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Wii Could Be What the Doctor Ordered

kdawson posted more than 3 years ago | from the unlikeliest-lede-to-a-health-story dept.

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crimeandpunishment writes "The American Heart Association and Nintendo are teaming up to promote Wii. The popular games can be branded with the AHA's logo, to indicate that they're considered a healthy choice. As part of the deal, Nintendo will donate $1.5 million to the AHA. The Heart Association is concerned about childhood obesity, and now concedes that its campaign for traditional forms of exercise just isn't getting through."

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What the doctor ordered? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32246780)

So will Nintendo come out with wii sex?

Re:What the doctor ordered? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32247276)

Just got back from a 2-week trip to Japan. Shit you not, I played a wii bukake game. From the instruction manual and a 10-minute session (my arm tired, lol), as you progress and gain points, you can unlock more girls with less clothes.

No sign of a tub-girl or eel-girl wii game.

Re:What the doctor ordered? (4, Funny)

morari (1080535) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247502)

It's what Dr. Mario ordered!

Nintendo will "donate" $1.5million (4, Interesting)

maugle (1369813) | more than 3 years ago | (#32246808)

Does it really count as a donation if they foresee these AHA-branded games generating at least that much in profit?

Re:Nintendo will "donate" $1.5million (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32246840)

Yes.

There's nothing wrong with a mutually-beneficial arrangement that supports a good cause. Nintendo is donating money. Nothing about 'donating' implies you lose something. People would never donate if it did - they always get something out of it, even if its just the feeling that they're doing right in the world.

Sure, it's easier when it's monetary. Sure, it's not as altruistic. But it's still a donation. And it can still do good.

Re:Nintendo will "donate" $1.5million (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32247372)

its plain old corruption in the guise of medically beneficial devices. plain and simple. in my opinion of course. niggers.

AHA will "endorse" Wii games (1)

just_another_sean (919159) | more than 3 years ago | (#32246862)

Does it really count as an endorsement if the AHA is getting 1.5M for it?

Seems to me to be a fairly straight foreword business deal.

Re:AHA will "endorse" Wii games (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32246892)

Isn't the definition of endorsement? Nothing in the word implies that it has to be given for free.

Re:AHA will "endorse" Wii games (4, Insightful)

Trepidity (597) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247094)

In theory, as a non-profit charity dedicated to reducing the incidence and impact of heart disease, the AHA should be making its endorsements on the basis of some sort of measure of validity, not selling the rights to use the AHA logo as a purely commercial transaction.

Now presumably they did actually evaluate these games, but it sure gives the appearance of something being a bit more commercial than charitable if they gave their endorsement of these games in return for a $1.5 million donation.

Re:AHA will "endorse" Wii games (1)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247490)

The AHA statement sounds more like "we've tried getting people off their asses and doing exercise other ways, and people haven't done it. What the hell, it's worth a shot."

I'm sure the $1.5M will come in handy too.

Re:AHA will "endorse" Wii games (1)

negRo_slim (636783) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247696)

The AHA statement sounds more like "we've tried getting people off their asses and doing exercise other ways, and people haven't done it. What the hell, it's worth a shot."

It might sound that away unless you recognize the very real need to start thinking in shades of grey as opposed to black and white when confront problems.

The more aware people are of their ability to make better choices is a step in the right direction and if a seal on a video game box helps in part to achieve that goal, all the better I say.

Re:AHA will "endorse" Wii games (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32247722)

How long before Microsoft makes a donation to get the xbox to have an AHA endorsement? Or, more like Microsoft, how long for the AHA to make a payment to Microsoft to put an AHA endorsement on their boxes?

Re:AHA will "endorse" Wii games (5, Interesting)

JackieBrown (987087) | more than 4 years ago | (#32248440)

The more aware people are of their ability to make better choices is a step in the right direction and if a seal on a video game box helps in part to achieve that goal, all the better I say.

I got the wii fit and - to my horror - it said that I was obese. I was always the skinny kid in school and never really paid attention to the scale that would go up 2 pounds a month. It was a real wake up call.

I started exercing using the wii fit games (I really like the obstacle course where you are jumping from ledge to ledge and avoiding giant wrecking balls.) I stopped because my downstairs neighbor started banging on her ceiling.

The embarrassment of being told I was obese (no doctor ever said that to my face) combined with my neighbor thinking her ceiling was going to collapse simple by me running and jumping really inspired me.

In the past 8 months, I have lost close to 60 pounds and am well past the obese range. I have 5 pound to go to no longer being overweight. I still use the wii fit, but as a measuring tool and will start using it for exercise soon since I should be nearing the point where I no longer shake the entire apartment.

The only downside to losing the weight is that I have the same stretch marks as a woman who gave birth. But since it was a lot of work to lose that weight - and since I am already married - I see those as marks of pride and accomplishment.

Re:AHA will "endorse" Wii games (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32249410)

That's really cool to hear -- congratulations on your success so far and keep up the good work :)

Re:AHA will "endorse" Wii games (1)

tsm_sf (545316) | more than 4 years ago | (#32249580)

I see those as marks of pride and accomplishment.

Enjoy the extra ten years you've added to your life.

Re:AHA will "endorse" Wii games (2, Interesting)

somersault (912633) | more than 4 years ago | (#32250248)

I lost 20lbs, by going for regular walks and eating less. People still thought I was skinny even before that, but I was *just* under the "obese" line on Wii Fit. I didn't realise until after I lost the weight how much fat I had on me. Though I'm sure some of what I lost will have been muscle, I have been build my weight back up again for the last few months by going to the gym.

If people are too fat then exercise may help, but the obvious thing to do is to stop eating and drinking sugar/white flour enhanced shit and fries. They both raise your blood sugar far too quickly for your body to actually be able to use the energy, and so you end up just storing most of it as fat. I see exercise as a way to build muscle and to feel healthy - it's a very simple matter to lose weight through eating more intelligently.

Re:AHA will "endorse" Wii games (1)

dwye (1127395) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247550)

Now presumably they did actually evaluate these games, but it sure gives the appearance of something being a bit more commercial than charitable if they gave their endorsement of these games in return for a $1.5 million donation.

I am sure that the AHA would never have endorsed Wii for just $1.5 million if the games were not potentially good for the user's heart. I am sure that Blizzard would have had to bribe^H^H^H^H^Hcontribute far more to get the same benefit.

At least $3 or 4 million, maybe more.

Re:AHA will "endorse" Wii games (1)

deniable (76198) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247738)

It all comes down to the value of the seal / brand. If they put it on everything, then it loses its value. Taking some money from Nintendo and putting their seal on some Wii games should not damage the brand as it were. If they took the cash and endorsed couch-potato games, they'd be in trouble.

Re:AHA will "endorse" Wii games (2, Interesting)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247966)

In theory, as a non-profit charity dedicated to reducing the incidence and impact of heart disease, the AHA should be making its endorsements on the basis of some sort of measure of validity, not selling the rights to use the AHA logo as a purely commercial transaction.

Either way, its a still head and shoulders above a cancer charity endorsing buckets of fried chicken from KFC.

Re:AHA will "endorse" Wii games (1)

xaxa (988988) | more than 4 years ago | (#32250310)

Or the only food sponsors for the 2012 Olympics being Coca-Cola, McDonald's and Cadbury's.

Re:Nintendo will "donate" $1.5million (1)

arth1 (260657) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247264)

Wot, like "Take On Me - Multiplayer Edition"?

Re:Nintendo will "donate" $1.5million (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247846)

Does it really count as a donation if they foresee these AHA-branded games generating at least that much in profit?

Yes. I guess you could instead call it a "good faith investment" since it's not certain to pay off for nintendo.

Re:Nintendo will "donate" $1.5million (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 4 years ago | (#32248856)

Does it really count as a donation if they foresee these AHA-branded games generating at least that much in profit?

Yes.

a.) The definition of 'donation' doesn't have anything to do with motivation.

b.) They don't actually have the money until they get it. Their prediction of the future may be correct, but it's still a guess.

c.) There's nothing to single out Nintendo over any other company in this context.

I mean no offense, but I honestly don't understand why anybody spent their hard-earned mod points on your post.

Re:Nintendo will "donate" $1.5million (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32250402)

I mean no offense, but I honestly don't understand why anybody spent their hard-earned mod points on your post.

They aren't hard earned, we get those things more often than we can be bothered to spend them so many people just blow them on the first posts they see.

Re:Nintendo will "donate" $1.5million (1)

pclminion (145572) | more than 4 years ago | (#32249284)

You can make some money, then donate it to charity. Or, you could donate to charity, and HOPE you'll make enough money to cover it. In the first case, you risk nothing. In the second case, you risk a bunch of money. So not only are they donating to charity, they're doing it with money they don't even have yet. When's the last time YOU took out a loan just to donate the whole thing to charity? And you're criticizing them for it?

Re:Nintendo will "donate" $1.5million (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 4 years ago | (#32250288)

So not only are they donating to charity, they're doing it with money they don't even have yet

We're talking about Nintendo here, not some recent startup. They made 2.45 billion dollars profit from March last year to this year - and that's down on the year before because of the poor global economy. They're in the "risking nothing" category with this one.

Re:Nintendo will "donate" $1.5million (1)

Tha_Zanthrax (521419) | more than 4 years ago | (#32250294)

Ofcourse Nintendo is trying to sell more games. That's their business. But what's a more friendly way to do this? Supporting a health-related cause or removing features from your product? (I'm looking at you Sony)

Re:Nintendo will "donate" $1.5million (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 4 years ago | (#32250424)

Trying to sell more games is almost uncommon these days with the standard answer to lacking revenue seeming to be "get more revenue per copy" and resulting in 60$/70€ game prices (Nintendo's games are 40€ here, no wonder they wipe the floor with the competition), tons of DLC, "collector's" editions that cost a hundred bucks or more and all kinds of anti-used-sale measures.

Sort of healthy (4, Informative)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 3 years ago | (#32246880)

Often on the weekends my sons friends will be at out place to use the wii. They spend more time jumping around in front of the TV than they would spend with a different console but I usually take them out to the school oval to kick a soccer ball around as well. I am sure they get more health benefit from being outside then from being in front of the wii.

How about AHA's logos on normal sporting equipment. Footballs, etc?

Re:Sort of healthy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32246916)

not a bad idea.

Re:Sort of healthy (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32247048)

Two questions:

What type of pesticides do they use on the "school oval"?
Do any of the kids suffer from ADHD [cnn.com] ?

I lied. I have a third question.

I am sure they get more health benefit[s] from being outside [than] from being in front of the wii.

Are you sure?

Re:Sort of healthy (5, Insightful)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247300)

Alarmist yuppies like you are part of the problem.

Playing outside(or at all, for that matter) is much less fun than it used to be because of overprotective parents who feel the need to keep their kids on short leashes and wrapped in bubble-wrap.

Because of people like you, the American Heart Association would never put their name on a football because you'd sue them if your kid missed a pass and got a bloody nose.

With apologies to Matt Stone and Trey Parker -- America, FAT yeah.

Re:Sort of healthy (3, Funny)

tecnico.hitos (1490201) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247472)

Are you kidding? An overprotective parent would never let their kids to use a Nintendo Wii.Those things are dangerous. [wiihaveaproblem.com]

Re:Sort of healthy (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32247976)

your right, however i digress I'd send the kids outside but 'the pool is closed' and it was a targeted racial attack on my grandchildren, I'm going to the media!

Re:Sort of healthy (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32248636)

So someone who thinks all pesticide use outside of farms and disease-control operations is "part of the problem"?

Do you work for Monsanto, or one of their competitors?

Re:Sort of healthy (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32249552)

You said,

Playing outside(or at all, for that matter) is much less fun than it used to be because of overprotective parents who feel the need to keep their kids on short leashes and wrapped in bubble-wrap.

I don't think you understand the GP's argument. From his linked article:

Children exposed to higher levels of a type of pesticide found in trace amounts on commercially grown fruit and vegetables are more likely to have attention deficit hyperactivity disorder than children with less exposure, a nationwide study suggests.

It's obvious that he is advocating against the use of fruits and vegetables as a dietary staple. Kids should be indoors taking vitamins for their nutrition, Ritalin for their ADHD, and playing video games for good heart health.

Re:Sort of healthy (1)

deniable (76198) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247704)

Given that school ovals / sports fields are kept segregated from residential areas and are only ever used by children, we use the works on them: DDT, HCB, KFC, and USB.

Re:Sort of healthy (1)

Idbar (1034346) | more than 4 years ago | (#32248386)

I'd say, that if they don't go out, their bodies won't generate anti-bodies to defend them from common viruses. It's not only about not being obese... it's about being really healthy.

As for ADHD, I'll stick to South Park's easy cure [youtube.com]

Re:Sort of healthy (2, Insightful)

PeanutButterBreath (1224570) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247238)

Its the diet soft drink of game consoles -- healthy relative to gaming that requires no physical exertion at all.

Re:Sort of healthy (1)

kjart (941720) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247400)

How about AHA's logos on normal sporting equipment. Footballs, etc?

Probably because there isn't any reason to do so - it's implicit in that the AHA encourages physical activity. Is someone going to see the AHA logo on a football and suddenly realize that it might be healthy to play sports? Doubtful.

Plus, there is the differentiation factor. Is there any reason why the AHA would hypothetically endorse one brand of sporting equipment over another? No, they are essentially all the same from their perspective. The value of attaching the logo to the Wii is that it might cause parents to choose that one over the others available because it's the healthiest choice available i.e. in this case it does matter what they put their weight behind.

Re:Sort of healthy (1)

syousef (465911) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247714)

Often on the weekends my sons friends will be at out place to use the wii. They spend more time jumping around in front of the TV than they would spend with a different console but I usually take them out to the school oval to kick a soccer ball around as well. I am sure they get more health benefit from being outside then from being in front of the wii.

How about AHA's logos on normal sporting equipment. Footballs, etc?

I'm fat and have a sendentary job. Do you think that if I run the health benefits past my employer he'll let me stay home and play my Wii for a few months? Because if he'll do that I can claim it and the games on tax as a necessary part of my job too.

Neat (2, Interesting)

adeft (1805910) | more than 3 years ago | (#32246884)

I've been toying with getting one of these for the exact reason to trick myself into doing some sort of activity while I'm idle. Now this just needs to coincide with a new advertising campaign and price-cut :)

Re:Neat (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32247766)

It has worked for me in the way TFA says:

It is a complement or a launch pad that will bridge the gap between doing nothing and starting a traditional exercise program.

Actually a little better than that -- a 40mi Wii Fit workout is more balanced than my previous sole activity of walking/hiking.

Now if only I didn't have to swap disks between Wii Fit in the morning and Netflix viewer at night.

More Important (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32248210)

Will health insurance companies reimburse people for Wii purchases?

Lighting someone on fire does not work?? (1)

www.sorehands.com (142825) | more than 3 years ago | (#32246898)

As Richard Pryor said, "Fire is an inspiration!" When you are on fire, you will move your ass.

Re:Lighting someone on fire does not work?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32248402)

When you are on fire, you will move your ass.

You might also stay warm for the rest of your life.

One other thing ... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32246964)

Fix school lunch programs at the same time. When the daily menu items are cookies, french fries, pizza, cheeseburgers, and chips it's no surprise that the kids are fat.

Dogs (5, Funny)

Nidi62 (1525137) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247064)

The AHA should endorse stray rabid rottweilers. They are a great way to get people more interested/involved with running.

Re:Dogs (1)

Jarik C-Bol (894741) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247354)

its also a great way to promote interest in firearms!

Re:Dogs (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32247462)

You don't have to outrun the rabid rottweiler, you just have to outrun your friends...

A message from the AHA

Re:Dogs (1)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247510)

Hey,

  - outrun your friends, you lose weight and lower the chance of getting a heart attack.
  - get caught by the rottie, you die of dog-attack injuries, not of a heart attack.

About the only downside is if you die of a heart attack in panic from running from the dog, and the dog'll eat the evidence.

So no matter how you slice it, this is a win-win for the AHA.

Re:Dogs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32249758)

For some reason "rabid rottweilers" is heard in my brain in the voice of Pontius Pilate.

Don't underestimate the Wii (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32247112)

In Red Steel 2 (it uses the friggin Motion+) you can configure with how much force the Wiimote has to be swung for correctly executing a sword slash.
I thought it was a funny idea to crank this setting to maximum and beat the game straight in one session. Afterwards I had muscle fever in both arms for about 2 days.

So yeah... there seems to be some truth in the whole "Wii = exercise" marketing.

Re:Don't underestimate the Wii (3, Insightful)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247160)

The thing is that there are scales of exercise. For a morbidly obese person playing a wii game might be a good workout. For somebody who is already very fit it might be of no benefit at all.

Re:Don't underestimate the Wii (4, Interesting)

EvanED (569694) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247420)

For somebody who is already very fit it might be of no benefit at all.

That depends on what game you're talking about. I'm sure DDR is probably about as far to the "good workout" end of the spectrum as you can get, so this is probably an extreme example, but you could give Lance Armstrong a DDR mat and copy of the game and after going through a little learning curve I almost guarantee he'd be getting a good workout with it.

People get good exercise with a good exercise DVD and they're just sitting in front of the TV; why can't you get good exercise if you replace the DVD with a video game?

Re:Don't underestimate the Wii (-1, Troll)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247522)

could give Lance Armstrong a DDR mat and copy of the game and after going through a little learning curve I almost guarantee he'd be getting a good workout with it.

I am sorry but I just don't believe that. For Lance Armstrong to get a good workout in a static environment he would need equipment of the same standard as a competition road bike, and fans to blow the heat away. If he is standing in front of a TV with no attempt to dispose of heat then he isn't working hard enough.

I just cycled to work. The air was at 4 degrees C and I arrived feeling hot. Anybody who rides fairly hard on the road would find it very uncomfortable to use any kind of static trainer. I don't know what a DDR mat is but I assume it is made of plastic, not steel or titanium. I don't believe Armstrong could put any amount of work into it without breaking it.

Re:Don't underestimate the Wii (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32247732)

I'm glad you decided to tell this person that they're wrong even though you don't seem to know what DDR is. You're basically saying Lance Armstrong could never get a work out from an intense aerobic dance routine, and that's just ridiculous. Maybe he wouldn't be as "comfortable" as he would on his bike, be that doesn't make it an illegitimate exercise. Additionally, DDR mats come in plastic and steel varieties, which is something you could have discovered if you did any amount of research before you commented on something you know nothing about.

Re:Don't underestimate the Wii (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247944)

Okay I googled it and I find the idea that Lance Armstrong would benefit from using it hilarious. This is a guy who can cycle 300km in six hours. I would believe that lifting weights would constitute a workout for Lance Armstrong but not using a DDR pad on a wii.

Re:Don't underestimate the Wii (1)

xaxa (988988) | more than 4 years ago | (#32250360)

As my "personal trainer" flatmate keeps telling me, lifting weights is a completely different kind of exercise to cycling, running or swimming.

You only lift weights a few times, but you can cycle/run/swim for several hours.

Re:Don't underestimate the Wii (1)

deniable (76198) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247834)

Dance Dance Revolution [wikipedia.org] Rhythm game involving moving your feet. It's more about rapid / repetitive movement than force.

Re:Don't underestimate the Wii (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32248332)

Perhaps you weren't aware that Lance also played football? While I love cycling myself, stating it is the only way for a professional athlete to get a good workout appears silly. Perhaps the cold air influenced the comment.

Re:Don't underestimate the Wii (3, Funny)

Cryacin (657549) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247560)

People get good exercise with a good exercise DVD and they're just sitting in front of the TV;

I've been watching aerobics for months now, and I still haven't lost a gram of fat.

Re:Don't underestimate the Wii (1)

fishexe (168879) | more than 4 years ago | (#32249628)

People get good exercise with a good exercise DVD and they're just sitting in front of the TV;

I've been watching aerobics for months now, and I still haven't lost a gram of fat.

Yeah, most of what you get rid of watching aerobics is probably protein and sugar...

Re:Don't underestimate the Wii (1)

Mprx (82435) | more than 4 years ago | (#32248000)

Assuming he doesn't already play, Lance Armstrong would get a workout because he's got no idea how to move efficiently. The key to high level DDR play is moving just enough to trigger the switches. Beginners waste a lot of energy so they get an intense workout even on easy songs.

Re:Don't underestimate the Wii (1)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247998)

The thing is that there are scales of exercise. For a morbidly obese person playing a wii game might be a good workout. For somebody who is already very fit it might be of no benefit at all.

The deciding factor is what would the person be doing otherwise. If the choice is between DDR and world of warcraft, then even Lance Armstrong is going to benefit from choosing DDR.

Re:Don't underestimate the Wii (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#32250078)

The thing is that there are scales of exercise. For a morbidly obese person playing a wii game might be a good workout. For somebody who is already very fit it might be of no benefit at all.

The deciding factor is what would the person be doing otherwise. If the choice is between DDR and world of warcraft, then even Lance Armstrong is going to benefit from choosing DDR.

Okay but I don't see Lance making that choice.

Re:Don't underestimate the Wii (1)

Jarik C-Bol (894741) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247344)

so the real question is; was Red Steel 2 any good? the first one sorta sucked.

Kicking the can down the road burns calories. . . (1)

PeanutButterBreath (1224570) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247176)

. . .but it is not what I would call a healthy lifestyle choice. There are lots of sports and other active hobbies that are inherently fun and also a nice break from staring at a screen.

Re:Kicking the can down the road burns calories. . (1)

Black Gold Alchemist (1747136) | more than 4 years ago | (#32249050)

So what. Many of us don't want a break from the screen. We also don't like this healthy lifestyle stuff pushed on us either.

Sounds reasonable to me... (1)

seebs (15766) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247190)

I have spent some time on some of those games, and yes, they're definitely exercise. More than I get playing with other stuff. (And if I don't want to exercise, well, there's other games for the Wii.)

I think there should be more exercise available in console gaming than hurling controllers and yelling "fuck".

Re:Sounds reasonable to me... (1)

MrEricSir (398214) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247946)

Hurling the controller and yelling "fuck" isn't necessarily legal [slashdot.org] .

DDR? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32247374)

The only game that I consider possibly really being heart healthy is something like DDR. That's the only game that can get your heart-rate to whatever level you want and keep it there for extended periods of time. I used to use it a lot before I got a treadmill (for those days when I can't run outside).

It's not shin-friendly though. Best to use a hard pad with shoes.

Physiotherapy tool... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32247426)

I had to do some physio for my knee lately, which involved a lot of standing on one foot, while turning your head, or bouncing a ball... all to make you work those knee muscles.

The thing that wrecked my balancing concentration more (and made my knee work harder!) was playing some Wii games where you had to wave the remote around (not just joystick.)

Maybe I should patent that!

AHA are a joke (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32247504)

The AHA are a joke - still recommending low fat diets - without any scientific evidence. (see the Diet Delusion)
Now they are recommending that kids play more video games....

Re:AHA are a joke (3, Insightful)

oldhack (1037484) | more than 4 years ago | (#32248744)

Applies to most of the medical PR orgs.

I trust my mechanics more than my doctors, and y'all should. Chances are, your mechanics are more honest than your doctors.

Re:AHA are a joke (1)

oddTodd123 (1806894) | more than 4 years ago | (#32248996)

The AHA are a joke - still recommending low fat diets - without any scientific evidence.

25-35% of daily calories from fat does not sound like a "low fat" diet to me: http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=532 [americanheart.org]

Re:AHA are a joke (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32249688)

That is actually a low fat diet, and almost everything written on that page is utterly false, and without basis.

I recommend this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Diet-Delusion-Challenging-Conventional-Disease/dp/0091891418

It goes into a lot of detail - and there is a lot of discussion of the AHA's recommendations - and their origin.

This is pretty sad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32247634)

The AHA shouldn't be endorsing video games as healthy.

I know there are excercise *programs* for wii, but lets face it, fitness games for the balance aren't about combatting childhood obesity. They're just trying to slice off a bit of the multibillion dollar "gimmicky excercise routine, because excercising is hard" industry.

Skip guitar hero, and learn to play a real guitar. Skip FIFA soccer, get out and kick the ball around with friends. Bleh. Living isn't as hard as ppl make it out to be. Fucking lazy bastards.

A wii mote doesnt move that much more than a mouse does in a fast paced FPS death match.

Re:This is pretty sad (1)

deniable (76198) | more than 4 years ago | (#32248114)

Skip Modern Warfare 2 and shoot up airports for real. Skip GTA and...

How about this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32247756)

Anyone consider that we might be evolving to not require so much exercise?

The AMA and Nintendo is holding back the natural evolution of human beings to be huge fat lazy slobs sitting in front of a computer all day solving all the world's problems virtually! For shame!

Well (1)

mmaniaci (1200061) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247758)

At least one small part of our society isn't shunning new technology like the plague.

goodlookingabs (1)

goodlookingabs (1813760) | more than 4 years ago | (#32247896)

It's a good tool to help the game freaks who don't want to do anything, get out of the house and get some exercise. I love playing it myself. Thanks, moe http://loose-inches.com/ [loose-inches.com]

Sure why not (1)

Snaller (147050) | more than 4 years ago | (#32248100)

If they GIVE it to me. I'm not going to buy it.

Ya boy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32248258)

Yeah I logged a lot of miles peddlin'n my ass to the local arcade to play neogeo and listen to ac/dc but... Hahahahaaaaaa. What a pethetic joke. Good for the heart. Pfffffft.... Keep swinging those chucks little man.

How about some -real- science? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32248504)

This is the same group who gives (sells) their health-check certification to Berry Burst Triple Berry Cheerios. Your research dollars at work, kids. It's the American way.

If you're looking for science, don't look to the AHA. You'll just find a paper trail leading to product marketing targets. A trail that leads through the wallets of nearly every credentialed medical pundit in the USA.

Meanwhile real scientists are still looking for the holy grail -- that fully randomized, double-blind, placebo controlled clinical trial (not observational or meta study) that offers any evidence that dietary cholesterol or saturated fats contribute to any form of heart disease. Good luck, keep looking, it must be here somewhere, they keep talking about it in the medical journals! Medical science is such a sham.

Tell me how to contribute my money to sponsor real scientific studies, not those product sponsored ones with predetermined outcomes.

Pfizer, Merck and friends won't stop blaming dietary cholesterol until we have governments paying them billions to add statins to the public drinking water. It's coming folks, just watch.

Why fucking bother with the goddamned fat fucks? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32248522)

Why fucking bother with the goddamned fat fucks? Why not let natural selection take its course instead? Then tere will not be any fudgepacking, twinkie sucking, fat, fucktarded shitdot sheeple to post anymore?

GO AHEAD FUCKING FLAME AWAY OR WASTE YOUR GODDAMNED MOD POINTS FUCKTARDED SHITDOT SHEEPLE!!

Not as silly as you might think... (1)

Aspen (70029) | more than 4 years ago | (#32248546)

Depends on what gets endorsed, of course. EA Sports Active is actually pretty intense if you follow it in good faith and use a decent resistance band.

The real key: it got me off my butt and moving for a few weeks, then I moved back onto the elliptical machine and got in decent shape for this spring. I can't complain about anything that gets you started & engaged.

This reminds me of ..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32248804)

This all reminds me of MacDonalds getting the Heart Tick Foundations approval in Australia .....

Woo-hoo! (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 4 years ago | (#32248874)

Wii Could Be What the Doctor Ordered

Tomorrow I'm gonna go see my doctor and ask him a medical prescription for Metroid: Other M.

Virtual vs. Physical (3, Interesting)

Kr1ll1n (579971) | more than 4 years ago | (#32248898)

I used to sit on my ass all the time and play video games. Now, any chance I get, and it is decent weather (sunny, cloudy, or windy, but not rainy) I am outside disc golfing. This includes less than 30 degrees outside or over 90 degrees, to me it doesn't matter. I just love it. I never understood how some people consider the gym exercise, or a video game console. In both scenarios you are in a climate-controlled environment, more than capable of just hitting your own internal, or a machines' external, off button. It just isn't the same as actually being outside doing something. I do admit I need more weight training though. Guess it is time to join another bowling league. It's amazing how much upper body strength you can develop throwing a 14-16lb ball an average of 60 times in 2 hours.

Re:Virtual vs. Physical (1)

Kr1ll1n (579971) | more than 4 years ago | (#32249036)

Also bears mentioning, none of this (Wii or Gyms) really give you the "pain" or "burn" you should get from a real workout. Case in point: Kid with Wii swings Wiimote nunchuk for an hour, burns maybe 100 calories. I swing my real nunchuks for 15 minutes, and get the same amount of burnt calories. I also have sore knuckles from missed catches, and a beet red underarm\side, from catching the downswing. Does it hurt? Fuckin A' it hurts. Do I feel like I got a workout? I can barely breathe, what do you think?

Re:Virtual vs. Physical (2, Funny)

feepness (543479) | more than 4 years ago | (#32249248)

It's amazing how much upper body strength you can develop throwing a 14-16lb ball an average of 60 times in 2 hours.

Not to mention lifting a 12 ounce drink a couple hundred times...

Re:Virtual vs. Physical (1)

Kr1ll1n (579971) | more than 4 years ago | (#32249352)

For me, nah. I drink at home, and only scotch. When I bowl it is always diet coke.

last time I went to the Dr. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32249100)

He did order me to Wee!

Thank you Nintendo... (1)

fragMasterFlash (989911) | more than 4 years ago | (#32249122)

...For including the Pokewalker with the DS Pokemon Heartgold game. My son gets to "unlock" playtime for his DS by using the pedometer feature on the Pokewalker (the pedometer is a Nintendo feature, gaming time limits are currently enforced the old fashion way).

Wii Fixed my back! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32249470)

Posting as a total coward because I don't want to take the time to fill out whatever it is I need to, I wanted to point out, that Wii boxing actually worked very well to heal an upper back (connective tissue) injury that has been semi-debilitating me for years. A few boxing matches a few times a week for a short while and I haven't had any problems since. Cheaper that doctors and chiropractors to boot.

A Sad Day ? (1)

Zoxed (676559) | more than 4 years ago | (#32249738)

Is it just me, or is it a sad day when the American Heart Association has to admit defeat and admit that waving your arms around in front of a TV can be counted as progress in promoting health ?

wii has an unfair advantage over real exercise.... (0, Troll)

ibsteve2u (1184603) | more than 4 years ago | (#32250430)

At least for too many urban kids...all the gangbangers, bodies, destruction, and poverty on the wii screen ain't real and can be turned off with a flick of a switch. The kid who lives in inner city America who wants to go down to the park first has be willing to run the gauntlet to get there, and then has to be willing to go the limit to defend their patch of the park.

If we wanted to combat obesity, we'd work to make it safe for kids to go outside again. But not we Americans...apparently due to unhappiness with the deadly efficacy of the gangbangers we can grow ourselves, we let new ones flood over the border.

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