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Activision Hit With $500m Suit From Modern Warfare 2 Devs

Soulskill posted more than 4 years ago | from the pow-right-in-the-kisser dept.

The Almighty Buck 77

Dragoniz3r writes "Activision has been served a lawsuit from 38 plaintiffs, including present and former Infinity Ward employees, demanding up to half a billion dollars. The plaintiffs are seeking compensation for 'unpaid bonuses, royalties, profit-sharing, and future profits from games such as Modern Warfare 3, and punitive damages.'"

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Go plaintiffs! (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32009976)

I hope the plaintiffs win, and get every stinkin penny.

Re:Go plaintiffs! (1)

DumbparameciuM (772788) | more than 4 years ago | (#32010412)

I agree! Stick it to 'em, Dev Monkeys. You're worth double what you want.

Re:Go plaintiffs! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32010614)

1b in sales
---
- 500m to Activision
- 1/3 to lawyers
- 1/2 to taxes
/ 38 plaintiffs
* 2 = 8.77m to each person that did the work.. sounds fair to me.

Re:Go plaintiffs! (3, Insightful)

hesaigo999ca (786966) | more than 4 years ago | (#32012704)

I agree, as too many times I have seen and experienced first hand the sadness of having worked extra hours unpaid as
the management tells me they can't afford to, and then when deadlines are met and sales are made, the management gives themselves all big bonuses....and sip on their crystal champagne, and laugh at how stupid we (the progs) all were to give up those hours for their bonuses.

Brain Drain (5, Interesting)

jarrettwold2002 (601633) | more than 4 years ago | (#32009980)

Honestly, for Activision the lawsuit is worrying. However, what would be far more worrying is the fact that they're apparently lost 26 people from the MW dev team and they're losing more frequently.

"That brings us to a staggering 26 employees in total to have left Infinity Ward since the drama began, a tally which constitutes the bulk of the studio's creative and programming "brains trust"."

http://kotaku.com/5525152/eight-more-leave-modern-warfare-developers-bringing-total-to-26 [kotaku.com]

Re:Brain Drain (4, Funny)

beakerMeep (716990) | more than 4 years ago | (#32010202)

So 12 of the people suing them are still working there?

Awkward...

Re:Brain Drain (4, Funny)

jarrettwold2002 (601633) | more than 4 years ago | (#32010438)

Activision Boss: "Oh hey Tom, so uh... how's the weather?"
Infinity Ward - Tom: "Sorry, under the advice of my attorney I cannot answer this question in any way other than "it may or may not be nice".

Re:Brain Drain (1)

noidentity (188756) | more than 4 years ago | (#32018310)

I think you mean

Tom: "Sorry, under the advice of my attorney I cannot answer this question in any way other than 'Sorry, under the advice of my attorney I cannot answer this question in any way other than "it may or may not be nice"'".

Re:Brain Drain (2, Interesting)

hesaigo999ca (786966) | more than 4 years ago | (#32012738)

No, insider info, and they can't be forced out, very sneaky way of always being kep in the loop so to speak.
Insider> (makes eyes at receptionist) Hi Janet, you look lovely today, as always...
Receptionist> Thanks Frank, i got some new nail polish....looks great
Insider>Yeah, that will be great for your board meeting later and impress Jim with....(smiles)
Receptionist>No Jim wont be there to see it , hes busy trying to find a lawyer to counter sue and put some
                                        of these ex employees in their place....hes thinking of.....

you get the picture.

Re:Brain Drain (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32010258)

This does sort of kill any credibility for Activision's claims. They alleged the fired individuals had gone from being model employees to seditious saboteurs, poisoning the dev team and conspiring to quit.

What's far more likely is that Activision treated their devs like crap (surprise surprise) and for most of them, having the heads of IW fired was the final straw. This is further reinforced by the fact that Activision (allegedly) owes them back wages and royalties, something they are obligated by both law and good commercial practice to pay promptly. A large, faceless corporate treating its talent like so many expendable resources to be drained and tossed aside? Shocking...

Re:Brain Drain (2, Interesting)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 4 years ago | (#32010386)

They only fired West and Zampella (the rest quit on their own volition) and overall IW doesn't exactly seem like a bunch of model employees, more like a bunch of assholes that weren't being punished because of their contribution to the bottom line (some of the IW guys publicly insulted Activision guys on their forums).

Also Activisiopn alleged that W&Z were in talks with EA over defecting and what do you know? A few days after getting fired they get hired by EA. Sure, that's not evidence but it's pretty suspicious anyway and the investigations might dig up some dirt that shows Activision had a reason to act like it did.

Re:Brain Drain (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32011582)

They only fired West and Zampella (the rest quit on their own volition)

What have Volition [volition-inc.com] got to do with it?

Re:Brain Drain (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32011938)

Nothing at all.

Re:Brain Drain (2, Interesting)

alvinrod (889928) | more than 4 years ago | (#32010572)

Not to take the side of Activision (I despise them personally.) on this issue, but I could file a lawsuit against them tomorrow for twice as much money for any claims that I could care to come up with. Just because someone files a lawsuit doesn't always mean that it's reasonable or anywhere near an indication of the truth.

My personal belief is that Activision fucked the IW developers out of money owed to them, but I don't know the full story and this could just as easily be a publicity ploy from the former IW employees. I honestly hope that if nothing else they get some of their CoD IP back, if for no other reason than Activision are a bunch of undeserving, money-grubbing pricks; of course that's hardly any basis for a legal opinion and I don't possess an intimate knowledge of the contracts that were signed between the two parties or the local, state, or federal laws which may be applicable in this case.

So while it's certainly popular to jump on Activision (May they burn in hell.) at the moment, it's possible that they're not guilty of anything (Aside from being first class douches.) under the law or that this lawsuit has any merit at all.

Re:Brain Drain (1)

DMalic (1118167) | more than 4 years ago | (#32011764)

They all just randomly decided to quit in a down economy and forgo bonus money + the bonus money owed the two lead devs? Yes, every dev that quits, the bonuses for the remaining ones pile higher. And they're still leaving. Granted, they might believe that Activision are too rotten to pay anyone at this point, but if that's the argument you're relying on..

Re:Brain Drain (2, Insightful)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 4 years ago | (#32017004)

Yes, every dev that quits, the bonuses for the execs and upper management pile higher.

FTFY.

Re:Brain Drain (1)

DMalic (1118167) | more than 4 years ago | (#32021204)

Activision claimed that the bonus pool for Infinity Ward will remain the same and whoever stays will get more money. Not saying it will happen.

Re:Brain Drain (5, Interesting)

increment1 (1722312) | more than 4 years ago | (#32011954)

What's far more likely is that Activision treated their devs like crap (surprise surprise) and for most of them, having the heads of IW fired was the final straw.

This is ironic because Activision (the original Activision) was founded expressly to treat developers better. To quote from Wikipedia:

"Before the formation of Activision, software for video game consoles were published exclusively by makers of the systems for which the games were designed. For example, Atari was the only publisher of games for the Atari 2600. This was particularly galling to the developers of the games, as they received no financial rewards for games that sold well, and did not receive credit for their games. This caused several programmers to resign from their jobs. Activision became the first third-party game publisher for game consoles."

Re:Brain Drain (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32012070)

That was before Bobby Kotick bought the company name and sacked everyone there from the original Activision.

Re:Brain Drain (1)

oh-dark-thirty (1648133) | more than 4 years ago | (#32013556)

Isn't the cake always a lie?

Re:Brain Drain (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32015298)

Don't believe everything you read on teh wikipedia

Re:Brain Drain (4, Funny)

T Murphy (1054674) | more than 4 years ago | (#32010802)

...So replace those lost programmers with liberal arts majors and start an offshoot "Post-Modern Warfare" series.

Re:Brain Drain (-1, Redundant)

sopssa (1498795) | more than 4 years ago | (#32010836)

They don't even need to start any offshoot series, Activision owns Call of Duty and Modern Warfare series.

Re:Brain Drain (1)

Zedrick (764028) | more than 4 years ago | (#32010922)

which constitutes the bulk of the studio's creative and programming....

Hah. Activision hasn't done anything creative since Fighter Bomber was released in 1990. It was good and quite original despite being a flight sim. After that, boring copies of copies. (yes, I know that a lot of people think CIV II is the best game ever. I think it's slimy.)

There's plenty of other companies left who can remake all those same old games we've seen over and over and over again. Sigh. Everything was better in the old days. Time to boot up my Amiga 4000, which has more great and original games than the PC will ever have (since nobody is doing anything new anymore (on the PC/windows at least)).

Re:Brain Drain (1)

NoSleepDemon (1521253) | more than 4 years ago | (#32012830)

Nostalgia and dated (xb360) or confusing (ps3) console hardware holding back PC Gaming (Crysis is still the most graphically advanced game on the market) aside, there are some seriously inspired games out there for the PC. There's no need to dig out your pocket calculator to play 'let's write words on the screen in numbers' just yet. Athough I would concede the point that they're all rather too forgiving. Perhaps Star Control III will save us all?

Re:Brain Drain (1)

Logiksan (947439) | more than 4 years ago | (#32022034)

Athough I would concede the point that they're all rather too forgiving.

Spelunky [spelunkyworld.com] would like to clear something up regarding this statement.

Re:Brain Drain (1)

NoSleepDemon (1521253) | more than 4 years ago | (#32028410)

I should have clarified, my comment was targeted more at AAA titles and player's expectations to be pampered instead of challenged.

Focusing on the FPS genre, games tend to have adopted the checkpoint system every 50 metres (Dead Space, Mass Effect 2) which rarely leads to any genuinely difficult encounters. Compare this to the original AvP which only allowed you to save a couple of times per mission... Combined with sometimes random encounters with foes, that was a scary game to play as a Marine.

Re:Brain Drain (1)

wisnoskij (1206448) | more than 4 years ago | (#32014942)

I would say all of those people leaving really makes it sound like it was Activision that was mostly to blame for all this.
Well they lost their biggest money making team of developers, hopefully they will treat their employees better in the future.

But I am happy that such a good team of developers are now working for hopefully less evil companies/company.

Re:Brain Drain (1)

drsquare (530038) | more than 4 years ago | (#32016626)

Honestly, for Activision the lawsuit is worrying. However, what would be far more worrying is the fact that they're apparently lost 26 people from the MW dev team and they're losing more frequently.

Not really, MW is a franchise at the stage where it just needs a skeleton team to keep churning out sequels that will sell on name alone.

MW3 money? (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 4 years ago | (#32009988)

Wait, I thought the whole insubordination deal came about because IW didn't want to make MW3? Sounds like they want to have their cake (not make MW3) and eat it too (get the money for it).

Re:MW3 money? (3, Informative)

Riddler Sensei (979333) | more than 4 years ago | (#32010076)

The money they're asking for is compensation they were promised for Modern Warfare 2 and never received, not for the MW3 game they don't even want to make.

Re:MW3 money? (5, Interesting)

Lance Dearnis (1184983) | more than 4 years ago | (#32010114)

Their contract specifies (Unsurprisingly) that they have some rights to the Modern Warfare series as a whole. Go back and look at the old papers - the first lawsuit - to see that contract. In other words: What they want, I would expect, is that Activision doesn't get to make more Modern Warfare at all. It's not like Activision came up with it, they're firing the people who did. They might not be able legally to take the Modern Warfare name with them, but if they can't, they'll take the money from it at least. Either way, Activision's actions here are pretty patently and obviously illegal. IANAL, but the California Legal Code in terms of 'you must pay people all owed money within 72 hours of their departure' doesn't require one to interpret. The other stuff may be up in the air, but Activision's definitely ripping them off here.

employment contract (1)

YesIAmAScript (886271) | more than 4 years ago | (#32010962)

The contract you refer to was an employment contract, it refers to the responsibilities that the employees would have to fulfill to get paid, which is working on CoD4 and later MWs. It doesn't give them any rights to the series, those belong to Infinity Ward, and Infinity Ward is a wholly owned subsidiary of Activision, which means those belong to Activision.

I don't know about money owed, if Activision owes these people money for what they did, they should pay up. It is unlikely Activision owes these people anything for MW3 though, even if they claim so.

Remember, if you come up with something in the employ of a company, it belongs to them. MW belongs to Infinity Ward and Infinity Ward belongs to Activision.

Re:employment contract (3, Informative)

nosferatu1001 (264446) | more than 4 years ago | (#32011866)

WHen IW was bought IW retained the rights to the CoD name and future titles.

Re:employment contract (1)

kkwst2 (992504) | more than 4 years ago | (#32013328)

But isn't this just a technicality. That only helps if Activision tries to sell off IW. But it still doesn't help the people who don't work for IW anymore. They (former IW staff) still wouldn't own any IP, right?

I'm sure they all made a lot of money from the original deal. When you make a deal with the devil...

Not sure they've learned their lesson, as now they're making deals with probably a worse devil (EA). Guess you need funding from somewhere. They better hope they get good lawyers to draw up their agreement.

Re:MW3 money? (3, Informative)

Plekto (1018050) | more than 4 years ago | (#32011228)

The tricky part here, though, is "California". The laws there are such that you have to pay money owed under a legal contract, period. But you can only recover actual damages and interest. Nothing else. Their inclusion of "punitive damages" and the insane amount is just as likely to get the thing thrown out by a judge. Just watch most of those TV court shows - they tend to be filmed in California or New York, both of which almost every other episode have the judge explain to the plaintiff (for the thousandth time) that "pain and damages" and the like aren't recoverable there.

I put the real bill at closer to maybe 50 million, which is still a lot of cash. My guess is that they are hoping to settle out of court since Activision knows they are going to be found guilty of something the second the lawyers go through their emails and documents. Again, California's laws are a PITA to deal with and it has some of the nastiest chain-of-evidence and E-discovery laws. If you hide anything, you're meat. If you destroy anything, you're toast. If you "forgot" to keep the old emails, you essentially lose the case by default. And the guys really do show up with the police in tow if required and haul your entire backups off to get analyzed by firms that are so good at this stuff that nothing short of god-level encryption will save you.

Basic summary - don't do business in California if you plan to screw your partners or employees. You lose every single time. The only question is - how much will Activision have to settle for.

Re:MW3 money? (1)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 4 years ago | (#32010840)

The money they're asking for is compensation they were promised for Modern Warfare 2 and never received, not for the MW3 game they don't even want to make.

The article does explicitly say that the claims include "future profits from games such as Modern Warfare 3". Remember, once lawyers get the scent of money, you shouldn't expect any consistency in the claims.

Res ipsa loquitur (5, Insightful)

Rollgunner (630808) | more than 4 years ago | (#32010018)

Bringing a lawsuit against a huge corporation for half a billion dollars... That *is* Modern Warfare.

Re:Res ipsa loquitur (2, Insightful)

c6gunner (950153) | more than 4 years ago | (#32010788)

I wish Al Qaeda would figure that out. Lawsuits are so much better than bullets ...

Re:Res ipsa loquitur (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32042940)

Some people think they can outsmart me.

Maybe... maybe. ...I'm yet to meet one who can outsmart bullets.

Not to beat a dead horse, but... (4, Interesting)

J-1000 (869558) | more than 4 years ago | (#32010120)

...anyone know how the developers themselves feel about the "no servers/mods" policy with PC Modern Warfare 2? I'm hoping *maybe* that was an Activision decision and *maybe* Respawn's future stuff will have a less lame implementation.

Re:Not to beat a dead horse, but... (0, Troll)

im_thatoneguy (819432) | more than 4 years ago | (#32010336)

OMG GIVE IT UP ALREADY.

Re:Not to beat a dead horse, but... (4, Insightful)

Tukz (664339) | more than 4 years ago | (#32010428)

No, if we give up, we loose the fight.
This trend with no dedicated servers, has got to stop.

What happens now if IW gets shut down? What if they shut down the IWnet servers too?
MW2 is dead then.

But if we had control over our own server systems, we could still play on dedicated servers.
Like, you know, they've done for decades.

I am not willing to give up on this issue, as old as it may get.
I own pretty much all consoles and a high-end PC for gaming, so I'm not taking sides per se (no PC fanboi, nor a console fanboi)

But I feel screwed over as a PC gamer. They remove features we've been accustomed to for YEARS.

And before anyone scream piracy, I spend at least an average of $300 on games each month, so keep me out of that endless loop.

So no, we won't give up already.

I fully agree.. (2)

JohnRoss1968 (574825) | more than 4 years ago | (#32010574)

MW2 NEEDS dedicated servers. So we can add back some of the little things IWNet took away from us.
Like the ability to Kick cheaters. Or how about being able to play an entire game with out stopping to switch hosts.
The game itself is great but IWNet sucks...
BTW my name ingame is IWNetsucks and its true... Its Damn true

Re:Not to beat a dead horse, but... (3, Informative)

icebraining (1313345) | more than 4 years ago | (#32011720)

No, if we give up, we loose the fight.

LOSE! L-O-S-E! Dammit.

Re:Not to beat a dead horse, but... (1)

pookemon (909195) | more than 4 years ago | (#32011942)

Wot - u doant lyk a loose fite? Your know fun!

Re:Not to beat a dead horse, but... (1)

TheVelvetFlamebait (986083) | more than 4 years ago | (#32012088)

Forget it. That fight's well and truly over.

Re:Not to beat a dead horse, but... (1)

MrNemesis (587188) | more than 4 years ago | (#32012832)

And before anyone scream piracy, I spend at least an average of $300 on games each month, so keep me out of that endless loop.

Shut up, citizen. Our removal of options for things like dedicated servers means that in the future, not only will you be paying your $300 a month, you'll be paying another $100 a month for subscription to several online gaming services and you'll also be unable to play any of your games after we decide to end support for them 1 year after the last patch comes out, unless you subscribe to our Classic Gaming Service at only $50 a month! /still playing the original Unreal Tournament after all these years thank to dedicated servers

Re:Not to beat a dead horse, but... (1)

kalirion (728907) | more than 4 years ago | (#32020466)

And before anyone scream piracy, I spend at least an average of $300 on games each month, so keep me out of that endless loop.

Wait, are you that guy with 20 WoW accounts who does raids all by himself?

Re:Not to beat a dead horse, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32020812)

And before anyone scream piracy, I spend at least an average of $300 on games each month, so keep me out of that endless loop.

I think someone who spends $300/month on games has a much bigger issue than this thread covers.

Re:Not to beat a dead horse, but... (1)

Tukz (664339) | more than 4 years ago | (#32027528)

Well, to be fair, it also includes blu-ray movies and console stuff.

I should had said "on media in general".

Re:Not to beat a dead horse, but... (2, Informative)

Alarash (746254) | more than 4 years ago | (#32011178)

I don't have the source handy, so you'll have to trust my anonymous internet comment, but the "no mod/dedicated server for MW2" policy was decided by Jason West and Vince Zampella, the founders who left first.

Corporatism in Action (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32010358)

That does it, I'm not buying anything anymore from Activision, Apple, Microsoft, Ubisoft, as well as any movies produced for the MPAA or music produced for the RIAA. I'm also not buying anything from the immoral companies of Amazon or Walmart, nor am I making any purchases through Paypal because of their unethical business practices. If it doesn't come on bittorent with a crack or a keygen then it isn't worth having (I'll make the exception for Free software and Creative Commons books, music and movies).

Re:Corporatism in Action (-1, Troll)

erroneus (253617) | more than 4 years ago | (#32010424)

Failure to comply with the interests of the corporate states of america will result in criminal penalties against you.

Re:Corporatism in Action (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32010700)

That does it, I'm not buying anything anymore from Activision

No Starcraft II for you then? [wikipedia.org]

Re:Corporatism in Action (1)

eeCyaJ (881578) | more than 4 years ago | (#32010976)

Sadly *whimper* not. Nor Assassin's Creed II. Nor Silent Hunter.

Re:Corporatism in Action (3, Interesting)

pandrijeczko (588093) | more than 4 years ago | (#32011020)

And if we all do that, then you will have nothing to download on BitTorrent since nothing will be released as no-one would be prepared to pay good money for it - your logic is flawed because it depends on honest users like me subsidising your entertainment.

Personally, I don't give a shit about immoral media companies. As a consumer, all I care about is that the stuff I buy is good value for money and doesn't punish me too much as an honest user - that just means I do a lot of research before I do buy anything and never, ever get coerced by advertising to ever feel that I *MUST* buy something.

Consequently, in buying stuff at the cheapest prices I can find and knowing all about it before I buy it, I am rarely disappointed and therefore am prepared to go out and buy more stuff.

Re:Corporatism in Action (3, Insightful)

MartinSchou (1360093) | more than 4 years ago | (#32012382)

As a consumer, all I care about is that the stuff I buy is good value for money and doesn't punish me too much as an honest user

Uhm ... and what is a reasonable punishment as an honest user? It is a kick in the balls? Punch in the face? Having your leg used as a urinal?

To be honest, the only time I'd expect to be punished after having purchased something, would be if I bought an hour with a professional dominatrix. But being punished for buying a game? Well, they can fuck off!

Re:Corporatism in Action (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32013514)

You talk like you've never paid for any microsoft windows version ever. hell even dos is terrible and punishes you for buying M$

Re:Corporatism in Action (1)

jaraxle (1707) | more than 4 years ago | (#32016662)

As a consumer, all I care about is that the stuff I buy is good value for money and doesn't punish me too much as an honest user

Uhm ... and what is a reasonable punishment as an honest user? It is a kick in the balls?

Yes, yes it is. [penny-arcade.com]

~jaraxle

Re:Corporatism in Action (1)

pandrijeczko (588093) | more than 4 years ago | (#32021542)

Uhm ... and what is a reasonable punishment as an honest user?

DRM. But music is my main hobby in life and few, if any CDs these days are DRMed. Therefore they don't punish me at all.

Steam is partial DRM - I don't like it but I do like Half-Life, Portal and Team Fortress. I therefore consider that punishment but not enough to not buy and play the games.

DRM as implemented by Activision and others is too much punishment - therefore I don't buy the games.

Does that make sense to you now?

Re:Corporatism in Action (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32016856)

Your an idiot. Ever though of suicide?

Hey look, there's something shiny, go buy it, retard.

Re:Corporatism in Action (1)

pandrijeczko (588093) | more than 4 years ago | (#32021462)

My friend

Before you accuse anyone else of being an idiot, check your grammar - it's "you're" not "your".

Yes, I like nice shiny CDs with good music on them, yes I buy lots of them, probably because I'm a rich, music-loving retard. But what the hell, I'm enjoying it, having fun, and that's all that matters.

I'm a shareholder... (1)

Schuthrax (682718) | more than 4 years ago | (#32010482)

Do I have any rights to sue Activision for ruining my potential profits? Can I do anything to have Kotick and crew ousted?

Re:I'm a shareholder... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32010746)

Yeah, you can whine like the passive-aggresive cry baby you are on Slashdot, because honestly, if you need to ask what to do, you are way beyond help.

Re:I'm a shareholder... (1)

znerk (1162519) | more than 4 years ago | (#32010778)

Do I have any rights to sue Activision for ruining my potential profits?

As a matter of fact, yes.

Can I do anything to have Kotick and crew ousted?

Depends... just how many shares do you hold, or can you get access to? A large enough percentage could just swing a vote... or even cause one to be raised in the first place.

--
This is not legal advice. Use your favorite search engine for more information, or contact an actual lawyer.

Re:I'm a shareholder... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32011184)

Do I have any rights to sue Activision for ruining my potential profits?

Yes.

Can I do anything to have Kotick and crew ousted?

Start a shareholder vote.

Re:I'm a shareholder... (1)

XAD1975 (1628499) | more than 4 years ago | (#32013044)

Yes you can. If you're shareholder you have your word to say at the General Assembly and by voting against the approval of the last exercise results. You may not win, but at least you'll be heard.

Thanks for the ride Activision (1)

nataflux (1733716) | more than 4 years ago | (#32010894)

It seems they don't care to leave their IP in the clutches of Activision, and from a consumer's standpoint, its not a big deal after there have been some 6 Call of Duty games. Publishers should learn their place, as stepping stones.

another money grab...by lawyers (1)

hornedrat (1767706) | more than 4 years ago | (#32011072)

I love this sort of claim and counter claim the only people who stand to benefit are the lawyers, whats the betting that bonus' etc turn out to be discretionary and require you to still be working for the company at the time it is paid. (and my formaer employers even required you not to be working a notice period always caused a nice flood of resignations post payment) Certainly that is the norm in the uk for most big companies to have clauses in the contracts. The only people who stand to be better off under the whole thing are yet again the lawyers who have enacted the suit.

this is way bigger... (1)

SinShiva (1429617) | more than 4 years ago | (#32012154)

activision loses the game, customers lose the game. this means infinitywards is plotting for the subsequent class action suit filed by purchasers of the game (thanks to the lack of dedicated servers) or they plan to use this for leverage, no?

Rooting for the little guys (1)

gubers33 (1302099) | more than 4 years ago | (#32012710)

Stick it to the man!

$13M each (minus legal fees)? (1)

zero_out (1705074) | more than 4 years ago | (#32013964)

Seriously, when did game development become so lucrative? I know that Atari used to pay their devs and coders slave wages, and that has changed (EA excluded, perhaps), but when did the little guy start making $13M? I'll be lucky to see half of that in my lifetime.

If I'm missing something important from the article, please quote it. The site is blocked by my employer's Websense firewall.

Block Reason: The Websense category "Games" is filtered.

What I'd do to the Activision Execs... (2, Funny)

gbyrdeaux (1348329) | more than 4 years ago | (#32014118)

I'd begin by tactically inserting into Activision Headquarters, mow down about 5 execs with my SCAR-H Grenade Launcher. Call in a Predator Missile and get a Triple Kill... Call in a Harrier Strike, which would take out about 4 or 5 more... then I would rape away with my AC-130. Then I would demand my royalties

So skilled with the lash... (4, Funny)

Valgar (225897) | more than 4 years ago | (#32016424)

The fact that they can screw with and abuse people so hard that they actually WANT to go work for EA, speaks volumes about how dedicated Activision must be to sucking every last cent of work out of their employees.

best reply indeed (1)

shnull (1359843) | more than 4 years ago | (#32027954)

= they loste the best people they have, the people that made their greatest hit. No matter if they win this lawsuit, they lose anyway when it comes to future production. Talent should be nurtured, it's weird that big corporations fail to realize this somehow, actvision, microsoft to name but a few ...
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