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Ubuntu Linux 10.04 Review (Lucid Lynx)

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the lessons-in-alliteration dept.

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JimLynch writes "The open source world has been eagerly anticipating the final release of Ubuntu Linux 10.04, and now it's finally here. Canonical has been working extremely hard and it shows in the quality of this release."

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first! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32029654)

first!

#1 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32029668)

Anonymous steals the first post.

Except... (4, Informative)

i.r.id10t (595143) | more than 3 years ago | (#32029678)

Except it isn't released yet. On hold due to a bug in install process that doesn't detect dual boot set ups properly...

Release party on IRC server: irc.freenode.net #ubuntu-release-party

Re:Except... (5, Insightful)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 3 years ago | (#32029770)

And this is why I'm waiting a few weeks, until they get the initial bugs out.

Re:Except... (4, Insightful)

migla (1099771) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030184)

I have a pet regression in lucid: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/545443 [launchpad.net]

"Lucid on Asus EEE PC 901 and 1000H fails to connect to any wireless network". Those (pretty common, I think) netbooks have the RaLink RT2860 wireless chipset.

Re:Except... (2, Insightful)

azzy (86427) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030228)

yeah, I sulk on this one too. Hit me in 9.04, worked 9.10, bad on 10.04 again. I think it's something to do with April

Re:Except... (2, Informative)

mr beeth (1039934) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030520)

That's odd, 10.04 works fine with the wireless in my EeePc 901. Alpha straight up through the release candidate. Yes mine does have the RaLink RT2860 wireless chip. I actually use my Eee as my test platform for all the new Ubuntu releases, since I don't store anything on it it's easy to wipe and do clean installs. A month or two on that before upgrading my workstation (if at all, depending on the release).

Re:Except... (0)

bhunachchicken (834243) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030328)

God, have I learned that lesson the painful way. Two weeks post-release seems to be the best bet. That way, one avoids the entire downgrade to the previous version, when you recover something has gone hideous wrong.

Problem is that I'm often like a little kid at Christmas when it comes to releases. I usually want to install it RIGHT NOW, so I can enjoy all the cool new features and benefits...

... and then find myself up till about 2am on a school night, waiting for the crawling downloads to complete, since the repos are being banged harder than a barn door in a heavy wind.

Re:Except... (2, Informative)

Luke has no name (1423139) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030442)

EE/CS is a popular degree plan at Texas Tech University. Computer Engineering is a condensed version of EE/CS here, so EE/CE would be repetitive.

Re:Except... (4, Funny)

Pvt_Ryan (1102363) | more than 3 years ago | (#32029772)

Why is that a bug? MS hasn't ever detected dual boot properly.

Re:Except... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32029778)

Luckily our standards are higher than theirs.

Re:Except... (1)

colinnwn (677715) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030426)

Because we have higher expectations for open source software. That, and too many people still need a Win partition for a few tasks. If Ubuntu borked their Win install, many people would not install it or swear off future releases. Setting up a Win virtual machine isn't stupid easy yet.

Re:Except... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32029790)

I complained about this on #unbutu and was told there by the cretins, that it was something I was doing wrong...

Thanks, but I know how bootloaders work, and I know that 10.04 LTS RC had totally toasted my Win7 dual boot...

Re:Except... (1)

houstonbofh (602064) | more than 3 years ago | (#32029832)

Well, that an the big X memory leak... http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODE3MA [phoronix.com]

Re:Except... (3, Insightful)

V!NCENT (1105021) | more than 3 years ago | (#32029892)

Caused by heavily packporting features from xserver 1.8 back to 1.7 and KMS from Linux 2.6.34 back to 2.6.32.

Seriously... what where they thinking? Getting such a huge memmory leak was just being ASKED FOR!

Re:Except... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32030438)

I'll go out on a limb and predict that Phoronix concludes that the latest Ubuntu release is the greatest thing ever. All their benchmarks conclude that Ubuntu is the fastest thing that ever existed, even if it doesn't come in first. I stopped even reading their Ubuntu R0x0rs articles.

Re:Except... (1)

Stuckey (1613949) | more than 3 years ago | (#32029872)

Otherwise known as the I-only-see-"GRUB 2"-after-restarting bug. Yeah, it's a pretty serious bug.

Re:Except... (5, Interesting)

Skarecrow77 (1714214) | more than 3 years ago | (#32029882)

Has it?? i've been running beta2 for a few weeks and it dual boots Win7 just fine. Did they break something?

Speaking of which, my impressions of 10.04 aren't as thrilled as the summary (can't read TFA yet). I ran 9.04 for nearly a year, skipped completely over 9.10, and now that I'm on 10.04, I honestly can't tell what's different from 9.04 aside from the new purple/grey/orange colored interface bars, moved min/max/close buttons, different IM tool (which I was already using in 9.04 anyway), and the login tool already knowing my name. Oh, and some icons for cloud computing (which I'm not sold on at all) and integration with facebook and twitter.

Maybe I'm wrong here, but with the short 6-month release schedule, it doesn't seem like -any- release of Ubuntu is worth "eagerly anticipating". It's not like we're talking the 6 year feature/design gap between XP and Vista, or even the 3 year gap between Vista and 7.

It seems like it basically comes down to "install whatever release is current, get it configured to your liking, and run it until support ends." I saw no reason to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10, and I wouldn't have upgraded from 9.04 to 10.04 except I needed to wipe the HD anyway.

Re:Except... (5, Insightful)

houstonbofh (602064) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030060)

The main reason to upgrade is when %your_application% needs to be upgraded to get a new feature, or bug fixed. And the most stable times to upgrade are either early in the beta, or a month after release. For some reason, close to release (on either side of the date) is the most unstable of times.

Re:Except... (1)

AvitarX (172628) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030454)

6.10 - 7.10 was a pretty exciting time (as a casual nerd).

Since 7.10 the only real improvement is KDE4 became usable, but as much as I want to love KDE4, I think I actually really like Gnome.

Something about a clean task bar at the bottom really works for me, leaving the cluttery menu and buttons at the top.

I really like the QT4 widget set a lot (especially tool bars, e.g. Eric Python IDE
), but in use somehow, gnome just feels clean (I hate to say that too).

It's almost like all the UI research that lead to hated change, actually made something somewhat better.

and I feel that configuring Gnome is easier too somehow (well beryl vs kwin at least)

Re:Except... (1)

Tigris666 (197729) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030012)

Except it isn't released yet. On hold due to a bug in install process that doesn't detect dual boot set ups properly...

Wow. It's not like slashdotters to be premature!

Re:Except... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32030070)

That's not what she said!

slashdot has been waiting for.. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32029688)

this first post to mod me down.

HUZZAH!!! (1, Redundant)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#32029698)

My Dell Mini 9 has been hungering for 10.04...and now its appetite shall be satiated.

PS: I think TFA has already been slashdotted...

Re:HUZZAH!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32030110)

Be nice and use the Coral cache [nyud.net] .

Re:HUZZAH!!! (1)

1310nm (687270) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030226)

Hopefully they have worked out the multitude of bugs with the Wind and Netbook Remix. I have no power button in the UI, power management has a bug with the brightness function keys, no display for turbo mode, wireless adapter disabled on bootup sometimes and function key to enable it won't work, eats battery like Pac Man on a bender...

Unfortunately, I'd rather just boot to XP on my Wind for most tasks.

Teh Poap! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32029788)

El calvo viñuales (yaco) y el otro el marichalar (emergya), como siempre encuentro pa chupar del bote de la junta y los asistentes "que vienen a aprender" a hacerles el trabajo. NO VAYAIS!!! ACORDAOS DE LA GUADEC DE SEVILLA!!

I heard the same about 8.10 and 9.04 and 9.10 (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32029806)

... and I've given up. Between the backport madness, button relocation debate, purplification, and a complete disassociation with the community I did something which I didn't think I'd ever do. After 10 years of .deb distros, I'm running Fedora.

And you know what? It's nice. F12 is stable; yum seems to address all of those rpm complaints of old. I don't have strange oddities, there's actually SELINUX support. F12 works so well that in 10 years of running Linux I find myself (for the first time) in the situation where there is a beta out of the new Fedora and I haven't installed it as my system works flawlessly (I did boot the live CD and F13 beta is looking good too - I just don't want to upgrade until its baked).

Re:I heard the same about 8.10 and 9.04 and 9.10 (3, Informative)

cynyr (703126) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030196)

odd, i gave up on redhat and suse back in 2003, and went with gentoo, because i wanted/needed a vanilla distro. Ever try getting an exotic video card working in fedora/suse back then? I'm betting they follow upstream more now. Good to see that Redhat/fedora are getting their act together. Gentoo doesn't force buttons anywhere, it does as upstream says, or as I tell it to. viva la Gentoo

Re:I heard the same about 8.10 and 9.04 and 9.10 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32030354)

Fedora pretty much *is* upstream for a lot of software.

Re:I heard the same about 8.10 and 9.04 and 9.10 (3, Informative)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030482)

I used Gentoo for almost 3 years, but personally, I dumped it for Ubuntu when 9.04 was released. Gentoo often got confused over time. portage would work great until EVENTUALLY it got into some conflict where you couldn't emerge a new package because it conflicted with an older one. And if you tried to update your profile things could get hairy. And merging your changes to an old config file with the incoming one via etc-update? That was always a crapshoot. 90% of the time it would work fine. The other 10% something would break and require a few hours of digging around to fix it.

Don't get me wrong I liked the speed of Gentoo, and it was nice that I typically had new releases of software much faster than I do on Ubuntu, but Gentoo just got to be too big of a headache for me.

Besides. On theming issues it's not hard to pull Ubuntu back to defaults (or customized to what you want - which for me isn't upstream nor Ubuntu's defaults).

Re:I heard the same about 8.10 and 9.04 and 9.10 (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32030254)

That's just the newest you're seeing. You're in newbie "awesome" mode. Just wait till you get to the Fedora/RedHat warts. Like if you do any kind of development you will be cursing them in no time. Hate that those RedHat based distros because you can develop something that works on everything from BSD, OSX, Windows, to Debian but then you have to make a special effort to get the damn thing to work on fucking RedHat.

Also note how there are like 50 thousand different package/dependency managers on RedHat system (yum is just the tip of the iceberg). It's because they all suck. Try running Fedora on an old computer and you will see how poorly those package managers perform.

Re:I heard the same about 8.10 and 9.04 and 9.10 (1)

metamatic (202216) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030288)

yum seems to address all of those rpm complaints of old

Yeah, it does when you first install it.

Then eventually you hit a circular dependency, or a package yum mysteriously won't upgrade, or RPM craps out its database, or you notice how incredibly goddamn slow yum is...

No, it's not (2, Insightful)

makapuf (412290) | more than 3 years ago | (#32029822)

Actually, not currently as the home page issues a warning about a "in development" version for lucid ...

btw, the review seems to provide little more than the press release : what about bugs ? speed ? HW compatibility and performance besides boot times - it's an OS ! - , system configuration apps, boot splash with nvidia proprietary drivers ..., what about other sister as mint, Kubuntu, or Lubuntu)

Re:No, it's not (1)

cynyr (703126) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030334)

bootsplash should work fine with nvidia drivers. Although to be honest i've never tried that, why do I care what the boot process when it happens at most every kernel release, or less. HW compatability should be as good as anything running the linux kernel. Seeing as the x86 version is compiled for a 386, slow as all hell. Yes i run gentoo but with sane flags, "-march=k8-sse3 -O2 -pipe". I'm not saying they should add -funroll-loops or anything, but maybe a x86 version with SSE SSE2, and 686? Config apps are known as gvim/xemacs. The sisters should be re-spinning soon. Also why is there a whole new distro for just using XFCE or KDE instead of GNOME? shouldn't it just be a check box?

The real question? does it finally work in both virtualbox and kvm?

What will they do for release 24? (2, Interesting)

Palestrina (715471) | more than 3 years ago | (#32029838)

I hope someone sees that the naming scheme is going to run into trouble when they reach the letter 'X'.

What is the best they can do? Ubuntu 24.0 (Xanthic Xerus) ?

Re:What will they do for release 24? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32029904)

Xenophobic Xenomorph?

Re:What will they do for release 24? (2, Interesting)

wertigon (1204486) | more than 3 years ago | (#32029962)

I predict they'll run into trouble much sooner than that. Q, more specifically.

Re:What will they do for release 24? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32030090)

Quality Quail

What do I win?

Re:What will they do for release 24? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32030154)

I predict they'll run into trouble much sooner than that. Q, more specifically.

Well lets see:
-Quirky Quoll
-Quiet Quail
-Q(something) Quokka
-Q(something) Quahog

Although there is the issue of the animals being from some book/tv show or something like that if I remember rightly...

Re:What will they do for release 24? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32030398)

Queefing Quail

or, Queef'n'Quail

Re:What will they do for release 24? (0)

archmcd (1789532) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030046)

That's still 14 years away. Ubuntu versions are YEAR.MONTH of release. 10.04 = April, 2010. Although they may get to X prior to version 24, as each release gets a new name, even if it's the second release in a year.

Re:What will they do for release 24? (4, Funny)

gmuslera (3436) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030158)

By Ubuntu 22.04 it will become self-aware, and will only accept to be called as "Him", anything else will guarantee a thunderstorm very close to your head.

It's 10.04 LTS (not "10.04") (4, Informative)

MagicFab (7234) | more than 3 years ago | (#32029878)

This Ubuntu release is 10.04 LTS (for "Long Term Support").

Getting the RC version or the latest daily ISO and upgrading from that is functionally equivalent to waiting for the final ISO to be released and installing it.

Anyone updating their packages from a recent enough beta or RC of Ubuntu will end up having the equivalent of the release.

In case it's not clear, it makes sense NOT to wait for the final release.

Re:It's 10.04 LTS (not "10.04") (4, Informative)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030240)

While it's unlikely this late in the game, you have to account for the fact that the Beta or RC versions could put your system into a bit of disarray (for example, the alternatives system for Nvidia drivers has given me nothing but trouble) which might not be reversed on final update. To be safest, it's best to wait for the final release.

Specifically, though I had no trouble upgrading from 9.04 final to 9.10 final, I jumped the gun and tried 10.04 while it was beta. Lets just say that while the system is working ok(-ish), I won't be doing that again, and after the release today I'm wiping the system and reinstalling a clean copy (/home is on separate drive so it's pretty easy to just start over).

Re:It's 10.04 LTS (not "10.04") (1)

senorpoco (1396603) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030344)

"it makes sense NOT to wait for the final release." Not done many Ubuntu updates eh? I have yet to have an ubuntu upgrade work first time. I now wait a month after the release for the techminded to hammer out the big bugs.

Perhaps... (4, Insightful)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 3 years ago | (#32029912)

Perhaps this will be the Ubuntu install were I have no problems like everyone else claims. Every freaking version I try installing I always seem to run into issues, and not of them are easy fixes. Oh you want native resolution fine but you will need to give up GNOME, Unless you want to install it via TAR Balls. Oh you want sound sure... But this only worked in some apps. Oh what is the fix for that. Go into you etc file and add some cryptic commands that are not in any man page.

But if say there are problems with Ubuntu and there are things that OS X or Windows handles a lot better. Be prepared for a fight and everyone calling you an idiot.

Re:Perhaps... (1)

tsj5j (1159013) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030030)

I think thats an indication of uncommon hardware. I used to have such problems, but after custom building my current PC with rather well-reviewed (and hence popular) parts, I've never had such weird issues anymore. As much as Linux users want you to think, drivers can still be a hit and miss affair, especially if the manufacturer is a small one with no resources to dev for linux.

Re:Perhaps... (1)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030278)

especially if the manufacturer is a small one with no resources to dev for linux

Like Dell.

However I don't like building my own System just to run Linux. Not because I can't but because you assume that I have the time to check every freaken spec to see if Linux works with it, then you need to see if your chosen Distribution works with it. Or the fact that your computer say for work is purchased by reasons unknown sure they will allow you to install Linux on it but they are not going to spend extra money for those particular parts that will make it Linux compatible.

If Linux for the desktop concept will succeed there needs to be a stop of these excuses on why it doesn't happen and just get it to work.

Re:Perhaps... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32030218)

Windows 7 is the bomb. I tried Ubuntu 9.4 awhile ago... trying to install almost anything is a pain the ass. Copying and pasting code just to install something... eh.. i'll pay $100 for windows every 6 years. I'm not in any way a microsoft fanboy either. They just provide the best bang for your buck, including apple. My god don't get me started. They come out with a new OS nearly every year and charge $100 claiming to be cheaper then microsoft... well yeah the retail editions are expensive. I buy OEM. Its all anyone really needs especially in today's day and age you can just google most problems and find solutions to fix yourself.

Re:Perhaps... (5, Insightful)

agrounds (227704) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030276)

To be fair, being called an idiot instead of a reasonable reply is pretty much inherent to the entire IT community. We're an entire culture of people that have long since forgotten that our job is ultimately to provide a customer service. There is a prevaling attitude of 'works for me, you must suck' or 'program it yourself' instead of taking the moderate and service-oriented approach of actually listening, interpreting, and working collaboratively towards a solution in a manner that everyone can follow.

It's little wonder we are held in disdain by most.

Is there a How-To on moving the window icons back (2, Insightful)

lena_10326 (1100441) | more than 3 years ago | (#32029922)

.... to the right side of the window title bar where they belong? If it's not possible, I will not budge from 9.10 thank you very much.

Re:Is there a How-To on moving the window icons ba (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32030010)

.... to the right side of the window title bar where they belong? If it's not possible, I will not budge from 9.10 thank you very much.

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/13535/move-window-buttons-back-to-the-right-in-ubuntu-10.04/

Re:Is there a How-To on moving the window icons ba (1)

killthepoor187 (1600283) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030036)

You can either change them manually through gconf-editor or use one of the non-new themes.

Re:Is there a How-To on moving the window icons ba (0)

houstonbofh (602064) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030284)

Actually, it moves them globally. Or it did. It was bugged. I have not tested to see if it is fixed.

Re:Is there a How-To on moving the window icons ba (2, Funny)

ViViDboarder (1473973) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030042)

.... where they belong?

And the Lord said, "Window decorations must always reside on the right hand side of the window!" And so it was done.

Re:Is there a How-To on moving the window icons ba (5, Funny)

someSnarkyBastard (1521235) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030484)

You aren't being biblical enough.
[Charlton Heston voice]

And thus the Lord, who is our God, the God of Israel, spake, saying " Woe unto him and unto his seventh generation, he who puts his window decorations on the left side, for they are an abomination unto Me. Thou shalt offer burnt sacrifices as guilt offering to atone for your sin and then henceforth always have your window decorations on the right" and thus it was written

Now that's biblical

Re:Is there a How-To on moving the window icons ba (2, Informative)

drumbug1 (1140947) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030086)

.... to the right side of the window title bar where they belong? If it's not possible, I will not budge from 9.10 thank you very much.

just use the "Human" theme (that's the default in 9.10)... the buttons moved are only part of the NEW THEMES.

Re:Is there a How-To on moving the window icons ba (1, Informative)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030146)

Not true. I was running my own custom theme (loosely based on Clearlooks) from 9.10 and on upgrade it forced my buttons to the left, requiring me to change it back.

Re:Is there a How-To on moving the window icons ba (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32030096)

.... to the right side of the window title bar where they belong? If it's not possible, I will not budge from 9.10 thank you very much.

Simply copy and paste this line into your terminal:
gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string “menu:minimize,maximize,close,spacer”

Re:Is there a How-To on moving the window icons ba (1)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030102)

Go into gconf-editor, look into the metacity preferences, and there is an option to adjust button order.

IIRC (sorry, I'm at work on a Win7 machine), the new default is

close,maximize,minimize:

change it to

menu:minimize,maximize,close

and you get the old button order back. Works fine.

Re:Is there a How-To on moving the window icons ba (1)

houstonbofh (602064) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030174)

.... to the right side of the window title bar where they belong? If it's not possible, I will not budge from 9.10 thank you very much.

http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+move+buttons+back [google.com]

More than a few...
This one is the original. http://lifehacker.com/5500577/move-ubuntus-window-buttons-back-to-the-right [lifehacker.com]

And this one looks quite easy. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/13535/move-window-buttons-back-to-the-right-in-ubuntu-10.04/ [howtogeek.com]

Now you can upgrade.

Re:Is there a How-To on moving the window icons ba (0, Redundant)

lena_10326 (1100441) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030234)

I know I could have googled. Half the reason for my question was to protest this ridiculous design decision. The other half was to actually find out how to do it.

Re:Is there a How-To on moving the window icons ba (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32030392)

NO CA^%&*%&.&#..

but left is good for you (5, Funny)

formfeed (703859) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030404)

Moving the buttons will force you to use the other side of your brain more often. Which then will make you a more thoughtful, kinder, and loving person. Just look at the difference between Steve Jobs and Steve Ballmer.
Do you really want to end up throwing chairs at people?

Re:Is there a How-To on moving the window icons ba (1)

0123456789 (467085) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030514)

It's a pet hate of mine that the minimise/maximise buttons are beside the close window buttons on pretty much every window manager on pretty much every OS. It just seems obvious to me to have minimise/maximise on one side and close on the other so there's less risk of closing a window by accident.

It can be changed on KDE (and I see in the other replies it can be done in gnome as well), but it shouldn't need to be.

in a hurry? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32029972)

Why is slashdot reporting a story when there has been no official announcement?
Does slashdot do this to get the story out quicker to get ad revenue before readers get the news on another website? Is competition that intense that you have to resort to putting out an article even if untrue?

Re:in a hurry? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32030082)

Its a pre-emptive slashdotting.

Ubuntu 10.04 (1)

tad1073 (1144579) | more than 3 years ago | (#32029998)

I have been using Ubuntu 10.04 since alpha and will have to say that it has been rock solid.

Re:Ubuntu 10.04 (1)

houstonbofh (602064) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030356)

I have been using Ubuntu 10.04 since alpha and will have to say that it has been rock solid.

Up until the last 2 weeks, I would agree with you. What is it about the rush to a deadline that makes them go crazy and try to shove half baked stuff in?

Been using Kubuntu 10.04... (5, Interesting)

mweather (1089505) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030000)

I know Kubuntu is the redheaded stepchild of Ubuntu, but you should try out Kubuntu 10.04. I don't know how I lived without tabbed windows.

Nautilus still broken (2, Informative)

will.perdikakis (1074743) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030004)

For those of you curious... The latest build of 10.04 still has not fixed the Network bug where you can not map Sabma network drives.

Such as pain in that ass as this did once work in 9.10.

Re:Nautilus still broken (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32030370)

I've got SMB drives mapped in Nautilus in 10.04 beta, always have had since early alphas. What problem are you referring to?

Ubuntu Platform (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32030028)

Ubuntu has become a platform to generate revenue for canonical:

Ubuntu Music Shop
Ubuntu Software Store
Search Deal with Yahoo/Google

Re:Ubuntu Platform (2, Insightful)

houstonbofh (602064) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030400)

Ubuntu has become a platform to generate revenue for canonical:

Ubuntu Music Shop Ubuntu Software Store Search Deal with Yahoo/Google

Become? They have always had a business model. If making money is a crime, quite your job. And the search deal with Yahoo fell through.

quality? (1)

cunnilingus (706302) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030062)

Well, this release has everything, except quality. Unless quality is new art. Using 10.04 as a Desktop is serious pain. I hope that it will be at least as stable as windows soon as currently I have to answer myself everyday "So, mr linux lover guy - what is the reason you are using linux as a desktop again?"

Re:quality? (4, Insightful)

ProdigyPuNk (614140) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030434)

If your looking for a more stable ubuntu try Debian. It's what ubuntu is based on, and doesn't have all the fluffy feel-good stuff that ubuntu has. I'm not just trying to troll an ubuntu thread as a Debian guy, but I've heard dozens of times now about how someone is going to switch back to Windows due to problems in ubuntu. Try something else first! Ubuntu != Linux.

Teething troubles (1)

Kupfernigk (1190345) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030120)

I am running the rc's on 64 bit and 32 bit platforms. Yes there have been some annoying problems. the latest update has screwed my Nvidia 64 bit driver, and I have had the samba problem. Production is still in 9.10 and likely to stay that way for a while.

BUT:

Nowadays everything is late.

It is going, I think, to be a worthwhile upgrade with its 3 year timeframe.

As for the menu widgets - I actually like it that way and I find myself annoyed that Chrome doesn't follow the rules. Sorry.

Re:Teething troubles (1)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030318)

As for the menu widgets - I actually like it that way and I find myself annoyed that Chrome doesn't follow the rules. Sorry.

If you search around in the menu's there's an option to use the WM's title bar instead of Google's. Not as slick, but it works. There's also a GTK theme option which is what I use. I like the traditional button placement, but the default blue color scheme on Chrome clashes with the GTK theme I'm running, so I just want it to match a little better.

Obvious comment: (2)

formfeed (703859) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030238)

This might be the year of the linux desktop!

Re:Obvious comment: (0)

lena_10326 (1100441) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030296)

Lulz. The first time I remember hearing that remark was 1998.

Re:Obvious comment: (2, Insightful)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 3 years ago | (#32030388)

For some people it was the year of the linux desktop back in '98 :).

Either way, desktop relevance is waning ('course the first time I heard THAT was back around 1998 too), and Linux came out of the gate swinging in that area. Linux very well may become the dominant OS via a method none of us ever expected.

The letter Q (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32030350)

Querulous Quail

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