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4G iPhone Misplacer Invited To Germany For Beer

samzenpus posted more than 4 years ago | from the beer-makes-things-better dept.

It's funny.  Laugh. 164

eldavojohn writes "You may recall the hapless engineer who left a fairly sensitive iPhone at a bar recently. Well, in a PR stunt, Lufthansa has invited him to visit Germany on their dime after citing his latest Facebook status, 'I underestimated how good German beer is' as well as his obvious passion for German beer and culture. It's not clear if Gray Powell has decided to 'pick up where he last left off' (as the letter puts it). I know what my decision would be."

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First Prost (5, Funny)

codeButcher (223668) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955350)

Ein Prosit!

Re:First Prost (5, Insightful)

Niedi (1335165) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955856)

Oh my god, best pun I've heard in a long time.

But poor guy, here's another round of putting his real name on the web, as if the stupid Gizmodo stunt wasn't enough...

CALLING JOHN C. RANDOLPH! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31956076)

Noted Slashdot poster John C. Randolph (jcr) used to work for Apple, as I understand it. We need him to get over here and sort out fact from fiction.

John, what happened in this case? Was this an intentional leak that has gone "viral", as intended? Was this a legitimate mistake that has been exploited? Was this a sale of prototype goods that went bad for the seller? Is there some other story behind this?

John, deliver us to the truth, and deliver the truth to us.

TROLL (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31955352)

LOL!

Dear Lufthansa (5, Funny)

Nothing Special (700074) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955372)

I lost my girlfriend at a bar, can you send me to the Bunny Ranch?

Re:Dear Lufthansa (1)

Zantac69 (1331461) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955400)

Dude

So you are saying your "girlfriend" is a prostitute?

Re:Dear Lufthansa (1)

kiehlster (844523) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955422)

Ranch.

Re:Dear Lufthansa (5, Funny)

Nothing Special (700074) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955514)

If you asked me that when we here dating i would say no. Now, however...

Re:Dear Lufthansa (1)

von_rick (944421) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955462)

But was she a prototype? But I forget, we are on slashdot and usually the only girlfriends for Slashdotters tend to be prototypes with no further developments .

Re:Dear Lufthansa (1)

sznupi (719324) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955632)

Prototype implies quite...unused one. Not sure if such is typical for Slashdotters.

PS. Wouldn't your sig be even more appropriate with "Face your inner daemons!"? ;> (crap, now I have an idea of using MRI scans to have a real model of my own skull...but no access to MRI ;/ )

Re:Dear Lufthansa (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31956184)

I lost my virginity in a bar. I guess I underestimated how hot Swedish girls were...

Re:Dear Lufthansa (4, Funny)

rvw (755107) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956364)

I lost my girlfriend at a bar, can you send me to the Bunny Ranch?

It's more probable that your girlfriend lost you, considering your name.

Everyone's getting in on this PR (2, Insightful)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955374)

I'm still convinced this was intentional, all the way around.

Re:Everyone's getting in on this PR (3, Insightful)

sznupi (719324) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955492)

Next you know, Microsoft will benefit on it with something like "when you lose WinMob phone, it's sure to be there, waiting, when you get back"

That could possibly mean it wasn't intentional on Apple side after all, though...

Re:Everyone's getting in on this PR (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31955526)

if you convinced that apple, a company renowned for its secrecy, leaked something about a future product. Than you sir are an idiot.

Re:Everyone's getting in on this PR (-1, Offtopic)

erroneus (253617) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955556)

Intentional? You mean the intentional way that Southpark writers and Comedy Central got together to irritate fans by stating that the censorship was done to keep those scary muslims from killing the writers? (I would sort of believe that in the sense that it is ridiculously out of control and no one needs to die over such things. But if the aim is to take the public's opinion of islam down about ten notches, they may have accomplished it.)

In any case, intentional PR stunt? Well, if they guy still has his job after such gross negligence, I would say "yeah... either he works for a Japanese company or it's a stunt." (Makes me wonder, did anyone get fired over the famous Bill Gates Win95 blue-screen debacle?) And is there any precedence of Apple firing anyone over such mishaps in the past?

Re:Everyone's getting in on this PR (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955792)

Just for the latest, non-revolutionary update to an existing product?

It seems a bit of a waste of an opportunity. We know Apple are going to release a new version of the iPhone at some point. It doesn't sound like there's going to be a compelling reason to upgrade. It just seems too much for not a significant enough product.

Re:Everyone's getting in on this PR (1)

Dragonslicer (991472) | more than 4 years ago | (#31957040)

Just for the latest, non-revolutionary update to an existing product?

What better time for an outrageous stunt? Nobody (outside the Reality Distortion Field, anyway) would care about a new iPhone that just has a faster CPU and more memory. After this event, though, there will be two months of constant coverage of the new iPhone that made the news just by being left in a bar.

Re:Everyone's getting in on this PR (4, Insightful)

rhsanborn (773855) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956336)

i heard some commentary on this on NPR, and it makes sense, Steve Jobs operates with leaks, but he doesn't do uncontrolled leaks. I can't imagine he'd do anything that would take the wind out of his sail when he decides he's ready to get up on a stage and show off his new toy. He's far more likely to let little specs leak, a couple feature leaks, but not usually releasing the whole device into the wild.

Re:Everyone's getting in on this PR (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956562)

You're forgetting that it deactivated itself very soon after they got it and are assuming that it really is close to the final version. Leaking an early prototype, missing some of the hardware and software features of the final version, would have the same effect as leaking specs but be a lot more believable.

Re:Everyone's getting in on this PR (5, Funny)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 4 years ago | (#31957240)

...he doesn't do uncontrolled leaks.

It takes a lot of beer for that to happen.

Me too! (1)

strayant (789108) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955414)

I like beer from almost everywhere... sooooo, is someone going to fly me around the world to drink the hell out of some fermented goodness?

Is our friend unemployed? (1)

will.perdikakis (1074743) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955448)

Does anyone have any reliable information about the fate of Mr. Gray Powell? Did he get shit-canned?

Re:Is our friend unemployed? (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956030)

He actually got a promotion. He's now the the senior manual masturbation administrator at Steve Jobs' horse stable.

Re:Is our friend unemployed? (4, Funny)

eln (21727) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956812)

That's "Senior Equine Genetic Specimen Extraction Engineer" you troglodyte.

Taking some time off (4, Funny)

Metrathon (311607) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955474)

Thanks! - It just so happens I'm free the next few weeks!

Great PR potential for Apple to squander (5, Funny)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955480)

The guy fucked up. He fucked up so bad it's gone past serious to not just epic fail but epoch fail. Apple should just run with it.

Mac: Hi, I'm a Mac.

PC: Hi, I'm a PC.

Engineer: And I'm the idiot who lost the prototype iPhone.

Mac: Ouch.

PC: Wow. So that explains the sign around your neck? (points to sign reading "iDiot")

Engineer: Yeah. Steve told me I had to wear it.

PC: I lost a prototype Windows Mobile phone once.

Engineer and Mac: (reaction shots indicating sympathy)

PC: Actually I lost dozens of them, intentionally, hoping the tech blogs would take the bait. (casts eyes down.) Nobody cared.

Mac: (pats PC's shoulder consolingly.) Oh, PC, that's because Windows Mobile sucks.

Re:Great PR potential for Apple to squander (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31955576)

mod parent up -- hilarious!

Re:Great PR potential for Apple to squander (4, Funny)

xavierpayne (697081) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955618)

That's actually a pretty awesome idea for a youtube spoof/skit. Bravo my friend. I am tempted to film it myself.

Re:Great PR potential for Apple to squander (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31955650)

Link or temptation didn't happen!

Re:Great PR potential for Apple to squander (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31955756)

count down to rick rolling link in 3..2..1...

Re:Great PR potential for Apple to squander (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31956548)

Here [youtube.com] . Sorry, I had trouble finding someone to be the PC so I had to use my dog and subtitle his lines. Other than that, it turned out pretty well.

Re:Great PR potential for Apple to squander (1)

bigredradio (631970) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955846)

Well done sir. I look forward to a youtube version of this.

Re:Great PR potential for Apple to squander (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955990)

Have a little robot come and and kick them all in the balls at the end and I'll greenlight it, kid!

Re:Great PR potential for Apple to squander (1)

jDeepbeep (913892) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956342)

Have a little robot come and and kick them all in the balls at the end and I'll greenlight it, kid!

Aye aye.

Re:Great PR potential for Apple to squander (2, Insightful)

ManlySpork (1542827) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956158)

I've used quite a few windows mobile devices, and honnestly I can't see what everyone's gripe with them is. Granted most of the ones I've worked with are PDA's, I haven't had a single complaint to date. A wide variety of software available, decent interface, what's wrong with it, someone just tell me please.

Re:Great PR potential for Apple to squander (1)

fran6gagne (1467469) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956238)

You must be new here... You are on Slashdot and here Microsoft can't do anything good. Anything!

Re:Great PR potential for Apple to squander (1)

ArhcAngel (247594) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956580)

Au contraire, mon frère

Microsoft is quite adept at Embrace, Extend, Extinguish [knowledgerush.com] . They're also quite good at marketing despite some obvious missteps over the years.

Re:Great PR potential for Apple to squander (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956384)

It was a better interface than anything out before, but it's still kinda unresponsive and has that flimsy "Windowsy" feel. Personally I still have a customised Windows ROM on my phone, but I'm thinking of moving to Android for my next device. I'm thankful to Apple for inspiring a bit of competition and creativity in the marketplace, but I've never been one for buying iThings so far..

Re:Great PR potential for Apple to squander (1)

Coren22 (1625475) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956816)

I used to use a WinMo phone, I found that it crashed often enough when a call would come in to be an annoyance, and the phone was quite slow. The slow could have easily been fixed with a faster proc, which is getting better on newer phones, but the random crashes were quite annoying. I now have a BlackBerry Storm which has the same lock up issues, though not as often.

Re:Great PR potential for Apple to squander (1)

six11 (579) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956818)

That's one of the funniest /. posts I've ever read.

Best suggestion I heard (1)

Peter Simpson (112887) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956926)

Steve Jobs should call Gray out of the audience and have *him* introduce the new iPhone at the unveiling.

It would show he has a sense of humor...and no hard feelings. Probably won't happen but would be extremely cool.

And Gray?

Take the flight. Best way to end a bad week is to fly to Germany for a few free beers!

Re:Great PR potential for Apple to squander (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31957082)

That was better than most of the last, oh, fifteen or so Mac V PC spots.

One way ticket???? (1)

OzPeter (195038) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955502)

I read the letter and it seems to offer to fly him *to* Munich, but nothing about flying him back again. Maybe they think he'll get so drunk in their business class lounge that he won't realise where he is.

You can run... (1)

Computer_kid (996105) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955530)

It doesn't matter where you run, Steve will find you!

Seriously, Who Cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31955540)

I could care less.

Yes, I could. I don't have to post this reply...

Re:Seriously, Who Cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31956280)

I'm always puzzled by this difference between English and American*.

The English version "I couldn't care less" seems much more logical.

If you could care less doesn't that imply that you DO care a little?

Whereas if you couldn't care less that implies your concern is already at zero** and that you genuinely have no sympathy left.

* The oft quoted observation that Britain and America are "two nations divided by a common language" has been attributed to several people.

** Obligatory disclaimer on a site such as this: I'm assuming that care does not go negative -- although negative care == positive antipathy ?? -- Discuss

Re:Seriously, Who Cares? (1, Flamebait)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956602)

I'm always puzzled by this difference between English and American*.

It's not a difference between English and American, it's a difference between English and Idiot. Americans who aren't idiots get it right too...

Re:Seriously, Who Cares? (1)

Jake Griffin (1153451) | more than 4 years ago | (#31957032)

Yes, I am from America, and I would say "couldn't care less" so I agree with the parent.

Another commonly messed up saying is when people say "You can't have your cake and eat it too." The original saying was "You can't eat your cake and have it too" which makes more sense because once you eat it you can no longer have it, whereas, you CAN have your cake and then eat it. But because so many people have messed this up, people have just come to learn that the first one means the same as the second (just like you know that "could care less" was supposed to mean "couldn't care less")

At least... (1)

ProdigyPuNk (614140) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955602)

At least he could be drowning his sorrows with good German beer instead of Bud Light. If he's out of a job he might as well go for it (and I'm sure he knows better than anyone what is happening re: his case inside apple). Of course, all this publicity is just going to make him a social pariah in tech circles...

not that big (1)

phantomfive (622387) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955604)

I know what my decision would be

It's sweet, but not like a once in a lifetime opportunity or anything. Assuming he is a typical software engineer in silicon valley, an airplane ticket to Germany is the equivalent of a week or so worth of work. So it's kind of a nice condolence prize, but not really worth losing your job.

Re:not that big (2, Insightful)

magsol (1406749) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955642)

but not really worth losing your job.

Do we know that he hasn't lost his job already?

Re:not that big (1)

the_B0fh (208483) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955920)

Ummm..... I'm not sure what kind of work you do, but if you have to work *ONE* week to be able to afford an air ticket to Germany....

Re:not that big (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31956086)

Ummm..... I'm not sure what kind of work you do, but if you have to work *ONE* week to be able to afford an air ticket to Germany....

Not sure what you're getting at here.

From the US, I just looked, and you can get a ticket to Germany for around $1000 if you shop around. So you need to bring in around $4000/mo to make this work. Figuring after taxes and payroll deductions and other nonsense, that's somewhere around $75K per year, right? So yeah, a ticket to Germany being about a week of work is a pretty reasonable estimate.

Re:not that big (1)

xaxa (988988) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956536)

Doesn't that depend where you work? It seems to be about $600 from New York, but twice that from San Francisco (it's approaching double the distance, after all).

Personally, I can afford a flight to Germany with last night's leftover cash (£25, London to Berlin in August, plus £15 for luggage). I can buy a flight to Denmark for £8 (again, plus £15 if I want to take checked luggage). I really should book a holiday somewhere...

Unprofessional, guys; (4, Insightful)

Doches (761288) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955660)

I was already aghast at Gizmodo for running a story with the poor engineer's name -- there was absolutely no journalistic reason to give his name other than to give Gawker's editors a bit of titillation. He's a human being; human beings make mistakes. I'm more than slightly disappointed that Slashdot, a community that should be sympathetic to the guy, is having a laugh at his expense. Seriously -- who hasn't ever lost their phone or their wallet?

If, mind you, it was even legitimately lost in the first place -- which I still don't believe.

Re:Unprofessional, guys; (0, Redundant)

Marillion (33728) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955870)

What? Seriously? Apple knew who lost the phone when someone, possibly Jobs, walked into the team of testers and said, "Everyone hold up your phone." He looks around, "Mr. Powell, where is your phone?"

Re:Unprofessional, guys; (1)

lurch_mojoff (867210) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956092)

*takes a deep breath* FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME, NOBODY IS ARGUING APPLE DIDN'T KNOW HIS IDENTITY! *and exhale* The point Doches is making, and completely agree with, is that we should not splatter his name and face all over teh intertubes and laugh at his expense. The guy has it quite hard as is and he can do without out visceral gloating.

Re:Unprofessional, guys; (2, Insightful)

Coren22 (1625475) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956904)

I believe the attempt by Giz was to help the guy by making it public. The idea is that if many people know who he was, then Apple can't quietly fire him. They would take quite a hit for firing him at this point and it would look petty.

Re:Unprofessional, guys; (4, Funny)

whisper_jeff (680366) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956066)

Seriously -- who hasn't ever lost their phone or their wallet?

Me.

Of course, having said that, I'm now going to lose both _and_ my car keys... Thanks.

Re:Unprofessional, guys; (3, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956068)

Just because you laugh at someone's foibles doesn't mean you aren't sympathetic with their plight.

Re:Unprofessional, guys; (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31956150)

hang on ... so you're mad a gizmodo and slashdot for exposing this guys name and all that, but you think it was all a hoax anyway? sorry ...i'm not fluent in doublspeak ...

Can open, worms everywhere (4, Interesting)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956198)

I was already aghast at Gizmodo for running a story with the poor engineer's name

Me too. Uncalled for.

I'm more than slightly disappointed that Slashdot, a community that should be sympathetic to the guy

They (we?) are... I mean, his name is known, so why not promote one positive thing that has happened for/to him in the last week? It's a way of saying, we feel terrible for you, but at least you can get a free trip to Germany and a nice beer to drown your sorrows.

I don't see this as having a laugh at his expense or mean spirited at all.

Re:Unprofessional, guys; (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31956322)

I was already aghast at Gizmodo for running a story with the poor engineer's name -- there was absolutely no journalistic reason to give his name other than to give Gawker's editors a bit of titillation. He's a human being; human beings make mistakes. I'm more than slightly disappointed that Slashdot, a community that should be sympathetic to the guy, is having a laugh at his expense. Seriously -- who hasn't ever lost their phone or their wallet?

If, mind you, it was even legitimately lost in the first place -- which I still don't believe.

Haven't lost a wallet in 20 years, and never lost a cell phone.

Re:Unprofessional, guys; (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31956780)

So you have lost your wallet?

Re:Unprofessional, guys; (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956406)

OK, his name is out, and he talked about it on his blog. At that point it's fine.

We are sympathetic, but he is getting a free trip to Germany out of it.

Re:Unprofessional, guys; (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31956934)

So, wait, you're mad at Gizmodo for doing the investigation and giving unwanted press to a guy who is, by your estimation, a scam artist and possibly manipulating the press on Apple's behalf?

Why?

If he did lose the phone on accident, then sure, you can go ahead and feel bad for him. If, however, as you say, he decided to voluntarily take on an assignment to jack with the gadget obsessed press (who are notoriously immature and have been for years, see the CES Gizmodo debacles for clarity) he HAD to know what was coming his way.

You can't have it both ways. He's a shyster, and you have no cause to feel pity, or he's a f*** up, in which case stop covering your arse by claiming that you're the one who sees through the disguise.

iPhone Misplacer? (1)

IANAAC (692242) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955716)

See, now I would have gone for the much more direct "iPhone Loser" summary title.

Relax people, it's meant as a joke, not a troll/flamebait/whatever.

Re:iPhone Misplacer? (1)

CavemanKiwi (559158) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955802)

iPhone Looser? :)

They are just hoping... (1)

Digital_Liberty (259479) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955748)

he leaves behind a next-generation iPad.

"Hapless" my ass (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31955824)

This whole fucking thing is an Apple PR stunt, and you idiots are all falling for it.

If it were real, Apple could not only force Gizmodo to take down any mention of it, they could even get them arrested for possession of stolen property.

Re:"Hapless" my ass (3, Insightful)

jayme0227 (1558821) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956040)

If it were real, Apple could not only force Gizmodo to take down any mention of it, they could even get them arrested for possession of stolen property.

Nah. The cat's out of the bag, they know they can't shove it back in now, so they have to roll with it. It would only be bad press if they tried to get the info taken down or have anyone arrested, plus, everyone who wants the information already has it, so taking it down would accomplish nothing.

NPR had reported that according to "industry insiders" this was completely accidental. Apple doesn't need to pull a stunt like this to energize their fan base, and I doubt this will pull anyone new over to Apple's camp. What this does, however, is give Apple's competition a leg up on where they are heading with their next-gen device. Basically they had little gain and much to lose.

Re:"Hapless" my ass (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31956082)

Bullshit. Look at all the press. And if Apple cared about leaks as much as they get idiots to believe, they would use this to set an example for the next time some idiot wanted to tear apart a load of stolen property.

Bottom line, if this were real, Jesus Diaz would be in jail right now. Period.

Re:"Hapless" my ass (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31956312)

That is unless Apple wanted to have other people guess on which direction they were heading only for them to be actually going a completely different direction. I would have done the exact same thing to throw off what direction I was going to all the people following me.

I say it is intentional.

Nathan

Re:"Hapless" my ass (1)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956486)

The thought had crossed my mind that this was a deliberate misinformation campaign on Apple's behalf. But it would be insane to development a working prototype just for that. Now, if they had several different prototypes and this was just the one that didn't get chosen, that might make a little sense. But I don't really see much benefit to Apple in leaking a misleading prototype. I also don't think the next gen iPhone is going to be much of a surprise -- it's feature set will be fairly close to the current model, and fairly predictable.

Re:"Hapless" my ass (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956640)

Take a look at what Apple did to Think Secret, one of the few Apple rumour sites that actually did post unintentional leaks. Now take a look at what they do to places that run controlled leaks. Notice that their treatment of Gizmodo is identical to the latter. Draw your own conclusions.

Re:"Hapless" my ass (2, Interesting)

Coren22 (1625475) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956958)

Actually, according to a few sources, the original person who found the item attempted to contact Apple, and he was ignored. No stolen property if you attempt to return and the owner doesn't want it.

Ulterior motives (1)

Arancaytar (966377) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955916)

Lufthansa is planning to get him drunk on the flight and hoping he'll leave his phone on the plane.

Re:Ulterior motives (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956426)

ANd he shoud get a phone with a bunch of fake features in it... Or fill it full of seawater and seal it.

Re:Ulterior motives (1, Flamebait)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956654)

If it's anything like my experiences with Lufthansa - the company trying single-handedly to prove that German efficiency is a myth - then they're hoping he'll put it in his checked luggage, where they can recover it when it ends up on a different continent to him.

Famous (1)

vikingpower (768921) | more than 4 years ago | (#31955932)

If this guy pursues a career in tech ( is he an engineer ? ), he may become famous. Anyways, nice stunt from Lufthansa. I flew with them once to India - most laidback airline personnel I ever dealt with on a long flight.

Re:Famous (2, Funny)

nomadic (141991) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956460)

most laidback airline personnel I ever dealt with on a long flight.

Well the Germans are so well-known for being laidback...

Re:Famous (3, Funny)

Arthur Grumbine (1086397) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956856)

most laidback airline personnel I ever dealt with on a long flight.

Well the Germans are so well-known for being laidback...

I suspect Dutch outsourcing..

German news wants their own iPhone 4G (1)

tlhIngan (30335) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956022)

I guess the thinking is that since he lost one, he probably has a replacement now. All they have to do is get him over to Germany, get him drunk, and hopefully he'll misplace his new one. Which will be an even later prototype to scoop Gizmodo.

After all, aren't C't and Heise based in Germany?

(Yes, that was a joke)

On a more serious note - it could also be that Apple realizes that iPhones just aren't news anymore. Look at their Macs - they tend to just get quietly refreshed these days unless there's some major big announcement. Ditto iPods (the Touch, Shuffle and Nano stole the keynote, the Classic being just a mere footnote). Short of something amazing, iPhones will probably head the same way - a new one gets released with little fanfare. After all, all the major features are already announced as part of iPhone OS 4.0 - all we learned from Gizmodo is what the new hardware might have. The iPad was new and novel for Apple, heads would've rolled had someone accidentally lost that.

Re:German news wants their own iPhone 4G (1)

lennier1 (264730) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956474)

After all, aren't C't and Heise based in Germany?

Heise is the publishing house and c't & iX are the major magazines in their portfolio.
With c't being the one for the upper mainstream market whereas iX is clearly aimed at readers in the tech industry.

What about the money? (3, Interesting)

Neoprofin (871029) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956026)

Should a company that's asking for millions of Euros in government bailouts be paying for publicity stunts? I mean I know a single flight from Seattle to Frankfurt isn't going to cost the airline itself much of anything, but what kind of message does it send to the tens of thousands of people who have been stranded for the last week or all of the Germans who are going to pay the potential bailout money if Lufthansa starts handing out free flights to guys just because they like German beer.

P.S. Saying "German beer" is like saying "American beer". I'd honestly be curious what he was drinking, most of the interesting stuff is the local city brews and I can tell you some of them are every bit the flavorless piss water of Coors.

Re:What about the money? (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956450)

"Should a company that's asking for millions of Euros in government bailouts be paying for publicity stunts?
yes. DO you know why companies do them? It's to get more business.

Al;so, German Beer as strict guidelines that don't apply to American Beer. I see you point, but you can get 'beer' made from rice in Germany.

Re:What about the money? (1)

Neoprofin (871029) | more than 4 years ago | (#31957048)

When Germany has a strict guideline of "beer isn't alcoholic piss water" I'll care.

I'm not some snob either, I probably put down more Highlife than anything else but this idea that people have that ALL Belgians or Germans are incredible just shows that they've never drank in Europe. The real bastard with Belgians is that I spent five months there drinking anywhere a train can go, and every beer they serve is available at my local grocery store at the same price. Stupid globalization is taking all the fun out of life.

Re:What about the money? (1)

xaxa (988988) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956624)

It's called marketing. They thinks it's cheaper than an advertising campaign, and they're almost certainly correct -- they're on the front page of several technical news sites. Next time you book a flight you're meant to think good things about Lufthansa and choose them.

Re:What about the money? (1)

Neoprofin (871029) | more than 4 years ago | (#31957096)

Too bad they're massively more expensive than most of the competing airlines, although from what I hear they're also far more flexible if there ends up being a situation where you need to change things. I've flown trans-Atlantic three times in the last four months, Delta/KLM and Aer Lingus and paid nearly half what I would have with Lufthansa.

Re:What about the money? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31957030)

"some of them are every bit the flavorless piss water of Coors."

But most of them aren't.

As a foreigner living in Munich, Germany, I can tell you that most countries (except maybe Belgium) have very good reason to go to Germany for the beer.

Free (5, Funny)

jDeepbeep (913892) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956156)

Free. As in beer.

Bailout (1)

WilyCoder (736280) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956186)

So the guy who lost the phone is getting bailed out with beer.

Interesting.

maTre (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31956204)

Homer put it best (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31956320)

"Beer: the cause of and solution to all of life's problems!"

Getting Drunk (1)

UninformedCoward (1738488) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956382)

So getting drunk is both the cause and solution to all of this guys troubles? Sir, you may have a drinking problem.

PR fake (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31956620)

Come on, even if the story is true, it is clear that Apple is spreading it to be in the news. Now Lufthansa is playing the same game, referring to the same fake story. It's ingenious.

4G? (1)

paul248 (536459) | more than 4 years ago | (#31956762)

Is this just the 4th-generation iPhone, or will it operate on 4G LTE/WiMAX networks?

Apple really seeded confusion when they called their second-generation device the "3G", but got back in sync by calling their third-gen device the "3GS". If their 4th-gen device doesn't have 4G wireless, it'll be a mess again.

Re:4G? (2, Insightful)

Jake Griffin (1153451) | more than 4 years ago | (#31957242)

I don't see how that's confusing... There is the original iPhone (iPhone), the 2nd generation with 3G capabilities (iPhone 3G), the 3rd generation with some new features still on the 3G network (iPhone 3GS)... Would you rather they had called the 2nd iPhone the "iPhone 2G with 3G capabilities"? Now THAT would have been confusing...
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