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Completely Farm-Bred Unagi, a World First

timothy posted more than 4 years ago | from the hey-hajime-at-mashiko! dept.

Earth 204

JoshuaInNippon writes "Japanese scientists at the National Research Institute of Aquaculture, Fisheries Research Agency have reported that they successfully completed an artificial cultivation cycle for unagi, or eel — a world first. Unagi is a traditional delicacy in Japan, and can commonly be found in baked form at sushi restaurants. The fish has long been caught either matured, or still young and then fattened on farms. Sadly, as a result, natural stocks of unagi have plummeted in recent years. However, the research news indicates a future method to completely farm breed the tasty creature in mass quantity. Good news for sushi lovers, Japanese businesses, and wild eel alike."

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204 comments

Total awareness? (1, Funny)

Scutter (18425) | more than 4 years ago | (#31796514)

They can farm-grow total awareness now? /got nuthin'

Re:Total awareness? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31796598)

Ah, salmon skin roll!

Re:Total awareness? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31796602)

What a totally shit show that was. 10 years of it, and now it will be repeating forever on progressively ghetto TV stations.

Re:Total awareness? (3, Funny)

schon (31600) | more than 4 years ago | (#31796610)

Shhh.. you're not supposed to make "Friends" references on /. (unless it's to say how lame the show was.) Someone might ask you to turn in your Geek card.

Re:Total awareness? (2, Funny)

Scutter (18425) | more than 4 years ago | (#31796678)

Shhh.. you're not supposed to make "Friends" references on /. (unless it's to say how lame the show was.) Someone might ask you to turn in your Geek card.

You and I both have SlashID's in the low five digits. We can pretty much get away with anything without losing geek cred.

Re:Total awareness? (5, Funny)

schon (31600) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797044)

We can pretty much get away with anything without losing geek cred.

Jacob or Edward?

And why?
 
/me ducks

Re:Total awareness? (1)

Ihmhi (1206036) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797076)

Oh yeah? Well, my UID is bigger than both of yours combined. What have you got to say about that?!

Check and mate, sirs.

Re:Total awareness? (0)

JWSmythe (446288) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797618)

    The right answer is "shush up newbie."

Re:Total awareness? (1, Insightful)

furball (2853) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797620)

Kids these days. Sigh.

Re:Total awareness? (2, Insightful)

Blakey Rat (99501) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797396)

What's worse? Making the Friends reference? Or being the one other guy (apparently) who recognizes that it's a Friends reference?

Re:Total awareness? (1)

techno-vampire (666512) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797570)

I take it then that friends don't let friends make Friends references?

Re:Total awareness? (1)

jonadab (583620) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797644)

In order to confiscate someone's geek card for a Friends reference, you'd have to first recognize it *as* a Friends reference, and say so. That's all well and good if they used the word "Friends" in their post, but otherwise it puts you in danger of losing your own card.

Re:Total awareness? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31796676)

Do animals feel pain?
Do fish feel pain?

Is it wrong to cause suffering to others?

Is it wrong to cause suffering to others who would never hurt you?

The sociopaths on Slashdot are sickening.
Isn't there one of you out there who can actually FEEL the suffering of others?

Yet you claim to be adults, and not six month old babies.

Human beings are not suppos

Re:Total awareness? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31796864)

Human beings are not suppos

I am a suppo you insensitive clod!

Re:Total awareness? (1, Insightful)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797032)

Hey, stupid! Yo Mama is an OMNIVORE! Yo Granma would eat anything that didn't eat her first! Yo Great Granny has CANINES!!

Get over it - humans are predators - they were DESIGNED (by God or by nature) to eat flesh.

Here, try some A-1 sauce on that medium rare steak. It's delicious. Man, I just love that slightly pink center. BLOOD!! Mmmm-mmmm GOOD!

This is delicious news. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31796540)

I love unagi. This makes me happy on the inside. I'm honestly a little surprised it's taken this long to farm them, but I suppose their needs are rather different than most farmable fish.

Maybe, maybe not (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31796542)

Good news for sushi-lovers, Japanese businesses, and wild eel alike.

In the US Pacific Northwest, it has been found that farm raising salmon significantly hurt the wild populations.
Some of those farmed fish can escape affect the gene pool!

Re:Maybe, maybe not (1)

Frosty Piss (770223) | more than 4 years ago | (#31796660)

In the US Pacific Northwest, it has been found that farm raising salmon significantly hurt the wild populations.

No, it has been found that destruction of natural habitat, dams, and overfishing significantly hurt the wild salmon populations.

Re:Maybe, maybe not (5, Informative)

ushering05401 (1086795) | more than 4 years ago | (#31796816)

The AC is probably referring to the infections that the farmed salmon have transmitted to nearby wild populations. I don't know if transmission is via escape or simple proximity, but there has been some noise about the issue.

Just like with the meat industrial complex animals, the farmed salmon require high doses of meds because of the unnatural and crowded living environment, and this has resulted in some aggressive infections for which the wild population is unprepared.

Re:Maybe, maybe not (5, Informative)

NoMaster (142776) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797360)

Or the genetic impacts on wild salmon (naturally selected for overall fitness) of interbreeding with escaped farmed salmon (human selected for fast growth rates). It's actually a fairly nasty problem for wild stocks, and is being extensively [wiley.com] researched [oxfordjournals.org] .

Re:Maybe, maybe not (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31797494)

In the US Pacific Northwest, it has been found that farm raising salmon significantly hurt the wild populations. Some of those farmed fish can escape affect the gene pool!

In the US Welfare Cities, it has been found that ghetto raising people significantly hurt the productive populations. Some of those government-farmed people can affect the gene pool!

They sound.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31796566)

...deelicious

Dirty Jobs (1)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 4 years ago | (#31796584)

I saw a couple minutes of an episode of Dirty Jobs recently. At first I thought Mike Rowe was sifting through a table of entrails. It was actually a table full of slime and Unagi. Apparently they excrete slime.

Re:Dirty Jobs (1)

ShakaUVM (157947) | more than 4 years ago | (#31796604)

>>Apparently they excrete slime.

Hell, they're still slimy when you eat them. It doesn't make them any less delicious. =)

Seriously, if you've never had an Unagi-Don, shop around at your local sushi restaurants till you get a good one. They're amazing.

Re:Dirty Jobs (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 4 years ago | (#31796818)

I'll pass on that one...

Re:Dirty Jobs (1)

apoc.famine (621563) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797308)

Eel tempura is the most amazing stuff ever. If I could get that cheep, every day, I'd eat a ton of it.

I'm hoping the landlocked midwest US saves me from that terrible fate....

Re:Dirty Jobs (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31796616)

That was probably the slime eel/hagfish episode.

Re:Dirty Jobs (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797112)

That was slime-eel aka hagfish not Unagi.

right (3, Interesting)

Ralph Spoilsport (673134) | more than 4 years ago | (#31796622)

And what will these eel eat? Oh, that's right - fish. Which have to be caught and then fed to the eels...

Salmon farm fishing is a disaster. Shrimp are not much better. I don't know how the tilapia production is fairing. Tilapia are not predators like salmon, so I imagine it might be better, but I have no idea.

Answer: stop eating fish. Sorry.

Re:right (2, Funny)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 4 years ago | (#31796682)

Answer: stop eating fish. Sorry.

Because cows and pigs are any better than farmed fish?

If this is just another vegan scheme to convert us all, I swear I'll, uh, well, enjoy some bacon and make fun of you while doing it...? I got nothing.

Re:right (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797096)

You have to pay more for it, but range/grass fed beef is mostly only a problem for the beef.

Re:right (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797186)

How is it a problem for the beef? You see a lot of wild beef cattle around?

Cattle and swine became hugely biologically successful because of this arrangement. It may not be biologically advantageous for every single animal, but has made them some of the most widespread and successful species.

Re:right (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797226)

I was mostly kidding. But on some level, I was acknowledging that some people think it is mean to kill and eat cattle.

Re:right (1, Insightful)

timmarhy (659436) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797184)

I'm betting your right. vegans always ignore the fact the food chain naturally includes meat eaters, and that meat has 10x the energy of veg meaning you'd have to clear a lot more land to feed the world just on veg. they also ignore that most stock is fed on waste products making it a very efficent industry. not a single bit of an animal is wasted either.

this is what happens when you inject a moral code into what you eat, your unable to see things clearly.

Re:right (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31797236)

I'm betting your right. vegans always ignore the fact the food chain naturally includes meat eaters, and that meat has 10x the energy of veg meaning you'd have to clear a lot more land to feed the world just on veg.

No it doesn't mean that.

they also ignore that most stock is fed on waste products making it a very efficent industry. not a single bit of an animal is wasted either.

That is totally nonsensical.

this is what happens when you inject a moral code into what you eat, your unable to see things clearly.

Yeah, fuck morality.

Oh, and are you insane?

Re:right (1)

timmarhy (659436) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797524)

"they also ignore that most stock is fed on waste products making it a very efficent industry. not a single bit of an animal is wasted either. That is totally nonsensical."

using 100% of the animal and feeding it on material that otherwise is wasted makes perfect sense. The question is why can't you understand such a simple concept?

Re:right (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31797604)

using 100% of the animal and feeding it on material that otherwise is wasted makes perfect sense. The question is why can't you understand such a simple concept?

I believe a lack of protein can stunt development of the brain. If the above AC was raised as a vegan it may well have received inadequate protein leading to a underdeveloped brain. This may explain why it is unable to grasp simple concepts.

Re:right (5, Funny)

apoc.famine (621563) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797338)

I'm betting your right

My right, damn straight MOTHERFUCKER. Don't you DARE FUCK WITH MY RIGHT!!!!!!


Oh, you meant "you're right"...not possessive... Carry on....

Re:right (2, Interesting)

an unsound mind (1419599) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797600)

Except you use far more land growing the feed for the animals than growing the vegetables to replace the meat in a human diet.

Vegetarian diet requires a lot of knowledge of nutrition to make work, but it is far more energy-efficient. Those animals don't subsist on air.

Meat, however, tastes good.

Re:right (1)

IonOtter (629215) | more than 4 years ago | (#31796808)

Tilapia are herbivorous, so you can feed them plant waste. You can almost feed them by fertilizing the water they live in, since they'll eat anything that grows in the water. They're great for controlling aquatic weeds, too. There's a reason tilapia are chosen to be raised on organic veggie farms? You can just recycle the veggie waste right into the shredder and into the tanks.

Re:right (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797196)

You can raise them in the runoff from hydroponic gardening, I have done this.

Re:right (5, Interesting)

apoc.famine (621563) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797488)

Which is why they taste like water....

Seriously, I know that tilapia are "environmentally friendly". However, they taste like shit. Give me pretty much any other fish, and I'll be happy. Tilapia are the shittiest fish you can get.

This kills me, because I'd like to be environmentally friendly, but when given the choice of "tastes like water, and falls apart", and is fucking amazing [wikipedia.org] I'm hard pressed to want to choose tilapia. I want to be good, but tilapia makes me hate fish, more than any other fish. It's so sad that the good-for-the-environment-fish taste like crap.

Re:right (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797510)

Indeed they do, I have raised them, but I never did bother eating them.

Re:right (1)

apoc.famine (621563) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797568)

Then why raise them? Unless you got good money for them....

Re:right (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31797666)

...

This kills me, because I'd like to be environmentally friendly, but when given the choice of "tastes like water, and falls apart", and is fucking amazing [wikipedia.org] I'm hard pressed to want to choose tilapia. I want to be good, but tilapia makes me hate fish, more than any other fish. It's so sad that the good-for-the-environment-fish taste like crap.

You might want to try blackening them: Season with a spicy mixture of Cayenne, Black Pepper, Salt, Garlic Powder/Onion Powder, Powdered Thyme, and Powdered Sage; Let set 5 minutes; Brush with the oil of your choosing(Olive, Corn, Canola, Peanut, etc.); Toss onto a Blazing-NASA-Re-Entry-Hot Cast Iron Grill/Fry Pan for about 30 seconds per side, and serve. Granted, the flavor is a product of the cooking method & not the fish, but it's still delicious.

Re:right (1)

Fnkmaster (89084) | more than 4 years ago | (#31796866)

My answer is to primarily eat wild, sustainably caught fish. It's generally much healthier than farmed fish anyway, which are fed the same garbage that factory farm cattle and pigs are fed, thus removing much of the health benefits of eating fish in the first place. I don't want my beef fattened on corn, and I don't want my salmon fattened on corn either.

Check out http://www.ecofish.com [ecofish.com] or http://www.wildplanetfoods.com/ [wildplanetfoods.com] for some examples. Also, I eat lots of sardines - small fish that have short lifespans and thus tend to accumulate fewer mercury and nasty stuff, and can quickly replenish their population.

Re:right (1)

JanneM (7445) | more than 4 years ago | (#31796978)

"My answer is to primarily eat wild, sustainably caught fish. It's generally much healthier than farmed fish anyway, which are fed the same garbage that factory farm cattle and pigs are fed, thus removing much of the health benefits of eating fish in the first place."

But the OP says they are fed fish, which makes them just as healthy as wild fish. Could you two decide: are they fed fish (great quality feed) or are they fed garbage (one disposal problem down)?

Besides, it's eels we're talking about here. You catch a wild eel, crab or clam and they haven't exactly been dining on fresh fish filets in the wild either.

Re:right (1)

NoMaster (142776) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797410)

That's a fair enough choice from a personal perspective, but it doesn't scale well. There's endless examples of wild fish stocks crashing to dangerously low levels, and a few examples of fish populations effectively being fished to extinction, due to the activities of just a couple of countries. It's pretty obvious that you just can't support a world population of 6.5 billion+ on wild-caught fish.

Oh, and one classic example of this is the crash of sardine fisheries in the 1960's...

Re:right (1)

Ihmhi (1206036) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797100)

Doesn't it just come down to like, the food chain?

To save myself having to read up on this for 20 minutes...

Red Fish are a delicacy in a certain country. Red Fish typically eat Blue Fish. Blue Fish typically eat Green Fish. Green Fish typically eat kelp.

The solution would then be: grow kelp to feed the Green Fish. Once a population of Green Fish is going, feed Green Fish to Blue Fish. Once a population of Blue Fish is going, feed Blue Fish to Red Fish. Once Red Fish population starts growing, sell off the excess as you've reached the "top" of this little microcosm of the overall food chain.

The damn eels gotta eat something. Whatever they eat - you go down the chain far enough and the food has to be something we can grow or produce without having to fish. I really do believe that it all can be farmed. (This opinion might be due to my several-years-long crippling RTS addiction).

Re:right (1)

JrGrouch0 (778235) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797314)

Didn't Dr, Seuss figure this out? One fish two fish, red fish blue fish...

Re:right (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797118)

They can eat dogfood or any high protein diet. No need to feed them fish.

Answer: Stop being a dummy and realize that we can do better than nature!

Re:right (1)

JanneM (7445) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797120)

The eels are already long since farmed. This simply enables eel farming without having to take juveniles from the wild.

"Answer: stop eating fish. Sorry."

When you've convinced people to stop eating meat as well. That is to say, never. Better to find ways of farming fish and seafood that minimizes impact. That will get us better results than pining for something that isn't going to happen.

Bottomfeeder (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31797146)

Answer: stop eating fish. Sorry.

Partly, but not completely. I highly recommend the book "Bottomfeeder" that covers this topic quite well:

http://www.tarasgrescoe.com/excerpt.html

The author recommends the following kinds if you want to eat sustainably:

  • Artic char; barramundi
  • Halibut, Pacific
  • Herring
  • Jellyfish (often used in salads and appetizers in restaurants)
  • Mackerel
  • Mullet
  • Oysters, mussels
  • Pickerel
  • Pollock (usually found in fish sticks and fast-food sandwiches)
  • Sablefish
  • Sardines
  • Squid (aka, calamari)
  • Trout
  • Whiting, blue

There are also many ones that he recommends with provisos (e.g., shrimp, when farmed, are often treated with chemicals and shrimp farms are seriously messing many of the world's poorest countries (e.g., Thailand); farmed shrimp from Mexico though are actually one of the most responsibly produced).

In general though a lot of the fish stocks are close to collapse in many parts of the world.

Highly recommend you check out the book, and at only ~300 pages, it's quick, informative read.

Re:Bottomfeeder (2, Funny)

uncqual (836337) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797554)

  • Mullet

Should you eat the attached redneck also? Yuck.

Re:right (1)

Scarletdown (886459) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797658)

And what will these eel eat? Oh, that's right - fish. Which have to be caught and then fed to the eels...

Anyone who grew up in that crazy Twentieth Century decade of the 70s is well aware that eels eat Assorted Letters of the English Alphabet. [youtube.com]

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japanese will eat anything i swear. (0, Troll)

timmarhy (659436) | more than 4 years ago | (#31796634)

watch iron chef. i swear that culutre would eat anything, they make fish ice cream for cripes sake.

Re:japanese will eat anything i swear. (1)

oldhack (1037484) | more than 4 years ago | (#31796714)

Chinese have them beat: all things four-legged other than table (some like that).

But hey, we eat haggis, lutefisk, scrapple, prarie oyster, head cheese, rotting cheese. We're up there.

Re:japanese will eat anything i swear. (4, Funny)

Like2Byte (542992) | more than 4 years ago | (#31796748)

But hey, we eat haggis, lutefisk, scrapple, prarie oyster, head cheese, rotting cheese. We're up there.

What's this we shit? You got a mouse in your pocket?

I've been to Scotland - I took one look at haggis and I suddenly didn't feel so international anymore.

Re:japanese will eat anything i swear. (1)

oldhack (1037484) | more than 4 years ago | (#31796810)

What I was saying, was that some of us, you know, Royal We, right?

How did you know about the mouse?

Re:japanese will eat anything i swear. (1)

AvalancheBurn (1419817) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797052)

He just assumed, correctly it seems, that anyone posting on /. using we must either be talking about his mouse or his pet ferret.

Re:japanese will eat anything i swear. (1)

oldhack (1037484) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797162)

Oh. I don't eat ferret, either.

Re:japanese will eat anything i swear. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31797672)

There is nothing in Haggis that can't be found in a Big Mac.

Re:japanese will eat anything i swear. (1)

jonadab (583620) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797454)

> But hey, we eat haggis, lutefisk, scrapple, prarie oyster,
> head cheese, rotting cheese. We're up there.

Who is "we", exactly? I take it you're from Scotland (haggis), Scandinavia (lutefisk), *and* France (rotting cheese)? And where on earth do a significant percentage of the population eat head cheese or scrapple, to say nothing of "prairie oysters"? Nowhere, to my knowledge.

Speaking as a Midwesterner, the weirdest thing "we" eat (and it should be noted that I personally don't) is probably ranch dressing (a condiment made from thickened seasoned buttermilk, commonly eaten on lettuce-based salads; about a quarter of the population will voluntarily eat the stuff).

People from other parts of the country actually make fun of us for how tame our cuisine is. The standard joke is, in Ohio there are only three spices: salt, cinnamon, and ketchup. (This is an exaggeration, of course. We also put tiny amounts of ground cloves, nutmeg, or ginger in certain kinds of baked goods, and a few people even put black pepper on their food.)

Re:japanese will eat anything i swear. (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 4 years ago | (#31796746)

Making statements on Japanese culture based on Iron Chef is only slightly less ridiculous than basing it based on Dragonball Z. Your average Japanese person probably hasn't eaten fish ice cream. The point of the show is to show off creativity in cooking, so you get dishes that have never before seen a dinner plate and probably never will again. Iron Chef America makes some crazy dishes, I'd be surprised if there hasn't been some type of meat ice cream or sorbet on it (I wouldn't know, I could never get into the American version).

True, they eat some seafood that we don't. Why anyone decided squid was a good thing to fry up on a stick and eat is beyond me, and I was quite weirded out to see octopus tentacle in a supermarket. But most of the odd Japanese foods are seafood, which makes sense considering how much coast they have. If you ask me, eating unagi is much more sane than eating sheep heart, liver and lungs (aka haggis). And I really don't want to know what parts of the chicken go into delicious chicken nuggets.

Anyway in my experience, they're not fond of Root Beer. They say it tastes "like the dentists office" whatever that means. So there's at least one food that we eat that weirds them out.

Re:japanese will eat anything i swear. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31796846)

On Iron Chef America they have made Bacon Ice Cream. Supposedly it was delicious.

As for the Root Beer, root beer tastes similar to tooth paste. Next time you have some, or brush your teeth, pay attention to how close the taste is.

Re:japanese will eat anything i swear. (1)

jaavaaguru (261551) | more than 4 years ago | (#31796862)

Some people are just unadventurous or don't know where to find interesting foods. I've had everything you've mentioned there locally here in California (except the haggis, which I had in Scotland).

I'm actually not fond of root beer either... i guess its taste does resemble the pink mouthwash that some dentists use.

If you think the fish ice cream is weird, you should try a meat cocktail [time.com] (as in the alcoholic type served at a bar)...

Re:japanese will eat anything i swear. (1)

timmarhy (659436) | more than 4 years ago | (#31796890)

i'm not trying to defend haggis, it's aweful, but atleast it's cooked.

the fact is the japanese are into anything and everything, as proof i'll refer you to some crap called "swollows nest". i found the following description:

"The swiftlet lives in dark caves, using a method of echolocation similar to the bat to get around. Instead of twigs and straw, the swiftlet makes its nest from strands of its own gummy saliva, which hardens when exposed to air."

I doubt any westerner would see that on the side of a cave wall and think "YUM that looks like food"

dont' get me wrong, i love oriental foods ( i went to a japanese resturant just 2 weeks ago). but they are definately more out there when it comes to what they will eat then we are.

Re:japanese will eat anything i swear. (1)

oldhack (1037484) | more than 4 years ago | (#31796906)

Next time you go there, ask for sea slug. Hmm.... sea slug...

That bird nest thing was Chinese, I thought.

Re:japanese will eat anything i swear. (1)

timmarhy (659436) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797070)

idunno, but eating the dry spittle of some cave dwelling bird seems universally unappealing. if you've ever seen the mess of feathers and shit in a birds nest you'll understand.

Re:japanese will eat anything i swear. (1)

JanneM (7445) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797006)

Swallow's nest is a Chinese dish, not Japanese. And if I've understood it right, it's kind of a "stunt" dish in China as well.

"but they are definately more out there when it comes to what they will eat then we are."

I'm Swedish, and whenever conversation with some Japanese colleague or new acquaintance is about food, the subject invariably drifts to surströmming (sour herring), which they find inexplicable that anyone would eat. Food being "out there" is most definitely in the eye of the beholder.

Re:japanese will eat anything i swear. (1)

timmarhy (659436) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797234)

each country has dishs that are odd for sure, but for pure volume of strange, it's hard to beat asians.

Re:japanese will eat anything i swear. (1)

JanneM (7445) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797322)

"each country has dishs that are odd for sure, but for pure volume of strange, it's hard to beat asians."

What, Asia is one country? You are collecting the weird foods of forty-odd different nations with completely different cultures spread over half the world and comparing to the foods of your own home.

Re:japanese will eat anything i swear. (1)

timmarhy (659436) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797508)

asia is a continent not a country.

Re:japanese will eat anything i swear. (1)

NulDevice (186369) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797588)

If anyone can beat the japanese, it's the Icelanders. Hakarl? Svid? I'll eat the "weird" things in the back of my local chinese deli, but I draw the line at icelandic rotted shark meat.

Re:japanese will eat anything i swear. (1)

vbraga (228124) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797474)

I had never heard of surströmming before. And after reading about it on Wikipedia I think I'm going to throw up. I'll never think again of Sweden as a civilized place. :(

Re:japanese will eat anything i swear. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31797254)

i'm not trying to defend haggis, it's aweful, but atleast it's cooked.

the fact is the japanese are into anything and everything, as proof i'll refer you to some crap called "swollows nest". i found the following description:

"The swiftlet lives in dark caves, using a method of echolocation similar to the bat to get around. Instead of twigs and straw, the swiftlet makes its nest from strands of its own gummy saliva, which hardens when exposed to air."

I doubt any westerner would see that on the side of a cave wall and think "YUM that looks like food"

dont' get me wrong, i love oriental foods ( i went to a japanese resturant just 2 weeks ago). but they are definately more out there when it comes to what they will eat then we are.

Swallows nest is traditionally a Chinese dish. Not Japanese.

Re:japanese will eat anything i swear. (1)

jonadab (583620) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797566)

> And I really don't want to know what parts of
> the chicken go into delicious chicken nuggets.

It's probably not as bad as you might think.

It's not the breast meat, obviously, because there's too much market for that as chicken breasts. That's the most commercially valuable portion (probably mostly because of the way it's one great big piece with no bones and usually not too much fat). About 70% of the chicken meat that's sold as whole pieces, at least around here, is breast meat, even though it's about 20% of the meat on the chicken. The remainder of many of those chickens is left over, so it goes into processed chicken.

Most of the rest of the chicken meat that's sold separately as whole pieces is drumsticks, sometimes with thighs attached, sometimes not. And lately restaurants have been selling a lot of Buffalo wings.

But the other edible meat parts are not so prized for sale as separate pieces, so they mostly end up in processed chicken, including nuggets. So you're looking at the back, as much of the neck meat as they can easily get off the bones, a few of the thighs and legs, ... basically, it's meat. Not the highly-prized breast meat, but still meat.

The worse thing about processed chicken is the fact that it's usually breaded and deep fried.

Re:japanese will eat anything i swear. (1)

jonadab (583620) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797624)

> they're not fond of Root Beer. They say it tastes
> "like the dentists office" whatever that means

I bet I can guess.

Flouride, in the kinds of concentrations that are needed to make an effective twice-a-year fluoride treatment, such as the one a dentist might give you as a child, has a fairly strong taste, which is widely considered unpleasant. In an attempt to make it more palatable, it is often "covered up" with strong food-treat flavors. The most popular flavor for this is a flavor called "bubble gum", but root beer is another one that sometimes gets used, and there are a couple of others as well. I think "grape" (like a cheap purple popsicle, not the flavor of actual grapes) might be another.

Note that the bubble-gum fluoride treatments don't taste all that much like bubble gum, and the root beer ones don't taste all that much like root beer, and so on. The fluoride taste is unmistakably still present in all of them. But there *is* some resemblance to the nominal flavor, perhaps enough that, if you'd had the fluoride treatments repeatedly and learned to hate them before encountering bubble gum or root beer for the first time, you might have a negative reaction.

American kids, of course, have all had bubble gum and root beer many times before they ever have the fluoride treatments, so they don't make the backwards association.

Re:japanese will eat anything i swear. (1)

manwargi (1361031) | more than 4 years ago | (#31796954)

The pilgrims and native Americans had eel during the first Thanksgiving.

Re:japanese will eat anything i swear. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31797116)

... for cripes sake.

Crepes and sake? Is that like beer and flapjacks?

Re:japanese will eat anything i swear. (3, Insightful)

Cadallin (863437) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797380)

Which has what to do with eel? Eel is fucking delicious. Its not even "weird." Its just a long thin fish fillet.

For what its worth, Eel consumption is also rather common in any area of Europe where Eel happens to be found, its not at all some "crazy" unique Japanese thing.

Re:japanese will eat anything i swear. (1)

jonadab (583620) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797394)

> i swear that culutre would eat anything, they make fish ice cream

Yeah? Less than two days ago my sister was talking about how she wanted to try the chocolate-covered bacon recipe she saw in a Taste of Home magazine. Chocolate-covered bacon, no fooling. My dad said hey, if you're going to do that, why not take the idea to its logical conclusion and make bacon s'mores?

Every country has some weird cuisine.

Not that I'm volunteering to eat sushi. I like my fish cooked, thank you very much.

Now, all they have to do, is figure out... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31796754)

Now, the Japanese need to figure out how to research Whales without killing them.... Their operations in Antarctica are killing them off, and in protected waters yet.

tasty! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31796764)

I bet it tastes better and is better for you than Japanese dolphin/porpoise meat.
I saw The Cove and can't believe it.

A Solution? (1)

IonOtter (629215) | more than 4 years ago | (#31796786)

FTA: "...a means to save the animal from overfishing and possible extinction have been found. "

Actually, it's cheaper and better to simply stop fishing for them altogether for a few years. Just leave them alone and they'll come back reasonably quick, if you haven't, y'know, BUILT OVER their spawning beds or anything.

Re:A Solution? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31797642)

Actually, it's cheaper and better if you spend a few years actually learning what you're talking about.

The unagi's spawning bed was only recently identified, as some sea mounts near Mariana Islands. [wikipedia.org] Kind of hard to build over that.

Good to see (1)

hyades1 (1149581) | more than 4 years ago | (#31796872)

I guess there's a small lamprey of hope for this fishery.

Think of the (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31796878)

hentai!!

Great (1)

burris (122191) | more than 4 years ago | (#31796958)

Maybe now I'll be able to get properly prepared fresh eel instead of that frozen, precooked, and precut crap that's reheated in a toaster oven and covered with sesame seeds.

Co3@k (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31797108)

RAM) for 4bout 20

Unagi or Anago? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31797224)

The OP mentions sushi and unagi. Unagi is traditionally served on a bowl rice in a donburi style, not as sushi.
You shouldn't be able to find unagi in a Japanese sushi restaurant in Japan. You should find anago. One is from a river .. one is from the sea.
Western sushi shops sell unagi since anago is rarely exported from japan.

Re:Unagi or Anago? (3, Interesting)

rworne (538610) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797362)

Funny you mention that.

Unagi is horribly expensive ($18/US per package) if you want the Japanese-sourced unagi. The Chinese unagi is much cheaper ($4-5/US per package), but there have been problems with the chemicals, antibiotics, and other crap they feed them.

Anago is readily available here in Los Angeles at a moderate price, but unagi kabayaki is definitely where its at.

Dentist's office shouldn't have an aftertaste (1)

wrencherd (865833) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797264)

If you think root beer tastes like the dentist's office, I'd say you're drinking the wrong root beer . . . and you should seriously reconsider allowing your dentist to put you under at your next cleaning.

Sushi, sure, but more importantly, cookies! (2, Interesting)

Shag (3737) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797466)

Unagi is a key ingredient in Unagi Pai, which I think is the yummiest cookie made with ground-up eel bones in the whole world. :)

The Japanese Ministry of Agriculture ... (5, Funny)

DriedClexler (814907) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797490)

So is *this* finally an example of something the Japanese Ministry of Agriculture is in charge of? Because I know we ruled out their authority with respect to Gundum.

great (1)

Khashishi (775369) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797546)

now if they can only do the same thing for bluefin tuna, while it's still extant.

Hovercraft? (1)

BetterSense (1398915) | more than 4 years ago | (#31797548)

私のホーバークラフトは、鰻でいっぱいです。

Does slashdot not like Japanese?

"Cat got your tongue? (something important seems to be missing from your comment ... like the body or the subject!)"

That's great, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31797614)

wake me when they can clone vending machine panties.

Unagi? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31797638)

Eel 8-[

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