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Review of Adobe Creative Suite 5

CmdrTaco posted more than 4 years ago | from the draw-me-a-picture dept.

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Barence writes "Adobe today updated its Creative Suite software to version 5, and PC Pro has an absolutely massive collection of reviews. Along with an overview of the entire suite, from Design to Web to Production bundles, every individual component gets the full in-depth treatment. It includes video demonstrations of Photoshop CS5's fabulous Content-Aware fill trick and new Puppet Warp function; a long-awaited step up to 64-bit for Premiere Pro CS5; and big updates to Dreamweaver CS5, After Effects CS5, and the rest."

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204 comments

Nuts. (5, Funny)

tsm_sf (545316) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816200)

Aw man, my CS4 torrent had just finally finished.

FLOSS alternative? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31816394)

n/t

Re:FLOSS alternative? (5, Insightful)

MrNaz (730548) | more than 4 years ago | (#31817244)

There's no FLOSS alternative to the Adobe suite.
Photoshop vs GIMP = No contest
Illustrator vs Inkscape = Maybe passable alternative
Premiere vs Cinelerra = Don't make me vomit
OnLocation vs dvgrab+kino+some other misc tools = Well, it's like saying that you can do anything emacs can do with sed, awk, grep and cat.

InDesign has no FLOSS alternative. Yea, there are toolsets that can do the things that OnLocation, Encore, AfterEffects etc can do, but they're just a bunch of tools with no integration. The Adobe suite is a whole, integrated polished set of products.

I think if you want to see an example of what the open source method of software design (many people scratching their own little itch and putting the resultant code into a gigantic unsorted global code library) can *not* do, look at the Adobe Suite.

Re:FLOSS alternative? (1, Offtopic)

tsm_sf (545316) | more than 4 years ago | (#31817652)

While I was just joking re the torrent, I think this is a legitimate reason to pirate the software if you're in the field (or want to be) and not well off. In fact I doubt if Adobe would lose much money if they just made the package free for private individuals. I don't think I'm alone in seeing a difference between personal and corporate copyright violation.

Re:FLOSS alternative? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31817976)

Translation:
"I believe in morality but I don't think I'm significant enough to have to abide by it".

Re:FLOSS alternative? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31817994)

You can get a steep discount if you're a student. Take a class at a community college & buy it through the bookstore if you want to learn the suite. The alternatives should really be ok, though, if you're not doing it commercially, and if you are you can afford to buy it.

Re:Nuts. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31816480)

Don't worry, I'm sure you'll be able to download a trojaned copy of the new version by the end of the week.

Re:Nuts. (1)

d3ac0n (715594) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816634)

Time to start on the new CS5 torrent!

I wonder if TPB has it yet?

Re:Nuts. (1)

poetmatt (793785) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816760)

check demonoid if not TPB. Demonoid now lists torrents even if you are not registered.

Any update on the export to iPhone? (1, Insightful)

recoiledsnake (879048) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816214)

Hope they atleast release the Actionscript to Obj-C cross compiler so that people can at least attempt to use it for themselves, if not distribute it through the App Store.

Re:Any update on the export to iPhone? (5, Interesting)

c_sd_m (995261) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816240)

Hope they atleast release the Actionscript to Obj-C cross compiler so that people can at least attempt to use it for themselves, if not distribute it through the App Store.

Or for enterprise (proprietary, in-house) use.

Re:Any update on the export to iPhone? (2, Informative)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816576)

Uh, why is this flamebait? Corporate customers can push apps to their iPhones without going via the App Store and, as far as I know, the restriction on non-native apps only extends to the App Store.

Re:Any update on the export to iPhone? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31816720)

The Zealotry is now in full-force over this Flash thing - any comment that is remotely positive about Adobe is getting modbombed, either by an Apple catamite or a dirty freetard hippie.

Its funny to think about the tears of rage spewing forth inside of mom's basements across the world over something so trivial.

Re:Any update on the export to iPhone? (0, Offtopic)

pcolaman (1208838) | more than 4 years ago | (#31817250)

And why is this modded offtopic? Poor butt-hurt Apple fans getting mod points = sad slashdotters

Gushing, ignoring the important issues (5, Interesting)

Blakey Rat (99501) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816242)

It's not an overview, it's a gushing, excited press release. And it doesn't even drop one word on my most important concern: is Adobe continuing their trend of writing awful, inconsistent, ugly, usually-slow UIs?

The fact that that, after Macromedia's was acquired, I'd actually pay extra to get Flash 8's UI back... well, that tells you something. How the hell do you write a UI worse than Macromedia's? That takes the kind of talent only Adobe can offer I guess... IBM should hire these guys to do Lotus Notes next. ;)

Re:Gushing, ignoring the important issues (3, Insightful)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816286)

I've been dabbling with these products for years now and it just never seems like the extra bloat and resource hogging provides enough additional return to make it worth the effort.

Re:Gushing, ignoring the important issues (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31816478)

No kidding. I buy new versions when I need a new license, to keep it all legal, but I keep installing Photoshop v.7 because I don't use most of the new features and I don't need the bloat or the DRM nonsense either.

Re:Gushing, ignoring the important issues (1)

jackbird (721605) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816494)

I have a copy of PS6 I got from Amazon Marketplace and keep it concurrently installed with CSwhatever. If I don't need the brush effects, Vanishing Point, layer groups, match color, or Extract for what I'm doing, it blows current versions out of the water on startup time and responsiveness.

Re:Gushing, ignoring the important issues (1)

pcolaman (1208838) | more than 4 years ago | (#31817300)

You know, it's sad that you have to keep a license up-to-date for software you've already paid for. Unless it's just a matter of getting new plug-ins or programs on new CS versions that you use concurrently with Photoshop v.7

Re:Gushing, ignoring the important issues (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816606)

I watched the pre-release video, and the context- or content- or whatever it's called -aware fill knocked my socks off. I mean, literally. I can't even find them now. I may have to photoshop some into my pictures in the future to avoid looking like Don Johnson. Photoshop CS5 is a game-changer if this feature works half as well as it did in the demo.

Re:Gushing, ignoring the important issues (1)

Zocalo (252965) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816680)

Don't worry. The Content Aware fill in the Extended version of Photoshop is more than up to that particular challenge - check out the demo! [youtube.com] [YouTube video link for those at work]

Re:Gushing, ignoring the important issues (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816814)

Photoshop CS5 is a game-changer if this feature works half as well as it did in the demo.

Yeah, just wait until you see how it works in the wild. [blogspot.com]

Re:Gushing, ignoring the important issues (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31817038)

They're just ripping off the Gimp [logarithmic.net] , again (from the Fedora 4 era).

Hey Mods: (-1, Offtopic)

Blakey Rat (99501) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816354)

Redundant how?

It's only the second post on the topic, and it's the first one that talks about the UI of the product. How exactly is it redundant? Where's the redundancy? How about if you want to abuse the mod system you do so in a less blatantly-obvious way?

Re:Hey Mods: (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31816410)

Aaaaa quit ur bitchin' beatch, mods are all-knowing and your posting would be redundant in the future. Future times, so rejoice!!

Re:Gushing, ignoring the important issues (3, Informative)

PenguSven (988769) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816380)

is Adobe continuing their trend of writing awful, inconsistent, ugly, usually-slow UIs?

This came up a while ago, on John Nack (PS product manager)'s blog. Basically they think their custom UI stuff for CS is the beez knees, and you unlucky shmoes who "have to use" CS will be getting MORE not less of their crap in future (including CS5) versions.

Re:Gushing, ignoring the important issues (2, Informative)

rinoid (451982) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816506)

They also blame all bugs on Apple or in the case of not being able to save file error "Could not save (file name) because the file is already in use or left open" ...

Seriously. Check out this thread. The only app on any Mac or Windows computer I use (and that's a handful) which gives this kind of error and Adobe blames the OS vendors. All those other apps which save files never report this problem, EVER!

What is Adobe's reply? It's outside of Photoshop, it's NOT ADOBE's problem.
Check out the thread at Adobe forums:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/2712066 [adobe.com]

Also required reading for this thread:
http://innerdaemon.wordpress.com/2010/04/10/sorry-adobe-you-screwed-yourself/ [wordpress.com]

Adobe has become quite arrogant and unfocused IMO. The problem is for me the lack of a Photoshop competitor. I use Illustrator less than a long time ago so the various replacements work well in this space.

Re:Gushing, ignoring the important issues (1)

anss123 (985305) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816596)

The only app on any Mac or Windows computer I use (and that's a handful) which gives this kind of error and Adobe blames the OS vendors.

I've gotten that with MS Excel but only on networked drives. Had to save as another file and then log off/on because I couldn't simply unmap the drive "while a file is in use". Sigh.

Re:Gushing, ignoring the important issues (1)

Devout_IPUite (1284636) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816622)

It's also standard for them to abstain for accepting responsibility for flash bugs. : /

Re:Gushing, ignoring the important issues (1)

Idiomatick (976696) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816390)

CS5 comes with content-aware fill also known as magic. Every review of it will be entranced. Seriously, that shit is crazy.

Re:Gushing, ignoring the important issues (1)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 4 years ago | (#31817312)

CS5 comes with content-aware fill also known as magic. Every review of it will be entranced. Seriously, that shit is crazy.

Brought to you by the secret FM.dll file.

Re:Gushing, ignoring the important issues (1)

imakemusic (1164993) | more than 4 years ago | (#31817460)

Yeah, but...is it actually any good?

Re:Gushing, ignoring the important issues (1)

mehrotra.akash (1539473) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816542)

If the interfaces are always "awful, inconsistent, ugly, usually-slow UIs?" then they are consistently "awful, inconsistent, ugly, usually-slow UIs?" rather than inconsistently

Re:Gushing, ignoring the important issues (1)

Painted (1343347) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816580)

Yeah I agree- the article is basically a "Adobe bundles their apps like this; which bundle is for you?" Hardly a review.

Re:Gushing, ignoring the important issues (1)

whisper_jeff (680366) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816590)

The fact that that, after Macromedia's was acquired...

Adobe stopped caring because they didn't have any real competition and thus could simply coast along because, really, who were they going to lose customers to? I'm kind of surprised that buyout was allowed given that it completely removed any hint of competition in the graphics software market. And, as I said, since that buyout, the quality of Adobe's software has taken a dramatic downturn showing they know they don't have to try as hard, any more.

And my guess is, so long as the patent system functions as it is, nobody will ever be able to come along and create a suite of software to compete with them now that they own virtually every patent related to graphics production through software...

Re:Gushing, ignoring the important issues (1)

icebraining (1313345) | more than 4 years ago | (#31817400)

There's always the European market. Especially since 'round here Adobe software is even more expensive [amanwithapencil.com] .

Re:Gushing, ignoring the important issues (3, Insightful)

BlackPignouf (1017012) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816600)

PROTIP: Stop caring about the UI, learn some keyboard shortcuts every day, and use Photoshop in fullscreen mode with as few panels as possible (e.g. histogram, layers and layers adjustments)

Re:Gushing, ignoring the important issues (1)

Blakey Rat (99501) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816746)

The only part of the suite I use is Flash, which is why the UI stuff annoys me. Flash's UI was poor before, now it's godawful. And this is one app the keyboard can't save you from.

The good news is that I can edit ActionScript in another IDE. The bad news is that Flash has zero integration with external tools.

Re:Gushing, ignoring the important issues (1)

lurker412 (706164) | more than 4 years ago | (#31818064)

Yes, that's right. Photoshop is a terrible choice for casual users, not only because of the UI but because the power and sophistication make it difficult to learn. The UI is actually not a problem at all for experienced, professional users.

Re:Gushing, ignoring the important issues (1)

poetmatt (793785) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816772)

please no. lotus is bad enough as it is. I'd use thunderbird instantly if our work approved it.

Re:Gushing, ignoring the important issues (1)

pcolaman (1208838) | more than 4 years ago | (#31817320)

Agreed. We use lotus as well and it jacks up on a daily basis.

Re:Gushing, ignoring the important issues (1)

EnsilZah (575600) | more than 4 years ago | (#31817410)

I've been using Adobe software for a while now and I've only found the UI somewhat inconsistent and uncomfortable when it comes to manipulating vector art, I can see how coming from using Macromedia software that might affect you.
On the whole though it seems pretty consistent and simple to me.
If you want to see a real UI clusterfuck take a look at Autodesk Maya, it's like a makeshift rusty skeleton covered with cruft sticking out every which way.

Re:Gushing, ignoring the important issues (2, Informative)

Blakey Rat (99501) | more than 4 years ago | (#31817792)

I can't comment on Maya (maybe it's worse, I dunno), but Adobe's current set of projects are pretty damned horrible.

Take a look at this blog (not mine): http://adobegripes.tumblr.com/ [tumblr.com] Even ignoring the stuff that plain does not work at all (the majority of the Fireworks entries), there are tons of extremely obvious errors in the UI.

Re:Gushing, ignoring the important issues (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31817426)

is Adobe continuing their trend of writing awful, inconsistent, ugly, usually-slow UIs?

I could not agree more, maybe Adobe could learn from the proven UI of similar Open [gimp.org] Source [wikipedia.org] apps.

Upgrade policy? (1)

chill (34294) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816270)

I just purchased Dreamweaver CS4 3 weeks ago. I wonder what their upgrade policy is?

Re:Upgrade policy? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31816342)

I just purchased Dreamweaver CS4 3 weeks ago. I wonder what their upgrade policy is?

I'd imagine their upgrade policy is "Yes, we want you to buy the upgrade as well."

Re:Upgrade policy? (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816414)

And if you don't upgrade they will send their cops to get you.

Oh wait, I read that as "upgrade police".

Carry on.

Re:Upgrade policy? (1)

pcolaman (1208838) | more than 4 years ago | (#31817346)

What's the difference between upgrade policy and upgrade police?

Re:Upgrade policy? (2, Informative)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816348)

According to everything I read on the web, if you purchase it after the announcement (which is today) then they'll give you a free upgrade. But before that, you get bupkis.

Re:Upgrade policy? (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816432)

What do you mean? An African or European bupkis?

Re:Upgrade policy? (1)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 4 years ago | (#31817370)

What do you mean? An African or European bupkis?

AMERICAN bupkis, you commie pinko! Go clack your coconuts together somewhere else...

Re:Upgrade policy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31816574)

But before that, you get bupkis.

As long as it is Bupkis CS5 and not Bupkis CS4, I'm OK with that.

Re:Upgrade policy? (1)

sehryan (412731) | more than 4 years ago | (#31817662)

And no offense, but it has been known for the last month at least that CS5 was getting ready to launch. If you went ahead and purchased CS4, and could have waited those few weeks, well, you have no one to blame but yourself.

Re:Upgrade policy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31816376)

It hasn't exactly been a secret that CS5 was coming out soon. Why didn't you just wait if you want it so bad? And if you couldn't wait because you needed it, then CS4 must fill your need, so why worry about CS5?

Re:Upgrade policy? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31816512)

Check out KB article from Adobe. Maybe it will answer your question? [adobe.com]

At my work we always get the 24 month upgrade plan with any software we purchase from the Creative Suite. We buy Design Premium for $320 and the upgrade plan only costs an extra $120, although we do get the software at educational pricing so I'm not sure how much it would be for others.

Re:Upgrade policy? (1)

chill (34294) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816570)

Bless you! I filled out the form and I'll see what Adobe says.

Re:Upgrade policy? (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816668)

You might want to check with local laws. In the UK, for example, you are still within the time period when you can return any goods (in their original packaging) without having to justify it. It will probably be cheaper to return it and by CS5 than pay for an upgrade.

Re:Upgrade policy? (1)

MachineShedFred (621896) | more than 4 years ago | (#31817556)

Their policy is "Thanks for buying that. Now give us $799 for the new version."

What you bought still functions just as good today as it did yesterday when CS5 wasn't available, so they will not feel any compulsion to give you a break on upgrading, especially since they have no competition for you to run away to.

a long-awaited step up to 64-bit (-1, Offtopic)

tokul (682258) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816274)

how about long awaited dollar/euro exchange fix? You can't get 1.2 euros for 1 dollar in normal world.

Aaaaargghh (3, Insightful)

MoleyGhost (1065694) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816284)

I TOLD my company to wait a couple months, but noooo, they just HAD to go and buy CS4 last week...

Re:Aaaaargghh (2, Informative)

LifesABeach (234436) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816464)

for an extra $900, they can upgrade...

Re:Aaaaargghh (1)

XeXeN (48797) | more than 4 years ago | (#31817440)

My company decide to listen to me...

Cue the open source fanboys... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31816340)

Cue the open source fanboys claiming there already exists open source copy cats that have all the new features present in this release. Of course, they will be wrong because the open source implementations will 1) unstable, 2) only usable from the command line and/or in reality only implement about 5% of what it does in CS5. If the latter, the remaining 95% will be labeled as "of no importance". Of course, this is due to the remaining 95% actually being the hard part to implement, coincidentally also the 95% that people actually want to use.

How long until, (-1, Troll)

areusche (1297613) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816364)

I can download this at my friendly neighborhood bit torrent tracker?

Re:How long until, (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816444)

Depends. Did your friendly neighbour pay for next-day delivery?

Preorder Now (1)

kdogg73 (771674) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816370)

Ships within 30-days.

Content Aware Fill This (1)

shadowrat (1069614) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816420)

I really want to see how content aware fill deals with missing text. What happens when it tries to reconstruct half of a no parking sign or a billboard? i bet it does some funkly things when it has to add in a face.

i'm not picking on it. i just think the results would be interesting and amusing.

Content-Aware Fill = Old (0, Offtopic)

supersloshy (1273442) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816424)

For the record, GIMP has had a functionality similar to the content aware fill for YEARS. It's called the GIMP Resynthesizer plugin and if you're running a linux distribution that uses package repositories, it's probably in there. This blog post [omgubuntu.co.uk] is one of the many that points this out.

Re:Content-Aware Fill = Old (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31816498)

Except that actually involves using GIMP... GIMP. People like me can't stand the interface despite the nifty features it may or may not have.

Re:Content-Aware Fill = Old (1, Troll)

omnichad (1198475) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816896)

I can't stand the interface either. Have you tried GIMPShop [gimpshop.com] ?

Re:Content-Aware Fill = Old (5, Insightful)

supersloshy (1273442) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816900)

Except that actually involves using GIMP... GIMP. People like me can't stand the interface despite the nifty features it may or may not have.

From what I can gather, the main reason people despise the GIMP UI is because they're so used to the designs of other programs. I've heard it said before that people that get used to GIMP, when they try Photoshop, find its UI to be "horrible" as well. Personally I like the GIMP interface and I don't see what's so horrible about it; might I remind you that if you hate its current UI so much, GIMP 2.8 (being released later this year) will have a single window mode so people don't complain as loud.

Re:Content-Aware Fill = Old (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31816850)

Modded Troll by open source fanboys, but nevertheless: http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1615134&cid=31816340

Re:Content-Aware Fill = Old (1)

4D6963 (933028) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816916)

Content-aware filling is old in the same way anything else is old. It was around a long time ago but it sucked. Hopefully this one is much better.

Eclipse, Java, GIMP, Blender3D > CS5? (2, Interesting)

LifesABeach (234436) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816450)

I think a Bench Marks applied here would be most telling.

Re:Eclipse, Java, GIMP, Blender3D CS5? (1)

HopefulIntern (1759406) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816538)

As much as I have tried (and I have really, really tried) I cannot use GIMP to anywhere near the same level as PS. I think it still has some way to go before it is a serious competitor (but on the other hand, GIMP is really useful for the odd resizing a photo for the web and little things like that).

Re:Eclipse, Java, GIMP, Blender3D CS5? (1)

LifesABeach (234436) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816630)

I know PS is what is taught in the Secondary Schools, and several Colleges. There is a "Skin" that gives GIMP the look and feel of PS. [slashdot.org] But I do wonder what the equivalent to Illistrator would be?

Re:Eclipse, Java, GIMP, Blender3D CS5? (3, Informative)

vbraga (228124) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816984)

Inkscape [inkscape.org] ?

Re:Eclipse, Java, GIMP, Blender3D CS5? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31817340)

"But I do wonder what the equivalent to Illistrator would be"

Inkscape.

Re:Eclipse, Java, GIMP, Blender3D CS5? (1)

ducomputergeek (595742) | more than 4 years ago | (#31817580)

I don't use the tools on a daily basis like I did 5 years ago, but I've been playing with Blender since 1.25 days in 1998. And to this day, I still can't produce as good of results out the box without tweaking the hell out of things in blender as I can with Lightwave. And I started using Lightwave about the same 1998 time frame. And if we want to talk horrible UI interfaces, Blender takes the cake. I remember it was like someone took the worst features of Lightwave's 5.4's UI and designed an entire program around them. Really, it took me a couple YEARS to master the UI and about the time I had, they went and changed it all. And then proceeded to make more changes about every 6 months. It seems like every time I finally get a Blender UI down, it's time to upgrade and suddenly something has moved or doesn't work the same way any more. The biggest example was with the particle/physics engine. I had about 20 minutes worth animation finished (60k frames). Then suddenly the particle engine changed and at least half those files no longer worked. That kind rapid development cycle hurts it in professional production shops. It seems like Blender gets a feature that you've been dying to see for ages the price is anything you've been working on has to be redone. But even then, it seems like a lot of "new" features are stuff that I've seen Lightwave/Maya/MAX for years and at this point, they've got it refined.

Now as far as a tool to learn 3D animation, Blender is great to learn the basics. And if you have time, you can produce some amazing results. It's perfect for the hobby/enthusiast.

GIMP is a good alternative to Photoshop Elements. It does a lot of what I need up and until the point I really need to use filters and plug ins or really do some advanced color tweaking. That's where Photoshop has GIMP beat hands down. I have a few plugins I've bought over the years that allow me to do in minutes what would take a couple hours in GIMP by hand. As far as UI's go, GIMP has a better over all UI than Photoshop now other than the Tool bar in the image window instead of at the top of the application. That still annoys me. .

Re:Eclipse, Java, GIMP, Blender3D CS5? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31817548)

Stay with it! Eventually you will come through the other side prefering Gimp for most of your tasks. I have the choice between PS CS3 and Gimp at work*. I almost never use PS.

I was seriously annoyed by Gimp for ages, but eventually it changed.

*architect, heavy on the visualisation side.

In a word: no. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31817112)

Web work, sure. Corporate print work, not a chance. No Pantone support. Plus most of your clients will be sending you photoshop, illustrator and indesign files...

I predict (2, Insightful)

KnownIssues (1612961) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816456)

I predict a flood of funny photos on the Interwebz using Content-Aware Fill and Puppet Warp – probably with silly captions. More practical applications: removing an ex from all your photos, adding a secret crush to all your photos, and of course implausible uses in movies like removing the hero from live feeds so he can sneak past security cameras.

Next Internet meme (-1, Troll)

Yvanhoe (564877) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816540)

Brought to you by content-aware fill : The 300 LOLCATS ! FOR SPARTAAAA !

Re:I predict (3, Funny)

HopefulIntern (1759406) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816550)

removing an ex from all your photos

..and pasting her into pictures with hardcore porn. Pictures which then are posted on 4chan.

entirely new opportunites to create PS Disasters! (2, Funny)

bchernicoff (788760) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816496)

I cannot wait until poor applications of puppet warp show up on magazine covers and movie posters! http://photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com/ [blogspot.com]

Waste of time... (4, Interesting)

Roogna (9643) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816568)

Sadly after their ridiculous always broken DRM in CS3 I stopped buying Adobe products. The only unfortunate thing is that I've still yet to find a replacement for Illustrator since Freehand was killed. Ahh well...

Re:Waste of time... (3, Informative)

Devout_IPUite (1284636) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816656)

Have you played with Inkscape? If not, check it out. If yes, shucks.

#irc.troolta#lk.com (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31816748)

the fHuture 4olds

There's one thing missing (0, Troll)

XB-70 (812342) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816894)

I haven't been able to find the Linux version anywhere.

I wonder if Adobe "gets it" yet... (1)

pyrr (1170465) | more than 4 years ago | (#31816976)

Seriously, how could the design team at Adobe not realize there's a problem when they put all of their names on the splash screen, and each program loads slowly enough that the user can actually read them ALL?

I'll view it as substantial progress if Adobe ever just cleans-up the disaster that is their CS product to the degree that each app is no more than 10x the size of GIMP. It just never ceases to amaze me how a company can be so violently oblivious to the needs of its customers that it will say, "Go screw yourself!", when they complain about issues with a product. How long before people just start using Corel or GIMP instead of Photoshop? How much longer before PDFs fall by the wayside?

We're (hopefully) on the verge of seeing Flash, which has enjoyed unprecedented success as the primary web page interaction and video presentation engine, get kicked to the curb by HTML5. Why? Well, if it wasn't broken, it's not terribly likely anyone would be looking for a solution to replace it with. Maybe Adobe will take that as a cue to start looking at its other products and work on some optimization before it's too late.

How much... (1)

QuietLagoon (813062) | more than 4 years ago | (#31817032)

... did Adobe pay to have this thread here?

As predicted... (1)

The Living Fractal (162153) | more than 4 years ago | (#31817144)

I expected to see a LOT of Adobe hate here... And wasn't disappointed. Let's just use one example: Dreamweaver This is about the most unintuitive piece of overpriced trash I have ever used. I have never liked Dreamweaver and sadly it has only gotten worse over time. I suspect that they have a very rough future ahead. Flash is doomed IMHO. Someone needs to go slap the Adobe execs several times and yell "WAKE UP" until they realize how badly they're screwing themselves. /rant

Re:As predicted... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31818118)

As unintuitive as Dreamweaver may be, what's better out there? I'd really like to know, because I still haven't found anything free that's the equal of my ancient Dreamweaver 4 (not CS4, 4, from about 2000). My wife likes the newer versions of Dreamweaver, but 4 does all I need.

Content-aware filler? I love Resynthesizer too! (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31817172)

That content-aware feature has been all the rage with the general Internet population lately. I can agree how awesome it is, I've been enjoying it a lot with the Resynthesizer [logarithmic.net] plugin for GIMP for over a year now!

Did they fix 64bit Flash on Linux? (1)

Khan (19367) | more than 4 years ago | (#31817224)

Cause if they haven't, then it's still the same PoS as before. IMO, the entire CS suite has become nothing more than another glorified MS Office release. Lot's of stuff...nothing new.

Will they support non-administrative users? (1)

Mattsson (105422) | more than 4 years ago | (#31817388)

The most important questions are:

1. Will it work correctly when the user doesn't have administrative rights.
2. Will they have a network license system.

HTML5 (1)

quantumpineal (1724214) | more than 4 years ago | (#31817420)

Heh the review failed to mention the inclusion of a HTML5 export feature in flash. could be one of the biggest changes in the suite since its a WYSIWYG HTML5 editor, and maybe the only one currently on the market?

content aware (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31817690)

I, for one, welcome our new content-aware photoshop overlords.

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