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MechWarrior 4 Free Release Now Available

Soulskill posted more than 4 years ago | from the long-strange-trip dept.

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Mr. Sketch writes with news that the free release of MechWarrior 4 has finally arrived. We've discussed the game in the past when it was announced, and later when its release was held up by Microsoft. Quoting the announcement: "One of the greatest features of MekPak3.1 and of MechWarrior 4: Mercenaries in general, is the ability to customize. MechWarrior always has been about the Mechlab, especially multiplayer. The Mechlab truly distinguishes MW4 from a long list of shooters that have come out in the past 10 years. The ability to create literally thousands of configurations allows the game to continue in popularity over its lengthy life span. Since the Free Release not only comes with the original mechs and weapons of Mercenaries, but also with the Clan and IS Mech Packs and all the Mektek mechs and weapons, here is what you are getting ... for free."

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First (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32078454)

Post! \o/

First fart! (-1)

Disgruntled Goats (1635745) | more than 4 years ago | (#32078476)

*poooooooooooooooooot*

Re:First (-1)

malkir (1031750) | more than 4 years ago | (#32078490)

Holy shit!

Re:First (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32080292)

It needs a fuckload of work. MTX doesn't even boot up correctly for me, Win7 4gb ram. Shitty programming.

Re:First (1)

QuantumLeaper (607189) | more than 4 years ago | (#32080356)

MTX locks up on XP sp3 also.

Re:First (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32082284)

you have to wait...oh AND MAYBE you have to uncheck the "enable pnp" in the configuration.worked for me.

Re:First (2, Interesting)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 4 years ago | (#32083376)

It's not locking up, it's just poorly programmed. It's hanging on the connection attempts, since the MTX servers exploded.

Disconnect your internet when you start it. You'll then have to grab the game's .mtx files elsewhere and manually install in MTX while it is in offline mode.

See here:
http://www.mektek.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=156383 [mektek.net]

http://www.mektek.net/mw4free/torrents/files/mechwarrior4mercenaries.all.to.51.03.01.0017.mtx.torrent [mektek.net]
http://www.mektek.net/mw4free/torrents/files/mechwarrior4mercenaries.51.03.01.0017.to.51.03.01.0018.mtx.torrent [mektek.net]
http://www.mektek.net/mw4free/torrents/files/mechwarrior4mercenaries.51.03.01.0018.to.51.03.01.0020.mtx.torrent [mektek.net]

Not-so-great game now free not-so-great game (4, Funny)

Skyshadow (508) | more than 4 years ago | (#32078500)

I remember playing MW4 and thinking, "you'd have to pay me to keep playing this game".

Now I have proof that I was right.

Re:Not-so-great game now free not-so-great game (1)

nschubach (922175) | more than 4 years ago | (#32078820)

Wasn't MW4 the one where Microsoft went with the weapon slot types instead of a fully customizable mech? If so, does this mod remove some of those asinine restrictions? I know I practically fell in love with MW2. (The original MW2 (Mechwarrior 2), not this new game Modern Warfare 2)

Re:Not-so-great game now free not-so-great game (1)

mobets (101759) | more than 4 years ago | (#32079072)

"went with the weapon slot types instead of a fully customizable mech?"

You mean required you to put missles in your missle rack instead of lasers or some other weapon? I always wonered why the earlier version didn't do that?

Re:Not-so-great game now free not-so-great game (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32079580)

The older Mechwarriors used as directly as possible the game system that the universe is based on, Battletech. In this system, you can put machine guns in your feet, and jump jets in your head.

Re:Not-so-great game now free not-so-great game (3, Informative)

Mycroft_VIII (572950) | more than 4 years ago | (#32080118)

Actually Jump jets are restricted to torso and leg slots.
Also machine guns are tiny compared to a Mech and mostly anti-personal
in use so putting them on the legs (when the 'ankle' is shoulder to head high
on a human) makes some sense.

Mycroft

Re:Not-so-great game now free not-so-great game (2, Informative)

Jesus_666 (702802) | more than 4 years ago | (#32082480)

The somewhat dubious use of spending two crits, one of which is explosive, on as many points of damage nonwithstanding.

Not that that matters in MW4; there, machine guns are actually quite powerful if used in masses. Apart from having ammo problems, a Daishi/Dire Wolf with nothing but machine guns works surprisingly well against pretty much anything.

Re:Not-so-great game now free not-so-great game (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 4 years ago | (#32083398)

This isn't a mod.

It's MW4: Mercenaries [wikipedia.org] with a mechpack installed.

Awesome game now free (3, Informative)

gknoy (899301) | more than 4 years ago | (#32079456)

I didn't play a lot of multiplayer, but as far as Single Player goes, we must have played a different game. I remember MW4 and MW4:Black Knight as Nearly Perfect renditions of my fantasies of piloting giant robots, and MW4:Mercenaries as only a little worse than the previous MWx:Mercenaries was. (I didn't like that there were fewer non-plot missions to play.) The ONLY thing I disliked about MW4 was that the missions expected (and nearly "forced") you to upgrade 'mechs. Mercenaries was less in this direction, but I really enjoyed the dynamics of the Uziel, when it wasn't outclassed by assault 'mechs. Later on, I tried to stay in my Thor as long as possible, even though on the end missions it was almost certainly more effective to be using something like a Daishi loaded up with heat sinks and large lasers.

I loved the slot restrictions, as they forced each chassis to have a "flavor" -- otherwise, I'd do like I did in MW2, MW2:GhostBear, and MW3 and just load up on dual (triple?) PPCs and heat sinks up to my ears. I liked that a Thor vs a Madcat vs an Uziel vs a Catapult was more than merely a difference in tonnage or jump jets, but made an actual tactical difference.

Re:Awesome game now free (5, Informative)

Moryath (553296) | more than 4 years ago | (#32080392)

Also, the slot restrictions were "canon" - they came out of the Solaris VII and Mechwarrior ("roleplaying game") sourcebooks, the same way that the weapon recharge times (otherwise you could fire a gauss rifle every round, period, same as a small laser) did. It was never intended for the tabletop game that a chassis would simply be "here's your tonnage, go nuts"; specific mechs were always supposed to have a flavor and that is important to the game.

Re:Awesome game now free (2, Informative)

tnnn (1035022) | more than 4 years ago | (#32082608)

Solaris VII rules were supposed to be used during "arena" games, not normal multi mech engagements. Mechwarrior series was based on the CBT (Classical BattleTech) board game which allows customizing as well as building new mechs from scratch. While it may lead to creation of some... well... monsters, it's fun and adds to gameplay. Besides, if you simply want to customize a bit, nothing holds you back - you don't have to build a multi PPC behemoth and you can stick to "canon flavors". So what is the point of taking this possibility away (if I recall correctly devs were explaining this as "it's weird to see lasers shooting from LRM racks")?

Ah, and as for small laser firing as often as gauss - keep in mind that in CBT board game 1 turn = 10 seconds. Don't try to imagine 1 turn of small laser fire as a single shot (as a matter of fact, multiple war games use "1 turn of shooting != 1 shot" principle) - it simply means that during one turn small laser will do that much damage and produce some heat, regardless of how many times it really did shoot. The same applies to ammo - 1 ammo round means that a weapon can fire during 1 turn - be it one gauss shell or designers-know-how-many machine gun rounds.
Now that I think about it, I wonder if the fast firing weapons in MW aren't more powerful than in a board game - they fire more often and probably deal the "1 turn damage" during a single shot...

Re:Awesome game now free (1)

stg (43177) | more than 4 years ago | (#32080450)

Yes, I didn't play multiplayer either but loved the single-player missions. I think I still played it through 3-4 years ago...

Every other MechWarrior style game I've ever played after felt childish in comparison.

Re:Awesome game now free (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 4 years ago | (#32083420)

Multiplayer was fun.

Picture this:

CTF map, in city.

Everyone else is using gigantic mechs with cookie-cutter configurations.

I'm in a Raven (one of the smallest, and fastest) with Jump Jets.

hehe, the bastards couldn't ever hit me! I would grab the flag and just tease them.

Re:Awesome game now free (1)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | more than 4 years ago | (#32082724)

PPCs were great, but not ultimate.

I raise you 14 medium pulse lasers. Yes, I can change direction and speed to avoid your incoming phased plasma charges until I'm within range, no you don't have enough armour to withstand more than two salvos on any part of your mech. No matter which one it is.

Yes, 4 salvos will cause my mech to expload, no matter how many heat sinks I have installed.

Re:Awesome game now free (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 4 years ago | (#32083428)

I'll take my Diashi loaded up with the PBX (? the shotgun things)

I knocked an Atlas on it's ass with that. Short range, but one or two salvos to take anyone but a few heavy's out.

Re:Not-so-great game now free not-so-great game (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32079558)

Even if what you said about MW4 being "not so great" is true, I still disagree. I think history has proven that anything released for free is automatically perceived to be much better than the non-free version. I personally hate this double-standard.

So, a correction: "Not-so-great game, now free great game."

Yes, but (2, Funny)

hellop2 (1271166) | more than 4 years ago | (#32078510)

does it run on Linux?

Re:Yes, but (5, Funny)

Dahamma (304068) | more than 4 years ago | (#32079002)

Come now. We all know comments like that are how the Succession Wars started.

Re:Yes, but (1)

deniable (76198) | more than 4 years ago | (#32080316)

Damn Aramis apologists are everywhere.

Re:Yes, but (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32079234)

I was wondering the same thing. Seems to have mixed reviews in the Wine AppDB so I'm guessing it doesn't work very well (usually unless an app is triple-super-duper-platinum+++ rated then it seems to be total crap in Wine; I don't know who does those ratings).

Re:Yes, but (1)

dudpixel (1429789) | more than 4 years ago | (#32081224)

why is parent modded flamebait instead of the "funny" this line gets in every other thread?

Re:Yes, but (1)

thynk (653762) | more than 4 years ago | (#32082102)

does it run on Linux?

http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=3839 [winehq.org] - So... depends on your distro.

Re:Yes, but (2, Interesting)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#32083248)

Not relevant. All of the issues people report there are due to copy protection in the original, so the question is whether the free version has equivalent copy protection. If it works under WINE, I'd like to try it - someone borrowed my MW3 disk a few years back and never returned it.

enolagay (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32078518)

Boom!

Re:enolagay (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32082020)

Evidently, some over-eager moderator doesn't know much history [wikipedia.org] .

Parent should be (slightly) Funny, not Troll.

CAPTCHA: "preempt".

Almost perfect timing (1)

Dan East (318230) | more than 4 years ago | (#32078528)

The timing on this was almost perfect for me. My brother came in from out of state last week, and he's a big fan of MechWarrior 4. So I installed on my laptop from his discs and we did the disc-swapping trick so we could play multiplayer on my lan. Anyway, I searched for the info on the game and saw Microsoft finally approved it for free release last month, but it hadn't been released yet. One week sooner would have been pretty amazing timing for me...

MOD PARENT DOWN (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32078912)

Just because twitter and facebook have made posting inane drivel to the web popular doesn't mean we need to encourage it here. Lets have a higher standard of conversation and keep posts either on-topic or slashbot approved "funny" memes like sharks and grits.

Re:MOD PARENT DOWN (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32080432)

In Soviet Mechwarrior, sharks hot grits Zune!

Re:MOD PARENT DOWN (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32081956)

In Soviet Mechwarrior, sharks hot grits Zune!

I am SO going right out to get that printed on a T-shirt.

CAPTCHA: "functors" -- WTF? That's not even a word.

Microsoft missing an opportunity (0, Troll)

cupantae (1304123) | more than 4 years ago | (#32078534)

What they should be doing is releasing it ONLY for Linux and OS X. That way, they could later mention what shitty games are available for those platforms.
3. Profit

Re:Microsoft missing an opportunity (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32078664)

Yeah good thinking, OS elitism is certainly the way. Just look how successful it did Linux for the exclusive Frozen Bubble and GCompris software!

*groans*

Re:Microsoft missing an opportunity (1)

CarpetShark (865376) | more than 4 years ago | (#32079272)

Linux and OS X. That way, they could later mention what shitty games are available for those platforms.

Oh, I think they play enough shitty games with alternate platforms already.

Re:Microsoft missing an opportunity (2, Interesting)

i.r.id10t (595143) | more than 4 years ago | (#32079788)

I have the original Loki port of one of the mechwarrior games. It played very well on modest hardware with no issues for me.

Re:Microsoft missing an opportunity (1)

DrugCheese (266151) | more than 4 years ago | (#32082144)

Which game did Loki port?? I bought a ton of those back in the day, but don't recall any Mech Warrior.

Re:Microsoft missing an opportunity (1)

Drgnkght (449916) | more than 4 years ago | (#32082228)

Not sure about Mechwarrior, but I do recall that they did one of the Heavy Gear games.

Wow, really? (2)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 4 years ago | (#32078542)

With MW5 in legal hell [wikipedia.org] , this might be the next best reason to go out and buy another joystick.

Re:Wow, really? (1)

Kreigaffe (765218) | more than 4 years ago | (#32079082)

I dug out my old microsoft precision pro. 9 buttons, hat switch, throttle, x/y/z axis.. and it was bought in a *store*.

Mech4's release has really made me realize how far PC gaming has fallen. It's really close to dead compared to where it was 10-15 years ago. So many PC games are just console games ported over..

Re:Wow, really? (1)

Shadow of Eternity (795165) | more than 4 years ago | (#32079810)

I just recently finally buried my old Force Feedback joystick. Yeah, the original one that used a the plugs you see on the back of a computer but never seem to use anymore.

Re:Wow, really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32081282)

You mean the ones that MSCEs plug old Macintosh monitors into? Good times!

Re:Wow, really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32080472)

I have a Steel Battalion controller sitting around that would be great to use on this game. Unfortunately no one has made 64-bit drivers yet. Hopefully the release of MW4 will encourage the driver community to make some.

Re:Wow, really? (1)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 4 years ago | (#32080594)

Could you use 32 bit drivers in XP compatibility mode?

Re:Wow, really? (1)

Vectormatic (1759674) | more than 4 years ago | (#32082208)

oh man, i so wanted steel batallion back in the day, too bad it was way over my piddly budget as a student. They should do a new one for the 360, i imagina a big mech driving game would also be much better sitting behind a HUGE hdtv

BAD SLASHDOT! (2, Funny)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 4 years ago | (#32078586)

It was actually available Friday, but over 100,000 guests logged into Mektek's servers and crashed their website.

MTX, the distribution software they created that works kind of like a blizzard patcher, mixed with a matchmaking system, had a flaw in its design that required the web servers to be up in order for the patched Free version to work.

I don't know if they've fixed that yet, but the website just came back up today (after being down all weekend).

And now its been slashdotted, way to go.

Re:BAD SLASHDOT! (4, Informative)

Mr. Sketch (111112) | more than 4 years ago | (#32079598)

Yeah, I submitted this Friday, but it's only now making it to the front page.

There's a new version of MTX (1.0.3.5) that doesn't require the web servers to be up:
http://mtxgear.mektek.net/mtx/beta/SetupMTX1.0.3.5.exe [mektek.net]

Disclaimer: I'm not affiliated with MekTek in any way. I've just been following the free release since I love the Mechwarrior series, namely MW2: Mercs.

Re:BAD SLASHDOT! (3, Informative)

Rockoon (1252108) | more than 4 years ago | (#32081730)

After having installed this MTX 1.0.3.5, and never having any other MTX thing installed, ever...

The claim that it doesnt require a web server to function is bullshit. Just running it for the first time causes a blocking http request prior to its window having any controls/buttons rendered to it .. since this blocking request isnt responded to in a timely fashion (many minutes!) the blank window goes (Not Responding) because MTX is also apparently single-threaded such that it can never service its message queue. When that request finally gets serviced, well its not done.. it now renders skeletons of the controls it intends to eventually display and then goes on to another blocking request.

It took half an hour to navigate to the area where I can initiate the download of MW4, and its been saying "Contacting MekTek tracker. Please wait 2-3 minutes" for an hour now. It is again in a blocking call, the process and its window is completely hung but using 0% CPU.

The programmer who wrote this MTX thing is a complete moron in terms of writing things that are supposed to do what this MTX thing is supposed to do. There pretty much are no words to describe the level of crap this is, so I instead had to actually describe my observations of its spectacular failure.

Re:BAD SLASHDOT! (3, Interesting)

Mascot (120795) | more than 4 years ago | (#32082438)

That rhymes pretty well with my experience as well.

Though, for me it started going wrong even earlier. During the installation of MTX itself, you're asked for the default directory to install games to. I changed the default to my games directory and hit save. And hit save. And hit save. It just wouldn't close the window. Eventually I X'ed it out. Then I discover some 15 MTX icons in systray, and an equal amount of processes.

After killing off all of those, and starting MTX fresh, I ended up in the cycle you describe. Though I wasn't as patient. After waiting a minute with a skeleton window "not responding", I killed it, uninstalled, and forgot about MW4 for the time being.

Spectacular failure is a good summary indeed. Hopefully their tweaks to the game itself are of a stratospherically higher quality.

Re:BAD SLASHDOT! (1)

Securityemo (1407943) | more than 4 years ago | (#32083596)

I had the exact same experience.

Re:BAD SLASHDOT! (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 4 years ago | (#32083448)

It's not locking up, it's just poorly programmed. It's hanging on the connection attempts, since the MTX servers exploded.

Disconnect your internet when you start it. You'll then have to grab the game's .mtx files elsewhere and manually install in MTX while it is in offline mode.

See here:
http://www.mektek.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=156383 [mektek.net]

http://www.mektek.net/mw4free/torrents/files/mechwarrior4mercenaries.all.to.51.03.01.0017.mtx.torrent [mektek.net]
http://www.mektek.net/mw4free/torrents/files/mechwarrior4mercenaries.51.03.01.0017.to.51.03.01.0018.mtx.torrent [mektek.net]
http://www.mektek.net/mw4free/torrents/files/mechwarrior4mercenaries.51.03.01.0018.to.51.03.01.0020.mtx.torrent [mektek.net]

See this (from my other post). It should at least get the game working.

not impressed (4, Funny)

corbettw (214229) | more than 4 years ago | (#32078694)

If I can't paint the 'mechs on the desk in my garage in my own distinctive palette and scheme, then play with them on my custom-built tabletop and with my custom-made terrain, what's the point? I mean sure, either option will embarrass my wife in front of her friends, but my way will embarrass her in front of her friends' husbands. There ain't no computer game out there that'll do that!

Re:not impressed (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32078740)

If you just explain it to them, they will understand! Be sure to mention the history and background of each mech model.

Re:not impressed (4, Funny)

arcsimm (1084173) | more than 4 years ago | (#32079238)

So you've never met the folks who build their own MechWarrior sim-pits, have you? If you think a nice-looking RPG table is embarrassing, you can't imagine what having a giant robot cockpit in your living room will do to your reputation...

Re:not impressed (2, Insightful)

gknoy (899301) | more than 4 years ago | (#32079722)

On the other hand, if your garage has FOUR of them, the reaction might be exactly the opposite. It'd go from Uncomfortable Awe to "Can I play too?" for a lot of guys, I imagine.

Re:not impressed (3, Funny)

Shadow of Eternity (795165) | more than 4 years ago | (#32079826)

At some point enough switches, buttons, and lights that look military-chic enough can go from creepy and/or pathetic to indescribably awesome.

Re:not impressed (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 4 years ago | (#32083460)

Mouser/Digikey, here I come! I gots me some toggle switches to order!

Re:not impressed (1)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 4 years ago | (#32079854)

I’m sorry? ...but if he does not like climbing in a large rough machine to rip shit apart with gross motor action, then how does he dare calling himself a REAL MAN ? ^^

These guys might like to have a word with him:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=O_NrTW4lfgk [youtube.com]
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cx1XhlPIeEM [youtube.com]
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JLO1YIWQuXE [youtube.com]

Re:not impressed (1)

sexybomber (740588) | more than 4 years ago | (#32080844)

I'll bet such a thing wouldn't cost much more than one of those actual-theater-looking home theaters, but I've admittedly never seen one, so I'm not sure. Anyone got a link? My mental conception of it is pretty bitchin', at least.

Re:not impressed (4, Interesting)

deniable (76198) | more than 4 years ago | (#32079946)

Better yet, the guy who built his kids a Madcat tree-house. [techabsorbed.com]

Re:not impressed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32079572)

Aaaactually... you can using the included dev tools with this release.

That being said, this game doesn't look nearly as good as I remember it looking back in the day. And - anyone else notice that when it was actually released back on Friday that the site went down for the weekend?

Re:not impressed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32080318)

I mean sure, either option will embarrass my wife in front of her friends, but my way will embarrass her in front of her friends' husbands. There ain't no computer game out there that'll do that!

There will be a Sims extension for that.

Cooltown! (2, Funny)

Itninja (937614) | more than 4 years ago | (#32078704)

Finally something worthwhile to use my 50Mbps on! It's legal and everything! Feels good be righteous again.

You insensitive 3lod!? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32078868)

the project 4s a [goat.cx]

Torrent Link (5, Informative)

Krizdo4 (938901) | more than 4 years ago | (#32078898)

First download their mtx client.
Then this site: http://www.pedaltothemetal.com/index.php/news_story/mechwarrior4_free_released.html [pedaltothemetal.com]
was nice enough to repost the torrent file which downloads the mtx that you can use the offline mode of the client to install.

The link is labeled: Downloadmechwarrior4mercenaries.all.to.51.03.01.0017.mtx.torrent

1073 Seeders / 2154 Peers
tracker runs on mektek.net

Note: The client runs crazy slow after install. First thing I do is click Offline Mode.

Re:Torrent Link (3, Informative)

Mashiki (184564) | more than 4 years ago | (#32081308)

Grab the torrent, get a client that supports DHT and peer finding. You'll find 8-10x the number of people, or goto ISOhunt, or goto usenet(a.b.games, and alt.b.games.old) it's been posted there as well.

WARNING (-1, Troll)

Itninja (937614) | more than 4 years ago | (#32079112)

Within 5 minutes of installing the MTX app and allowing it through my firewall, I started getting TrendMicro warnings about mysterious URLS that were attempting to connect to my PC. I run Bittorrent and have never gotten these....is there something untoward going on here?

Re:WARNING (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32079298)

Details please?

Re:WARNING (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32079548)

URLs connecting to your PC. Sure.

MTX client sucks. (5, Informative)

voodoowizard (1557839) | more than 4 years ago | (#32079222)

For those of you that hate the MTX client. Download the torrents and rename the extension from .mtx to .zip No need to "install", the zip opens up to a functional game. Just unzip to where you want it and then apply the patches manually(kind of like oblivion/fallout3 mods). Here are the torrents if you wish to skip the MTX client hell. (via reddit) Main file: http://www.pwned.com/dz/mechwarrior4mercenaries.all.to.51.03.01.0017.mtx.torrent [pwned.com] Patches: http://www.pwned.com/dz/mechwarrior4mercenaries.51.03.01.0018.to.51.03.01.0020.mtx.torrent [pwned.com] http://www.pwned.com/dz/mechwarrior4mercenaries.51.03.01.0017.to.51.03.01.0018.mtx.torrent [pwned.com] I have not tried this yet but there is a mod for the game Crysis that pretty much turns it into a MW game. http://www.mechlivinglegends.net/ [mechlivinglegends.net] Probably still a bit buggy but I am sure it looks a lot better.

Re:MTX client sucks. (2, Informative)

game kid (805301) | more than 4 years ago | (#32079770)

I have to agree on the "sucks". .net apps can be slow (to load the requisite libs and such) but mtx takes a long time to start up and get active, and there are GUI hangs that happen more than half the time, neither with actual processor jump. Both suggest failed connects (or some other background messes) that aren't getting multithreaded right.

Good luck to MekTek, but I'll be trying this method [slashdot.org] for now.

Re:MTX client sucks. (1)

hellop2 (1271166) | more than 4 years ago | (#32083100)

Oh, it's a .NET app? Maybe I have to install .NET first....

Re:MTX client sucks. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32081954)

Yay! I posted the instructions to turn it into a zip on reddit. This is the second place I've stumbled across it now. You're the only one to reference you found it on reddit though. :)

MWLL sucks as well (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32082206)

I was really looking fwd to the mechwarrior living legends pack for cyrsis. Until it came out.

Holy hell thats a pile of crap. And the people running the thing seem to be a bunch of choads.. "oh YOU cant get it to run perfectly? you must be fucking stupid!"

Their support and documentation is epic fail. They seem to blame any problem at all on crysis itself and not the mod. I mean hell. They don't even have an installer package. You're copying files around manually... ^^

It took quite a while to get it to run. And it does LOOK nice. But theres so much mising. And the servers are all pretty much empty. Prolly due to them being choads.

As for this pack. Thanks for the torrent links. Why in the hell would they do anything but a torrent release right off the top? Anything else is just silly. Bit torrent is made for stuff just like this.

Re:MTX client sucks. (1)

hellop2 (1271166) | more than 4 years ago | (#32083092)

I unzipped as you said on XP, and got an error: "The procedure * could not be located in the DLL mtshellmq.dll"

Also, could not figure out how to install the patches as there's no executable and just a bunch of files named 1, 2, 3, 4.. etc...

Will have to try the MTX client thing, I suppose.

Re:MTX client sucks. (3, Informative)

s13g3 (110658) | more than 4 years ago | (#32083200)

MW:LL (Mechwarrior: Living Legends) isn't all THAT buggy, for a beta. It's still in constant development since the beta release in Dec. 2009 with a very committed and talented dev. team and updates are released fairly regularly. The game is highly playable even as it stands, and will do nothing but get exponentially better as time goes by.

Re:MTX client sucks. (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 4 years ago | (#32083472)

It's not locking up, it's just poorly programmed. It's hanging on the connection attempts, since the MTX servers exploded.

Disconnect your internet when you start it. You'll then have to grab the game's .mtx files elsewhere and manually install in MTX while it is in offline mode.

See here:
http://www.mektek.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=156383 [mektek.net]

http://www.mektek.net/mw4free/torrents/files/mechwarrior4mercenaries.all.to.51.03.01.0017.mtx.torrent [mektek.net]
http://www.mektek.net/mw4free/torrents/files/mechwarrior4mercenaries.51.03.01.0017.to.51.03.01.0018.mtx.torrent [mektek.net]
http://www.mektek.net/mw4free/torrents/files/mechwarrior4mercenaries.51.03.01.0018.to.51.03.01.0020.mtx.torrent [mektek.net]

"Official" instructions. Just in case the .torrents on that domain are bad and/or die.

MTX + Privacy Issues (4, Informative)

mmaniaci (1200061) | more than 4 years ago | (#32079302)

If you are a tinfoiler with a specialization in network privacy, you might want to research the distributors of MW4, MekTek [mektekdev.com] , before you jump in and play. Part of their business is "Geospacial Research Technology," which means this game will probably be doing some phoning home with information about you. I personally don't mind this and think a free game is well worth some targeted advertising (especially when it is in plain view [mektekdev.com] ). Hhuzzah for companies that can evolve their business practice!

Re:MTX + Privacy Issues (1)

Arkem Beta (1336177) | more than 4 years ago | (#32080640)

It sounds more like they use the MW4 3D engine to visualize GIS data. If they instead talked about IP Geolocation rather than "GIS navigation" I might believe that they're in advertising.

Re:MTX + Privacy Issues (2, Insightful)

djdevon3 (947872) | more than 4 years ago | (#32081262)

Sounds more like they have govt sub-contracts for terrain mapping technology. What if any info would it phone home? Unless you have packetized proof of what it's supposedly doing you're not helping and only speculating (which I can do about Nellie, Big Foot, and other stuff).

Add-ons (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32079754)

Does it come with the Free Lunch add-on pack? -- anon cow herd

Earthsiege 2Another Oldie but Goodie (1)

Game_Ender (815505) | more than 4 years ago | (#32080016)

I always liked Earthsiege 2 [wikipedia.org] because I felt it was even more focused on building your mech, and piloting it. Much less like a shooters with robot, and more like a "Mech Sim". Also as the campaign progressed you assembled you built new stronger mechs from the scrap captured, it was sweet.

Re:Earthsiege 2Another Oldie but Goodie (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32080364)

I always liked Earthsiege 2 [wikipedia.org] because I felt it was even more focused on building your mech, and piloting it. Much less like a shooters with robot, and more like a "Mech Sim". Also as the campaign progressed you assembled you built new stronger mechs from the scrap captured, it was sweet.

To this day I've yet to find a game that immersed me like Starsiege aka Earthsiege 3. Between the mini-novel manual, the between firefight news updates and communications and the ability to then see all those events from the other side made an experience that left me cold to MW4.

Re:Earthsiege 2Another Oldie but Goodie (2, Interesting)

Lehk228 (705449) | more than 4 years ago | (#32081544)

mechwarrior 3 had you scrounging parts from fallen enemies, and what parts dropped depended on how you killed them, so the best way to kill was to blow off the legs since you probably already have enough heat sinks and jump jets anyways, the weapons and electronics kits were more valuable.

Re:Earthsiege 2Another Oldie but Goodie (1)

Jedi Alec (258881) | more than 4 years ago | (#32082626)

Ahhhh, Earthsiege 2.

Where because in mission 44 you blew up something, you'd get an instant game over in mission 47 no matter how many times you tried to restart.

Flying the Razor was fun though, really made those plasma's shine...

Part of the delay might have been the MechPacks... (1)

UnknownSoldier (67820) | more than 4 years ago | (#32080370)

Cyberlore Studios did the "original" Mercenaries and MechPacks for FASA / Microsoft. Since Cyberlore is no longer around maybe there was difficulty in tracking down who owned the licenses...

Can someone fix the bug where you put _no_ heatsinks on a mech, and your mech self-suicides from a heat over-flow bug. :-)

No "games available" in MTX (1)

JSBiff (87824) | more than 4 years ago | (#32080742)

So, I downloaded MTX, installed, launched it. It seemed to take 5 minutes for MTX just to launch, but then the "Available Games" list is just empty (I'm guessing their server is so submarine right now, it can't even send me the list of available games for download)? Any suggestions as to how I can get the file list for MTX(or if someone else is 'mirroring' the .torrent files)?

Re:No "games available" in MTX (1)

Ihmhi (1206036) | more than 4 years ago | (#32080896)

Same for me, it just crashed and then ran slow as shit.

Big Fucking Deal (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32081438)

Is the license GPL V3? No? Then why the fuck is it on $lashdot? Oh, I forgot $lashdot is now pwned by M$ now. All the more reason to stick with Boycott Novell rather than using M$ pwned $lashdot.

--
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk
Friends do assist M$ addicted friends in committin suicide.

MTX is a P2P Torrent Program (2, Informative)

djdevon3 (947872) | more than 4 years ago | (#32081524)

OK so why install this MTX program if it's just a P2P torrent app that works god awfully slow. I'd rather just have a torrent link and download with my own client. This is some SERIOUS BS. This is exactly what torrent programs are for, WTF over?

Official Torrent Download HERE (5, Informative)

djdevon3 (947872) | more than 4 years ago | (#32081642)

Torrents:
http://www.mektek.net/mw4free/torrents/fil...017.mtx.torrent [mektek.net]
http://www.mektek.net/mw4free/torrents/fil...018.mtx.torrent [mektek.net]
http://www.mektek.net/mw4free/torrents/fil...20.mtx.torrrent [mektek.net]

Here are the official files from mektek. You can skip the bullshit MTX program to download them. Get the torrents using your fav p2p program (bitcomet, utorrent, etc..) Then launch MTX and choose Open File (*.mtx)

"Core" file fix link: http://mtxgear.mektek.net/mtx/fixes/mw4/0020/core.zip [mektek.net]

Missing .dll files? Try these: http://www.mektek.net/forums/index.php?act...st&id=57250 [mektek.net]
Put them in your Mercs root directory.

In order to play you will have to setup Port Forwarding rules if you have a router.
For TCP both inbound and outbound: 47624
For TCP and UDP both inbound and outbound: 2300-2400
Try both UPnP Enabled and UPnP Disabled on your router.

Where to put mtx file (2, Informative)

djdevon3 (947872) | more than 4 years ago | (#32081820)

Once you've downloaded the 017 mtx file (other two are patches):
Move the mtx files here: C:\Program Files\mektek.net\MTX\temp\games

Then open up the MTX program and do the Open File command.
That will FINALLY install the game.

In my opinion this whole freebie deal has too many steps to go through. The MTX program is a hunk of shit to begin with. Avoid using it as much as possible by downloading the torrents separately.

Re:Official Torrent Download HERE (2, Informative)

djdevon3 (947872) | more than 4 years ago | (#32081842)

Re:Official Torrent Download HERE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32082862)

http://www.mektek.net/forums/index.php?act...st&id=57250 - This link seems to be broken. Yes, both the link and the description.

This gives my coding some perspective... (1)

volcan0 (1775818) | more than 4 years ago | (#32081982)

Wow. If I ever hear again that my code looks like crap, I am just gonna have the other person install and try the MTX thingy. It really put "bad code" into perspective....

Happy to see it, release horribly mismanaged (0, Flamebait)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 4 years ago | (#32083492)

FTFS, We are very aware that some of you are having problems using MTX to download and install the free release of Mechwarrior4: Mercenaries. We are currently preparing a self extracting executable to install the game without using MTX.

This new release will require a new download, but should alleviate any of the issues of installing via MTX. WTF? I've been downloading this fucking torrent for two days now. I'm grateful for this release, but this is just abusive.

By all accounts the new launcher is total shit, too. As in, "how could they think this was acceptable". And they didn't bother to upload the torrent anywhere, so I had to get the file from some other user via the forums.

The server exploding was just the icing on the cake. Using one of the many large download services for this release would have been a no-brainer. Hosting the torrent file through a cache like coral, likewise. Yet, apparently no brain was involved... Again, I'm grateful for all the time and effort spent on the game, and I only wish some brainpower had been spent on the release.

Re:Happy to see it, release horribly mismanaged (1)

Rockoon (1252108) | more than 4 years ago | (#32083644)

How the hell id it ever got to a version "1.x" state is beyond me. No rational person would even call that thing an alpha.
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