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Man Put On "No-Fly List" While In Air To NYC

samzenpus posted about 4 years ago | from the beware-the-list-refresh dept.

Transportation 300

An unnamed man flying from Nigeria to New York City found out he was added to a no-fly list somewhere above the Atlantic Ocean, when the plane stopped to refuel in San Juan, Puerto Rico. Officials won't say what he did or why he was added to the list after he had already boarded a flight. He was not immediately charged with a crime and Customs and Border Protection will only say that he is a "potential person of interest." From the article: "The man, a citizen of Gambia, was not on the no-fly list when he boarded the aircraft in Dakar, Senegal, said a US official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the issue publicly."

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Quick Question (5, Funny)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | about 4 years ago | (#31959322)

Do they still put Parachutes on airliners?

Re:Quick Question (1)

tginouye (1795058) | about 4 years ago | (#31959370)

If not, they could always toss him out on the raft thingie. I think mythbusters tested it out and it may be plausible to survive...if someone picked him up once he hit the ocean.

Re:Quick Question (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31960540)

A handful of people have actually survived the fall from cruise altitude and landed in a tree or such, which has softened the fall so that they have survived (with serious injuries, though). I suppose that's the most exclusive "mile high club" there can be...

Re:Quick Question (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31960114)

Do they still put Parachutes on airliners?

They only put parachutes on small aircraft. ... Oh, you mean for the passengers! This is a center-right nation; who cares about passengers once they've paid up?

Re:Quick Question (1)

leuk_he (194174) | about 4 years ago | (#31960324)

Silly idea. When you are under a parachute you are still flying. It would make far more sense to change his name in mid flight to prevent a legal criminal act.

Re:Quick Question (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31960640)

He won't need a parachute since that would constitute flying.

No fly list is a dumb idea (5, Interesting)

surmak (1238244) | about 4 years ago | (#31959448)

Perhaps this case is an exception, but I have always fest that the no-fly list is one of the dumbest ideas out there. In a criminal case (which terrorism and conspiracy are) you do not want to let the suspect know you are on to them until the cops come to arrest them. With the watch lists, all a sleeper has to do is take a commercial flight, and they will immediately know if they are on a watch list.

Not to mention the civil liberties abuses that result when someone is denied the right to travel (by air) with due process, no notification, and no effective means of appeal.

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (2, Interesting)

Kamokazi (1080091) | about 4 years ago | (#31959594)

Perhaps this case is an exception, but I have always fest that the no-fly list is one of the dumbest ideas out there. In a criminal case (which terrorism and conspiracy are) you do not want to let the suspect know you are on to them until the cops come to arrest them.

Considering the main point of the no-fly list is to prevent suicide bombings, combined with the fact that it's hard to arrest a corpse, I think the preventative method is a better choice.

(I am in no way endorsing the no-fly list, just using some sarcastic humor to point out the part the parent missed)

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (4, Insightful)

2obvious4u (871996) | about 4 years ago | (#31959758)

Considering the main point of the no-fly list is to prevent suicide bombings, combined with the fact that it's hard to arrest a corpse, I think the preventative method is a better choice.

Except for the fact that the percentage of suicide bombers vs the number of passenger miles flown is so ridiculously small it shouldn't warrant such a heavy handed response. Even if we removed all the security from airports there probably wouldn't be that many more incidents if any. Also within minutes of the 9/11 attacks when people realized that hi-jackers weren't taking planes for joy rides to Cuba anymore; the passengers of planes started to keep an eye out for suspicious behavior and started reacting to threats. Starting with Flight 93 planes have already secured themselves; had the Flight 93 passengers realized sooner what the cooks with box cutters were doing they may have even been able to safely land their plane.

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31959962)

Except for the part where the tail section of the plane was "removed" mid-flight causing an instant nosedive.

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (1)

ooshna (1654125) | about 4 years ago | (#31960032)

Shh we don't take about that or how the third smaller tower collapsed with no damage.

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (4, Insightful)

rickb928 (945187) | about 4 years ago | (#31960444)

"Except for the fact that the percentage of suicide bombers vs the number of passenger miles flown is so ridiculously small it shouldn't warrant such a heavy handed response. Even if we removed all the security from airports there probably wouldn't be that many more incidents if any"

I disagree with your assessment. Hijackings to Cuba were in the vogue until security made them pretty much pointless. Suicide bombers don't actually want to anywhere but heaven, so any destination for the plane is both irrelevant and moot, though you could make the point that U.S. bound planes would be more popular than others.

Actually, try leaving your front door open at home, and announcing that fact down at the local coffee shop. repeatedly. See how that lack of security works for ya. Haven't seen anyone scratching at your door lately, have you? Must not be any real problem.

And suicide bombers are at least as motivated as your local meth head getting a cuppa at Starbucks.

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (1)

Enderandrew (866215) | about 4 years ago | (#31959646)

Would you rather they enforce a no-fly list for "people of interest" (often because they attended terrorist training camps, or that we have to remove yet another piece of clothing in the airport for security theater?

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31959734)

I'd rather get rid of security theater and take my chances. I'll still be more likely to die on the road on the way to the airport than be killed by a terrorist.

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (4, Insightful)

mwvdlee (775178) | about 4 years ago | (#31959892)

I'd rather have neither.
People seem to forget that THAT is also an option.

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (2, Insightful)

Enderandrew (866215) | about 4 years ago | (#31960146)

Not really. Everytime we have an underwear-bomber, we need a useless knee-jerk reaction to make people feel safe.

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31960266)

Solution: ban all underwear. This way you don't even have to worry about dirty underwear should there be an incident. :P

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (1)

nospam007 (722110) | about 4 years ago | (#31960508)

"Not really. Everytime we have an underwear-bomber,..."

We need to capture one with a bomb where the sun doesn't shine, that would get rid of the underwear problem.

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (2, Interesting)

mweather (1089505) | about 4 years ago | (#31959944)

How about we just make it illegal to attend a terrorist training camp and arrest those who do? Last I checked, convicts have their own airline.

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (3, Interesting)

Enderandrew (866215) | about 4 years ago | (#31960176)

Are you suggesting me make it illegal to associate with others, or to pursue information?

I think that is a far worse offense to civil liberties than a no-fly list.

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31960194)

Well... what do you call NRA meetings? ;p

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31960490)

That's a false dichotomy.

How about we stop giving people reasons to terrorize us?

Lets start my not creating illegal wars, and disregarding the politics and culture of other countries that are different from ours.

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31960650)

Yea, and then we can force all americans to convert to Muslim religions and eliminate democracy. There will ALWAYS be reasons to terrorize us.

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (5, Insightful)

dkleinsc (563838) | about 4 years ago | (#31959696)

That would be if your actual goal was to capture terrorists, convince them to talk, capture more terrorists, etc. If on the other hand your goal is to harass people who are a color or religion you don't like, then they're very very effective. And the best part is that through these petty annoyances you convince more of them that the US is in fact the great evil that should be wiped off the face of the earth, making sure that no matter how many bad guys you capture you're never going to be out of a job.

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (3, Insightful)

socz (1057222) | about 4 years ago | (#31959818)

In Arizona they're trying to pass a no walk/swim list law so they can question anyone who "looks like they could be in the country illegally." Poor native americans, they'll never know what hit them!

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (2, Interesting)

Abstrackt (609015) | about 4 years ago | (#31960246)

In Arizona they're trying to pass a no walk/swim list law so they can question anyone who "looks like they could be in the country illegally." Poor native americans, they'll never know what hit them!

At first I laughed when I read your comment, but I'm less and less sure it's a joke.

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (2, Interesting)

conspirator57 (1123519) | about 4 years ago | (#31959708)

you have no right to travel by air. even to petition your government. the federal court claimed you have available alternatives that are "just as good". apparently we're expected to get on a horse and take 3-5 months traveling from the west coast to the east coast. it was good enough in the 1800s, the last time the judges did it, dammit. and you Hawaiians and Alaskans? Better work on that side stroke. (It takes ID for Alaskans to go through Canada.)

http://www.papersplease.org/wp/ [papersplease.org]
http://www.papersplease.org/gilmore/ [papersplease.org]

kthxbai.

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (3, Interesting)

zill (1690130) | about 4 years ago | (#31960572)

you have no right to travel by air.

Does any article of the Constitution specifically deny me the right to air travel?

If not, then the Ninth Amendment grants me that right.

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (0)

socz (1057222) | about 4 years ago | (#31959788)

I watched a "Special" on 9/11 and they said one of the persons who were supposed to take part on the action was unable to board because of the list. No one knew what was going to happen at the time, but it was at least one instance in that it helped somewhat.

Another thing that could have helped was the "No Hookers List." If they had that report, they could have seen the Muslims who were racking up charges at strip joints. Would have been easy to catch!

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31960482)

I watched a "Special" on 9/11 and they said one of the persons who were supposed to take part on the action was unable to board because of the list.

That must have been quite a "special," seeing as the list didn't even exist at the time.

Another thing that could have helped was the "No Hookers List." If they had that report, they could have seen the Muslims who were racking up charges at strip joints.

Alas, this apparently an urban legend: http://www.911myths.com/html/strip_clubs.html [911myths.com]

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (0, Flamebait)

ewoods (108845) | about 4 years ago | (#31959856)

"Not to mention the civil liberties abuses that result when someone is denied the right to travel (by air) with due process, no notification, and no effective means of appeal."

That remark alone shows your ignorance. There is no "right to travel (by air)". It is a privilege for those who meet certain conditions. Having the money comes first. After that, keeping out of trouble, public safety concerns, all that comes next. If they cannot meet those conditions and, perhaps, more, then they cannot get on a plane.

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (1)

ewoods (108845) | about 4 years ago | (#31959972)

Let me amend my previous remark - if the guy can strap on a pair of wings and flap his arms fast enough, then he might have some semblance of a right to travel through the air. Or maybe if he is shot out of a big cannon in the direction from whence he came... Although any form of air travel is trumped by public safety concerns.

Still, no "right to travel by air". I just love how people take random things (e.g. healthcare, social security, etc.) and start calling them rights. They're only rights if a greater majority is willing to give up something for someone else to have them. Or a gov't mandates it, usually against the will of that majority. That's taking away civil liberties.

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31960368)

I wonder what would happen if the airlines put up a sign, "No Blacks Allowed!". There may be no "right to fly", but when the government starts telling people that they can't use a commercial service and provides no explanation and no proof that anyone has done anything wrong, I'm going to call bullshit. Especially considering the number of false-positives the no-fly list turns up (forbidding children from flying because they have the same name as some suspect. Or Senators. Senators are at least someone understandable, they're a pretty untrustworthy lot)

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (4, Insightful)

vux984 (928602) | about 4 years ago | (#31960256)

I'm not the OP, but I'd like to respond.

That remark alone shows your ignorance. There is no "right to travel (by air)

Not to split hairs here. But there is no right to FLY a plane. Just as there is no right to DRIVE a car.

I find it rather interesting its reached the point where you are justifying that someone should be denied the 'priviledge' of riding in one too. Do you support depriving someone the "priviledge" of being a *passenger* on a car or bus or boat (including ferries) too?

It is a privilege for those who meet certain conditions.

And those conditions are what exactly? As it stands right now, you can't be on a plane if you have brownish skin and a name vaguely similiar to a guy who the FBI thinks might have known someone who attended an event suspected of being a terrorist recruiting event... whether this other person completely unrelated to you actually even joined, assuming it was actually a terrorist recruiting event.

If they cannot meet those conditions and, perhaps, more, then they cannot get on a plane.

An e woods recently ran a red light. That's dangerous and could kill someone. As a result I think anyone named 'e woods' 'e. woods' 'ed woods' 'ed wood' should be prohibited from driving a car. Further, I think anyone by this name should also be prohibited from RIDING in a car... they might overpower the driver and kill someone.

I guess you don't meet the conditions to get in a car anymore. Never mind a plane.

Don't complain to me though, you don't have a right to be a car. Its just a privilege. One you don't meet the conditions for.

Sucks to be you.

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (0, Troll)

ewoods (108845) | about 4 years ago | (#31960596)

In response, you're goddamned right they can be denied a privilege. Do you think a repeat-offender drunk driver who has killed should have the privilege to drive again? Not a chance.

Now, if you want to argue that they were denied the privilege to fly without due process, well, there's no due process for preemptively denying that privilege. The guy's name showed on a watch list - there's usually a reason for it and for those who shouldn't be there, they have legal recourse to get removed.

Your arguments are red herrings laden with a smattering of pure bullshit. This guy has a right to walk anywhere he wants, travel freely, until someone with more power gets in his way. Sucks to be him.

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (2, Interesting)

scharkalvin (72228) | about 4 years ago | (#31960144)

Not to mention the errors made in adding names to the list. A coworkers 6 year old son was on the list, they discovered this while checking in to board a flight while on vacation. The airport officials had the good common sense to realize a 6 year old kid isn't a terrorist and let them all board the flight. Now they have to go through channels to get the kid removed from the NFL.

Re:No fly list is a dumb idea (4, Funny)

freeweed (309734) | about 4 years ago | (#31960522)

Now they have to go through channels to get the kid removed from the NFL.

Tell him to try dog fighting.

Flying from Nigeria to the US *is* pretty suspect (1)

d1r3lnd (1743112) | about 4 years ago | (#31959472)

And you thought being pulled over for DWB was a pain... it's got nothing on FWN.

Re:Flying from Nigeria to the US *is* pretty suspe (1)

Erikderzweite (1146485) | about 4 years ago | (#31959662)

DWB... FWN... WTF?

Re:Flying from Nigeria to the US *is* pretty suspe (4, Informative)

houstonbofh (602064) | about 4 years ago | (#31959704)

DWB... FWN... WTF?

Driving while black. Flying while Nigerian. World Trade Federation.

Re:Flying from Nigeria to the US *is* pretty suspe (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31959722)

DWB... FWN... WTF?

Driving While Black... Flying While Nigerian... What The Fuck

What do I win?

Re:Flying from Nigeria to the US *is* pretty suspe (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31959724)

DWB - Driving While Black (sadly this still happens)
FWN - Flying While Nigerian (two data points make a trend)
WTF - precedes tasty BBQ hacks.

Re:Flying from Nigeria to the US *is* pretty suspe (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31959730)

driving while black...flying while nigerian

Re:Flying from Nigeria to the US *is* pretty suspe (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31959738)

DWB - Driving While Black (still the most common reason people are pulled over in certain parts of the US)

FWN - I assume Flying While Nigerian...

Re:Flying from Nigeria to the US *is* pretty suspe (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31959764)

Presumably "Driving While Black", and "Flying While Nigerian"

Re:Flying from Nigeria to the US *is* pretty suspe (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31959910)

Flying While Nigger

Re:Flying from Nigeria to the US *is* pretty suspe (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31960050)

DWB... FWN... WTF?

DWB=Dorge W. Bush...yet another of the Bush family
FWN=Free Willy Now... a radical terrorist group that bombs whales to protest whales in captivity

And people wonder... (3, Insightful)

houstonbofh (602064) | about 4 years ago | (#31959474)

And people wonder why airline travel is down in the US. Or, to the US for that matter.

Re:And people wonder... (5, Interesting)

gyrogeerloose (849181) | about 4 years ago | (#31959700)

And people wonder why airline travel is down in the US. Or, to the US for that matter.

I'll give you an example of why airline travel is down in the US:

I flew from San Diego to San Francisco last weekend and got pulled aside because of some ham radio equipment (two small VHF hand-held transceivers) in my carry-on bag. I explained what they were while the TSA guy ripped everything out of my bag and ran it all through the X-ray machine again. Then I explained it all again to his supervisor. Took about a half hour but, "fortunately," my flight was delayed two hours so I was okay.

Any other old greybeards out there remember when flying was fun? An adventure, rather than a big PITA only slightly better than traveling on a Greyhound bus?

Re:And people wonder... (5, Insightful)

FrozenGeek (1219968) | about 4 years ago | (#31959804)

Yeah, when I was a kid, flying was an adventure and a lot of fun. Now it's a PITA. It's been several years since I seriously considered a vacation that involved flying. I'd rather drive. If I have to fly to do it, odds are I'm not going to do it. If my attitude spreads, the airlines are in trouble.

Re:And people wonder... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31960190)

You two are so spoiled. It's not that big of a deal. In the words of the irreverent Arnold Schwarzenegger, "Stop whining!"

Re:And people wonder... (4, Insightful)

AndersOSU (873247) | about 4 years ago | (#31960076)

I'd be surprised if security theater accounts form more than 0.5% of the decrease in domestic air travel. People just don't care. Air travel is down domestically because prices are up and theres a recession. Nothing more, nothing less.

Now tourism may have suffered because the US is perceived (accurately?) to have become less friendly for foreigners - but the airport rigmarole is only tangentially related to even that.

Re:And people wonder... (1)

the linux geek (799780) | about 4 years ago | (#31960196)

Why the fuck is this modded troll?

Re:And people wonder... (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31960600)

Why the fuck is this modded troll?

Because moderators are allowed to freely moderate. If you don't like it, go back to digg

Re:And people wonder... (3, Insightful)

tsalmark (1265778) | about 4 years ago | (#31960306)

As a non US citizen that has traveled far less to the US since 2000 I can assure you border crossings, be that air or land, account for most of the reason I'm not there as much.

Re:And people wonder... (2, Interesting)

Heem (448667) | about 4 years ago | (#31960014)

Absolutely right! I haven't flown since pre-September 2001, and have no plans of doing so anytime soon, or in the future. I'd rather drive then deal with the security theater and the possibility that I'd be harassed, even though I have nothing to hide or have done nothing wrong. I've heard way too many stories of innocent people being detained for just having a similar name to someone "of interest".. I'll drive.

My bet... (2, Insightful)

beefnog (718146) | about 4 years ago | (#31959488)

I'd be willing to wager that the traits making him a person of interest are:

- coming from a county known to have a large islamic population
- being non-white
- having " al" or "bin" somewhere in his name

But rest assured, we're being protected from something, somewhere, for some reason!

Re:My bet... (3, Funny)

Spad (470073) | about 4 years ago | (#31959848)

That's a cynical and inaccurate view on the situation.

He also had a beard.

Re:My bet... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31959964)

Or possibly just _Potentially_ had a beard....

Or perhaps a close family member.....

discrepancy (1)

mugurel (1424497) | about 4 years ago | (#31959498)

There's a huge discrepancy between the Protection saying this is a `potential person of interest', and the suspect pleading guilty of framing bomb attacks on NY subways. It gives me an uncanny feeling about both the concept of `potential person of interest' and pleading guilty.

So, what now? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31959504)

Has he been identified? Has his family been informed? What happened next?

Too little, too late ? (1)

ProdigyPuNk (614140) | about 4 years ago | (#31959524)

If the guy DID have bad intentions, this would have been much too late to help any of the passengers. It'd be nice to know exactly what happened on the plane after they found out he was added to the No-Fly List. What does staff do in a situation like that ? I doubt the flight attendants are trained to frisk a suspect and hold him down until the plane can land. If he did have a bomb or other weapon on him, how exactly would this have played out ? I'm sure other passengers would have helped out, but by that time he could have already killed people. I'm not against a no-fly list in theory, but if all it serves to do is harass innocents without any tangible results, what's the point ?

Re:Too little, too late ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31959596)

I'm not against a no-fly list in theory, but if all it serves to do is harass innocents without any tangible results, what's the point ?

<homer>In theory, communism works. In theory.</homer>

Re:Too little, too late ? (1)

Jaysyn (203771) | about 4 years ago | (#31959604)

So the powers that be can say they are doing *something* to combat terrorism. Even though it's pretty much ineffectual.

Re:Too little, too late ? (4, Informative)

houstonbofh (602064) | about 4 years ago | (#31959688)

So the powers that be can say they are doing *something* to combat terrorism. Even though it's pretty much ineffectual.

We should all masturbate to fight terrorism. Just as effective as the TSA, but more fun.

wtf? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31959562)

So he is not, at this moment, a person of interest? Why is he being detained?

The Gambia (5, Informative)

penguinchris (1020961) | about 4 years ago | (#31959624)

This country is, funnily enough, actually called "The Gambia" [wikipedia.org] , not Gambia, and it's got a really funny shape [google.com] that follows the course of the Gambia River. A pretty interesting place, actually.

Re:The Gambia (1)

TheOtherChimeraTwin (697085) | about 4 years ago | (#31959838)

This country is, funnily enough, actually called "The Gambia", not Gambia

and which is commonly known as Gambia by its residents (from the same source you cited)

Re:The Gambia (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31959918)

So sort of like the Google. Or the Texas.

Re:The Gambia (1)

vux984 (928602) | about 4 years ago | (#31960318)

From your own link "Republic of The Gambia"

"The Gambia, officially the Republic of The Gambia and which is commonly known as Gambia by its residents"

A Lifetime of material for late night jokes (1)

xednieht (1117791) | about 4 years ago | (#31959634)

The Department of Homeland Stupidity at it's finest. And have we moved from "person of interest" to "potential person of interest"? I have an idea lets develop a color scheme for how interesting a person is or how much potential a person has for being interesting.

Somebody quick check his underwear.

Re:A Lifetime of material for late night jokes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31960316)

lets develop a color scheme for how interesting a person is

Oh my god! He's a blackwatch plaid!

Get outta my plane! (1)

Kazymyr (190114) | about 4 years ago | (#31959664)

I can imagine the flight attendant: "Sir, you have to get out of the plane. Now".

Re:Get outta my plane! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31959732)

In Soviet Russia, Plane gets out of you!!!

Re:Get outta my plane! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31960034)

Sounds painful.

Re:Get outta my plane! (1)

Shompol (1690084) | about 4 years ago | (#31959906)

Actually it was a SWAT team with M16 and full camouflage bulletproof armor that boarded the plane and politely offered him a refund and an inflatable boat to paddle home.

Grab his shoes and underpants! (2, Funny)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | about 4 years ago | (#31959698)

"Hi, I'm your stewardess. Would you like chicken or beef for your meal?"

"Oh, and please give me your shoes and underpants."

"It's just normal procedure, sir."

The poor captain: "Good Morning Air Traffic Control, I have some chop here, request permission to climb."

Air Traffic Control: "Fuck the chop . . . you have a no fly passenger on board . . . good day!

This nice man needs somebodys help. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31959832)

This man is Nigerian Royalty and was delivering my $2.7 million!

Re:This nice man needs somebodys help. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31959954)

Please send another $20,000 so I can bribe the officials detaining me, and proceed on my way delivering your money. I would like to reiterate my extreme thanks for all the help you have given me and look forward to delivering your return on your investments.

No-Land List (1)

kiehlster (844523) | about 4 years ago | (#31959934)

Well, lucky for him, he wasn't put on a No-Land List while he was flying. Of course, it's usually the astronauts that get on that list.

Understatement: (1)

Anonymous Freak (16973) | about 4 years ago | (#31959956)

Passenger Nbaye Beye said the man, who appeared to be in his late 20s, appeared nervous when approached by a U.S. agent but got off the plane quietly.

Really, someone who was announced by the captain of the flight, to everyone onboard, that he was a "serious security risk", got nervous when approached by what could be assumed to be an armed federal agent???

Yeah. Because I NEVER get nervous after being called a serious security risk and being approached by a federal officer...

<facepalm>

This guy's lucky none of the passengers decided to go vigilante [go.com] on him.

The Country is in the Very Best of Hands (0, Offtopic)

BigFire (13822) | about 4 years ago | (#31960048)

Pay no attention to the folks trying to kill us. Them Tea Party terrorist are the real enemy

Re:The Country is in the Very Best of Hands (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#31960342)

Because he was taken off a flight, he must be the real enemy, and trying to kill people? Care to wait for the trial?

Unnamed man (1)

dreamer.redeemer (1600257) | about 4 years ago | (#31960124)

Maybe it just took them a while to figure out how to add the name of an unnamed man to the list. Technically he has always been on the list since the empty set is a subset of all sets, it was probably just that the for the first check they made the mistake of querying "Unnamed Man," a different person altogether who has not yet been discovered to be a threat.

What should they have done? (3, Insightful)

still cynical (17020) | about 4 years ago | (#31960510)

Putting aside for the moment the question of whether or not the "no-fly" lists serve a legitimate purpose (they don't), what should they have done? If information indicating a particular person may be dangerous comes in while someone is already in transit, should they have just said "Damn, if we had been a little quicker we wouldn't let you in, but you beat the buzzer. We suspect you're a terrorist, but since you had already left you can come in this time. But next time, forget it!"

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