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Heavy US Demand Delays iPad's Worldwide Release

samzenpus posted more than 4 years ago | from the supply-and-too-much-demand dept.

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Dave Knott writes "The international launch of the iPad has been delayed until late May, a one month setback from the original launch window of late April. Citing Apple's press release: 'Although we have delivered more than 500,000 iPads during its first week, demand is far higher than we predicted and will likely continue to exceed our supply over the next several weeks as more people see and touch an iPad. We have also taken a large number of pre-orders for iPad 3G models for delivery by the end of April.' International pricing will be announced on May 10, at which time international pre-orders are expected to begin."

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314 comments

Marketing (1, Interesting)

sopssa (1498795) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853214)

It's only interesting that just today, along with this news announcement, was the first time when we (as in Europeans) even heard about it or when EU operators even announced iPad coming and its release dates.

Yes, there really was no announcement on release date before Apple said they will be delaying it. Marketing at its finest.

Another interesting aspect; Those UK operators were also all send the same basic marketing template [reghardware.co.uk] they used in their press releases today.

Bar the name of the operator and the countries mentioned, the Orange and O2 statements are exactly the same as Vodafone's. So written by Apple, then, and cut and pasted by the carriers.

Can't leave any marketing aspects to be ruined by other companies eh?

And the last interesting point - iPad sales dropped down to ~10% after first day sales.

Apple - PR and Advertising.

Re:Marketing (4, Informative)

vijayiyer (728590) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853258)

Microsoft spends almost twice as much as Apple as a percentage of revenue on marketing. Apple spends about the same amount as Dell.

http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2009/10/28/apples-2009-ad-budget-half-a-billion/ [cnn.com]

Could it be that people actually want products that you don't?

Re:Marketing (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31853284)

Microsoft has 4 to 5 times the amount of products apple does and a much higher profit margin as they don't ship hardware, would be far wierder if they didn't spend at least double what apple do.

Re:Marketing (1)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853306)

So why aren't they pumping the Zune and Windows Mobile the same way Apple is?

For every Mac ad I see, I see at least 3 or 4 ads for Windows 7.

Re:Marketing (2, Insightful)

VGPowerlord (621254) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853428)

...because Microsoft knows what people will reasonably buy?

Windows and Office are Microsoft's biggest money-makers, so they correspondingly have the most advertising.

Re:Marketing (1)

Space cowboy (13680) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853518)

...because Microsoft knows what people will reasonably buy?

Hmm. So what you're saying, is that you need an appealing product before you throw any money at it for advertising ? Makes sense...

Simon.

Re:Marketing (4, Funny)

Cryacin (657549) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853614)

Exactly. You can sell Ice to Eskimo's. You just need to value add! Look! Yellow snowcones. What?!? It's lemon!

Re:Marketing (5, Funny)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853908)

Exactly. You can sell Ice to Eskimo's. You just need to value add! Look! Yellow snowcones. What?!? It's lemon!

If Apple sold lemonade-flavored snow cones, here is how Slashdot would react:

"Oh please, people have been making yellow snow cones for years!"

"You can't eat with unless you have a special cup for it! (Well I don't know if that's actually true but it sounds plausible!)"

"I've never tried one, but I know they're not actually sweet! Steve Jobs just told them to like it! Sugar is just a marketing term they made up."

"If you go to the Kwik-E-Mart you can get other flavors, too. If you look hard enough, you can even buy them from your neighbor's kids from their stand down the street! They don't taste as good, the quality is not as consistent, and the coloring will run down your sleeve, but you have choice!"

"Heaps and heaps of people only by them so they can show off their yellow mustaches!"

... etc.

Re:Marketing (0, Troll)

brunes69 (86786) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853590)

Microsoft does not have to "pump" windows mobile because, despite all the iPhone hype, the number of Windows Mobile smartphones is only slightly behind the number of iPhones (http://www.fiercedeveloper.com/pages/what-were-top-smartphone-operating-systems-october-numbers)- and the number of windows mobile applications vastly outnumbers the number of iPhone applications (by about 10 times I wager)

Re:Marketing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31853822)

I just read your Tim Horton's "scam". There are no words to describe how stupid that truly is. You're bitching about them throwing away a paper cup while you're throwing away gas waiting in a drive-thru. Stones. Glass house. All that. The hypocrisy is astounding. Yeah, I know, you've seen them throw it away inside as well. If the customers and the management didn't stress the employees about "wait times", they might actually give a fuck about making you feel good about being an ecologically aware individual. Tempest in a fucking teapot.

Re:Marketing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31854010)

they have no mindshare though.
and windows mobile users TOLERATE it, I have only met one guy who liked windows mobile and that was because ATT refused to offer anything other than iphones that werent winmo and blackberry smartphones. and blackberry app development sucks.
he is insanely pissed about win phone 7 being an iphone me too

microsoft just doesn't have the mindset to do mobile.
hell, for consoles they had to poach sega's console development team

You can get AIDS by touching an iPad.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31853668)

And who knows what else...

Re:Marketing (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31853290)

That $500 million is spent on recruiting stupid fanbois.

Re:Marketing (4, Insightful)

socceroos (1374367) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853342)

Wow, you would really have to be blinded to not see through this.

Every other Apple product release in the past they have done exactly the same thing.

I'll eat my hat if the same PR isn't released during the next Apple product release.

Re:Marketing (1)

Tharsman (1364603) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853564)

Wow, you would really have to be blinded to not see through this. Every other Apple product release in the past they have done exactly the same thing. I'll eat my hat if the same PR isn't released during the next Apple product release.

False. They only done so with the ipads and iPhones, perhaps because... it happened? They have not done this with the iPods (at least not with most of them) or any of their "new" or "upgrade" computer lines.

Re:Marketing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31853368)

That's actually a farely twisted way of looking at the numbers. As they say people can make statistics say whatever they want. Hardware vendors tend to have a much high sales revenue but much lower profit margins and hence percentage wise it looks like MS spend way more. If you actually move into their incomes the numbers come down to Microsoft spending similiar amounts percentage wise (or slightly more).

Re:Marketing (1)

DAldredge (2353) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853370)

Developer outreach is a marketing expense.

Re:Marketing (1)

_Sprocket_ (42527) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853488)

Could it be that people actually want products that you don't?

I won't know until I read what the pundits and advertisements say. On a related note, this isn't about marketing budgets. It's about marketing itself.

Re:Marketing (3, Funny)

Obyron (615547) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853580)

Microsoft spends almost twice as much as Apple as a percentage of revenue on marketing. Apple spends about the same amount as Dell.

http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2009/10/28/apples-2009-ad-budget-half-a-billion/ [cnn.com]

Could it be that people actually want products that you don't?

I considered this, but it's just not likely. I mean, I can't see why they'd want it.

Re:Marketing (1)

node 3 (115640) | more than 4 years ago | (#31854154)

I considered this, but it's just not likely. I mean, I can't see why they'd want it.

Yet the fact is that they *do* want it. So you can either adjust your assumptions and accept reality (even if you are unable to understand why things are like they are), or you can pretend, like a sizable portion of Slashdot has done, that the iPad is a failure, facts be damned.

Re:Marketing (1)

Jahava (946858) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853646)

Microsoft spends almost twice as much as Apple as a percentage of revenue on marketing. Apple spends about the same amount as Dell.

Jerry Seinfeld isn't cheap! Then again, I'm guessing from previous examples that Microsoft gets nowhere near as much bang for their buck.

Re:Marketing (4, Funny)

biryokumaru (822262) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853262)

iPad sales dropped down to ~10%

Well, at least they're right about exceeding sales expectations. That's way more than I expected anyone to buy.

Re:Marketing (1)

bl8n8r (649187) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853522)

iPad sales dropped down to ~10%

what they mean to say is 10 of the 11 people that bought one did so on the first day.

Re:Marketing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31853266)

Delay means time to concentrate on important stuff.
Thanks, Steve Jobs, for delaying the release of your shiny new iPad in Australia.
Now I can compare its merits against other such slate devices from HP, the Chinese factories and Asus among others. I hear they have things the iPad lacks, such as USB, decent Wi-Fi reception, a camera for Skype, multi-tasking and faster processors.
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/172222,opinion-thanks-for-not-giving-me-an-ipad.aspx

Re:Marketing (3, Insightful)

phantomfive (622387) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853286)

You know, if you really cared about tablet computers, you could have gotten one a decade ago. It's not like Apple is opening a new market here that competitors need to rush into. So after a delay of 10 years, it's not like another few months will really convince anyone to go with one of the other devices.

A tablet is not a PC - because the PC sucks. (4, Insightful)

MikeFM (12491) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853856)

I did get one a decade ago. It sucked. All the ones I've had running Windows or Linux sucked. I've considered a Mac-based one but I expect it'd suck. Why? Because desktop OSs are crap and are triple crap for a tablet. Also without good multitouch, small form factors, good battery life, and wireless tablets are crap.

If you've never noticed that EVERY desktop environment available is crap then you've obviously never used a computer or helped anyone else use a computer. iPhone OS is still pretty lacking but it's better than any version of Windows, Mac OS, KDE, Gnome, etc that I've used. I have seen some stabs at a netbook environment that were moving in the right direction too but they all were still more concept than reality. Keep the OS simple and let applications provide whatever level of complexity is needed to complete a given task. As iPhone, Android/Chrome, etc move towards a task/document centric approach instead of application centric and find the right middle ground for safe/easy versus flexible I think we'll all be a lot happier.

Re:A tablet is not a PC - because the PC sucks. (1, Insightful)

timmarhy (659436) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853912)

no one is stopping you from going off and writing your own OS that'll blow them all out of the water.

i suspect you have no idea what's wrong, you just don't understand the balancing act OS dev's need to do.

Re:Marketing (1)

jo_ham (604554) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853320)

They said "in April" and then delayed it to "May". What's wrong with that if you know you are going to be behind?

This is why companies like Blizzard don't put release dates or give out speculative info, even if they have an idea about when a product will launch. They merely say "we'll release it when it's ready"- the famous Blizzard "Soon(tm)" for product release dates.

If they say "It will ship in April 15th" and there is a delay then a horde of raging nerds go crazy on the forums about shitty service and demanding free game time and so on.

If they say "soon" and they have to slip the date back, they can just say "it will come out when it's ready".

Re:Marketing (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31853334)

Yes, there really was no announcement on release date before Apple said they will be delaying it. Marketing at its finest.

Well here in Australia they where saying it would be released at the end of April, it has now been changed to late May.

Re:Marketing (4, Insightful)

99BottlesOfBeerInMyF (813746) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853386)

And the last interesting point - iPad sales dropped down to ~10% after first day sales.

They sold 300K the first day, including all the pre-orders, then about 50K every day thereafter, according to the published numbers from Apple. So more than 10% of the first day, but I guess I don't see the relevance. Since market researchers are showing it is sold out in many stores, so constrained supply limits sales in some cases and reduced demand in others. Until they start to keep up with the demand, we won't really know what that demand is like. By the same logic as you've presented you could claim the Wii was going to be a failure since after the first day sales dropped dramatically. Actually, the numbers are slightly lower (500K vs. 600K), but close to that of the iPhone when it was released. To claim the iPad as a success or failure at this point, especially because of the distribution of sales is, well, premature.

Re:Marketing (-1, Troll)

sopssa (1498795) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853504)

Your math fails.

300 + 4 * 500 [wolframalpha.com] = 600 000

33K is closer and at the rate its going down, is selling 1000 units a day of a product with this kind of hype really that good? Mobile phones and computers are sold over many millions a day.

Re:Marketing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31853824)

I recommend that you short AAPL, then. Put your money where your mouth is.

Only on /. is the iPad doomed to failure.

Re:Marketing (2, Insightful)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853980)

Mobile phones and computers are sold over many millions a day.

Dell sells 365 million laptops a year?!

Re:Marketing (3, Insightful)

PylonHead (61401) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853994)

People might take you seriously if you stopped creating posts exclaiming, "Your math fails", then writing (300+4*500) = 600000.

Re:Marketing (1)

RJHelms (1554807) | more than 4 years ago | (#31854118)

Especially when the "cred" comes from (300 + 4 * 500) linking to a Wolfram Alpha query for (300 + 6 * 50).

Here's some tips:

4 != 6
500 != 50

Re:Marketing (1)

RJHelms (1554807) | more than 4 years ago | (#31854136)

I don't mean to reply to myself, but I just realized - even if the math was right, I don't quite get what that equation has to do with anything.

2 + 2 = 3, therefore iPads blow... ?

Re:Marketing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31853406)

Well sopssa, what you said technically true, except there was two [techcrunch.com] leaks [product-reviews.net] that the ipad would be released in March or April. Maybe you just weren't paying attention?

But I'm sure you'll be happy with google's or MS' tablet.

As for the sales drop off [cnn.com] . While there is huge drop-off in sales, they're still selling 24,000 per day, 168,000 per week. That is quite respectable in that at that rate they will still have sold nearly 9 million units in a year. In any case, this "sales drop off" is a tune we've heard before [arstechnica.com] from Apple haters about the iphone and we see how right they were.

I'm no fashionista, and I certainly won't be buying an ipad because 'm perfectly happy with my laptop, but the irrational Apple hatred from people like you on this board is a drag.

Apple - Well-designed and clever products.

Re:Marketing (5, Informative)

ronin510 (1113835) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853434)

Here are a few press releases before this press release:

March 5th, UK - End of April launch http://www.nma.co.uk/news/apple-announces-april-uk-release-date-for-ipad/3010816.article [nma.co.uk]
March 5th, European release - End of April launch http://www.cln-online.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=612:ipadrelease&catid=40:industry&Itemid=135 [cln-online.org]

In a post below you said you'd eat your hat. Can you post that on youtube? Thanks.

Re:Marketing (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31853498)

Why do people who don't like Apple products bother to even read stories like this. I just do not understand why there are some people who feel so threatened by Apple and seem to feel outrage that there are people that do like Apple products.

Re:Marketing (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31853988)

Why does Apple have so many indignant forum warriors? Aren't you all supposed to have lives and be getting real work done?

You're not like part of a cult or anything are you?

Re:Marketing (4, Insightful)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853922)

It seems strange to be so self-righteous about marketing, in a forum on a site that is basically a big community PR platform for VA Linux. It might seem like it fosters open debate, but overall the selection of issues and the guidance in the summaries is strongly tilted toward facilitating dialogue about how awesome Linux and the GNU interpretation of open source are, with a regular diet of Apple/science/general tech stories to draw in new readers.

Everybody markets, and you are constantly acting under marketing's influence. Marketing's awesome! You saw the TRON trailer, right? That's marketing.

You're wearing denim jeans right now, right? Marketing.

You may fancy yourself an expert on a few things, capable of making objective decisions, but in most aspects of your spending life, I assure you, you're responding to very basic stimuli induced on you by marketers. And it's completely legal, legitimate, fair, and even necessary.

This continuing slashdot obsession with disqualifying goods (from any manufacturer) because they're well-marketed is bizzare.

You shouldn't be asking why Apple is so effective at marketing... Apple is merely competent. You really should ask yourself, why, if HP and Dell have such good products, they invariable allow their products to be introduced as blurry pictures on Gizmodo or Ars Technica, give them unrememberable names, and are so inept in their follow through and promotion that anybody who actually cares to develop or add value to their product might as well blow their brains out now and save the trouble.

Re:Marketing (5, Insightful)

node 3 (115640) | more than 4 years ago | (#31854016)

It's only interesting that just today, along with this news announcement, was the first time when we (as in Europeans) even heard about it or when EU operators even announced iPad coming and its release dates.

Except that's not true. Apple announced that the iPad would begin worldwide availability late April.

Yes, there really was no announcement on release date before Apple said they will be delaying it. Marketing at its finest.

No, they really did. Your post is ignorance at its finest.

And the last interesting point - iPad sales dropped down to ~10% after first day sales.

I assume you mean down to about 10% per day, which is a number much lower than I've heard, but regardless of the specifics, this is exactly what always happens. There's the initial rush (including pre-orders from a month ago), then things settle down to a more sustainable level of demand.

There's also the little matter of Apple not being able to keep the iPad fully stocked, which places an upper limit on sales numbers.

Instead of trying to spin reality completely backwards, why not admit that the iPad isn't the dud you and those who mod you up thought it would be? What's wrong with admitting the truth? Is your technological self-esteem so insecure that it must be propped up by hiding reality lest... Lest what? Will your Windows PC or Ubuntu netbook or Android tablet serve you any less well if you admit that there are many other people out there that prefer the iPad to *your* device of choice?

Apple - PR and Advertising.

And profitability and shipping millions of products per year. Apple is the fifth largest PC maker in the US, and that includes businesses which skew much more heavily towards Windows PCs. Even then, Apple sells 8% of all computers in America.

That does not support your "PR and Advertising" smoke and mirrors claim. There's substance to back up their flair. Unlike your incessant posting of ignorance on all things Apple.

Re:Marketing (1)

AndrewStephens (815287) | more than 4 years ago | (#31854180)

And the last interesting point - iPad sales dropped down to ~10% after first day sales.

Are you saying that Apple will sell as many iPads in the next 10 days as it did on the huge first day? I don't think Apple has a problem with that.

canadian outraged. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31853234)

Hey great news now we canadians can come visit the usa and buy one with our dollar which today is worth more than the american peso.

Re:canadian outraged. (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853970)

As I'm writing this post, Google tells me that 1 Canadian dollar = 1.0006 U.S. dollars.

What will be the Canadian price for the iPad, however? Even a few months ago when the Canadian dollar was at parity with the American dollar, Apple priced their products at about 5-10% higher for Canadians.

Re:canadian outraged. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31854140)

There's more to selling ones product in a foreign country than cexchange rates that needs to be considered. There's the different taxes, customs duties, regulatory requirements, legal and marketing fees to name just a few.

Re:canadian outraged. (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 4 years ago | (#31854166)

Except that taxes are not part of the retail price in the USA and Canada.

Thank god! (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31853282)

Another iCrap stories. Don't ever stop.

Re:Thank god! (5, Insightful)

Petrushka (815171) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853346)

I note that at this moment, the front page has

  • two iPhone stories
  • three iPad stories

-- all separate, i.e. five stories.

FUCK THIS SHIT, and fuck all the Apple astroturfers like Paska just below [slashdot.org] .

Re:Thank god! (1)

gzipped_tar (1151931) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853390)

It is possible to turn off the Apple section in the index setting.

But if you do it you won't be able to enjoy the real slashdot...

Re:Thank god! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31853398)

Apple astroturfers like Paska just below.

I think he is Finnish. His nickname directly translates to "shit" and "crap" :)

Re:Thank god! (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31853550)

I note that at this moment, the front page has

  • two iPhone stories
  • three iPad stories

-- all separate, i.e. five stories.

FUCK THIS SHIT, and fuck all the Apple astroturfers like Paska just below [slashdot.org] .

And there's generally several stories that are pro piracy and file sharing each day. Welcome to Slashdot. If you want balanced reporting you've come to the wrong place. iPhones/iPad ARE tech stories. You might not be interested but half a million people already disagree with you the first week. Will I get one? Probably not but I'm still interested in following the product. Hopefully they'll add some of the missing elements, they already are slated to add multi-tasking. It's a media/game player that can run some apps, deal with it not being a proper computer. Neither is your smart phone. I've got four computers sitting in the room I'm in. I don't need the same capabilities on every single electronic device I own.

Re:Thank god! (-1, Troll)

sopssa (1498795) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853626)

I don't need the same capabilities on every single electronic device I own.

But they have the same capabilities. They are not like your microwave. All the capability is built-in. It's just that Apple locks you out from using your device and restricts you to their App Store so they can milk even more money from you.

Re:Thank god! (1)

shmlco (594907) | more than 4 years ago | (#31854084)

"But they have the same capabilities."

Uh... my desktop and notebook are touchscreen portable tablets???

Wow! Thanks for the heads up!

Re:Thank god! (1)

node 3 (115640) | more than 4 years ago | (#31854196)

It's just that Apple locks you out from using your device and restricts you to their App Store so they can milk even more money from you.

The reason for the app store is not primarily as a revenue source. It's to make the iPhone (and iPod touch and, now, iPad) more appealing. The same thing is true for the iTunes Music Store in relation to the iPod.

Re:Thank god! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31853608)

and every one is in the apple section, if you hate apple so much just disable apple news in your prefs you stupid dumbass

Re:Thank god! (1)

nikomo (1338131) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853666)

Funny thing, paska is shit in finnish.

Re:Thank god! (3, Interesting)

Paska (801395) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853818)

I note that at this moment, the front page has

  • two iPhone stories
  • three iPad stories

-- all separate, i.e. five stories.

FUCK THIS SHIT, and fuck all the Apple astroturfers like Paska just below [slashdot.org] .

What has Slashdot editors posting Apple stories got to do with my opinion based in a market that I actively work in?

My opinion isn't some by-the-edge-of-my-seat observation, I work in the Apple industry for a company that is *not* Apple. We sell Linux, Windows, OS X, and push the right solution for the job.

The simple fact is the Apple solution is now becoming a lot more relevant then ever before, people want their products, and to ignore this (and if you want, fight it with a better/more open product) is just plain ignorance.

Re:Thank god! (3, Funny)

feepness (543479) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853960)

-- all separate, i.e. five stories.

Someone needs to submit a story about this.

Re:Thank god! (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 4 years ago | (#31854042)

FUCK THIS SHIT, and fuck all the Apple astroturfers like Paska just below.

Blame the haters, too. 670+ comments in the last 5 iPhone/iPad related stories. 1,470 if you go back only two more. Slashdot is ad driven and ads are served even if you post just to complain.

It reminds me of a friend I had that'd corner people in their cubicles and endlessly complain about how he never had time to get any work done.

The iPad will redefine the industry (4, Interesting)

Paska (801395) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853308)

I work for a predominate Apple authorised reseller in Australia in an engineering role, as a result I get to hear feedback from every corner of the landscape. From consumer sales, small business, big business, government and educational.

The iPad, and just the talk around it, I have never experienced in my 7+ years in the I.T. industry, and 3+ years in the Apple industry.

I have no hesitation in saying that the iPad has a huge chance of being the game changer, it's launch officially brings the "PC" into being a commodity device that anyone can use.

Hell, just today with my desk behind our retail sales floor. I've had an old lady come in enquiring about pre-ordering it, just so she can check her email in Cambodia. Schools are talking about it, business is talking about it, but the most surprising thing is that the older generation, the type of folk who see computers as these big, ugly, hard machines to use are not just wanting them, they are consistently calling us each and every day to find out the latest news on them.

Apple will sell these things like absolute hot cakes, and the rest of the I.T. industry is going to be left scratching their heads as to why they didn't come up with this idea sooner.

Re:The iPad will redefine the industry (1)

_Sprocket_ (42527) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853460)

Apple will sell these things like absolute hot cakes, and the rest of the I.T. industry is going to be left scratching their heads as to why they didn't come up with this idea sooner.

Yes - because nobody else ever thought about a pad device before. Nobody.

Sure - Apple may have gotten it right. Form factor is important. You can look at the iPod as an example (and for all the mocking - CmdrTaco's analysis was dead-on... at least on the points it touched). You can also look at Apple's Newton vs. the Palm Pilot. And so Apple may have managed to do it right. But please - let's not get too carried away. This is evolution, not revolution.

Re:The iPad will redefine the industry (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31853756)

Post like this make me want to go to a car analogy. Comparing an Apple Tablet to the other things out there is like comparing a Tesla Roadster (iPad) to a Ford Focus (Joojoo). Revolution is evolution.

Re:The iPad will redefine the industry (-1, Redundant)

MikeFM (12491) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853898)

Evolution is revolution. What I wouldn't pay to have all the other consumer junk I have done right. Having a design that I not only like on day one but am not cursing a year later, if the device hasn't died by then, is absolute revolution.

Why does the remote for my tv have weird buttons that don't do anything, some that do mysterious undocumented things, and others that are just wrong (one I had for a long time had the channel up/down buttons reversed in function)? Why does my car have cup holders under the dashboard where nobody in North America could fit any cup they bought on an actual roadtrip (hello McDonalds I'd like the 8oz soda.. it's all my car can handle) and constant replacement tires and a replacement of the ignition every other year (yes I know I shouldn't have bought a Ford)? I am so sick of everything I buy, regardless of price, being complete crap. I don't want stupid feature X - I just want the device to do what I need it to do and not suck or die on me. At least Apple does a good job of delivering on that usually. Not many other brands do consistantly.

Re:The iPad will redefine the industry (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31853724)

you mean, its a laptop?

Re:The iPad will redefine the industry (5, Insightful)

phantomfive (622387) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853742)

it's launch officially brings the "PC" into being a commodity device that anyone can use.

You do realize that a PC *is* a commodity device that anyone can use, right? Grandma's all over the world are already using them. In fact, if you know what a commodity actually is, the iPad is less of a commodity than a standard PC.

Re:The iPad will redefine the industry (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31854164)

You guys fail; A commodity is a valuable thing.

PCs have been a commodity since they were invented, just like anything else that has value. iPads are actually more of a commodity than typical budget PCs because, gasp, iPads are more valuable.

Re:The iPad will redefine the industry (1)

node 3 (115640) | more than 4 years ago | (#31854232)

While your critique is valid, it's fairly obvious he meant "appliance".

Re:The iPad will redefine the industry (2, Insightful)

SilverJets (131916) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853884)

Meh. All the hype around this useless toy device reminds me of the hype around the Segway. "It will revolutionize urban transportation." "It will change the way engineers plan cities." Blah, blah, blah.

Re:The iPad will redefine the industry (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31854100)

Where did get that speech from, did Steve email it to you? Game changer? and what do you base that on? The iPad still requires your "old lady" to have a full real computer if she wants to sync anything to it like her photos etc.

Apple can spin their PR as they usually do but time will show it is not the big success that Apple would like it to be.

I don't believe it (5, Funny)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853316)

But... Slashdot has already declared the iPad a failure!

Re:I don't believe it (1, Flamebait)

Wolvenhaven (1521217) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853378)

A technical, hardware, software, and geek usability failure maybe; but not a failure on apple's part to market the hell out of it, convince a bunch of people it's awesome, and doing it with nothing more than a large sized ipod touch. You have to hand it to apple, they do make a very nice UI for laymen. Only those of us who frequent technology sites like slashdot care about what can be done with it and all the unique ways to do it, everyone else just wants a pretty device that does neat things and that they can't possibly break by deleting /system32/ or whatever. Apple simplified a design they've been going with for years, create a device so easy, their lobotomised customers with ADD feel like they're doing something important with it and can understand how it works.

Re:I don't believe it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31853574)

Well, that's an offensive piece of trollery, isn't it?

I assume you are one of those who decried the iPhone as a failure, too? The iPod? Probably the Macintosh, too?

Enjoy your moment of (ill-conceived) superiority. Then again, I doubt you'll eat your words if the iPad is a success. You'll just insult the people who bought it. Again.

Re:I don't believe it (1)

dangitman (862676) | more than 4 years ago | (#31854160)

A technical, hardware, software, and geek usability failure maybe;

A technical, hardware and software failure? Ooookaaayyy... what evidence do you have that there are technical problems with it, that the hardware and software is faulty? Or that it's hard for geeks to use? In other words, just what the hell are you talking about?

What slashdot do you read? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31854018)

Every "+5, insightful" comment is ALWAYS a pro-Apple, pro-iPad and anyone who dares question the hype is moderated down to oblivion, so I love the irony of you claiming that slashdot declared it a failure when the opposite is clearly true.

[offtopic] International (0, Offtopic)

gzipped_tar (1151931) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853356)

These days the word "international" has lost its meaning. It used to be "between or across nations" but now it's becoming a synonym of "foreign".

As a person whose native language is not English, I don't care much about the semantic shift. But could it be a hint that the "spirit of our times", assuming its existence, is also making a shift towards the positive end of the political bigotry spectrum?

Re:[offtopic] International (1)

fnj (64210) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853558)

Purely as a semantic question, is the positive end of the political bigotry spectrum "more bigoted" or "less bigoted?"

I guess it depends on whether you use positive in the sense of "more," or in the sense of "better."

Translation... (5, Funny)

LibertineR (591918) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853486)

"We at Apple continue to be amazed at the number of people in the U.S. who will buy just about anything we put in front of them. We never expected the number of these doofus morons to grow, but hey, whose counting? We are simply THRILLED that we can slap a camera on this thing, and the same nuts will buy another one, throwing the old one on Ebay for the credit challenged wannabes who couldn't hack Round 1."

Suffice to say, we can probably get 3-4 rounds from these same people....maybe a USB port for the 3rd go round? Boy, will they lap THAT up...."

" For round 4.....we'll rumor Flash compatibility, but not deliver it, of course.....we'll please the masses with a custom Steve Jobs signature edition, complete with virtual-arrogance, and disdain for all things with pre-emptive multitasking! "

Man, for a second there... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31853512)

I thought I read that as heavy flow!

selling them (1)

tivoKlr (659818) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853562)

I went to the Apple Store at Park Meadows, CO on Saturday to have my iPhone repaired, and while I waited at the Genius bar I observed one guy selling (upselling really to the 64Gb unit) an iPad to an older couple.

He sold them Applecare, and then the Genius returned having repaired my iPhone (some cables were loose and yes it has worked perfectly since the repair (I was skeptical)) gave me back my iPhone.

I went and tried out the iPad. I did not leave with one. However, the young hipster couple to my left did leave with a 32Gb unit, so they are not holding back stateside.

Sorry rest of the world.

Just like the Wii... (1)

herdnerfer (1586219) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853566)

Anyone notice The similarities between the ipad release &the release of the wii? The xbox and ps3 (netbooks & tablet pcs) were doing a lot of things the wii couldn't, but that didn't stop nintendo from selling millions upon millions of them and you can even argue that the wii is just a huge nintendo ds...

Superiority complex (4, Insightful)

paimin (656338) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853620)

This reminds me of when GUI's were new in the mid 80's, all the elitist jerks who fancied themselves to be high-caliber nerds loudly proclaiming that it was all a gay bullshit fad, etc., ad nauseum. Lemme ask you guys, any chance we'll get a humble redaction if it turns out you are completely and utterly wrong about this?

Re:Superiority complex (3, Insightful)

SuperBanana (662181) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853774)

This reminds me of when GUI's were new in the mid 80's, all the elitist jerks who fancied themselves to be high-caliber nerds loudly proclaiming that it was all a gay bullshit fad, etc., ad nauseum. Lemme ask you guys, any chance we'll get a humble redaction if it turns out you are completely and utterly wrong about this?

Hmm. *Looks at the 6 terminal windows open to all the various departmental servers*.

Every tool has its use. GUI may be king for the dekstop, but CLI is king for much server administration.

Mature people argue about the best tool for a job or function. Childish people declare a particular tool "the best." Most platform argument-wars can be described in this way.

Re:Superiority complex (1)

blueg3 (192743) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853996)

Mature people will use any tool that works well, knowing full well that these are few and far between.

Re:Superiority complex (1)

Splab (574204) | more than 4 years ago | (#31854002)

No, mature people accept there are tools for the job and they get the job done.

Re:Superiority complex (1)

lennier (44736) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853964)

This reminds me of when GUI's were new in the mid 80's, all the elitist jerks who fancied themselves to be high-caliber nerds loudly proclaiming that it was all a gay bullshit fad, etc., ad nauseum.

Lemme ask you guys, any chance we'll get a humble redaction if it turns out you are completely and utterly wrong about this?

I still think most GUIs are fundamentally wrongly engineered. Not only is there no text interface to them, there's often no interface to the event stream at all. It all has to be done with compiled OO languages, hugely platform-specific binary interfaces, and callbacks, which compared to the scripting power of a good CLI - or even to the original Smalltalk/Dynabook vision - is just... wrong is the only word for it. The whole messy overcomplicated paradigm 'works', but only in very limited cases and in spite of itself.

I mean, to make our fancy classful binary OO GUIs work across the net, what did we have to invent? A text-based, page-based protocol called HTTP. There's something wrong with this picture. Wasn't OO itself supposed to solve distribution scalability problems? In our universe, it didn't. We had to go back to ASCII text streams for that.

There must be lessons to be learned from the whole GUI -> Web experience, but I don't see many people teaching about them, or even acknowledging that they exist.

Re:Superiority complex (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31854048)

GUIs took simple coding out of the reach of the everyday user. I think their ubiquity may have been a mistake.

Proving yet again... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31853674)

That there truly is a sucker born every minute..

Welcome to Appledot (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31853688)

News for Macfags,stuff that doesn't matter.

Suck the iCock (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31853746)

Suck on my iCock you iTroll bitch.

wake up people (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31853716)

the only people scouring to get these devices are apple fanboys. the device pales in function compared to any netbook (let alone the new pad coming out in Germany). i just dont see what everyone is getting all hyped up about. people really need to pull themselves out of the world and see how engulfed they are with media and hype. willing to drop so much money on nothing!

Re:wake up people (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31854046)

Why can't any of you sad fuckers feel superior quietly. Seriously. Shut the fuck up and let the rest of us enjoy our toys.

iPad Hype (2, Interesting)

foo fighter (151863) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853876)

I brought my iPad to D&D Encounters tonight because my daughter had to come with due to my wife's previous commitment.

My daughter loves the Adobe Ideas app (she just knows it's the blue pencil icon) because it's easier to draw with and choose colors with than the other two drawing/sketching apps I have on there. She kept going back to listen to the book apps she'd already listened to a couple times that evening (Toy Story and Dr. Seuss ABCs and Alice). Her favorite is Diner Dash even though she keeps losing at the last level I mastered.

The entire D&D session was almost derailed by uber nerds wanting to use and/or talk about my iPad instead of playing D&D.

After that encounter and after my wife picked up my daughter after my wife's salon appointment (I know! what a fucking cliche, right?) I ended up having a long conversation about Apple and why I pre-ordered an iPad.

My takeaway was the only people buying and using netbooks, and the people who most want an iPad, are people who are a most perfect fit for either an iPad or a MacBook.

As someone who uses OpenBSD from a command line for most of my professional life and who turns to Apple as soon as my time is my own, I have to say I think most of the Apple hate amongst the fellow nerds here is just jealousy.

Re:iPad Hype (3, Interesting)

bnenning (58349) | more than 4 years ago | (#31854190)

I have to say I think most of the Apple hate amongst the fellow nerds here is just jealousy.

Can you not understand the concern that Apple's strategy if successful will leave them with more of a stranglehold on mobile computing than Microsoft ever had on the desktop? You may not believe that's a significant possibility, and that's fine, but the idea that opposition to the iPad is primarily "jealousy" is silly. Most geeks like Mac OS X exactly because it's a solid Unix that grandparents can use.

Re:iPad Hype (0, Troll)

foo fighter (151863) | more than 4 years ago | (#31854238)

"Can you not understand the concern?"

As a total geek & nerd: no.

"Most geeks like Mac OS X exactly because it's a solid Unix that grandparents can use."

I like OS X because it's a solid Unix **I** can use. I say that as a Unix geek & nerd.

What is your point?

I use something because it provides the best value. The nutjub "opensource community" has completely failed to live up to its promise since the mid 2000s or so.

When there is an open platform that can do a fraction of what my iPad can I will agree that you have a point.

Japan launch in May (1)

mattr (78516) | more than 4 years ago | (#31853904)

Orders to be taken from May 10, sales in second half of May. A month later than expected.

Let me tell you where you can put your iPad... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31853944)

Actually, I'm hoping somebody can tell me where to put these pads. Hmmm...bad phrasing, let me try again, heheheh.

So you got your shiny new touch-screen tablet, Apple or otherwise. But how do you carry it around? I wouldn't be caught dead with a "man-purse" and I'm a bit too old for a messenger bag. A laptop case seems over-kill (unless you're actually carrying a laptop) and a briefcase seems weird when I'm not working. A slip-cover seems okay but it won't hold the cables and other crap. What to do, what to do?

Here's my two cents if anyone cares. The iPad is truly shiny but very expensive and quite closed (no ports, no camera, etc.). I'm waiting for the inevitable horde of Linux and Android tablets. The competition will lower the price and I'm sure to find one with the goodies I want. I have no brand loyalty and I have the patience to wait. Works for me anyway.

I proclaim that 2010 will be... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31854034)

...the year of iPad on the laptop!

What shortage? (1, Troll)

Animats (122034) | more than 4 years ago | (#31854230)

I looked in on the Apple store in Palo Alto today, and it wasn't that busy. They had plenty of iPads on display. I think everybody who wanted one early already has one.

The first spyware for the iPad [chitika.com] has already been deployed: "Our engineering team has devised a workaround to Safari on the iPad's rejection of any and all 3rd-party cookies."

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