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IT Crowd (UK) Coming Back For Season 4

timothy posted more than 4 years ago | from the good-thing-the-german-didn't-eat-him dept.

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sammyF70 writes "Every geek's favourite non-sci-fi show (the original UK one, not the abysmally bad German and US remakes) is coming back for a fourth season! According to the IMDB's message board, it should be on the air 'Juneish.' While you wait, you can check out what kind of vintage hardware will be on the show this time, and remember: if you illegally download movies, you will face the consequences!"

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165 comments

Meh. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32054758)

The show sucked. In any country.

LOL (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32054778)

Nerds!

That should sum up the entire series.

I'll be sure to set the VVCR (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32054764)

By which I mean the RSS'd BitTorrent client, and the batch script that passes its products to Handbrake, then loads the transcoded files into iTunes.
Also, the batch script that restarts iTunes at 5am to force it sync with the iPad and hacked iPod touch attached.

Re:I'll be sure to set the VVCR (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32054794)

Ah yes, the simplicity of the Mac.

Re:I'll be sure to set the VVCR (4, Insightful)

mikael_j (106439) | more than 4 years ago | (#32054878)

Sounds more like a typical *nix user setup, you did know that OS X is a UNIX system, right?

Re:I'll be sure to set the VVCR (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32054992)

You did know that was a joke, right?

Re:I'll be sure to set the VVCR (0)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055834)

Whooooosh! Missed that one by a mile.

Re:I'll be sure to set the VVCR (1)

SimonTheSoundMan (1012395) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055116)

Or you could just use EyeTV, and it will automatically transcode for iPad/iPhone/iPod and then send to iTunes. You only need to sync your iPad.

Never found it funny (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32054780)

Ridiculous over the top laugh track ruined it for me.

There isn't one (5, Informative)

mccalli (323026) | more than 4 years ago | (#32054796)

I was part of the audience the other week for the filming of the last episode for this season. The laughing? It's real, and this season round some of it will be from me.

Though obviously it takes a long time to film and so things don't flow as seamlessly as the TV episode itself, and perhaps they reuse laughs from one take over the top of acting from another take...it's still actually real. The writer came out to the audience and specifically talked about laugh tracks - he said he filmed in front of a live audience so that a) he was sure enough things were funny and b) because the actors could spark off the reactions.

I'm not going to give anything away about it, but we saw two episodes - one already filmed and edited, the other was being filmed on the night. They are both great, so tune in and have a watch this time.

Cheers,
Ian

Re:There isn't one (1)

houghi (78078) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055044)

and perhaps they reuse laughs from one take over the top of acting from another take...it's still actually real.

To me that is just as real as using canned laughter that was recorded for a completely different show. The fact that it would be used in the same show does not matter. It is still not laughing about what the audience saw and experienced.

Not saying that they do that.

Re:There isn't one (1)

jareth-0205 (525594) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055192)

and perhaps they reuse laughs from one take over the top of acting from another take...it's still actually real.

To me that is just as real as using canned laughter that was recorded for a completely different show.

But that's just the language of television. You can't reconcile having a television show with potentially multiple takes, and the typical audience-at-home experience of seeing all the jokes for the first time. If you picked the real laughter from the takes, it would be all over the place as sometimes you'd have a first take where the joke was new and sometimes you'd have a late take where it's not funny anymore.

Re:There isn't one (1, Insightful)

Neon Aardvark (967388) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055120)

I don't care if the laughter is real. I don't need to be told if something is funny. And shows that feel the need to have something "funny" every 10 seconds to justify the regular canned laughter (and yes, it's canned even if it's from the same show but edited and moved around) are invariably as funny as an air-borne Ebola virus outbreak.

Laughter tracks are hideous plain and simple, and should have died sometime in the mid 1980s.

Re:There isn't one (1)

penfold69 (471774) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055446)

I wonder which title they're gonna choose for the episode!

I was there too - in fact, I went to 3 of the filming sessions and we've got a treat in store for this season :)

P.

Re:Never found it funny (2, Insightful)

timothy (36799) | more than 4 years ago | (#32054824)

I found it quite funny, but have the same objection. I wonder if the presence of laugh tracks is a preemptive move; later, they can offer a "regular" version for download, or, for twice the price, one with the laughtrack stripped out. My hopes on that front have dried up, though. I actually like certain sit-coms, but unfortunately for sit-coms they generally include it by default. (Arrested Development in one exception, but not the only one.)

Related aside: I used to watch the show MASH a lot -- it was my favorite show from a young age (I remember seeing it when the re-runs weren't yet re-runs ...), but seeing the movie on which the TV show is based unfortunately ruined it for me. Not just because I liked the movie's cast better (the show's cast is still well-suited), but because the notably absent laugh track suits the actual mood of the film; the TV version suddenly felt tacky and cheap.

Now, the IT Crowd is not a socially ponderous, lessons-of-life type show, as MASH tried to be (and, despite it all, succeeded) -- it's a light-hearted farce, comedy of errors and lack of manners, etc. But even so -- no laugh-track should be an option, just like "laugh track" should *not* be an option on The Godfather, Schindler's List, Black Beauty ...

timothy

Re:Never found it funny (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32054870)

-- no laugh-track should be an option

MASH on disc has the option to disable the laugh track on some (not all) episodes

Re:Never found it funny (2, Interesting)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 4 years ago | (#32054956)

As I understand it, MASH was broadcast in the UK without a laughter track. I vaguely remember there being complaints when they accidentally showed it with one.

Re:Never found it funny (2, Interesting)

Ginger Unicorn (952287) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055030)

good god mash had a laugh track? i only ever saw it without. I imagine the whole thing seems a lot more undignified and lowbrow with a laugh track - like watching "happy days goes to vietnam" or something. On the other hand, the bbc once aired the addams family without the laugh track and every single joke hung in the air like a bad fart. It was extremely uncomfortable to watch.

Re:Never found it funny (0, Redundant)

Dogtanian (588974) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055264)

the bbc once aired the addams family without the laugh track and every single joke hung in the air like a bad fart. It was extremely uncomfortable to watch.

I strongly suspect that the Addams Family was scripted and acted with pauses for a prominent laugh track in mind, and that's why it sounded awkward without it- waiting for laughter that doesn't come.

Re:Never found it funny (1)

nanoakron (234907) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055776)

I never realised until you just said it but yes, I don't recall ever having heard a laughter track whilst watching MASH over here.

God, it must be awful with one...

Re:Never found it funny (0, Troll)

dangitman (862676) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055050)

But even so -- no laugh-track should be an option, just like "laugh track" should *not* be an option on The Godfather, Schindler's List,

Are you fucking kidding me? That would be absolutely awesome. Especially for Schindler's List. I mean, who would take that movie seriously in the first place?

Re:Never found it funny (1)

FuckingNickName (1362625) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055112)

I can see many possible positive interpretations to adding a laughter track to Schindler's List. The Nazis' killing of millions of Jews, gypsies, homosexuals and other deviants[tm] was obviously unacceptable and inhuman (or "very human", if you're appropriately cynical), but Schindler's List is a fictionalisation. Some possible purposes/interpretations might be:

(1) Experimenting with causing discomfort in an audience by juxtaposing happy emotions with ones of horror;

(2) Getting the audience to see things from the power-crazed Nazi PoV, no matter how perverse: to a true Nazi, getting rid of Jews was a a positive, enjoyable, productive, thing, and why not smile and be happy while you're doing what you think is the correct thing?

(3) Questioning the media's exploitation of victims of the Holocaust: was Schindler's List's main mission and/or lasting effect to remind people about the Holocaust, or to make a few media companies richer? Are they laughing at you by publishing this? Couldn't it be a Song for Whoever [youtube.com] ?

Re:Never found it funny (1)

dangitman (862676) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055146)

... why not smile and be happy while you're doing what you think is the correct thing?

Especially when it's springtime.

Re:Never found it funny (1)

FuckingNickName (1362625) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055166)

The branch of the linden is leafy and Green,
The Rhine gives its gold to the sea.
But somewhere a glory awaits unseen...

Fascism is dangerous because it can be made so appealing and positive.

I'm not sure whether this makes me happy or sad for characters like Moss. On the one hand, he'd be completely uninterested in the sort of social ritual that was Nazism. On the other, he might be too singlemindedly unaware to realise the implications of working in the basement of the IBM office which processed the census that was key to efficient execution of the Holocaust.

Re:Never found it funny (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32055550)

godwinned.

Re:Never found it funny (1)

dangitman (862676) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055822)

godwinned.

Is that when God wins? It's not really surprising. He makes the rules, after all.

Favourite? hardly, it's awful (1, Insightful)

petes_PoV (912422) | more than 4 years ago | (#32054786)

I watched one episode of this garbage when it first came out. A few weeks later I accidentally watched a small portion of another episode. Never again. The first one was dire and the second was just as bad.

One-dimensional, cliched characters that portray IT people as social inadequates. Tacky sets and embarrasingly bad plots (well from a sample size of 2) and utterly forgettable dialog. No thanks.

Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful (2, Interesting)

Threni (635302) | more than 4 years ago | (#32054800)

I can confirm that this was (is? Jesus - let it go) a crap comedy, and yes I'm talking about the UK version. Cheap, lazy, easy jokes, of the sort that plagued my childhood every saturday evening.

Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32054822)

I watched one episode of this garbage when it first came out. A few weeks later I accidentally watched a small portion of another episode. Never again. The first one was dire and the second was just as bad.

One-dimensional, cliched characters that portray IT people as social inadequates. Tacky sets and embarrasingly bad plots (well from a sample size of 2) and utterly forgettable dialog. No thanks.

They should cut out the jokes and content and just make it a long list of references to things that make the viewers feel intelligent. They could call it "xkcd: The TV Show".

9:30pm xkcd: The TV Show
Ep. 4 "More White Knightin'"
Jen says something intelligent and profound so that
the female viewers will want to have sex with the
writer. Moss mentions Maxwell's equation.
Writer: Randall Munroe Subtitles 888

Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32054860)

Of course the characters are one-dimensional and cliched. IT Crowd pokes fun at the stereotypes (and not just at the ones about the computer nerds either.) So you don't like over the top British humor. I feel sorry for you.

Forgettable dialog? Have you tried turning it off and on again? You wouldn't steal a car! Peter File. There are some police men here, they say they need to speak to you about irregularities in the pension fund. Memory IS RAM! I have it on good authority: Never ever type Google into Google! This, Jen, is the internet.

4 series to poke fun at stereotypes? (0, Troll)

petes_PoV (912422) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055460)

IT Crowd pokes fun at the stereotypes

You could do all of that in 1 episode and still have time left over to make a comedy programme, too.

To go on for 4 series with one trivial theme (IT people == socially inept == funny) shows a lack of originality and laziness in the writing. Surely anyone with an ounce (or 28.5 grams) of discernment would say "Yes, we've got it. Now what else have you got to make me laugh?" after the first few minutes ... and would have switched over before the end of the half-hour slot. It's only a single "joke" and that the same small number of people are still laughing at it after 4 years of watching it be recycled every episode makes me thing they'll laugh at anything.

Re:4 series to poke fun at stereotypes? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32055622)

Call the whambulance: 0118 999 881 999 119 725 3

Re:4 series to poke fun at stereotypes? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32055704)

Cheers : People living in a bar == drunk == effing funny yay
MASH : docs in Korea == drunk and basically boring life == funny!
Seinfeld : People living in flats == boring life == FUNNY!

Besides, you never really watched IT Crowd, did you? Some of the topics covered in 4 (*SIX* (not 24!) episodes long seasons) : Shoe obsession, privatised emergency services, illegal downloads, smoking restrictions, good guy/bad guy dating, gay musicals, Technological Inaptitude of management ("this is the internet, Jen"), transgender, sexual harassment, ... Not all of it was good, but what was good was generally brilliant.

Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055858)

So you don't like over the top British humor. I feel sorry for you.

Define "over the top". I like some Brit humor and not some others myself.

Forgettable dialog? Have you tried turning it off and on again? You wouldn't steal a car! Peter File. There are some[...]

None of those quotes stand on their own at all. A funny quote is funny in or out of context. If these are the examples of the finest humor in the show, it's certainly not worth watching. Might as well flip on Family Guy, at least their unrelated gags are funny.

I haven't seen the show, but "buh huh it has computers" is not sufficient reason to check it out, either, and nothing anyone has said about it is convincing. Anyone care to try a logical analysis of why this show is funny? It's really not an oxymoron.

Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32054876)

Brilliant. If I had to guess, I'd say you were offended by the programme's portrayal of "IT people as social inadequates", which perhaps means you missed the point a little

Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful (1)

NickFortune (613926) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055026)

Brilliant. If I had to guess, I'd say you were offended by the programme's portrayal of "IT people as social inadequates", which perhaps means you missed the point a little

Possibly. Although satirising the socially inept seems a bit like priding yourself on your skill at boxing against quadriplegics. It's not particularly clever or difficult, at least not unless the person doing it is severely disadvantaged in their own right.

With the IT crowd, I'd hoped for a show to poke some affectionate fun at IT professionals. And for the first couple of shows, I though they might have got it right. But by the second series, the jokes seemed more spiteful than anything, as if they were trying to appeal to the "I hate computers and I hate computer professionals" demographic.

Not exactly a cardinal sin, perhaps. but I'm not surprised to find that the show has less than universal acclaim among IT professionals.

Now if you want a show that got it right, check out "Lab Rats".

Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful (2, Insightful)

FuckingNickName (1362625) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055150)

Although satirising the socially inept seems a bit like priding yourself on your skill at boxing against quadriplegics.

I've demonstrated social ineptitude in the past and I think one of the healthiest things to do about it is to laugh at myself and not take my fuck-up so seriously. Consider social anxiety: this is often caused by people being told that they should behave in a certain way and take trivial social rituals as of high importance, when in fact there's always the option to play along and not really care - or even not play along and not care.

As long as you've played fair and tried your best, who cares how you come across? Laugh at the guys who talk the bullshit talk, and laugh at yourself when you try and fail at it - you're fine and those worth being around will not judge you!

Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful (1)

NickFortune (613926) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055396)

I've demonstrated social ineptitude in the past and I think one of the healthiest things to do about it is to laugh at myself and not take my fuck-up so seriously.

Yeah, I'm not saying we shouldn't laugh at ourselves. I just thought there was something mean spirited about the later episodes in this particular show. Maybe it's a sense of humour failure on my part, but I don't think I would have found that funny regardless of the group it was targeting.

Also ... if you're going to make a satire, pick on the powerful or the wealthy, or the famous. Pick on the guys who believe that the sun does indeed shine out of their backside, and who expect the rest of us to fall down and worship at the altar of their magnificence. Don't pick a couple of pimply social outcases with zero self esteem. It's like pulling wings off a fly.

Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful (1)

sammyF70 (1154563) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055810)

well .. the Internet (s3e4 I think) episode was mostly making fun of share holders and upper management, so you might enjoy it ;)

Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful (1)

socsoc (1116769) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055564)

priding yourself on your skill at boxing against quadriplegics.

I'm really good at that. It's like they don't even know the proper stance!

Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32055676)

boxing against quadriplegics

That would make a funnier TV show.

Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32055160)

Just read it again with a Moss voice.

Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful (1)

petes_PoV (912422) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055332)

I'd say you were offended by the programme's portrayal

No. You can only be offended by things you consider to be true - or containing some truth. This show doesn't contain any elements I recognise from my life in IT (and it's been a long one). It's closer to portraying people with a disability and mocking them for it. If that's what you consider humour, I would suggest you seek help. Or at least, don't go around advertising that you think it's funny.

Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful (1)

sammyF70 (1154563) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055394)

weird. This show contains tons of elements I recognise from my life in IT (and it's been quite long too). What do you find amusing then? Fart jokes?

Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful (1)

socsoc (1116769) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055574)

GP has just never tried turning it off and on again.

Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful (4, Insightful)

dangitman (862676) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055064)

I watched one episode of this garbage when it first came out. A few weeks later I accidentally watched a small portion of another episode. Never again.

If you have no sense of humor, why were you watching a comedy? I mean, how can anybody not enjoy the character Moss? Forgettable dialog? Yeah right. "You there, computer man. Fix My Pants." is not forgettable dialog.

Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful (3, Insightful)

johny42 (1087173) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055070)

One-dimensional, cliched characters that portray IT people as social inadequates.

I'd say The IT Crowd takes these cliches to absurd levels, which actually makes them less cliche and more just parody. I believe that if you see through it, they actually make fun of the cliches you mention it, instead of embracing them.

Now, if you want to see real cliched characters (and storylines), try watching an episode of The Big Bang Theory.

Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful (1)

Hitto (913085) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055190)

Both IT crowd and TBBT have their qualities, sheldon and wolowitz (I can never wear a NES controller belt buckle ever again) remind me more of actual nolife geeks i've met than IT crowd's archetypes.

Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055208)

There's a good reason why certain things become cliché. Being a cliché isn't automatically negative.

FWIW I enjoy both IT Crowd (especially the first few episodes were pure genius) and Big Bang Theory.

Re:Favourite? hardly, it's awful (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32055296)

Is that a WHOOSHing sound that i hear?
Why yes, yes it is.

The whole point of the show is to poke fun at clichés and 1D character personae.

Surely you weren't offended by the portrayal of IT types as idiots?
Tacky sets? That was only the basement set, which was a mess on purpose due to being built around the personality of the characters.
It showed other IT people as perfectly normal people going about their day as well, in perfectly decent sets in office buildings.

You can't form a solid opinion on something with such a short exposure time to it, which you admitted.
All shows also have their "bad" episodes too. Of course, the level of badness is defined by the viewer.
People like some humor, some hate it, blah blah etc.

!funny (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32054790)

Every geek's favourite non-sci-fi show

You have got to be joking because that show certainly isn't, it's about as funny as a wet rag.

funny (0)

dwarfsoft (461760) | more than 4 years ago | (#32054810)

Exactly! Wet rags are Hilarious!

Well... (4, Funny)

dingen (958134) | more than 4 years ago | (#32054812)

At least it's funnier than The Big Bang Theory.

Re:Well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32054910)

this

Re:Well... (4, Insightful)

physicsphairy (720718) | more than 4 years ago | (#32054922)

Yes, but that is also true of just about any other show, including those that appear on CSPAN.

Re:Well... (2, Funny)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055096)

Yes, but that is also true of just about any other show, including those that appear on CSPAN.

I find some perl programs quite amusing. Oh, wait...

Re:Well... (-1, Flamebait)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055010)

You should give it a try; they had an episode with fecal based humour which may speak more to your level of education and wit.

Re:Well... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32055054)

At least it's funnier than The Big Bang Theory.

Thank god.

My roommates like BBT. I saw an episode and it baffled me. It seems more appealing to people who like to pretend they're not geeks, watch lots of TV, and laugh at "real geeks" for being socially inept.

Not my cup of tea.

Re:Well... (2, Interesting)

dingen (958134) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055074)

It seems more appealing to people who like to pretend they're not geeks, watch lots of TV, and laugh at "real geeks" for being socially inept.

Yeah, exactly. It also annoys me the "real geeks" in TBBT don't behave like real geeks at all. For example, in the first episode of TBBT the geeks boast about how many friends they have on MySpace. WTF? That's something a highschool girl would do. A real geek wouldn't be on MySpace in the first place, because they don't like giving up their privacy like that and would tell people who try to lure them into the web 2.0 social networking hype to get off their lawn.

Re:Well... (3, Funny)

dangitman (862676) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055118)

No, real geeks use FriendFace [youtube.com]

Re:Well... (3, Interesting)

sammyF70 (1154563) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055152)

You mean, like this [youtube.com] ?
IT Crowd is more centered on life at the office than TBBT, and is fairly indiscriminating about who it pokes fun at. Sometimes it's the geeks, and sometimes it's the rest ( see the "Jen, this is the internet" [youtube.com] episode). I guess whether you find it funny or not depends a lot about whether you ever worked in such an environment or not. I did, and I love the show for its over the top depiction of stuff that I did experience (or did ).

Always amuses me... (4, Insightful)

91degrees (207121) | more than 4 years ago | (#32054814)

That so many people seem to think there's some sort of objective measure for what is and isn't funny.

Some people like it. Some people don't.

Re:Always amuses me... (3, Funny)

Kenz0r (900338) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055062)

You're wrong! That's not amusing at all!

There was a german remake? (1)

bickerdyke (670000) | more than 4 years ago | (#32054838)

Never heard of it. I guess it was really bad.

Re:There was a german remake? (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32054864)

There was "Das iTeam - Die Jungs an der Maus", which was a crappy shot-by-shot remake. It was really bad.

Re:There was a german remake? (2, Funny)

Dogtanian (588974) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055308)

There was "Das iTeam - Die Jungs an der Maus", which was a crappy shot-by-shot remake. It was really bad.

I don't know why, the Germans normally have an excellent sense of humour [anenglishmanscastle.com] ;-)

Re:There was a german remake? (4, Informative)

sammyF70 (1154563) | more than 4 years ago | (#32054874)

Here [youtube.com] is a sample.

Re:There was a german remake? (1)

timothy (36799) | more than 4 years ago | (#32054920)

Awesome YouTube work there ;) Looks like the Germans got a slightly sexier Jen. Even if it's a lacklustre remake, I wish I had more of that one so I could practice my German a bit ... sit-com comprehension provides its own incentive (laughter).

timothy

Re:There was a german remake? (1)

bickerdyke (670000) | more than 4 years ago | (#32054932)

I guess I should be glad I missed it. But the original seemed quite good.

At least they did something right with "Stromberg".

Re:There was a german remake? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32054890)

Do yourself a favor and forget that you heard of it now. Remember: You can't unsee it! There is no German version of the IT Crowd. LALALALALA

Re:There was a german remake? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32055008)

"LALALALALA"? Don't start infringing on Apple IPs please!

Re:There was a german remake? (2, Funny)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055516)

There was a german remake? Never heard of it. I guess it was really bad.

Yeah, it focuses on an IBM support team in WWII Germany.

Re:There was a german remake? (1)

bickerdyke (670000) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055638)

well.. it worked for "Hogans Heroes"...

WIsh the show had more bits like that piracy ad (3, Interesting)

timothy (36799) | more than 4 years ago | (#32054856)

a) Though it's case-by-case, I've liked more sit-coms than it's smart to admit. British ones, esp.

b) As I just wrote in another comment, laugh tracks are obnoxious, but eh, I overlook them generally. When I was small, I thought that they were all recorded from the "live studio audience," but that's just what they *want* you to think.

c) There's a lot of workplace humor in The IT Crowd that rings true (slightly exaggerated if at all - like managers who don't actually understand the thing they're supposed to "manage," and huge, often willful communication gaps between departments), but I also like the more over-the-top absurdities, like the soul-searching goth (Mason? might have the name wrong) who lives in the back room.

d) All that said, I wish they worked in more wacky sketch-like stuff like the piracy ad linked in the post.

timothy

Re:WIsh the show had more bits like that piracy ad (3, Informative)

mccalli (323026) | more than 4 years ago | (#32054896)

b) As I just wrote in another comment, laugh tracks are obnoxious, but eh, I overlook them generally. When I was small, I thought that they were all recorded from the "live studio audience," but that's just what they *want* you to think.

See above [slashdot.org] . The laughing is real, is recorded in the studio and well...I was alive the last time I checked.

Cheers,
Ian

Re:WIsh the show had more bits like that piracy ad (1)

timothy (36799) | more than 4 years ago | (#32054978)

Ha! Read your other comment just after I posted my laughtrack complaints. Sounds like a really fun experience. I think the only TV show I've ever seen being taped is the 700 Club (religious variety show, I guess would be a fair term). Not so thrilling to me.

Glad to be wrong on that front, though if there's also selective recording / replay of the audience reaction, then I consider myself at least partly right ;)

Of course, from here, you could be a bot ...

timothy

Re:WIsh the show had more bits like that piracy ad (3, Insightful)

mccalli (323026) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055046)

Glad to be wrong on that front, though if there's also selective recording / replay of the audience reaction, then I consider myself at least partly right ;)

One thing that surprised me was the difference between takes. There'd be different styles, sometimes different dialogue (a lot is improvised, at one point Chris O'Dowd was clearly just making it up on the spot and reducing the writer to fits of laughter let alone us in the audience) - the point of the scene stays the same but there's much more variation than I was expecting to see.

Perhaps, if they do cut'n'paste laughter from take to take, that's why it sometimes seems out of place? There were a couple of takes I can think of that were for a purely technical reason (shadow was falling in the wrong place) and they repeated that three or four times. Perhaps if they use laughter from take one where it's fresh to us, but then use video from take four where it's technically right then that's why it sometimes sounds out of place. I've no definite knowledge they're doing this, but it would seem to make sense.

Cheers,
Ian

Re:WIsh the show had more bits like that piracy ad (4, Interesting)

Patch86 (1465427) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055114)

My dear mum went to see an episode being recorded just a few weeks ago. She said that the compère had to ask the studio audience to laugh less, as they didn't want it to sound like an over-the-top laughter track. She said that it was indeed that funny; the audience were in hysterics.

I enjoy the show; its pleasantly surreal, and makes a few low-key geek references which are worth appreciating. Its not my favourite, but I still watch it when its on.

Re:WIsh the show had more bits like that piracy ad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32055616)

do you have a less dear mum also? why the quantitative?

Re:WIsh the show had more bits like that piracy ad (1)

spike1 (675478) | more than 4 years ago | (#32054924)

Think you mean Richmond. He wasn't in series 3.
He got scurvy.

Re:WIsh the show had more bits like that piracy ad (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32054948)

Fun Fact in regard to d) - The guy doing the voice-over on the piracy ad is Peter Serafinowicz (the voice of Darth Maul).

Ob (5, Funny)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 4 years ago | (#32054912)

So they tried turning the show off and then on again?

Re:Ob (1)

A Friendly Troll (1017492) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055222)

So they tried turning the show off and then on again?

Nah, they were still in shock from Jen's destruction of the internet.

Every geek's favourite non-sci-fi show ? (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32054928)

You're kidding right, the prog is unfunny in the extreme and the writer explididly choose not to include any geek humor. For a real geek comedy show see, The Big Bang Theory [wikipedia.org]

Re:Every geek's favourite non-sci-fi show ? (1)

dangitman (862676) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055100)

For a real geek comedy show see, The Big Bang Theory

Are you having a laugh?

Depressing (2, Interesting)

Globe199 (442245) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055102)

As an IT worker, I found the show more depressing than funny. Too many similarities with my life and theirs.

Re:Depressing (1)

socsoc (1116769) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055630)

Thus funny.

Well, my favourite... (3, Informative)

91degrees (207121) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055158)

Assuming we're talking about comedies that are somehow geek related and aren't sci-fi, would be Spaced.

What is IT? (0, Troll)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055310)

What I am starting to notice is that when I talk about IT, I am talking about programmers, developers. But others are thinking about tech-support which I personally put closer to janitors and such. And no, I don't think low of janitors, but there is a difference between the person who keeps the building running and those who run it. Of course as a web developer lots of "real" developers consider me barely worth stepping on.

This show is probably funny if you are in a support role and have to deal with the endless clueless users. However if you are a user with a clue and you ever had to deal with clueless tech support not for support but to get them to do their bloody job, it is not so funny. And of course if you are a clueless user, then you will just find it offensive.

I think the show is "young". It tries to hard. It is like a teenager trying to impress girl by wearing ten different aftershaves at once and buying 100 red roses and a corsage the size of the rainforest. It lacks the flow of older series with more experienced staff. It tries so hard to create stereo-type characters that they lack any normality, any humanity that allows you to sympathize with them, see them as real people, not just caricatures.

Take the bit about the shoes that are to small. It is to extreme, size 8 in 5? And yet all her other clothes are normal. Certainly a woman that vain would also be putting herself through hell with other parts of her body? The gag doesn't fit in its make believe world. And the problem with that is that while the gag may be funny, gags should be short. We got it, the shoe is to small. Haha. NEXT! Stand-up comedians who do gags quickly switch subjets, think the late night tv monologues, it makes no sense for Jay Leno to whine about his pinto because he would never own one, so don't dwell on it.

Longer running comedy stories, need to make the world "believable". That is why Porridge and Only Fools and Horses work so well, the characters are not just a bunch of gags in half an hour, but human beings living a life. A funny one, an unlikely one, but "believable".

The IT Crowd tends to be liked by the kinda people who claim "Every geek's favourite non-sci-fi show" despite clear evidence to contrary.

It is funny, but funny is easy. Good lasting comedy, that is very very hard and the IT crowd ain't it. It is closer to that kids show you really really liked and then your grow up and wonder how you could every tolerate it.

Frankly, I am to old to still crack up about how stupid people can be with computers. Yeah yeah, they don't know how to operate a button. I know, the joke has been done. Move on.

Re:What is IT? (1)

sammyF70 (1154563) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055494)

To be honest, I thought about not writing "Every geek's favourite non sci-fi show" in the summary, but then "IT crowd coming back to the screen" sounds a bit lackluster, don't you think? You just need to check the IMDB boards to notice that it's NOT "Every geek's favourite non sci-fi show".
I worked in all three categories ( maintenance, Web dev and ~real~ programmer (c++ mainly), and I guess you are right that if you worked in IT support, a lot of the situations just make more sense. On the other hand, the show isn't particularly one-sided. It pokes fun at both ends Roy going on a date, Jen being given "Ze Internet"), and I actually liked the "shoe" episode, as it somehow reminded me of previous girlfriends who had fixations on footwear (and the resulting finale with the japanese investor was fun). As with everything, it boils down to a matter of taste.

Re:What is IT? (1)

DannyO152 (544940) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055788)

Bad news, everybody, unlike with "Futurama," the lead sentence does not write itself.

You have my sympathy and it's times like these that I call upon the power of IT, Instant Tautology. If and only if one is a geek, than one's favorite non-sci-fi show is "The IT Crowd." Not your favorite non-sci-fi, not a geek, ipso facto, and please stand over there with the nerds or the norms. Thenk you.

Thinking about comedies, episodes of Monty Python, I Love Lucy, The Mary Tyler Moore Show, WKRP in Cincinnati, SCTV, Seinfeld, Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In have been as funny as the funniest of "The IT Crowd." One wonders if a single person having many months to write 3 hours per season makes a difference when ranking it among situation comedies in which teams of writers had a few weeks to write 10-13 hours. How would one compare "The IT Crowd" to a favorite drama or mini-series?

Then again, it certainly occurs to me that picking apart a harmless bit of hyperbole is tres geeky.

Re:What is IT? (1)

socsoc (1116769) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055650)

What I am starting to notice is that when I talk about IT, I am talking about programmers, developers. But others are thinking about tech-support which I personally put closer to janitors and such

What if it's a small shop and the same people both run the building and keep it running. How does that fit into your uppity view of IT?

Dweebs (1)

hack slash (1064002) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055366)

Great to hear The IT Crowd is returning for a new series, but does anyone know where I can get a copy of the 1995 tv show Dweebs?

Re:Dweebs (1)

socsoc (1116769) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055522)

Call Mr. WB and ask for his archives? Although since only 6 eps aired, they probably threw everything into the bin.

AWESOME (1)

arndawg (1468629) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055404)

I really miss douglas' faaaaaaaaaaaaatheeeeeeeer

"Filter error: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING".(shut it, this really needed caps. ffuuu)

The US Remake (1)

VGPowerlord (621254) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055464)

the original UK one, not the abysmally bad German and US remakes

I don't know about the German remake, but I thought the US remake got canned during the 2008 Writer's Strike.

US Version? (1)

socsoc (1116769) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055514)

There was only a pilot filmed for the US, never aired. The German one only aired 2 episodes. Although the UK version is great, you're not comparing apples to apples subby. You wanna do that? Let's talk the The Office.

Re:US Version? (1)

sammyF70 (1154563) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055714)

heh .. yeah, I only saw the pilot too (obviously). To my great shame, I must confess I never saw any version of The Office. Care to talk about "Life on Mars" ? ;)

Re:US Version? (1)

ThatsNotFunny (775189) | more than 4 years ago | (#32055826)

The first ten minutes of the US version pilot is floating around youtube. It's PAINFUL to watch. It's like kissing your sister.
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