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The World's Largest Data Centers

CmdrTaco posted more than 4 years ago | from the can-i-visit dept.

The Internet 87

1sockchuck writes "It seems data centers are getting bigger all the time. Who has the world's largest server farm? Data Center Knowledge has put together a list of 10 huge data centers, all between 400,000 and 1.1 million square feet. The story highlights the trend toward ever-bigger data centers, such as the Vegas SuperNAP and Microsoft's container data center, as well as established behemoths like the NAP of the Americas in Miami and Lakeside Technology Center in Chicago."

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world's largest e-peen (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31830992)

compensating much?

Re:world's largest e-peen (1)

MrNaz (730548) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831360)

Next up: How to rice your data center with NOS and Team Jetspeed decals!

They left out (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31831004)

your mom's black book. Ain't so little anymore.

And only 8 months behind schedule (0, Offtopic)

Lucas123 (935744) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831008)

It must take a really long time to put NAND flash chips on a board. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9136256/OCZ_to_release_1TB_SSD_this_month [computerworld.com]

Re:And only 8 months behind schedule (4, Funny)

Em Emalb (452530) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831172)

I'll take Guys who post in the wrong thread for $500, please Alex.

"This guy more than likely uses firefox and has at least two tabs open on slashdot." /hits buzzer

"Lucas123."
"Correct!"
"I'll take Guys who post in the wrong thread for $600, please Alex."

Re:And only 8 months behind schedule (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31831220)

"Who is Lucas123?" There fixed that for you.

Re:And only 8 months behind schedule (2, Funny)

Em Emalb (452530) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831238)

Oh, ones day I'll get you, Trebec! /shakes fist angrily.

Re:And only 8 months behind schedule (3, Funny)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831466)

Yeah, I mean why would you leave Activision in the first place? It's not like EA is any better.

Re:And only 8 months behind schedule (3, Funny)

NotBornYesterday (1093817) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831896)

Ohh, I'm sorry Em Emalb, but you have to state your answer in the form of a question. The judges were looking for "Who is Lucas123." "What is Lucas123" would also have been acceptable.

Re:And only 8 months behind schedule (1)

corbettw (214229) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831984)

Opera mini is one thing, but let me know when they finally approve Firefox. In the meantime, I'll stick with Safari.

Re:And only 8 months behind schedule (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31832444)

I have, on only one occasion clicked on a /. article and it has attached the wrong comments. I tried to find out why, but when I refreshed it fixed itself...crazy stuff. It happens.

Gaze and be amazed at the sights and the strength (3, Funny)

Luke has no name (1423139) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831074)

I love networking and datacenters... it seems very exciting to me to think about designing and maintaining a datacenter like that.

This [slashdot.org] was one of the most exciting threads I've ever read on Slashdot, if that tells you anything.

Re:Gaze and be amazed at the sights and the streng (3, Funny)

jimicus (737525) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831452)

You really need to get laid.

Re:Gaze and be amazed at the sights and the streng (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31834262)

If you consider getting laid important you really need to ... become an adult.

Re:Gaze and be amazed at the sights and the streng (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31836190)

Ah, so adults are joyless, sexless machines that keep the other machines running. How wonderful it must be to be an adult.
"Hope I die before I get old" never sounded truer.

Re:Gaze and be amazed at the sights and the streng (1)

carp3_noct3m (1185697) | more than 4 years ago | (#31836390)

If you don't consider getting some important then you really need to reduce masturbation frequency. Try going a month or two, and then tell me getting laid isn't important.

Re:Gaze and be amazed at the sights and the streng (1)

jetole (1242490) | more than 4 years ago | (#31855180)

You really need to get laid.

I really need to get laid to but you know what? I have servers in the NAP of the Americas. w00t!!! pwn3d!!! I loves it!!! who needs women anyways?

Re:Gaze and be amazed at the sights and the streng (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31836740)

trust me, it isn't

Hmm (4, Interesting)

The MAZZTer (911996) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831080)

Google didn't make the top 10? I'm shocked!

Re:Hmm (4, Funny)

Luke has no name (1423139) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831142)

They have 750 server farms vying for 11th.

Re:Hmm (-1, Flamebait)

Hylandr (813770) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831214)

That's because you can do more with less hardware running Linux than Windows. And since Linux doesn't BSOD redundancy is not as critical an issue.

Google also uses custom power supplies that tie in directly to 12v batteries for UPS requirements. Which means less space is required for traditional UPS systems and the HVAC overhead to keep those cool as well.

- Dan.

Re:Hmm (1)

Hohlraum (135212) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831290)

Preach on brother Beavis.

Re:Hmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31831294)

That's because you can do more with less hardware running Linux than Windows. And since Linux doesn't BSOD redundancy is not as critical an issue.

Hahaha.... you're kidding, right?

Re:Hmm (1)

HockeyPuck (141947) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831426)

That's because you can do more with less hardware running Linux than Windows. And since Linux doesn't BSOD redundancy is not as critical an issue.

So if you think this is true, why don't you make a proposal to MSFT's IT dept as a way to save them millions of dollars in hardware/power/cooling by deploying Linux.

Please give us an update after you have made your proposal.

Re:Hmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31831686)

You didn't tell him to watch out for flying chairs.

Re:Hmm (1)

Jazz-Masta (240659) | more than 4 years ago | (#31832710)

'Cause Windows 2008 Server core has SO MUCH overhead...

Exchange Server is extremely reliable and very scalable...there are very few products that are open source and/or free that have the same level of usability, stability and features.

I have both Unix and Windows servers and both have had very few problems. I think some of the misconceptions about Microsoft's products being prone to problems have more to do with the user than the software. It is possible that anyone who can download a torrent can walk through a basic installation of Windows Server and Exchange Server, and possibly start receiving email on it...but they will not be able to deal with any problems that arise.

Now, try installing Linux and Horde, and see how far the same person gets. It's not that hard, but definitely harder than installing Windows.

I don't agree with slashdot's historical comments about Windows admins/users being "worse" than Linux admins/users. It's just that there are far more unqualified Windows admins than there are Linux admins, simply because you can't fake it with Linux as well as you can with Windows.

I was an SCO admin first (um, I know, I know). I started on Slackware, moved to SCO, then got into Windows because that's what the market demanded of me in my area. I now do 80% Windows and 20% Unix. 0% Linux.

Now let's all be friends, and bash a company we can all agree on...SCO

Re:Hmm (1)

Spad (470073) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831460)

"Should we spec a 2nd server, you know, for HA?"
"Nah, it'll be running Linux; it never crashes and generates a magical aura that prevents hardware failures"

Re:Hmm (3, Insightful)

jimicus (737525) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831532)

Oh come on. Put the crack pipe down.

Every OS has its quirks. Windows has bluescreens, Unix has kernel panics. And even if you put together a hardware/OS combination that isn't particularly vulnerable to such things, you've still got application software to deal with.

When you categorically must have the system as a whole working, when "oh dear that server just died horribly" is not allowed to cause the system as a whole to come crashing down, redundancy is very much a critical issue - I don't care if you're talking about Windows, Linux or VMS.

Re:Hmm (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31833082)

The difference being that I haven't run into a Linux kernel panic that I didn't generate intentionally in more than a decade, whereas, I still regularly see a BSOD on Windows Vista and Windows 7 when I just disable a NIC or for a hundred other mundane-innocuous actions. WTF? Not even counting the paid-for UNIX variants, even stinking Ubuntu and Knoppix are several orders of magnititude more stable than Windows.

Re:Hmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31833904)

Wow, you must have done something really screwed up. I've not had any sort of system crash under Windows in half a decade, and that last time was bad RAM. Apparently you buy shitty hardware or go way out of your way to misconfigure your systems. Or you lie.

I suspect you lie.

Re:Hmm (1)

Hylandr (813770) | more than 4 years ago | (#31841562)

I was always wondering how many people patrol /. on the M$ Payroll and I think I just got a small answer.

The fact of the matter is I can launch an e commerce site or an email server and practically forget about it. With windows exchange server I would experience random failures for no good reason at all. Same with windows server. I spent more time on windows maint, and more money on windows licenses which always had to have a degree of more expensive hardware to perform the same.

I ran a national radio network off a machine with a Cryix server and red hat Linux.

What you were programmed or paid to believe just aint so.

- Dan.

Re:Hmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31831628)

But Windows doesn't system oops, so it kind of balances itself out.

Re:Hmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31833956)

A pro-Linux comment just got modded “flamebate”? Where's my /., and what've you done with it?!

Re:Hmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31841768)

The article makes it look like Google is more secretive than the NSA.

To help maintain secrecy, Google typically seeks permits for its data center projects using Limited Liability Corporations (LLCs) that don't mention Google, such as Lapis LLC (North Carolina) or Tetra LLC (Iowa). How many data centers does Google have? Nobody knows for sure, and the company isn't saying.

I suppose the last guy to divulge any information has been quietly offed.

1.3 million square feet (4, Informative)

OzPeter (195038) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831130)

While it won't be filled up with computer equipment, Quality Technology Services just bought the former Qimonda fab plant in Richmond VA [timesdispatch.com] for use as a data centre. At 1.3 million square feet it ranks (according the link) as one of largest in the USA. Who knows how much of it will be actually used, as I heard an interview with the CEO that said one of the reasons they bought the site was because it had "room for growth".

Re:1.3 million square feet (3, Funny)

value_added (719364) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831398)

[T]he CEO that said one of the reasons they bought the site was because it had "room for growth".

I too have room for growth in my Command Center, just as soon as I finish clearing out that stack of old magazines where the router and CB Radio are sitting. Hmm. Come to think of it, I need another power strip.

Is A BotNet (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31831166)

considered to be a "Data Center"?

Yours In Astrakhan,
Kilgore Trout

Ruined my view (2, Funny)

blackchiney (556583) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831254)

I used to live right across the street from the Terramark NAP in downtown Miami. Then the fuckers put up 3 big satellite dishes on the roof and blocked my view of the bay. I'm not bitter but I used to get so much tail with that view. :-)

Re:Ruined my view (1)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 4 years ago | (#31840194)

Well, if you get on another roof, and shoot the dishes down?
Of course “the wind” would be a better excuse. ^^

Re:Ruined my view (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31844094)

Explain that to the guys with weapons inside that building after you shoot at their equipment, no a rent-a-cop is not going to show at your door either

The 10 (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31831256)

Since the site is being clobbered and doesn't have a huge datacentre...

10. The SuperNAP, Las Vegas (Switch Communications)
9A and 9B. Microsoft Data Centers in Quincy Washington and San Antonio
8. CH1, Elk Grove Village, Ill. (DuPont Fabros)
7. Phoenix ONE, Phoenix (i/o Data Centers)
6. Microsoft Dublin (Microsoft)
5. Container Data Center, Chicago (Microsoft)
4. NGD Europe, Newport Wales (Next Generation Data)
3. The NAP of the Americas, Miami (Terremark)
2. Metro Technology Center, Atlanta (Quality Technology)
1. 350 East Cermak / Lakeside Technology Center (Digital Realty)

Re:The 10 (0, Offtopic)

Icegryphon (715550) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831482)

Now I can think of 11 places that just became great bullseye like the center of the Pentagon.

Re:The 10 (1)

PmanAce (1679902) | more than 4 years ago | (#31833218)

Now I can think of another American that has become brain washed with terroristic fears.

Three are in Chicago (1)

Animats (122034) | more than 4 years ago | (#31833060)

The most popular location in the top 10 is Chicago, IL, with three of the largest data centers. 350 E. Cermak is across from Chicago's convention center. Elk Grove Village is west of O'Hare Airport.

Why Chicago? It's a central US location. It doesn't get too hot. Power reliability is good. Transportation access is good. Earthquakes, hurricanes, and floods are rare. There are many big, solid industrial buildings available. It's not as depressed as Detroit or Cleveland.

Re:Three are in Chicago (1)

twmcneil (942300) | more than 4 years ago | (#31833268)

It's Chicago. I can guarantee you nepotism was involved.

Re:The 10 (2, Insightful)

frinkster (149158) | more than 4 years ago | (#31833498)

#1, #5, and #8 in Chicago?

In the 1600s French explorers wrote about finding a location in the center of the new world which would be the most strategic location for controlling shipping by water. Indeed, for many years in the 1800s Chicago was the busiest port in the United States. But the age of the railroad was approaching and Chicago decided it must be the center of that as well. To this day, more than 60% of rail traffic in the United States runs through Chicago. In the 1900s a fast expanding America purchased many of their goods from catalogs. The largest building in the United States was built in Chicago so that manufacturers of goods could display their products to the purchasing managers of the largest retailers in America. And thus Chicago was the center of American retail. In the last 30 - 40 years, trading of financial instruments has exploded in quantity. And Chicago is the center of this market. Every day, more money flows through the Chicago Mercantile Exchange than the NYSE and NASDAQ combined

And here we are today, with Chicago the center of data distribution. Should we be surprised?

Re:The 10 (1)

RivenAleem (1590553) | more than 4 years ago | (#31844708)

You left off "All that Jazz" from that list.

May I be the first to remark (-1, Redundant)

YeeHaW_Jelte (451855) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831266)

that datacenterknowledge.com should utilize a bigger datacenter for their soon to be expanded server park?

In other words, slashdotted!

Physician, heal thyself... (2, Funny)

jtara (133429) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831278)

Too bad this wasn't hosted at one of world's 10 biggest data centers. If it had been, the site might have survived the Slashdot effect.

with the cooling costs (3, Insightful)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831314)

i would have said that a datacenter in las vegas makes no sense

but of course, i'm forgetting the hoover dam: guaranteed cheap power

which makes sense, because the hoover dam is the only reason las vegas can exist as a city in the first place

so for any of you datacenter builders of the future: look for intersections of traffic flows and hydroelectric dams

Re:with the cooling costs (2, Interesting)

Shakrai (717556) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831474)

If you are going for cheap hydro power and a cooler climate why not put your data center in Western NY?

Re:with the cooling costs (2, Interesting)

JAZ (13084) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831824)

I used to work at a company that had a large one in Utica... they had trouble with blizzards and would have to plan to have a support team snowed in and unable to leave for days at a time.

hey, i love the finger lakes (0, Offtopic)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831834)

but the issue is traffic flows. las vegas is situated nicely between denver, los angeles, and all the traffic flowing to the east

but in wester ny, you are off center of the boston/ new york/ washington corridor, and off center of the ny-chicago intartubules

is there fibre along the erie canal? (im a complete idiot on this question). it would make sense after all for a toronto/ montreal chicago/ new york city hub to run something there

Re:with the cooling costs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31831890)

Yahoo is doing that. http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/06/30/its-official-yahoo-building-in-lockport-ny/

Re:with the cooling costs (1)

chrisjwray (717883) | more than 4 years ago | (#31832416)

Or Quebec. Cool climate to the extreme and tons of hydro.

Re:with the cooling costs (1)

evilviper (135110) | more than 4 years ago | (#31837966)

If you are going for cheap hydro power and a cooler climate why not put your data center in Western NY?

Because nothing is "cheap" unless supply is larger than demand. There's plenty of people around NEW YORK to consume that "cheap" power, to the point it isn't cheap any longer.

In Las Vegas, however, there's a relatively small population, and it's a good distance away from any other population centers which might wish to consume that cheap power...

Additionally, the desert is underrated. Large quantities of land are nearly free, very little infrastructure is needed as most natural destructive forces are not present (ice, heavy rain, etc.), and while temperatures may be high, the dry air make evaporative cooling work amazingly well, to the point that cooling a home in the desert is cheaper than cooling a home in a more humid climate, despite the major temperature differences.

Data Map (1)

mpapet (761907) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831708)

Vegas has **huge** internet-tubes. Hoover dam huge. http://www.cogentco.com/img/other/networkmap_large.jpg [cogentco.com] I would assume there are other carriers going through Vegas too.

No meaningful earthquake threat out there. Sure, you'll get the occasional roller from Cali, but that's it. The weather isn't a big issue either. The data center's going to go up in smoke if the cooling quit regardless of where the data center is located.

Re:with the cooling costs (1)

chaim79 (898507) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831754)

I wouldn't be surprised if it has more to do with the gaming laws, every transaction from every slot machine/gambling device needs to be recorded and stored for a long time (over 5 years I think) that makes for a Lot of storage.

Re:with the cooling costs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31831886)

This is the best reference I can find...maybe someone else can find a better one.

http://www.usbr.gov/lc/hooverdam/faqs/powerfaq.html

But Las Vegas does NOT get it's power from the hoover dam.

dude: (0, Offtopic)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 4 years ago | (#31832066)

downtown las vegas to the hoover dam is 25 miles

everything else is desert

that's about the entire story

if the dam wasn't built, there would be no las vegas. the building of the dam allowed las vegas to exist

Re:dude: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31833714)

And yet Vegas draws less than a quarter of its electricity from Hoover Dam, which mostly exists for the benefit of California.

so where does vegas get its electricity (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 4 years ago | (#31834070)

if not the massive hydroelectric dam 25 miles away?

Re:with the cooling costs (1)

knarfling (735361) | more than 4 years ago | (#31832866)

The one I am most surprised at is Phoenix ONE. Although we are having a very cold year this year (it hasn't even hit 90 yet [32 for those outside the US], and we are already into April), normally cooling costs would be huge. I know they have done some work with chillers to replace air conditioners, but cooling that size space in 115 degree heat (46 Celsius) can't be cheap.

Phoenix does have some advantages, though. Very low earthquake probability, slim chance of flooding, and hurricanes and tornados are things that happen in other places. I know that i/o Data had big aspirations, but didn't know that they had the seventh largest data center.

Re:with the cooling costs (1)

NotBornYesterday (1093817) | more than 4 years ago | (#31833362)

You want a great datacenter location? Iceland.

1) Endless cheap green power (geothermal & hydropower).
2) Optimal climate for datacenter cooling.
3) Well educated and motivated workforce Very friendly.
4) With their economy right now, it's a buyer's market.
5) Their submarine cable infrastructure has been growing steadily. Currently served by cables to Europe and North America.

i agree with this (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 4 years ago | (#31833496)

location is really really good between europe/ north america

the cable layers would need thick hulls, but otherwise, yeah: i think iceland is well-suited as an ideal datacenter location of the future, for political reasons even

Re:i agree with this (1)

NotBornYesterday (1093817) | more than 4 years ago | (#31835606)

Actually, I think that Iceland remains free of sea ice thanks to ocean currents, so unless you planned on routing the cable via Greenland, you'd be fine.

Re:with the cooling costs (1)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 4 years ago | (#31840224)

I think a solar-thermic power plant, plus hydrogen production for the night, should work nicely, even when there’s nothing but desert in sight.

I found a slow datacenter! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31831370)

Anyone else having trouble reaching the site/loading pictures? Maybe datacenterknowledge.com should be looking for a new datacenter?

Bandwidth? (1)

keithpreston (865880) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831484)

Ok, square footage and power might be impressive to some. I really just want to know the number of fiber lines and bandwidth in these data centers. I figure if it is about 1 TB/s, I could consider renting space for an apartment there for the right price.

Re:Bandwidth? (1)

mpapet (761907) | more than 4 years ago | (#31831888)

Even if you are a fan of loud white noise and cold breezes, bringing a girl home would be uh, problematic. The physical access control might not turn her off, but getting comfy on a bench next to a 42u won't impress her.

Re:Bandwidth? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31832898)

Hahaha, like a slashdot reader would know what to do with a girl when he got her there anyway! Besides, with 1TB/s what would you need a woman for anyway? You'd have terabytes of pron on demand!

Re:Bandwidth? (1)

mdf356 (774923) | more than 4 years ago | (#31832694)

I want to know the total storage. These are data centers, and all they are reporting on is the physical size of the building and the power needed. How much data can they store with that space/power? Which is the most efficient in its use of space or electricity per terabyte?

to bad datacenterknowledge cant handle traffic (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31831540)

LOL... apparently "datacenterknowledge" cannot quite manage traffic itself as the server is down..

the smoking man says... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31831618)

The NSA is amused by your puny datacenters.

aspiring to know everything (about everybody) (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31832052)

one would need only to take an honest look at one's self. as for the information nazis, they have no 'self' as everything is external.

translated to real units (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31832344)

between 37000 m^2 and 102000 m^2

SLASHDOTTED. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31832494)

The website in the above article, is having sporadic failures, ATM im getting timeouts,

Probably slashdotted thier poor website

Lol

Is Miami a good place for a large data center? (1)

mschaffer (97223) | more than 4 years ago | (#31833484)

I would think that hurricane damage, flood potential, etc. would be a problem.

Re:Is Miami a good place for a large data center? (1)

blackchiney (556583) | more than 4 years ago | (#31833754)

The place is a something to really see. Ground floor is parking, entrance etc. Floor to ceiling is about 15 feet. Miami is about 4-5 feet above sea level. The entire thing is encased in a hurricane/bomb proof structure and designed to withstand galeforce winds. So you'd need a 20 foot storm surge (low pressure area that creates a bubble of water) before you got to to the area where servers are stored. I'm not even sure most servers are on the 2nd story. They could keep more equipment there and put server/switches/backups on the higherlevels.

Phoenix ONE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31833524)

I drive past Phoenix ONE on my way to and from work every single day and fantasize about working there. Obviously because of my next question, this is a bit of a silly fantasy, but what exactly do datacenter techs do? I'm a sys-admin now, but datacenters have always seemed so freaking cool to me. How do I get a job working at one and what will I be doing?

Re:Phoenix ONE (1)

blackchiney (556583) | more than 4 years ago | (#31833862)

This might not apply to everywhere, but most employees are offsite. The one I lived next to was basically most of the day. I would occassionally see a Black SUV speed out the docks every few months, but there was no company parking in the vicinity and no cars leaving the building so I assume except for the security guards no one was there.

The guys I work with that own a few lanes at the local datacenter work downtown. But the datacenter is out by the airport. They don't go out there that often, it takes me a about a week for them to upload a few terabytes for me.

Re:Phoenix ONE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31841394)

These are mostly if not all colocations and the datacenter techs spend most of their time running cables to different cages. You would rarely touch something other then cabling unless a 3rd party company was paying the colo to do a task. I have worked in Supernap and that seems to be most of their job. They obviously have engineers that manage the network and NOC and things like that as well though.

Obligatory (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31833794)

Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these?

So much for decentralization (1)

rbrander (73222) | more than 4 years ago | (#31834078)

The "NAP of the Americas" with 160 networks converging on it, sounds like the opposite of the Internet's original decentralized design. Not that the 7-inch-thick concrete panel walls sound fragile, but hardly impregnable, either. I'm thinking the truckload of glorified fertilizer that demolished the Murrah building would still give it a bad day.

No doubt I was silly to think even a few of these monsters were out of the way in places easier to secure with a chain-link fence and a few cameras that could see a truck coming; somewhere out in the boonies, right near the actual hydro plant. (I'd heard many were locating "near hydro sources" for the assured power; of course, they just meant "cities served by hydro".)

Naturally, they want them minimum latency away from huge customers, like downtown Chicago, New York, and Dallas.

I'd read (probably in Slashdot) that the Internet was no longer remotely the decentralized nuclear-war-survivor of its 1950's design goals; but it's even more sobering to think that most of the main OC-192 bandwidth switches AND vast amounts of storage and processing could be taken out by one parking lot's worth of Oklahoma-City type wingnutmobiles.

And now the TFA just neatly summarized their top 10 target list. Swell.

OK, time to back up my Gmail.

They missed the largest one, it's in Tokyo (2, Informative)

alexkane (1789444) | more than 4 years ago | (#31839238)

They missed the largest data center in the world, the @Tokyo data center in Tokyo, Japan. It's over 1.5 million square feet, large enough to have it's own train station (Shintoyosu station). It sits on a piece of land out in Tokyo Bay in the section of the city known as Odaiba. I had a chance to do some work there a couple years ago when Lehman had a lot of space there (my pictures of the data center are here http://www.flickr.com/photos/alexkane/sets/72157623651979353/ [flickr.com] ).

Some more info on the @Tokyo data center can be found on the web:

Google map:
http://tinyurl.com/y6djuzo [tinyurl.com]

http://www.jpix.ad.jp/en/service/site_info.html [jpix.ad.jp] "The academic IX NSPIXP2 is located here.The total floor space in the building is 140,000 square meters which is the largest scale data center in the world."

Nudes A Poppin'? (1)

md65536 (670240) | more than 4 years ago | (#31842098)

Anyone else here more of a perv than a nerd and can only come up with Nudes A Poppin' when trying to remember what NAP means?

terrorist targets? (1)

Dretep (903366) | more than 4 years ago | (#31848364)

Well done, give terrorists excellent targets for future attacks. Yes, bombing a few buildings or vehicles and killing people will get you in the headlines but take down data centers and you can really screw the world. Or would they avoid them as they may have data stored in them too? Hmmm...
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