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Android Sales Surpass iPhone Sales

Soulskill posted more than 4 years ago | from the battle-for-second-place dept.

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gollum123 writes with this excerpt from VentureBeat: "Smartphones based on Google's Android mobile operating system outsold Apple's iPhone in the US during the first quarter of 2010, according to a report by research firm The NPD Group. The data places Android, with 28 percent of the smartphone market [last quarter], in second place behind RIM's Blackberry smartphone market share of 36 percent. Apple now sits in third place with 21 percent. NPD points to a Verizon buy-one-get-one-free promotion for all of its smartphones as a major factor in the first-quarter numbers. Verizon saw strong sales for the Motorola Droid and Droid Eris Android phones, as well as the Blackberry Curve, thanks to its promotional offer. Verizon launched a $100 million marketing campaign for the Droid when it hit the market in November 2009, which likely contributed to strong sales in the first quarter as well." Preston Gralla notes that it's not all bad news for Apple; this report could help their case in upcoming antitrust discussions.

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Apple (0, Troll)

sopssa (1498795) | more than 4 years ago | (#32160784)

Apple now sits in third place with 21 percent.

And even less worldwide with mobile phone sales - where the original innovators like Nokia dominate and Apple is far away from dominating the market. It's good to see theres some sense in the US too.

I think this same thing will happen to iPad too. It will sell good at first, Jobs will make the claims that they cannot manufacture enough products for everyone to build up the hype, and then it will quickly fall down and die.

That is how quick marketing works. Microsoft wouldn't had built the Windows brand if they just went for quick sales without thinking long term. There's a reason why Windows is still 95% desktop share, while Mac OSX is only 4%

Re:Apple (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32160836)

There's a reason why Windows is still 95% desktop share, while Mac OSX is only 4%

That reason has more to do with inviting CEOs and CIOs to important industry events (and social functions) far away from home in very sunny hotels.

Re:Apple (4, Informative)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 4 years ago | (#32160916)

There's a reason why Windows is still 95% desktop share, while Mac OSX is only 4%

Investment in existing software plays a huge roll in that. Smartphones don't have that issue (though a very small percentage of people have spent a ton on app downloads).

Re:Apple (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32160930)

Is this Android as in ALL android devices or just phones?

I cant wait for option 3.

Option 1: Locked down fisher price phone that wont let you fart without His Jobsiness's permission. (Iphone)
Option 2: Much more open phone that comes with spying baggage that monitors every fart. (aNdroid)
Option 3: A smart phone that doesn't expect me to be a falsebook/twatter obsessive and just works as a smart phone with some computing & browsing (and farting if I choose) capabilities.

Re:Apple (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32160980)

Maemo?

Re:Apple (1)

turgid (580780) | more than 4 years ago | (#32160992)

Option 3: A smart phone that doesn't expect me to be a falsebook/twatter obsessive and just works as a smart phone with some computing & browsing (and farting if I choose) capabilities.

Keep taking the pills.

Re:Apple (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32161110)

Option 3 would be the Nokia N900 running Maemo (or its successor), I would think Thought about it myself, but hate the keyboard and went with a rooted HTC Desire.

Re:Apple (1)

linhares (1241614) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161120)

"If you see huge sales numbers, they blew it"

Re:Apple (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32161038)

That reason has more to do with inviting CEOs and CIOs to important industry events (and social functions) far away from home in very sunny hotels.

And close to brothels. don't forget the brothels.

Proof that being more open = more sales (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32161008)

get that inta ya apple fn boys

Re:Apple (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32161064)

I see. So it's because the Mac was built for quick sales; and Windows was built for long-term quality. Thanks for setting the record straight.

Re:Apple (1, Offtopic)

DarkKnightRadick (268025) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161192)

I see. So it's because the Mac was marketed for quick sales; and Windows was marketed for long-term sales. Thanks for setting the record straight.

FTFY

Re:Apple (1)

L3370 (1421413) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161076)

Does anyone know the profitability of Android OS?

How much money has Google made with having Android on all the phone platforms? How much money has been made by Apple Inc. selling all their iphone's?

Re:Apple (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32161188)

How is it relevant ?
The goodness of something doesn't rely on the amount of money you make out of it.

Re:Apple (3, Insightful)

Mascot (120795) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161220)

Yeah, the iPhone was certainly a blip that faded into obscurity after a few months on the market....

Seriously, 21% market share years after launch is hardly defined as "quickly fall down and die".

Not saying the iPad will fare as well. The iPhone was a game changer when it was released. It filled a desperate need in the market (a smartphone that wasn't a freakin pain to use).

The iPad however is trying to _create_ a market. That's a lot more difficult. Everybody immediately recognized the usability of the iPhone; hardly anybody has a clue what need in their life (beyond "oooh shiny!") the iPad might sate.

Also, when the iPhone came out, it took a while for Android do show up and match it. Android's here now, and tablets running it are already starting to appear. Though I'm guessing it'll be another 6 months before any really good ones start appearing.

Unless people have decided there's no market for these devices by then (in which case they'll all quietly vanish), I still suspect the iPad will do fine. It was first to the table, plugs into Apple's eco system, and has the app store.

Re:Apple (2, Interesting)

BasilBrush (643681) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161306)

hardly anybody has a clue what need in their life (beyond "oooh shiny!") the iPad might sate.

1 million sales is the first month is far from "hardly anybody". Particularly as that figure is limited by supply - they had to delay launch in non-US territories because US sales were higher than predicted.

Re:Apple (1)

Optic7 (688717) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161352)

Your reply doesn't disprove the GP's point.

surprising? (2, Insightful)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 4 years ago | (#32160816)

I, for one, am shocked, that many products from several sources on various carriers have collectively outsold a single product available on a single carrier that doesn't even have the most market share. Utterly amazing, isn't it? /sarcasm

Re:surprising? (1)

calmofthestorm (1344385) | more than 4 years ago | (#32160844)

Mindshare and pressshare are magical things.

Re:surprising? (3, Insightful)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 4 years ago | (#32160872)

yeah, but I'm not switching to AT&T just to get an iPhone. No one I know but the two people with iPhones has AT&T, the coverage sucks most of the places I am most of the time, etc. Is the iPhone cool? Sure. Is it switch to AT&T cool? Hell no.

Re:surprising? (2, Informative)

steelfood (895457) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161024)

To be fair, AT&T has incredible 2G coverage. You might have trouble making calls in population centers, but they do cover as much of the remote and rural as Verizon.

It's their 3G that's sorely lacking, which for smartphones is a problem, but not for phones under ordinary data-less plans.

Re:surprising? (2, Insightful)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161178)

The problem, however, is that the vast majority of the population lives in urban centers. Also, the percentage of the population that can afford smartphones is larger in urban population centers than in rural areas. Which is a GREAT deal if you're of the tiny, tiny fraction of the population that both lives in remote rural areas, have good reception, and can afford an iPhone.
 
My technophobe mother just bought a jailbroken iPhone off ebay to use with her tmobile account

Re:surprising? (1)

TooMuchToDo (882796) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161050)

THIS! I wanted an iPhone, but wouldn't touch AT&T so I got a Nexus One on T-Mobile (~17Mbps 3G uncongested network = Awesome). Now I'd like to get a 3G iPad, but again, only on AT&T (yes, yes, I know it's not locked and I can put a T-Mobile SIM in it, but I won't get 3G speeds). Instead, I'll wait for an Android tablet from Google.

Re:surprising? (5, Interesting)

bkaul01 (619795) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161090)

I dunno ... I have AT&T and I generally still have 1-2 bars of signal in places where my friends with iPhones drop coverage. I think it's more a sucky antenna issue than a bad coverage issue, at least around here.

Re:surprising? (2, Funny)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 4 years ago | (#32160926)

Mindshare and pressshare are magical things.

They pale into insignificance compared to assshare.

Three Ss in sucesssion? is that permisssible?

Re:surprising? (1, Funny)

xaxa (988988) | more than 4 years ago | (#32160956)

Mindshare and pressshare are magical things.

They pale into insignificance compared to assshare.

Three Ss in sucesssion? is that permisssible?

Sssh, you.

Re:surprising? (1)

sznupi (719324) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161226)

One would hope magical thinking would greadually fade away with time, in places where it's still present.

Re:surprising? (1)

jo42 (227475) | more than 4 years ago | (#32160882)

It's magical! It's Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious!!

And none of those devices run Flash natively. Whaddafugdyaknow...

Re:surprising? (4, Insightful)

ogm (1233626) | more than 4 years ago | (#32160918)

When a company makes a business decision to be sole manufacturer of a product, and not to license it to anybody, it is not a surprise that a relatively open product out-sells it. Even when that single product happens to have at least 10 similar yet different versions.

Re:surprising? (5, Funny)

rainmouse (1784278) | more than 4 years ago | (#32160962)

Apple sales reps will be boycotting mobile phone shops dressed in grey hoodies advising people "These are not the droids you are looking for."

Re:surprising? (2, Interesting)

Alien1024 (1742918) | more than 4 years ago | (#32160974)

I don't live in the US. Isn't it perfectly possible to buy an unlocked iPhone there and use it on whatever network the phone supports...? Wow

Re:surprising? (1)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161094)

There is somewhat of a problem with the whole AT&T being pretty much the only GSM carrier in the US. I think T-Mobile might also be GSM, but I'm not sure. T-Mobile is a totally ghetto carrier, and I'd go back to having a land line before switching to them. Everything else is on CDMA. I've heard rumblings that the 3GS is supposed to be dual-band CDMA/GSM, but whether or not its actually usable is another story. But, basically, for an unlocked iPhone to be of any use, it'd have to support 3G CDMA, like BlackBerry or Droid on Verizon

Re:surprising? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32161350)

I use an unlocked Iphone without AT&T and am quite happy with it. I use Iwireless (T-mobile affiliate), but no 3G till this summer. Even ATT didn't have 3G in my area until recently.

Re:surprising? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32161376)

Yes and no for the same reason you cannot buy the Google Nexus for TMobile and use it with full functionality on AT&T. Their 3G networks are on different frequencies and the devices only support the frequency for one carrier.

Re:surprising? (2, Insightful)

KharmaWidow (1504025) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161012)

Seriously. One phone on one carrier has 21% of the market while, while a dozen other phones on several different carriers have 28% of the market... Many, they had to give away for free!

I think Apple still wins. And definitely AT&T wins since it sells Apple, Android, and BlackBerry.

Re:surprising? (0)

L3370 (1421413) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161162)

Yes...Great news hearing their android marketshare has increased. Now compare profitability... Has that changed any?

Re:surprising? (4, Insightful)

fluffernutter (1411889) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161276)

Why would any customer care if it is profitable or not? The key question for the customer is if it is SUSTAINABLE and I think with Android it definitely is.

Re:surprising? (2, Informative)

sznupi (719324) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161182)

By your logic, a mobile OS with, say, 98% of marketshare would "lose" to Apple if that 98% was uniformly distributed across 100 devices, and Apple had only 1%.

Wow, iFanboys Are On Message Today! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32161256)

"Many, they had to give away for free!"

Looks like every Hipster Douchebag Apple fanboy's day went like this:

1. Wake up in their Apple logo jammies

2. Read the morning news

3. Pee their jammies in reaction to Google dumping Apple into third place in cellphone sales

4. Go cry in their pillows for an hour

5. Frantically read the Apple faithful messageboards for the damage control talking points

6. Sit around all day spewing the same garbage talking points hoping to spin the news and make it go away

What a bunch of fucking losers. No wonder everyone hates Apple and its pathetic fans.

Re:surprising? (2, Interesting)

C_Kode (102755) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161056)

Why sarcasm? Apple put themselves in this position. Just like Google put themselves in the same position with the Nexus One. Of course, Google didn' lock themselves out of other Smartphone markets the way Apple did. Greed can make you a lot of money, but it can also hamper you in the worst possible way.

Apple wants complete and utter vendor lock-in. If it wants that, it will remain forever only a small niche market. Even if it produces great products.

Re:surprising? (1)

alta (1263) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161126)

Yes, and considering that many android devices are going for 'free', yet people still are willing to pay a pretty penny to get into an iphone, I don't think apple's loosing out too much here.

Re:surprising? (1)

masdog (794316) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161248)

But they're not really going "for free." You're paying for it, but you're paying for it over the life of the contract and data plan instead of a lump sum up front. I think the AT&T now uses this model with the newer iPhones as well, but not to the same extent as other carriers with other smartphones.

Re:surprising? (1)

SchroedingersCat (583063) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161326)

Yeah, like WinMo and Palm from several sources on various carriers are outselling iPhone as well. But you are right, it is not surprising at all - majority of people do not like walled gardens after all.

Re:surprising? (1)

fermion (181285) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161346)

I am amazed that the iPhone does so well as the survey appears to be biased to a provider that does not even sell the iphone.

Verizon buy-one-get-one-free promotion for all of its smartphones as a major factor in the first quarter numbers.

NPD's data comes from self-reported online consumer surveys -- not actual sales numbers -- which means there's the potential for some difference.

Given that everyone wants an iPhone, some may say they have one even if they never get closer than their daily visit to the ATT store. OTOH, since Verizon is giving smart phones away in an effort to inflate the non-Apple smart phone numbers, it it not surprising that the phones giving away for free are surpassing the fantasy phones that one has to pay for.

Re:surprising? (1)

rev_sanchez (691443) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161364)

Apple chose to only sell under one carrier and while the iPhone is clearly a very successful product they risk losing developers to a platform with more customers and a less obnoxious development situation.

Unpossible! (4, Funny)

denzacar (181829) | more than 4 years ago | (#32160822)

Or should that be iMpossible?

Re:Unpossible! (1)

CannonballHead (842625) | more than 4 years ago | (#32160910)

in light of the recent slashdot story.... vimpossible!

Re:Unpossible! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32161284)

Apple wants you to switch... over to newspeak. doubleplus unpossible.

I bet iPhone will be back on top this quarter (5, Insightful)

CyberBill (526285) | more than 4 years ago | (#32160854)

Apple is getting ready to release a new iPhone in the next few months. I'm sure this kind of regular product cycle makes consumers not want to upgrade for the quarter before a new release. I know I'm going to skip the 3GS and wait for the "4" or whatever the new one is called.

Re:I bet iPhone will be back on top this quarter (1)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 4 years ago | (#32160946)

Apple is getting ready to release a new iPhone in the next few months.

After having seen the next version "leak" I'm certainly holding off replacing my 3G until it's available.

Re:I bet iPhone will be back on top this quarter (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32160982)

And you know this for certain ... because you're a huge Apple fanboi.

Bzzzttt! - iDamageControl Fail (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32161100)

The piece of crap iPhone has been losing marketing share for two straight quarters now.

Apple fanboys better pray that joke 'prototype' iPhone isn't real. That dud sure as hell is no Android killer.

Re:I bet iPhone will be back on top this quarter (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32161296)

Iphone HD

doesnt mean anything (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32160860)

it only means people are buying more androids iphone is still the better phone tho...

Re:doesnt mean anything (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32160912)

what are you saying tho.....

This has nothing to do with (1)

BondGamer (724662) | more than 4 years ago | (#32160862)

Waiting for the next iPhone coming in a month which everyone knows about due to the leak.

LOL, Fanboy Spin (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32161160)

Apple has been losing marketshare since the fourth quarter of 2009.

Spin harder retard.

Consumers simply don't want Apple outdated cellphone OS and crap hardware when there are so many better phones to chose from.

Re:LOL, Fanboy Spin (4, Insightful)

masdog (794316) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161300)

Or that the iPhone is an inferior product in the Enterprise market. Or that people don't like dealing with the AT&T network. There could be a million different reasons for this.

I TOLD YOU SO! (0, Flamebait)

ElectricTurtle (1171201) | more than 4 years ago | (#32160874)

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Who's laughing now all you Apple fanbois! Oh yeah, Google's growth isn't sustainable [slashdot.org] . Sustain this , bitches!

(Sits back and waits for the karma burn.)

Re:I TOLD YOU SO! (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32160936)

> (Sits back and waits for the karma burn.)

Yes, that karma burn is going to have nothing to do with your statement objectively actually being flamebait. It adds nothing at all to the discussion. Even people that agree with you that it was unavoidable that Android phones were going to surpass iPhones can at most ignore your post. There's nothing interesting, informative or insightful about it.

Maybe just don't post shit next time.

Re:I TOLD YOU SO! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32161088)

Who are you replying to? /me looks around inquisitively.

Re:I TOLD YOU SO! (-1, Flamebait)

ElectricTurtle (1171201) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161122)

This is what the 'Parent' button is for.

Re:I TOLD YOU SO! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32161362)

Who are you replying to? /me looks around inquisitively again.

Re:I TOLD YOU SO! (-1, Flamebait)

ElectricTurtle (1171201) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161104)

Maybe your tiny AC brain is too small to get it the first time: I know it's a flamebait post that contributes virtually nothing. That's why I expect it to get modded down and announced said expectation. I have more karma than Ghandi, so I don't fucking care. Sometimes I just say what I want regardless of somebody else's approval or valuation!!1!one! ZOMG! Shocking! I know.

Fucking ACs.

Re:I TOLD YOU SO! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32161096)

node 3 is probably the biggest Apple fanboi on slashdot. Take his comments with a grain of salt.

Good news! (2, Interesting)

Bearwhale (1808530) | more than 4 years ago | (#32160888)

I for one have an iPhone and I cannot tell you how much I wish it were an Android. Hopefully, the 'Droid can come out with a version that beats Apple's 4G series that are approaching the market.

Hipster Douchebags On Suicide Watch (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32160902)

Poor babies.

To have so much of their pathetic self worth wrapped up in a single company and crappy and outdate cellphone.

If Google keeps kicking the crap out of Apple in cellphones sales we're going to end up with a Jim Jones style mass suicide event. Only this time it will be Steve Jobs in the place of Jim Jones, Starbucks in the place of Guyana, Hipster Douchebags in the place of Peoples Temple members.

Re:Hipster Douchebags On Suicide Watch (0, Troll)

binarylarry (1338699) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161214)

We can only hope.

Anti-trust (2, Insightful)

Fallen Kell (165468) | more than 4 years ago | (#32160928)

this report could help their case in upcoming antitrust discussions.

Or just as easily hurt it. As the report shows a big part of the sales was on Verizon network, which is a market Apple does not exist on. A large portion of those sales "might" have been for Apple's product had it be available on the Verizon network.

Re:Anti-trust (1, Insightful)

ducomputergeek (595742) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161108)

How is it Apple's fault when Verizon is deploying a network technology that virtually none of the rest of the world uses (CDMA)? GSM is in more places world wide and the two GSM carriers in the US are T-Mobile and AT&T. And between the two AT&T has better coverage.

Re:Anti-trust (1)

contrapunctus (907549) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161242)

Also, AT&T and T-Mobile use different 3G frequencies so you can't just switch between the two and keep 3G on the same phone (Edge will work fine though).

Cool, but .. (4, Interesting)

Weezul (52464) | more than 4 years ago | (#32160934)

Android phones are not as open as Maemo/MeeGo phones. Andoird could have been way cooler if Google have picked up Maemo instead of starting from scratch using Java. That said, I don't mind that all the mobile games targeted for Android should eventually run on Maemo.

(Random text inserted at the end of the message to allow mouse chicks on text in Shashdot's edit window on Safari)

Forgive me if I'm wrong... (2, Insightful)

Chicken_Kickers (1062164) | more than 4 years ago | (#32160958)

but companies could face anti-trust action even if they don't own a monopoly over a product or service. (Confirm/Deny?) I am also smirking over the reaction of Apple supporters over this news. Previously, it was "we are the champions, no time for losers" now it is "hey, told you we're not evil because we are the underdogs, support the underdogs!" Not trolling by the way.

Re:Forgive me if I'm wrong... (2, Funny)

linhares (1241614) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161198)

John Gruber has already started [fakesteve.net] . Gotta love that guy.

Does the droid and iPhone do this?! (0)

irreverant (1544263) | more than 4 years ago | (#32160986)

Support remote desktop? I work in an enterprise environment and have found the feature very useful when away from my desk. When I'm on the production floor troubleshooting an issue and need to do a novell password reset; I just unlock my phone, enable remote desktop connection, log into my work machine and reset the password without ever having to leave the machine i'm trouble shooting. This saves me time; otherwise I would have to walk back to my terminal just to reset a password and then walk back to the client machine and continue troubleshooting. Any takers?

Re:Does the droid and iPhone do this?! (4, Informative)

dingen (958134) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161036)

There are RDP and VNC clients for both iPhone and Android.

Re:Does the droid and iPhone do this?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32161084)

www.logmein.com has an iphone app that works great for that usage. logmein is a pretty good service as well.

Re:Does the droid and iPhone do this?! (1)

TooMuchToDo (882796) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161086)

My Nexus One does both, although we wrote the app that allows for talking to our power/network API for rebooting equipment and changing VLANs via the phone when you're in the datacenter.

Re:Does the droid and iPhone do this?! (1)

stickytar (96286) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161098)

Yes, you can RDP on Android. Not sure about iPhone.

Re:Does the droid and iPhone do this?! (1)

BarryJacobsen (526926) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161116)

Support remote desktop? I work in an enterprise environment and have found the feature very useful when away from my desk. When I'm on the production floor troubleshooting an issue and need to do a novell password reset; I just unlock my phone, enable remote desktop connection, log into my work machine and reset the password without ever having to leave the machine i'm trouble shooting. This saves me time; otherwise I would have to walk back to my terminal just to reset a password and then walk back to the client machine and continue troubleshooting. Any takers?

There are VNC and RDP clients for iPhone and iPad. Not sure about android.

Re:Does the droid and iPhone do this?! (2, Informative)

ircmaxell (1117387) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161144)

Support remote desktop?

Yes it does. There's an app (it's not free, maybe a few $$$) called "Remote RDP" that connects to both Windows RDP machines, and any Linux box running XRDP. It may work with VNC, but I've never tried it. I also have an app called "Connect Bot" installed which manages ssh connections. It supports full public key authentication and port forwarding.

Re:Does the droid and iPhone do this?! (1)

Graham J - XVI (1076671) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161172)

Yep, on iPhone check out Jaadu (now called iTeleport I think) - VNC or RDP versions.

Re:Does the droid and iPhone do this?! (1)

TrancePhreak (576593) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161218)

As others mentioned, they exist on iPhone and Android. In my experience, however, it runs better on Android for 2 reasons: higher resolution displays and a hardware input to mimic the mouse (in some cases the keyboard also).

Re:Does the droid and iPhone do this?! (1)

Xtifr (1323) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161264)

Android has an ssh client--first thing I installed when I got mine. No idea about that other one, since I have zero interest in it.

Re:Does the droid and iPhone do this?! (1)

masdog (794316) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161336)

Effect on app market? (1)

thepike (1781582) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161052)

I'm curious to see what effect this will have on the app markets. Like, will more people start developing for Android now because of the increased market share? Will that increase the Android market size to the point that it can catch up to the head start the iPhone had? Will that have any effect on the iTunes policies?

Perhaps not, but it's something to think about.

Antitrust? (1)

99BottlesOfBeerInMyF (813746) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161058)

So Apple having 20% of the market and being behind RIM and Android is different from an antitrust perspective than Apple having 20% of the market behind RIM and a bunch of other companies that share an OS? Do the people making these comments even think they make any sense? Apple can argue it isn't dominant if it's #3 for phones sold with a given OS (having little to do with the markets that define antitrust law) and it can't argue it isn't dominant if it is #2 in the market for smartphone sales? Insanity!

Great news (1)

Alien1024 (1742918) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161142)

Great news for developers... Let iDevices fade into oblivion with their closed operating system and their watchdog policy on App Store. Though nothing is as open as Maemo. HTC hardware running maemo, now that would be one kick ass phone.

This has all happened before and it will all ... (4, Interesting)

nilbog (732352) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161174)

Apple is committed to making the same mistakes it made in the 80's. It amazes me how they think they can break the natural laws of the market and make their business model work. In five years the iPhone's market share will pale in comparison to Android and it will be for the sole reason that Apple cares more about its vision than its customers. Android is the Windows of the mobile world.

That's damn cold (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32161292)

Android is the Windows of the mobile world.

YOU TAKE THAT BACK!

Re:This has all happened before and it will all .. (0, Redundant)

2obvious4u (871996) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161312)

Android is the Windows of the mobile world.

Really? Windows? Are you sure? I don't recall paying $200 [microsoft.com] for my Andriod 2.1 OS license.

Re:This has all happened before and it will all .. (0, Redundant)

diamondsw (685967) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161338)

Yup, just like the failure of the iPod that idiots predicted was inevitable for years. Now they've moved on to the iPhone - great, more shlock.

That said, Android is a far better alternative model than the iPod competitors were, but dragging out the tired, old, and inaccurate "Mac vs PC in the 80's" model is just tiresome and worthless. There are so many variances (probably the biggest being price - the iPhone isn't more expensive than its competitors) that it's just a stupid comparison to make, generally only made by PC trolls.

Re:This has all happened before and it will all .. (3, Funny)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161360)

Android is the Windows of the mobile world.

It's going to crash a lot and get a lot of viruses? /duck

Re:This has all happened before and it will all .. (2, Informative)

e2d2 (115622) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161390)

They have their work cut out for them. I understand the model they want, it's close to the model used by game console manufacturers to ensure quality on their consoles and also to reap the rewards of complete control. But what I've never heard of is a restriction on using a particular language that compiles to a native format using a published API. They're gonna have a hard time selling that one as something that offers value to the customer given they already have a fairly intense filtering process for their app store. Even console manufacturers don't dictate what code you compile in, as long as it compiles to a proper native image and meets all the checks and balances.

Now, the true app experiment begins. (4, Interesting)

DdJ (10790) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161180)

There's been anecdotal evidence that there isn't as much money to be made writing Android apps as there is to be made writing iPhone apps.

One theory has gone "that's because the user base isn't there yet; when the users show up, the developers will come".

Well. It looks like the users are showing up in numbers that are becoming difficult to ignore. So now it's time to keep a close eye on app developers, and see what happens! Is Android more like the XBox 360 (where a lot of third-party developers make a lot of money), or more like the Wii (where almost nobody but Nintendo ends up making much money)?

It's all going to be very interesting to watch. Yay competition!

Moron (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32161388)

"Is Android more like the XBox 360 (where a lot of third-party developers make a lot of money), or more like the Wii (where almost nobody but Nintendo ends up making much money)?"

Where the FUCK did you come up with that garbage?

Android did not exceed "iPhone OS" sales (3, Insightful)

diamondsw (685967) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161200)

It exceeded iPhone sales, not iPhone OS, as iPhone OS includes the iPod Touch and iPad. The sales of the iPod Touch are far from insubstantial.

Meanwhile, iPhone sales are down because new ones are due in June, as they have been the last three years. People know this (and if they don't, they ask a geek friend who does), and sales drop. Just watch, they'll skyrocket in June/July, just as they have the last couple years.

Does anyone know if android does OpenVPN? (1)

fluffernutter (1411889) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161330)

.. because I have OVPN in my home and my iPod Touch is a no go / f*ck you on OpenVPN even if jailbroken.

This will be..... (1)

mr_lizard13 (882373) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161354)

...the year of Linux on the desktop, uh I mean phone.

Droid Does Porn (5, Funny)

strangeattraction (1058568) | more than 4 years ago | (#32161368)

Verizon's droid does porn advertising campaign is what really hooked me into my purchase. If Jobs hadn't pointed it out to me I probably would have just bought an iPhone.
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