towards corporations controlling more and more of our lives. I'm ready for showdown, my parents did it in the early 80's in Poland and I'm ready to take their attitude towards corporate governments.

Re:Wow (3, Insightful)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667172)

Because our gov. cares more about the well being of corporations then its citizens

No, they (politicians) care about themselves first and foremost. Corporation provide kick-backs and bribes, individual citizens don't so much. In the end however, they don't give a rats ass about either. They end up getting fucked over anyways in the form of nullifying laws and regulations.

Re:Wow (1)

clarkkent09 (1104833) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667406)

Because our gov. cares more about the well being of corporations then its citizens.

Why do the citizens elect such a government then? I think the problem is that once we have given our government the power to dispose of $3.5 trillion of our money, supposedly on our behalf, annually the corruption is inevitable because it is down to the arbitrary decisions by the government bureaucrats as to who wins and who loses a share of that loot. If we have not made the government so big and powerful, the corporations would have to make their money more by serving their customers and less by lobbying and bribing politicians.

Re:Wow (1)

c6gunner (950153) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667570)

Because our gov. cares more about the well being of corporations then its citizens.

Nonsense. You must not be living in the same Canada as me.

Re:Wow (2, Interesting)

AHuxley (892839) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667128)

Poor Canada. The US wants your wood, fresh water, its draft dodgers, syrups and oil.
The EU wants your artistic brains and Francophone culture.
Make the US and the EU pay for both.
Let the US feel market forces and flood the EU with low cost French and English culture.
As for the length of copy control on works, talk to some local Canadian artists,musicians, lawyers, playwrights, authors and filmmakers.

Re:Wow (1)

SimonGhent (57578) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667482)

flood the EU with low cost French and English culture

Like Michael Bublé, Bryan Adams & Céline Dion...

Harsh!

Re:Wow (1)

Gerzel (240421) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667308)

It is difficult to say one way or the other as there is no way to see what things would be like WITHOUT said treaties.

Wars are more localized to fewer parts of the world in the past 50 years than they were before. Global Trade while it does have several substantial drawbacks comes with many undeniable benefits.

Humanity has reached a point where it can influence and change the global environment, thus it may well become, if it is not already, necessary and vital to our survival for a means of regulation and control of our effects on the enviroment. If a civilization doesn't control that they can kill themselves.

Re:Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31667326)

Er, because the EU is a bigger market than the USA?
You want to trade in a market comprising nigh on half a billion people?
Sign on the dotted line please.

Feh (4, Funny)

Reed Solomon (897367) | more than 4 years ago | (#31666832)

Well, they also demanded we stop the seal hunt. Are they going to request that we all wear visors while playing hockey too? Honestly. How naive.

Re:Feh (5, Insightful)

blind monkey 3 (773904) | more than 4 years ago | (#31666960)

There's a difference with this and seal hunts, corporations make money if seal hunts remain, corporations make money if copyright and patent laws are changed. The corporations will be on the other side for this.
I suspect your government knows who to listen to, just as ours do.

Re:Feh (5, Interesting)

Reed Solomon (897367) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667058)

corporations make money if the seal hunt remains?

really?

corporations?

hahahahahahahah.

The seal hunt has never been about profitability. Most seal hunters, while they hope to profit, are hardly corporations making tons of cash. For aboriginals and the atlantic sealers its a tradition and way of life.

Seals are hardly going extinct. And in fact high seal numbers might be threatening populations of less photogenic animals.

The real "corporations" are PETA and their ilk. They make the real money.

51 st state? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31666844)

I say we take Alberta first, just to make Ontario Jealous. Then add them one by one, leaving Quebec for last. Just because they're going to be the hardest to convince. I suggest a heavy does of New Orleans style persuasion complete with mardi gras tickets.

Re:51 st state? (2, Funny)

Goldberg's Pants (139800) | more than 4 years ago | (#31666888)

I live in Alberta, and would fight to the death to stop the US if they ever tried anything.

I'd rather be dead than American.

Re:51 st state? (5, Funny)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 4 years ago | (#31666928)

You're already American. North American!

lol

Re:51 st state? (3, Interesting)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667032)

It's okay, if what I've seen in BC and Ontario is anything to go buy, the rest of Canada would pay you guys to take Alberta in.

Now if they can also somehow ship Quebec off to France, I think it'll be all settled.

~

Re:51 st state? (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667106)

But there is no word for USAian which makes sense.

Re:51 st state? (3, Insightful)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667158)

US-American?

Re:51 st state? (3, Informative)

Alexandra Erenhart (880036) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667318)

There is one in spanish: estadounidense :P

Re:51 st state? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31667382)

There is one in spanish: estadounidense :P

Well at this point more ppl in USA talk Spanish than English, so why not make it the official language soon?

Re:51 st state? (1)

Alexandra Erenhart (880036) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667580)

NO no you got it wrong. It's not spanish, it's spanglish

Re:51 st state? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31667354)

North American!

Gaah! Stop doing that with the Slashcode, you're freaking me out...

Re:51 st state? (1)

osu-neko (2604) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667300)

Naw, it'd work better the other way around -- our states should secede and become Canadian provinces. Ends up the same in the end (one united country), except with Ottawa instead of Washington DC, which sounds like a trade up to me...

I can't remember... (4, Insightful)

tsotha (720379) | more than 4 years ago | (#31666846)

How do you say "fuck off" in Canadian?

Re:I can't remember... (5, Funny)

Goldberg's Pants (139800) | more than 4 years ago | (#31666858)

"Fuck off, eh!"

Re:I can't remember... (1)

Cryacin (657549) | more than 4 years ago | (#31666938)

There we go. Red Green to the rescue.

Re:I can't remember... (2, Funny)

future assassin (639396) | more than 4 years ago | (#31666992)

Thats Take off eh you hoser

Re:I can't remember... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31666980)

So, why don't ya hosers Fuck off, Eh?

Re:I can't remember... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31667034)

A polite but sternly worded letter.

Re:I can't remember... (4, Informative)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667038)

"Excuse me, sir, but would you please be so kind as to fuck off? Sorry to bother you again."

Re:I can't remember... (1)

capebretonsux (758684) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667042)

That entirely depends in what province you're in.

Re:I can't remember... (1)

Jettamann (25050) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667108)

Like this: "Hey, EU!! fuck off, Eh!"

where EU is pronounced like "ewe".

Of course our current "got no balls of a Prime Minister Harper will end up taking it from
  behind like sheep on this issue"
 

Re:I can't remember... (5, Informative)

QRDeNameland (873957) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667142)

How do you say "fuck off" in Canadian?

Fuddle Duddle [wikipedia.org]

Re:I can't remember... (1)

WoodenTable (1434059) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667506)

I believe the correct translation for that here in Canada is "Sorry, eh?"

We get a lot of use out of the phrase, I'm sure you can imagine.

WTH (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31666850)

Since when did the EU run Canada?

Re:WTH (2, Funny)

Goldberg's Pants (139800) | more than 4 years ago | (#31666870)

Well the US has been rattling this saber for years now thinking they control us.

Sad thing is the scum in charge like Harper will probably just roll over for legislation that is so biased in favour of the corporations they whore themselves too.

Re:WTH (3, Insightful)

ibsteve2u (1184603) | more than 4 years ago | (#31666906)

Don't ever give in. As a U.S. citizen, I am fully aware of an approaching need for someplace to run - not from socialism, but from corporate fascism.

Re:WTH (0, Troll)

twostix (1277166) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667304)

They are two branches of the same tree, and in reality to the average person they're so close together that when implemented you can't tell the difference between the two when you're at the bottom looking up (as 99.999% of people here are).

I can't believe they ever branched into two separate "trees" in academic thought though. A necessary thing for the intelligensia to do after the war given that they so completely bought into the various flavours of Socialism in the 20's and 30's and didn't want to be hung drawn and quartered by the survivors after the war was over for ever supporting the ugliest version of it (they simply loved the idea of Eugenics, and members of the current administration still do).

The thing about it though is that the true believers in both ideologies share almost exactly the same ideals culminating in one final goal: Total support for an all powerful elite that uses the state apparatus to run every aspect of the plebs lives and move us around like we're cattle for their own ends. The ends always being more money, power and control for them and theirs.

Re:WTH (2, Interesting)

TheSpoom (715771) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667352)

How's that universe you've imagined for yourself?

Re:WTH (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31667548)

So with you Sunni = Shiite, Catholic = Protestant, Black = White?

Re:WTH (1)

korean.ian (1264578) | more than 4 years ago | (#31666908)

Unfortunately, parent speaks the truth here. We need to wean our government off the corporate cock.

Re:WTH (1)

c6gunner (950153) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667590)

Please, do tell: which corporations control the Canadian government?

If you say "The HUdsons Bay Company", I'll beat you with a beaver tail.

Re:WTH (1)

AHuxley (892839) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667138)

The EU is full of love, respect and hope for parts of Canada

Re:WTH (1)

slayer_ix (927649) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667186)

I sure didn't vote for them.

What the hell? (5, Insightful)

Goldberg's Pants (139800) | more than 4 years ago | (#31666852)

Seriously, as a Canadian this disgusts me. The EU, the US... What the hell gives these assholes the right to demand ANYTHING?

Makes me absolutely sick to read this. There is nothing wrong with Canada's laws. And that is exactly why they want it changed, so there IS something wrong with it to throw the balance off hugely in favour of coporations.

Despicable.

Re:What the hell? (2, Funny)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 4 years ago | (#31666942)

Seriously, as a Canadian this disgusts me. The EU, the US... What the hell gives these assholes the right to demand ANYTHING?

Well, everyone can demand everything. I also can demand that you give me a billion euros, immediately. Now, there's little chance that I'll get that, and no one will consider that demand justified, but I can demand it nevertheless.

So, where is my money? :-)

Re:What the hell? (2, Funny)

iCodemonkey (1480555) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667228)

would Zimbabwean Dollars do?

Re:What the hell? (3, Insightful)

fatwilbur (1098563) | more than 4 years ago | (#31666984)

Unfortunately, they can do (try) this because they are our customers. Canada's place in the economic world revolves around one thing - we have lots of natural resources that we can sell to other countries. We make so much money selling our stuff (oil, trees, etc.) that we try to place nice so you'll keep making us rich. You should know this as an Albertan ;-) It's pretty much the reason we follow step what the US is doing. Eurpoe doesn't have nearly as much leverage as the US, but Canada is looking to diversify trading partners...

Re:What the hell? (0, Troll)

0123456 (636235) | more than 4 years ago | (#31666996)

Eurpoe doesn't have nearly as much leverage as the US, but Canada is looking to diversify trading partners...

Europe needs resources far more than Canada needs Europe.

Re:What the hell? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31667212)

That's true, but it doesn't actually mean much.

I don't know whether it would be true to say (the more useful) "Europe needs resources far more than Canada needs customers."

Re:What the hell? (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#31666990)

Seriously, as a Canadian this disgusts me. The EU, the US... What the hell gives these assholes the right to demand ANYTHING?

Peace naturally leads to people working together. If we don't want our governments to cooperate we must invent reasons for our governments to hate each other.

Its that simple. See google vs China.

Re:What the hell? (4, Insightful)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667004)

Germany here.
Despite the fact that we didn’t ever elect them, they are called “our” government.
Actually, they are more like your enemies.
So if you ever need to throw over the EU pseudo-government, you got allies here.
Just beware, that the reason this is like it is in the first place, is that most people here are cattle too, and we’re not the ones herding them.

Re:What the hell? (1)

tsotha (720379) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667024)

I wouldn't say there's nothing wrong with Canada's laws. Taxes are way too high on beer and cigarettes.

Re:What the hell? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31667036)

Come on! They have every right to demand it. It's just that you have every right to say "no." and laugh at them.

Re:What the hell? (5, Funny)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667046)

Seriously, as a Canadian this disgusts me. The EU, the US... What the hell gives these assholes the right to demand ANYTHING?

Calm down, mate. If a chief of some remote Polynesian tribe demands tomorrow that all the pale-skins from the Great White North shall submit to the will of his powerful god Yaka-Yaka, or else suffer his wrath, are you going to pay attention as well?

If not, then treat this case the same way. After all, fundamentally, it is the same.

Re:What the hell? (1)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667090)

I wouldn't want to be on the wrong side of Yaka-Yaka.

Re:What the hell? (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667096)

I wouldn't want to be on the wrong side of Yaka-Yaka.

Well, they have First Nations to take care of that.

Re:What the hell? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31667122)

Stop whining and get back to your pot. It's a brave new world.

Since when? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31666862)

Canada is in Europe now?

Re:Since when? (3, Interesting)

GumphMaster (772693) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667206)

It is, in the same way that Australia was treated as an extension of the USA during the "negotiation" of last "free" trade agreement between our nations. The result? Australia ended up with a DMCA-wannabe and extended copyright terms or lost other trade items. I particularly like the "Australia's IP laws will be substantially harmonised with the world’s largest intellectual property market, and a global leader in innovation and creative products." arse-kissing exercise. I'm sure that any Canada-EU equivalent will contain similar gems in English and French!

http://www.dfat.gov.au/trade/negotiations/us_fta/outcomes/08_intellectual_property.html [dfat.gov.au]

Re:Since when? (1)

BlackHawk-666 (560896) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667426)

So long as people keep wanting to buy Britney / Lada Gaga albums, watch US sitcoms (oh lord, why!), or import US I.P. in one form or another they are putting themselves into a weak position of negotiation against unwanted foreign I.P. laws.

You can have the turkish delight, but it comes with a price.

Re:Since when? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31667520)

So much this. I will sound self-centered here, but why can't the rest of the (western) world invest more in their own IP, stop importing the US's (via all avenues), and say "fuck off" to the copyright laws with a righteous cause? You can't have it both ways.

Now that you're done reading, you can rate me ignorant jackass/troll.

No problem! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31666892)

Ottawa can always threaten the Europeans with the American army.

Just when you thought there was a glimmer of hope (4, Funny)

Sparx139 (1460489) | more than 4 years ago | (#31666896)

And to think that the EU had taken such a great stand with the ACTA. Then this has to happen.

Re:Just when you thought there was a glimmer of ho (1)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667016)

Actually, it’s the other way around. This is older.

But I still agree that now I won’t believe any anti-ACTA statement from the EU, until ACTA is dead, buried, and all its successors too.

Commission vs Parliament (4, Informative)

Per Abrahamsen (1397) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667064)

The EU Commission is a non-elected body which has as it sole mandate[1] to restrict the rights of citizens, and extend the rights of EU based corporations. It is the Commission that negotiate these treaties, and in general propose new legislation.

The EU Parliament is an elected body which cannot propose new legislation, but can, and sometimes do, block the proposals from the commission. The good stuff you hear from the EU is usually from the Parliament, but they contribute their share of crap as well, as parliaments do everywhere.

[1] Judging by its actions.

Re:Just when you thought there was a glimmer of ho (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31667478)

It's not an EU vs Canada vs US thing.

It's an administrative branch vs legislative branch thing. The administrative branches of the rich nations have united against their respective legislatures. Unfortunately, the constitutions of the diverse countries usually do not allow the legislatures to unite against their respective governments.

The Berne Convention? (3, Insightful)

zlel (736107) | more than 4 years ago | (#31666956)

Is copyright ancillary to the author, or the author ancillary to the copyright? If human lifespan in becoming longer, shouldn't copyright extensions past an author's life be shortened instead of lengthened? Or does it still hold that the good die young?

Re:The Berne Convention? (1)

TubeSteak (669689) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667242)

Is copyright ancillary to the author, or the author ancillary to the copyright? If human lifespan in becoming longer, shouldn't copyright extensions past an author's life be shortened instead of lengthened? Or does it still hold that the good die young?

As long as the royalties keep flowing, an author's estate is timeless.

Re:The Berne Convention? (1)

BlackHawk-666 (560896) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667432)

Do the world a favour, kill an author today. Help lower the length of time his/her works are under copyright. Also...someone kill George Lucus...please.

Re:The Berne Convention? (1)

roman_mir (125474) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667516)

Don't worry about it, people with real talent mostly die relatively young.

Let me guess... (3, Insightful)

calmofthestorm (1344385) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667092)

...it doesn't involve granting more protections to the consumer or public interest.

Can I work in London? (1)

fyoder (857358) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667214)

I've always thought it would be cool to work in Europe for awhile, but I wasn't aware that we were members of EU. When did that happen? Is it because we've got the queen on our money?

Re:Can I work in London? (1)

osu-neko (2604) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667386)

Um... since when did countries negotiate trade agreements with themselves? The fact that this article is about a proposed EU-Canada trade agreement kinda implies that Canada is not a part of the EU. Not sure where you'd get the opposite impression.

If you were part of the EU, they wouldn't make any demands, they'd just make the change themselves. Silently, behind closed-doors, with no democratic input, as I understand how the EU operates.

In exchange of what, and who is paying for it? (1)

kikito (971480) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667256)

I will not pay for this.

South of the Border (1)

bmo (77928) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667278)

As someone here in the States, I have to say that I hope the Canadians tell everyone to piss off.

Seriously, what's the EU going to do? Invade?

Present the digitus impudicus.

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BMO

Re:South of the Border (-1, Offtopic)

bmo (77928) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667292)

Goddamnit, I can't type.

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BMO

For once I agree with Rupert Murdoch ... (1)

Alain Williams (2972) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667282)

or at least the famous Sun headline on a previous EU strong arm attempt "Up Yours Delors [currybet.net] ".

We need more robocop films! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31667378)

There was always a heavy corporations-run-the-world theme in them

Maybe if they get the original director who did Robocop and make it so OCP now owns a major record label and use Robocop to intimidate copyright infringers

New Prime Directives:

      1. "Serve the public trust"
      2. "Protect the innocent"
      3. "Uphold the law"
      4. "Protect OCP's intellectual Property"
      5. (Classified)

Its just EU SOP... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31667492)

The buggers in Brussels don't give a f*** about the people, they just want the power.

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a hidden clause to subsume Canada into the EU and replace its currency with the Euro. After all, Quebec must feel like home to them......

Wait for it... (1)

sonicmerlin (1505111) | more than 4 years ago | (#31667606)

"Notably, the draft includes many new rights for broadcasters. These rights form part of a proposed Broadcast Treaty at WIPO that has failed to achieve consensus. The EU is seeking to build support for the treaty by requiring Canada to implement many new provisions that would give broadcasters a host of new rights and force public places to pay additional fees for carry broadcasts."

So... in other words they want places that provide public benefit to pay more money to people who don't. That's... rational...

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