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Backdoor Malware Targets Apple iPad

CmdrTaco posted more than 4 years ago | from the that-didn't-take-long dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Apple iPad users are being warned of an email-borne threat which could give hackers unauthorised access to the device. The threat arrives via an unsolicited email urging the recipient to download the latest version of iTunes as a prelude to updating their iPad software. Apart from opening up a backdoor, it also tries to read the keys and serial numbers of the software installed on the device, and logs the passwords to any webmail, IM or protected storage accounts."

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Wrong wrong wrong... (5, Informative)

richy freeway (623503) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998088)

This DOESN'T infect the iPad at all. It targets the idiots who bought an iPad but it is a WINDOWS virus.


See here for further details : http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/26/ipad_backdoor/ [theregister.co.uk]

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (4, Informative)

drewhk (1744562) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998158)

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (-1, Offtopic)

richy freeway (623503) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998250)

Probably because I called iPad owners idiots, the fanboys jumped on it. I still think iPad owners are idiots though.

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31998276)

Calling gay people "idiots" could be construed as bigotry, thus the flamebait mod.

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (-1, Troll)

dskzero (960168) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998936)

XD Also, check this out:

It's estimated that Apple has sold just over a million iPads to date. Since buyers are likely to have a lot of disposable income and not much sense, they make a great target for e-criminals.

Tru dat, tru dat.

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31998302)

Just because you can't think differently in a manner identical to all the other fruits, doesn't make them idiots...

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31998668)

But, but, but,... mommy... they use iPhones..

Why aren't they idiots then...?

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (3, Funny)

drewhk (1744562) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998578)

I thought that you called the Windows users idiots ;)

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (4, Funny)

dskzero (960168) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998952)

Wrong thread, pal, this is for bashing apple fanbois, there is a thread about MS losing money over there.

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (2, Insightful)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 4 years ago | (#31999032)

I would whole heartedly agree with that statement.

I had to clean 30 new "internet security 2010" infections this week... Even though the users have been instructed on how to not get infected....

Honestly, 60% of all computer users are idiots... this is a universal fact.

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (3, Insightful)

e4g4 (533831) | more than 4 years ago | (#31999414)

60% is an extraordinarily optimistic estimate...

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32000464)

If your users are infecting themselves that much, you should probably do two things:

1) Don't allow them to run with admin rights. In a corporate environment they should not be doing that anyway, so take this opportunity to fix it.
2) Institute a "get infected, get re-imaged" policy. You really shouldn't trust a machine on your network that was infested by some of this stuff without a bare metal re-install anyway.

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (-1, Flamebait)

Jorl17 (1716772) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998328)

Because he uses his subjectivity to call those who bought the IPad idiots. I agree with him, it seems ridiculous to me that people just need more and more, when they could perfectly live with less.


Watch as I get flamebaited as well, you'll get what I mean.

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (1, Insightful)

TheKidWho (705796) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998470)

The Luddites are out en-masse today.

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31998162)

Oh that's right. Because Macs don't get Viruses or Malware. That means we have a whole new form of infection here! Hypeware!

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (1)

jedidiah (1196) | more than 4 years ago | (#31999434)

This is a pretty mundane Trojan. If you give the end user a means to run it, they probably will.

This applies equally well to the Mac.

How do you keep a moron with a shotgun from shooting his foot off?

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (0)

Watson Ladd (955755) | more than 4 years ago | (#32000534)

By making it very obvious which end is dangerous. The fact that executables cannot effectively be sandboxed is a major limitation of the Unix based operating system. All the OS does is protect users from each other. We need to move to a model where the user is protected from code he hasn't written.

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31998226)

I love that article, especially the end:

It's estimated that Apple has sold just over a million iPads to date. Since buyers are likely to have a lot of disposable income and not much sense, they make a great target for e-criminals.

There's nothing like targeting Scott Adams' (Dilbert) "stupid / rich" market segment, huh?

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (5, Informative)

alphad0g (1172971) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998298)

I concur. Article is incorrect and Slashdot just regurgitated it. At least the blog post by the original author is correct. A Windows trojan - nothing else.

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998322)

I was already wondering, wasn't the whole ban around unsigned software on i$whatever devices to keep malware from popping up?

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (2, Interesting)

NatasRevol (731260) | more than 4 years ago | (#31999196)

Yep, and it works great.

This infection is a windows virus that runs on the windows machine, then tries to identify information being sent from the windows machine to the iPad, disguised as an iTunes update. It's a classic man-in-the-middle attack.

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (3, Informative)

Wingsy (761354) | more than 4 years ago | (#32000618)

I read the original blog from the original author, and he said, "Backdoor.Bifrose.AADYattempts to read the keys and serial numbers of the various software installed on the affected computer, while also logging the passwords to the victim's ICQ, Messenger, POP3 mail accounts, and protected storage."

Nowhere does it imply that any information being sent from the windows machine to the iPad is being read or intercepted. It's just your typically hosed Windows box.

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31998514)

Call me an idiot if you want. But I am an iPhone/iPod developer. Last year I made over $300K on my apps, and last month I made over $125K on JUST iPad versions of my apps.

If buying an iPad so I can write software for it that I can sell it to other "idiots" makes me an idiot, then I'm being an "idiot" all the way to the bank.

What do you do for a living?

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (1)

initdeep (1073290) | more than 4 years ago | (#32000446)

using the same unsubstantiated "facts" that you do, I made just over 1.1 million last year selling a custom computer software program to a very targeted group of customers who have no other means of doing what my software does short of writing their own.

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (1, Insightful)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998694)

Unfortunately, "Backdoor Malware Targets iPad Users" wouldn't have had the word "Apple" in it, and thus would not be eligible to be a headline on Slashdot.

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (0, Flamebait)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | more than 4 years ago | (#31999082)

What's wrong with the title "Windows Backdoor Malware Targets Apple iPad Users"

Want to know what a real secure OS is? I don't see many OS/2 virii around.

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (1)

BrokenHalo (565198) | more than 4 years ago | (#32000038)

Q: Want to know what a real secure OS is? I don't see many OS/2 virii around.

A: A secure OS is one that is entirely disconnected from any other network. It is also, by the way, not very functional, but maybe no-one will notice that.
OS/2 is 1/2 of an operating system.
The plural of "virus" is "viruses" and NEVER "virii".

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (1)

lorenzo.boccaccia (1263310) | more than 4 years ago | (#32000506)

there were kinda lot of dos virus back in the days

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31998994)

True because only IDIOTS have an ipad and use windows.

I guess the idiot factor is using windows then?

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31999232)

Great market segmentation !!!

Re:Wrong wrong wrong... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32000236)

I like that article especially for the following quote...
"Since buyers are likely to have a lot of disposable income and not much sense, they make a great target for e-criminals."

exactly why... (0)

jisou (1483699) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998136)

having a system that doesn't allow you any access to it is a bad idea. if you don't control the system then who does?

Re:exactly why... (5, Informative)

lord_rotorooter (1482955) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998198)

This does not actually affect the IPad but rather is an attack to get Windows users to install an "update" for ITunes. The "update" is malware for Windows and is targeted at people who own an IPad and sync it with Windows.

Re:exactly why... (0)

jisou (1483699) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998232)

yes but the main target is the i pad. i see this less as a virus and more as a hacking tool.

Re:exactly why... (1, Informative)

TheKidWho (705796) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998336)

The target isn't the iPad, it's the windows box.

Re:exactly why... (2, Insightful)

d3ac0n (715594) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998442)

If you want to get really pedantic, the target isn't even the Windows box. It's the user's information and the profits that can be gleaned either directly or indirectly from aggregating such information from millions of such users.

I'm guessing that the rationale behind this is that people who snap up the iPad are trend-following sheep with more money than sense who are "easy marks" and thus more likely to fall for a "social engineering" attack such as this one.

You guys are grasping at straws now. (1)

Brannon (221550) | more than 4 years ago | (#32000024)

This is a virus that targets Windows and somehow it provides proof that people who buy the iPad are "trend following sheep"?

In what way does this have anything to do with the iPad? the fact that it can be used to receive email?

Fucking morons.

Re:exactly why... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32000554)

The attack vector is through the iPad in the same way a malware payload could be delivered through a Flash exploit.

Re:exactly why... (4, Insightful)

TheKidWho (705796) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998220)

Yes well, this virus is infecting a Windows PC, so much for that.

Re:exactly why... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31999104)

With only about a million sold so far, it's not economically feasible to write viruses/trojans for ipads, yet. There are botnets that have grown larger than 1 million, and when you distribute something like this, you can't count on everyone getting infected. Once they sell 5 times more, I bet we will start seeing a few viruses that actually infect the ipad.

Write misleading headlines much.. (0)

Wovel (964431) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998172)

Yes the headline is true, but it is certainly misleading.

Re:Write misleading headlines much.. (4, Insightful)

richy freeway (623503) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998194)

It's not just the headline, it's the summary and the article too!

Re:Write misleading headlines much.. (0)

Wovel (964431) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998282)

Your right :) I saw the story early somewhere else and did not even bother to read the summary after the headline that implied there is a backdoor into ipads.

Re:Write misleading headlines much.. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31999278)

Back door? Hell, there isn't even a front door into iPads!

Re:Write misleading headlines much.. (0)

Thanshin (1188877) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998392)

It's not just the headline, it's the summary and the article too!

So, for all we know, this could be a story about the impending alien invasion.

Re:Write misleading headlines much.. (4, Informative)

quadelirus (694946) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998536)

Not just the summary. The article itself is misleading (it doesn't once mention that the virus effects Windows PCs and not iPads). This one: http://www.tgdaily.com/mobility-features/49519-nefarious-ipad-virus-masquerades-as-itunes-update [tgdaily.com] is slightly better, as it doesn't fail to mention the fact that Windows PCs are being infected and not iPads. The iPad is only the phishing-hook to get a user to click the link (something like: you need to update your iTunes for your new iPad, click here to do so...)

Re:Write misleading headlines much.. (1)

quadelirus (694946) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998548)

Oh, sorry richy freeway, just saw that you said "and the article." It's too early in the morning.

Re:Write misleading headlines much.. (1)

richy freeway (623503) | more than 4 years ago | (#31999112)

Nicely expanded upon anyway. :)

Re:Write misleading headlines much.. (1)

piripiri (1476949) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998968)

It's not just the headline, it's the summary and the article too!

You must be new here.

Re:Write misleading headlines much.. (5, Insightful)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998244)

Reminds me of that line from "Absence of Malice" that "everything they said was accurate but none of it was true".

Re:Write misleading headlines much.. (0)

someone1234 (830754) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998266)

How is it true, when the malware doesn't ever touch iPad, and works without an iPad.

Re:Write misleading headlines much.. (0)

Wovel (964431) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998338)

Well it kind of targets iPad users on Windows. I was being generous :)

Re:Write misleading headlines much.. (2, Informative)

shadowrat (1069614) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998462)

the con targets iPad users. the software targets windows.

Re:Write misleading headlines much.. (1, Funny)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998428)

It targets the iPad, it's just a really bad shot and always ends up hitting the Windows box...

I don't own an iPod/iPhone/iPad, please help (1)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998188)

Is it common for software to announce updates via email? Given that the device would presumably have a net connection, any legit updates ought to be pushed out through the iTunes store.

Not quite..... (1)

quiet_guy (681438) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998200)

Great quote from the UK article: "Since buyers are likely to have a lot of disposable income and not much sense...." TFA is wrong - malware is aimed at the Winbloz boxen, by offering a download of a "new iTunes" program. Macs and iPads are not impacted.

Re:Not quite..... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31999406)

Winbloz, eh? Let me try this too:

The malware is aimed at Crapple ipoop users also using Windows OS.

Like it now?

Clarification... (3, Informative)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998222)

An e-mail, purporting to be from Apple, informs people that their iPad needs to be updated. Steps given for updating your iPad:

1) Download an iTunes update for Windows (itunes.exe) and install;
2) Connect your iPad to the Windows computer;
3) Select iPad in the iTunes sidebar;
4) Click “Check for update” then “Update” to finish updating your iPad’s software.

Note that there’s no legitimate reason that you’d ever need to connect the iPad to a second computer to update it. It has its own internet connection.

Needless to say, your Windows computer will be infected with the virus if you execute the itunes.exe that you were instructed to download and install. It appears that your iPad will be none the worse for having an idiot for an owner.

Updates *are* done over USB (4, Informative)

danaris (525051) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998294)

Note that there’s no legitimate reason that you’d ever need to connect the iPad to a second computer to update it. It has its own internet connection.

Now, I don't have an iPad, so I don't know how they're updated, but the iPhone and iPod touch, which also have their own internet connections, get software updates through iTunes, over USB.

This is how it's always been done.

Dan Aris

Re:Updates *are* done over USB (0)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998430)

Odd. Well, thanks for the correction.

Any idea why it’s done this way? The iPod Touch I could understand since it doesn’t necessarily have an internet connection, but the iPhone has its own dedicated connection...

Re:Updates *are* done over USB (2, Informative)

tgd (2822) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998464)

Why is simple -- it replaces the firmware, by booting the phone into a mode where the firmware can be updated via USB (and the OS isn't running).

You can't easily upgrade an OS out from under itself.

Re:Updates *are* done over USB (1)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998554)

You can't easily upgrade an OS out from under itself.

The standalone version of OSX manages it. I don’t see why the dumbed-down version on the iPad can’t.

Re:Updates *are* done over USB (1)

danaris (525051) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998754)

You can't easily upgrade an OS out from under itself.

The standalone version of OSX manages it. I don’t see why the dumbed-down version on the iPad can’t.

I don't know if there are specific technical reasons for it, but it seems to me that since

  1. You already know that the person with an iPad has another computer, and
  2. You know they have iTunes (since it's required for setting it up in the first place),
  3. It makes it easier to update the firmware/OS when you have that as your backup rather than having to bootstrap yourself.

Dan Aris

Re:Updates *are* done over USB (1)

BarryJacobsen (526926) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998826)

You can't easily upgrade an OS out from under itself.

The standalone version of OSX manages it. I don’t see why the dumbed-down version on the iPad can’t.

Because standalone versions of OS X aren't running from firmware.

MacBook Air (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#31999572)

Mac OS X on a MacBook Air is running from flash memory, just like iPhone OS on an iPad. What exactly did you mean by "running from firmware"?

Re:Updates *are* done over USB (1)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 4 years ago | (#32000872)

Clone likes libelling others on slashdot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32001080)

"But basically, I support the law http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1629374&cid=31995628 [slashdot.org] " - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday April 27, @02:40AM (#31995628)

I see your comment quoted above there Clone, as well as you signature Clone in your attempt to libel others here on slashdot. So, isn't Jeremy Reimer the guy who had parts of his website removed for libelling APK by his hosting provider and Reimer was caught email harassing APK by his ISP, Shaw of Canada, when Shaw put Reimer on a tracking ticket for it (which Reimer promptly ceased his email harassment of APK once he was aware of that happening), and arstechnica strangely no longer puts up articles by the blatantly unqualified Jeremy Reimer?

Jeremy Reimer and his friends Jay Little also had their websites removed entirely from CrystalTech.com and from petitiononline.com also, because of their making death threats to APK just because APK showed that Exchange Server stalls due to memory fragmentation are stopped when a memory optimization program is used (microsoft's own called clearmem.exe) after Jay Little, whom Jeremy Reimer brought in because Reimer doesn't even have a degree in CSC or CIS related fields (not even an A+ cert, much less an MCSE or the like to his credit, much less actual degrees) or years to decades of professional hands-on experience in the trenches doing computer work, failed in stating verbatim "I am an Exchange Expert" and when Jay Little saw what APK put up, he tried to harass APK by nitpicking his posts at NTCompatible.com also, where Little stalked APK there and failed on issues regarding ramdisks/ssd and also Windows own error codes/crash codes which got Jay Little kicked from NTCompatible.com as it did on Channel 9 at Microsoft also? Seems that was what happened at Windows IT Pro here http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/41095/the-memory-optimization-hoax.html [windowsitpro.com] which anyone can read.

So much for your libelling others Clone. You can't even get that right and you certainly like lies and libel, which are against the law in the USA and in other nations also.

Clone, I also note that you also called APK, the person you refer to in your signature here, a "spyware maker" http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31736454 [slashdot.org] , but he noted that Nir Sofer and Dr. Mark Russinovich have also had many of their wares classified falsely as spywares too, and that he took CA's 21 point test and his app did not violate a single point of their test and they downrated his app to "zero threat levels" because of this. APK also put up the very first guide to securing Windows back in 1998 which was highly rated at Neowin in 2001 and grew into the most viewed and most effective guide for securing Windows NT Operating Systems out there currently at 350,000 views strong and being made a sticky pinned thread, an essential guide, or being the most viewed and being usually rated 5 of 5 stars by readers of his security guide for Windows such as here http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=f94b12f3d43b3b9446bed90155910842&showtopic=2662 [tcmagazine.com] . At 350,000 views strong and with great feedback too, your calling him that shows you do anything but support the law, and regularly break it with libel on your part towards others clone.

Clone, You are a scumbag libelling little weasel clone, and now everyone will know how much so, after reading this reply. Just because you're a loser that doesn't have a job and because you've never done a thing in your life that's of service to others, doesn't give you the right to libel others who have, clone.

Poor Clone lost another debate & libels the wi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32001124)

See subject above, and see how Clone tried to libel others here on this website via his signature and was proven wrong here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1632188&cid=31999288 [slashdot.org] .

Clone53421 is nothing more than a little out of work bum who can't get a job because he wastes his life on slashdot here libelling others (which is why he won't get a job, because his kind do this rampantly, and this is why suits against them are not worth it - nothing to be had in suing a "ne'er do well" like Clone53421 is why).

Why is Clone libelling apk? Ok:

----

Mozilla Firefox DOM Node Moving Use-After-Free Vulnerability:

http://secunia.com/advisories/39175/ [secunia.com]

Release Date 2010-04-02
Last Update 2010-04-06

----

Clone lost his behind in a debate with apk on FireFox http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/23/0415208/Germany-Warns-Against-Using-Firefox [slashdot.org] (when Germany warned vs. its usage, as they had for IE previous to that) here, regarding FireFox 3.6, which then forced a reissue of FireFox 3.6.2 (not 2.6.2 as Clone erroneously noted it there as also), but during the timeframe of that debate (03/23/2010 - 04/05/2010)?

LOL: FireFox turned up YET ANOTHER SECURITY BUG in their DOM during that debate's timeframe (see between dashed lines above), which forced an issuance of FireFox 3.6.3 on 04/06/2010!

Also, when that news of a NEW FIREFOX BUG came out?

Well - Slashdot's moderators "strangely closed that thread on Germany early" (NOT) in less than 2 weeks...

This libel of apk only showed Clone's poor defense of FireFox (inclusive of citing very old 3-5 versions out of date data on Opera bugs no less, version 9.52 & 10.52 just released today no less in final form) as erroneous, and that Clone is a sore loser.

Clone, face it: Opera's FASTER than FireFox in HTML parse & process work, plus javascript work too, and Opera shows less bugs over time than FireFox does, consistently no less... whether or not you can handle that or not, doesn't matter - you LOSE, as per usual.

All the libelling of others online will not help you, once people see how you react in your "geek angst" when you lose poorly due to bogus libelling of others on this website, which makes you appear in your true nature of being a libellous online scumbag weasel.

Clone likes libelling others online at slashdot? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31999266)

"But basically, I support the law http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1629374&cid=31995628 [slashdot.org] " - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday April 27, @02:40AM (#31995628)

I see your comment quoted above there Clone, as well as you signature Clone in your attempt to libel others here on slashdot. So, isn't Jeremy Reimer the guy who had parts of his website removed for libelling APK by his hosting provider and Reimer was caught email harassing APK by his ISP, Shaw of Canada, when Shaw put Reimer on a tracking ticket for it (which Reimer promptly ceased his email harassment of APK once he was aware of that happening), and arstechnica strangely no longer puts up articles by the blatantly unqualified Jeremy Reimer?

Jeremy Reimer and his friends Jay Little also had their websites removed entirely from CrystalTech.com and from petitiononline.com also, because of their making death threats to APK just because APK showed that Exchange Server stalls due to memory fragmentation are stopped when a memory optimization program is used (microsoft's own called clearmem.exe) after Jay Little, whom Jeremy Reimer brought in because Reimer doesn't even have a degree in CSC or CIS related fields (not even an A+ cert, much less an MCSE or the like to his credit, much less actual degrees) or years to decades of professional hands-on experience in the trenches doing computer work, failed in stating verbatim "I am an Exchange Expert" and when Jay Little saw what APK put up, he tried to harass APK by nitpicking his posts at NTCompatible.com also, where Little stalked APK there and failed on issues regarding ramdisks/ssd and also Windows own error codes/crash codes which got Jay Little kicked from NTCompatible.com as it did on Channel 9 at Microsoft also? Seems that was what happened at Windows IT Pro here http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/41095/the-memory-optimization-hoax.html [windowsitpro.com] which anyone can read.

So much for your libelling others Clone. You can't even get that right and you certainly like lies and libel, which are against the law in the USA and in other nations also.

Clone, I also note that you also called APK, the person you refer to in your signature here, a "spyware maker" http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31736454 [slashdot.org] , but he noted that Nir Sofer and Dr. Mark Russinovich have also had many of their wares classified falsely as spywares too, and that he took CA's 21 point test and his app did not violate a single point of their test and they downrated his app to "zero threat levels" because of this. APK also put up the very first guide to securing Windows back in 1998 which was highly rated at Neowin in 2001 and grew into the most viewed and most effective guide for securing Windows NT Operating Systems out there currently at 350,000 views strong and being made a sticky pinned thread, an essential guide, or being the most viewed and being usually rated 5 of 5 stars by readers of his security guide for Windows such as here http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=f94b12f3d43b3b9446bed90155910842&showtopic=2662 [tcmagazine.com] . At 350,000 views strong and with great feedback too, your calling him that shows you do anything but support the law, and regularly break it with libel on your part towards others clone.

Clone, You are a scumbag libelling little weasel clone, and now everyone will know how much so, after reading this reply. Just because you're a loser that doesn't have a job and because you've never done a thing in your life that's of service to others, doesn't give you the right to libel others who have, clone.

Re:Clone likes libelling others online at slashdot (1)

crashumbc (1221174) | more than 4 years ago | (#32000856)

wth? AC nerd rage much? you felt the need to drag another thread into this one?

Re:Updates *are* done over USB (1)

Idaho (12907) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998606)

You can't easily upgrade an OS out from under itself.

Uhm, what? Linux distributions do this all the time.

(However, they are not usually installed in firmware, I'll admit).

Re:Updates *are* done over USB (1)

E IS mC(Square) (721736) | more than 4 years ago | (#31999416)

>> You can't easily upgrade an OS out from under itself.

WTF? Then OTA updates for Android and RIM must be some ground-breaking innovations!!

Re:Updates *are* done over USB (1)

tgd (2822) | more than 4 years ago | (#31999580)

I'm sure you can spend five minutes on Google to educate yourself on the difference ...

Re:Updates *are* done over USB (2, Informative)

Brandee07 (964634) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998608)

A few points:

-AT&T doesn't like downloads over their network larger than 10MB in size. If you buy an app larger than that, it'll tell you to find a WiFi connection and try again. Some of the previous iPhone software updates have been a few hundred megabytes - try downloading that over 3G in a reasonable amount of time.

-Plugging in to a computer before updating the software forces the user to make a backup. The otherwise stand-alone nature of the iPhone makes it rare for me to plug my phone in to my computer, so updates are just about the only time I actually do back up my phone.

Re:Updates *are* done over USB (1)

Me! Me! 42 (1153289) | more than 4 years ago | (#31999182)

"The iPod Touch I could understand since it doesn’t necessarily have an internet connection, but the iPhone has its own dedicated connection..."
Actually both the iPad and iPodtouch have Wifi (and Bluetooth) I assume that is what you mean by"internet connection." The 3G version of the iPad will not be shipping for another week or so.
As far as why?
In normal use, when docked, theses devices have access to iTunes for syncing content, metadata, etc., and they can recharge their batteries. That goes for an update too, but in addition its easier if the OS does not have to run and there is the extra security of a direct power supply—no running out of power in the middle of the update.

Clone, correct your libel of others also (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31999240)

"But basically, I support the law http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1629374&cid=31995628 [slashdot.org] " - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday April 27, @02:40AM (#31995628)

I see your comment quoted above there Clone, as well as you signature Clone in your attempt to libel others here on slashdot. So, isn't Jeremy Reimer the guy who had parts of his website removed for libelling APK by his hosting provider and Reimer was caught email harassing APK by his ISP, Shaw of Canada, when Shaw put Reimer on a tracking ticket for it (which Reimer promptly ceased his email harassment of APK once he was aware of that happening), and arstechnica strangely no longer puts up articles by the blatantly unqualified Jeremy Reimer?

Jeremy Reimer and his friends Jay Little also had their websites removed entirely from CrystalTech.com and from petitiononline.com also, because of their making death threats to APK just because APK showed that Exchange Server stalls due to memory fragmentation are stopped when a memory optimization program is used (microsoft's own called clearmem.exe) after Jay Little, whom Jeremy Reimer brought in because Reimer doesn't even have a degree in CSC or CIS related fields (not even an A+ cert, much less an MCSE or the like to his credit, much less actual degrees) or years to decades of professional hands-on experience in the trenches doing computer work, failed in stating verbatim "I am an Exchange Expert" and when Jay Little saw what APK put up, he tried to harass APK by nitpicking his posts at NTCompatible.com also, where Little stalked APK there and failed on issues regarding ramdisks/ssd and also Windows own error codes/crash codes which got Jay Little kicked from NTCompatible.com as it did on Channel 9 at Microsoft also? Seems that was what happened at Windows IT Pro here http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/41095/the-memory-optimization-hoax.html [windowsitpro.com] which anyone can read.

So much for your libelling others Clone. You can't even get that right and you certainly like lies and libel, which are against the law in the USA and in other nations also.

Clone, I also note that you also called APK, the person you refer to in your signature here, a "spyware maker" http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31736454 [slashdot.org] , but he noted that Nir Sofer and Dr. Mark Russinovich have also had many of their wares classified falsely as spywares too, and that he took CA's 21 point test and his app did not violate a single point of their test and they downrated his app to "zero threat levels" because of this. APK also put up the very first guide to securing Windows back in 1998 which was highly rated at Neowin in 2001 and grew into the most viewed and most effective guide for securing Windows NT Operating Systems out there currently at 350,000 views strong and being made a sticky pinned thread, an essential guide, or being the most viewed and being usually rated 5 of 5 stars by readers of his security guide for Windows such as here http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=f94b12f3d43b3b9446bed90155910842&showtopic=2662 [tcmagazine.com] . At 350,000 views strong and with great feedback too, your calling him that shows you do anything but support the law, and regularly break it with libel on your part towards others clone.

Clone, You are a scumbag libelling little weasel clone, and now everyone will know how much so, after reading this reply. Just because you're a loser that doesn't have a job and because you've never done a thing in your life that's of service to others, doesn't give you the right to libel others who have, clone.

Re:Updates *are* done over USB (0)

joshtimmons (241649) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998542)

Actually, all of the devices in the platform do allow app upgrades over their own connection. You *can* use iTunes and USB, but apps 10MB or you don't have carrier data you can upgrade them over wifi. The app store icon will even notify you when there are upgrades available.

The OS is not an app. (1)

danaris (525051) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998726)

Actually, all of the devices in the platform do allow app upgrades over their own connection. You *can* use iTunes and USB, but apps 10MB or you don't have carrier data you can upgrade them over wifi. The app store icon will even notify you when there are upgrades available.

Yes, for apps. Not for the OS itself, which is what was being talked about.

Dan Aris

Re:Updates *are* done over USB (-1, Flamebait)

evilbessie (873633) | more than 4 years ago | (#31999918)

Ah but these are people who have shown they can't think for themselves (they bought Apple, so they clearly don't like freedom or free will), so kudos to the malware writers for seeing this possible attack vector. And an email saying click here for iPad/iTunes update is 'simpler' than opening iTunes and finding the bit which checks for update. And Apple always use the easiest method right?

Clone likes libelling others online at slashdot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31999178)

"But basically, I support the law http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1629374&cid=31995628 [slashdot.org] " - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday April 27, @02:40AM (#31995628)

I see your comment quoted above there Clone, as well as you signature Clone in your attempt to libel others here on slashdot. So, isn't Jeremy Reimer the guy who had parts of his website removed for libelling APK by his hosting provider and Reimer was caught email harassing APK by his ISP, Shaw of Canada, when Shaw put Reimer on a tracking ticket for it (which Reimer promptly ceased his email harassment of APK once he was aware of that happening), and arstechnica strangely no longer puts up articles by the blatantly unqualified Jeremy Reimer?

Jeremy Reimer and his friends Jay Little also had their websites removed entirely from CrystalTech.com and from petitiononline.com also, because of their making death threats to APK just because APK showed that Exchange Server stalls due to memory fragmentation are stopped when a memory optimization program is used (microsoft's own called clearmem.exe) after Jay Little, whom Jeremy Reimer brought in because Reimer doesn't even have a degree in CSC or CIS related fields (not even an A+ cert, much less an MCSE or the like to his credit, much less actual degrees) or years to decades of professional hands-on experience in the trenches doing computer work, failed in stating verbatim "I am an Exchange Expert" and when Jay Little saw what APK put up, he tried to harass APK by nitpicking his posts at NTCompatible.com also, where Little stalked APK there and failed on issues regarding ramdisks/ssd and also Windows own error codes/crash codes which got Jay Little kicked from NTCompatible.com as it did on Channel 9 at Microsoft also? Seems that was what happened at Windows IT Pro here http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/41095/the-memory-optimization-hoax.html [windowsitpro.com] which anyone can read.

So much for your libelling others Clone. You can't even get that right and you certainly like lies and libel, which are against the law in the USA and in other nations also.

Clone, I also note that you also called APK, the person you refer to in your signature here, a "spyware maker" http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31736454 [slashdot.org] , but he noted that Nir Sofer and Dr. Mark Russinovich have also had many of their wares classified falsely as spywares too, and that he took CA's 21 point test and his app did not violate a single point of their test and they downrated his app to "zero threat levels" because of this. APK also put up the very first guide to securing Windows back in 1998 which was highly rated at Neowin in 2001 and grew into the most viewed and most effective guide for securing Windows NT Operating Systems out there currently at 350,000 views strong and being made a sticky pinned thread, an essential guide, or being the most viewed and being usually rated 5 of 5 stars by readers of his security guide for Windows such as here http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=f94b12f3d43b3b9446bed90155910842&showtopic=2662 [tcmagazine.com] . At 350,000 views strong and with great feedback too, your calling him that shows you do anything but support the law, and regularly break it with libel on your part towards others clone.

Clone, You are a scumbag libelling little weasel clone, and now everyone will know how much so, after reading this reply. Just because you're a loser that doesn't have a job and because you've never done a thing in your life that's of service to others, doesn't give you the right to libel others who have, clone.

no reason to need a second computer? (1)

SuperBanana (662181) | more than 4 years ago | (#31999606)

Note that there's no legitimate reason that you'd ever need to connect the iPad to a second computer to update it. It has its own internet connection.

Er, just like my iPhone? Which requires being connected to a second computer to update it?

Disappointed in /. (4, Funny)

RemoWilliams84 (1348761) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998292)

I'm disappointed that there have been no Apple User/Backdoor jokes in this story yet. I'll check back in an hour. Don't kill my faith in /.

Re:Disappointed in /. (1, Troll)

courteaudotbiz (1191083) | more than 4 years ago | (#31998574)

As this kind of jokes about Apple users is getting moderated "troll", "overrated" or "flamebait" by all those Apple-Fanboy-Slashdotters, no one is willing to get his karma downgraded for something that's not worth talking about: Apple.

Re:Disappointed in /. (1)

stifler9999 (1184283) | more than 4 years ago | (#31999068)

Now I know why my post of a Mac Book user, using it as an iPad stand got ignored. (http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/ipadstandfail.jpg) I dont care about karma, its my choice to say and theirs to ignore. The iPad is still a stupid product that fits right into the market of "generally useless and totally unnecessary", especially the 3G version. *imagines someone holding iPad to their ear, talking to their mum - "yes mum, I'll vacuum my room (basement) tonight, gotta go my HD Hot Gurlz app has just finished downloading...."

Re:Disappointed in /. (1)

gyrogeerloose (849181) | more than 4 years ago | (#31999826)

no one is willing to get his karma downgraded for something that's not worth talking about: Apple.

Not worth talking about and yet, here you are reading an Apple thread and taking the time to comment on it.

Re:Disappointed in /. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31998592)

Apple users like it up the butt; they love the buttsecks.

Happy now?

Re:Disappointed in /. (2, Funny)

iceborer (684929) | more than 4 years ago | (#31999110)

This scheme has no chance of success. No self-respecting Apple user would allow anything in their backdoor that didn't come dressed in a turtleneck and jeans.

Re:Disappointed in /. (1)

RemoWilliams84 (1348761) | more than 4 years ago | (#32000100)

Thank you, sir. I applaud your efforts and admire your wit.

Its a good thing I don't have an iPad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31998710)

But, I do have a jailbroken iPhone. I guess there is a vulnerability with having a jailbroken device too. Basically, I'm trusting the developers who made this "patch" to be applied to my iPhone OS. They could have put *anything* in there: a backdoor, logging and transmitting my passwords, etc. Any time you modify your device with non-authentic software (non-Apple), you are taking a risk. And WHY would somebody trust a web-browser pop-up about upgrading their iTunes??? Only if you open iTunes and it says there's a new version available should you download it! hmmmmmm

inform4tive h[omohomo (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31998746)

Apple too. No, future. The 4and Raymond in his If you have are Just way over I know it sux0rs, up my toys. I'm

Yes but... (0, Offtopic)

vikingpower (768921) | more than 4 years ago | (#31999234)

...does it blend ?

Wow. (1)

deafNewt (1003036) | more than 4 years ago | (#31999988)

I enjoy skulking here because the community is damn witty and I am often entertained and informed by what I read, but the editing of stories for any basis in fact has gone from inept to transparent troll-baiting and flame-generating. We all know some of the editors are idiots, but, come on Taco, I know you can do better.

How about a jailbreak virus (1)

Stonent1 (594886) | more than 4 years ago | (#32000270)

What if someone wrote a virus that automatically jailbroke any apple device connected to iTunes and installed an alternate way of putting apps on the device?

backdoor? (1)

ZenDragon (1205104) | more than 4 years ago | (#32000280)

The title of the article should read, "iPad owners take it in the backdoor!" haha

Virus? (1)

CODiNE (27417) | more than 4 years ago | (#32000304)

You have to download the trojan named itunes.exe and run it.

This is a "virus" now? What do you call stuff that spreads itself without user intervention... trojans?

How about autorun infections from USB keys... phishing?

I smell a rotten apple (0, Troll)

FearKratos (1794192) | more than 4 years ago | (#32000526)

I guess its time to change that dirty pad. It was only a matter of time before someone tried to hack/infect the ipad on a grand scale, I'd like to see how Steve Jobs counters this....Introducing the iVagisil.

Patch Name (1)

lbmouse (473316) | more than 4 years ago | (#32000706)

I propose the name of the patch to cover this hole be named tamPod.

Oops (1)

nawcom (941663) | more than 4 years ago | (#32000840)

Either kdawson didn't feel like logging in to post this article as himself, or CmdrTaco isn't looking into stories. Too bad.

Hey Rob (1)

Fnord666 (889225) | more than 4 years ago | (#32000994)

You left your terminal logged in and kdawson has been posting stories under your ID again.
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