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Google Wave Now Open To All

timothy posted more than 4 years ago | from the and-do-you-care dept.

Social Networks 180

tonyfugere writes "After a year of testing by invitation only, Google Wave has been opened to the public. From what I have seen, it looks like it could be beneficial for documenting brainstorming sessions beyond simple instant messaging protocols." (Google Wave is "also great for entertaining the masses," says tonyfugere, who links to the slightly NSFW demonstration below.)

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The link you actually care about (5, Informative)

BitZtream (692029) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267550)

Re:The link you actually care about (4, Informative)

BitZtream (692029) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267570)

Should also note, its actually open to Apps for your Domain as well.

Re:The link you actually care about (1)

AvitarX (172628) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268038)

Looks like premier edition only though.

Re:The link you actually care about (1)

lagfest (959022) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268448)

Wrong.

It has to be enabled by an administrator, though.

Re:The link you actually care about (1)

BitZtream (692029) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268530)

It seems to be part of premier to me. I can not enable it on my non-premier account.

If you follow the link at wave.google.com about it for AFYD then it clearly states its for premier apps accounts.

From wave.google.com:

New! Google Apps domains [google.com] can turn on Google Wave.
Anyone can now use Google Wave. No invitation needed!

I stand corrected (1)

BitZtream (692029) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268558)

It is now listed on my non-premier account as a service I can add.

It really wasn't there an hour ago, thats the first thing I went to do.

Re:I stand corrected (1)

AvitarX (172628) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268854)

I hope that means mine is coming soon too.

Re:The link you actually care about (-1, Offtopic)

MrHanky (141717) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267742)

No, this [webmproject.org] is the link you're looking for. Wave is old (relatively), and people found out they couldn't use it for anything. WebM is a "new" container format for streaming internet video (apparently a subset of Matroska) to be used with Google's recently open-sourced VP8 and Vorbis.

I have no idea why Slashdot decided to run with the Wave news before that.

Re:The link you actually care about (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32267892)

No kidding!

To summarize, we now have Google (Chromium), Firefox, Opera and Adobe (Flash + all dev tools) all supporting a fully open source (BSD licensed) and unemcumbered high quality VP8 file format, and only Microsoft and Apple supporting h264 which while also high quality, is heavily patent encumbered and proprietary. Google wave is pretty neat, but the WebM project is the real news of the morning.

Gotta agree with parent... (1)

Qubit (100461) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267912)

No, this [webmproject.org] is the link you're looking for.

Okay, I think that MrHanky might actually be spot-on this time (and not those kinds of spots...he leaves those all the time).

I mean, have you heard of the WebM project before? From the WebM FAQ:

Are VP8 or WebM subject to change?

The VP8 and WebM specifications as released on May 19th, 2010 are final.

Correct me if I'm missing something, but this looks like breaking news as of today...

And most critically:

WebM and VP8 are open-source. How do I get the source and contribute code?

The code, specifications and development guidelines are available on our Code page.

See that? VP8 [is] open-source. How could they possibly say that unless.... Google just released VP8?

Nicely done, Google, nicely done!

Re:The link you actually care about (1)

BitZtream (692029) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268036)

Because no one submitted a story about what you want to be posted.

You should learn how slashdot works rather than posting random stuff in another thread that its completely unrelated too.

Re:The link you actually care about (1)

MrHanky (141717) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268096)

Wrong. At least three people had submitted stories about it before this was posted to the front page.

Re:The link you actually care about (1)

BitZtream (692029) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268474)

Okay, so the wave story was submitted first or timothy read the wave story first or only god knows, don't get your panties all app in a knot there buddy, you'll be okay. Sometimes things don't always go in the order you want.

Re:The link you actually care about (0, Troll)

MrHanky (141717) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268566)

You're the one getting your panties in a knot, moron. I just posted a link to a related item that I thought would interest Slashdotters more, with all the concerns regarding html5 video lately.

Re:The link you actually care about (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32268256)

It wasn't random. Nor "completely unrelated".

As for how Slashdot works, it's simple.
Google, Apple = good
Microsoft, DRM, patents = bad

Re:The link you actually care about (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32268320)

Oh, yea cause Google and Apple are soooo goood.......

People are using it? (5, Insightful)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267556)

Wow, I have not heard about Wave in a while...I thought it had been lost in the bin of Forgotten Google Projects (FGPs).

Re:People are using it? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32267870)

I'm so glad that /. came it it's senses about google wave because when it was announced everyone was so excited about it, I thought I had gone crazy to feel otherwise. Now everyone is giggling about it, asking what the point is and why exactly it's a "revolution".

Jeez just watch that video, I mean it's embarrassing.

Re:People are using it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32267998)

That's because Google failed to actually do anything useful with it. It's still a cool project, Google just doesn't care and had never released the source so it was hard for anyone else to use it for anything interesting.

Re:People are using it? (3, Funny)

dsavi (1540343) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267950)

Maybe this will lead to someone actually knowing what Google Wave is. I never thought I'd see the day.

My best fit for Wave; (5, Interesting)

B5_geek (638928) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267562)

IMHO, the best niche that Wave can fill is by replacing message boards. By merging the IRC/Email/newsgroup/BBS concept it makes it perfect for following threads of conversations, starting new discussions, replying privately to one or two individuals, embedding images and/or videos.

I would gladly donate my left kidney if all my favorite forums/groups switched over to Wave.

Re:My best fit for Wave; (5, Funny)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267804)

A few of mine tried. After a couple hundred messages, you have to type each character and wait a second or two before you can type the next one.

I finally gave up when it started taking me more than a minute to type a short sentence. I started longing for the incredible speed of BBSes and my old 300-baud modem.

Re:My best fit for Wave; (4, Insightful)

demonlapin (527802) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268208)

Why is this modded funny? It's painfully true. Some friends and I have used Wave for a LOST discussion group every week, and it's pretty bad by the end of each episode.

Re:My best fit for Wave; (5, Funny)

D Ninja (825055) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268266)

Some friends and I have used Wave for a LOST discussion group every week, and it's pretty bad by the end of each episode

The Wave or the show?

Re:My best fit for Wave; (1)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268540)

Damn! You beat me to it. :)

Re:My best fit for Wave; (0, Redundant)

tignet (1303483) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268228)

I realize you've been modded funny, but it's no joke. It can seriously crawl. I was using Chrome to test it, figuring that Chrome would work best. Huge mistake!

My suggestion is to avoid using Chrome with Google Wave at all costs. There is an open Chrome bug about how slow Google Wave's JavaScript runs on it--cue irony. I've found it quite usable on FireFox, though. Truthfully, I've never been in a wave with more then two or three active participants, so your mileage may vary.

Re:My best fit for Wave; (1)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268522)

I joined a few "public" waves to test it out, and in anything resembling a public forum it's useless, and the browser is irrelevant - they are all slow once you reach a certain threshold.

It appears that each keypress is sent to Wave so it can show up immediately for other people, and the browser waits for that keypress to be acknowledged before processing the next one. I think they are running a sort of session-based keylogger so the keys can be sent directly up rather than submitted via HTTP-POST.

But it scales very, very poorly. I've abandoned half-sentences on Wave because it's become too slow to type (I've seen upwards of 20-30 seconds per character, and deleting a character takes just as long).

But, yeah, for small Waves with a dozen participants and fewer than a couple hundred posts, it runs just fine. And it's a pretty neat tool.

Re:My best fit for Wave; (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32269060)

so you have to type your replies into a text editor and use copy/paste into Wave to make it useful? That really sucks.

Re:My best fit for Wave; (4, Informative)

radtea (464814) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268508)

After a couple hundred messages, you have to type each character and wait a second or two before you can type the next one.

I've found Wave basically unusable on my netbook with Firefox for much the same reason, even with small waves. The fastest it runs is unacceptabley slow, and this on a machine that is powerful enough to run OpenOffice acceptably fast.

Re:My best fit for Wave; (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32267806)

Let's see the kidney first.

Re:My best fit for Wave; (1)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268184)

PS: If you want a good message-board system, try BeeHive ( http://beehiveforum.sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net] )

No, it's not the same as Google Wave, but the threaded conversations are quite good.

Re:My best fit for Wave; (2, Interesting)

Brandee07 (964634) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268382)

My best use for Wave: FAQs.

It's honestly my only use for wave, but it's a good one. Someone asks a question, someone else answers, someone else corrects the answer, someone else provides links to citations.

An example, the wave I manage: https://wave.google.com/wave/waveref/googlewave.com/w+N0MhqpVgB [google.com]

Active discussions require a very active moderator to keep the wave from getting so large as to die the slow death of lag. Most collaborative documents are better handled in Google Docs. Random "which do you like best" polls should be purged from the internet in general.

Re:My best fit for Wave; (1)

LoudMusic (199347) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268736)

Seems like a lot of obscure collaboration tasks could take huge advantage of Wave. Like Mike's D&D email sessions.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/2010/5/19/ [penny-arcade.com]

In Wave you could have lots of people acting their roles and adding to the story while a plug-in handles random number generation for combat and such. It could use a Google Maps plug-in to run the map and position characters.

Re:My best fit for Wave; (1)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | more than 4 years ago | (#32269094)

We're using it at work for collaboration. it's freaking sweet. It's not perfect but for free it *more* than meets our needs. I hardly hear anyone talking about wave. It's a shame imo, because it is pretty damn useful at least in certain circumstances.

Privacy (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32267576)

I just opted out as soon as possible, given Google's stance on privacy issues.

Re:Privacy (4, Insightful)

xZgf6xHx2uhoAj9D (1160707) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267706)

I don't understand. If you don't already have a Google account, then you wouldn't have to opt out. If you do already have a Google account, then you patently don't actually have a problem with their privacy policy, right?

Re:Privacy (1)

Bing Tsher E (943915) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267890)

The funny thing is, I use gmail for my email, but I download it from their POP server.

And I almost never, ever, log into Google using my browser, and generally log out as soon after as possible.

So they might be reading my email, but when you use POP it doesn't add any advertising to email message you download. And they can't spam my browser view with anything connected to my email.

Re:Privacy (3, Interesting)

BitZtream (692029) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268020)

You can turn off the advertising on the web interface as well, just go into your settings and turn it off.

Its optional, and on by default, its also so unintrusive that I actually turned it back on just because occasionally I'll see something I actually care to learn about and I'd rather they get some occasional cash for letting me use their services for free.

You do realize that if you never give them any incentive to give you the free service they will eventually stop giving it to you ... right?

Re:Privacy (1)

flintmecha (1134937) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268126)

they might be reading my email

You're not as important as you think you are.

Re:Privacy (1)

Bakkster (1529253) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268226)

But that avoids the question asked about the privacy policy. In your case, your issue is with advertising, yet you admit to having no issue with them reading your private e-mail.

Re:Privacy (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268810)

"they" aren't reading it, a program/system is analyzing the content.

I mean, Google has a policy that humans don't casually access the content, do you trust Google+that policy more or less than some mom-and-pop ISP?

Re:Privacy (1)

Bakkster (1529253) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268956)

"they" aren't reading it, a program/system is analyzing the content.

I know that, I'm just refering to what the GP said.

Re:Privacy (2, Interesting)

nacturation (646836) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267738)

I just opted out as soon as possible, given Google's stance on privacy issues.

I opted in as soon as possible, given Google's stance on privacy issues.

(My comment is as meaningless as yours if you're not going to elaborate at least a little.)

Re:Privacy (1)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267762)

...Because there are really a lot of other providers offering this?

Being privacy conscious is a good thing, however there comes a time where you have to see the risk to benefit ratio at the moment leans heavily towards using Google's services.

If you want to be completely anonymous, don't use any services by any web provider and encrypt all traffic and use Tor and all that fun stuff, but you won't really experience the web and it won't make you productive.

If there are other super-private services that do all the things Google does, switch to them. Considering that there aren't, Google is your best bet.

Re:Privacy (0, Troll)

somersault (912633) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268102)

It makes you wonder, what kind of embarrassing porn are these guys into that their privacy is such a big deal..? "gaymidgetsinleatherbikiniseatingoverripebananas.com"? Honestly, I understand security concerns, but I don't get the whole online "privacy" issue unless you're actually doing something illegal.

Re:Privacy (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32268660)

I don't get the whole online "privacy" issue unless you're actually doing something illegal.

Ahh the "if you have nothing to hide" fallacy again. Meanwhile, here in the real world, Mark Zuckerberg thinks people like you are 'dumb fucks' [google.com]

In future, so that some poor soul may be spared from having to call you on this fallacy, simply state as follows...

"I am a dumb fuck!"

That would be a more accurate and advanced assertion than the text quoted above and nobody would have reason to challenge you on it. Thank you.

Re:Privacy (1)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267816)

I'm confused - Google Wave is something you have to specifically sign up for, not opt in to. And up until today you've had to ask someone for an invitation to join.

Or are you confusing it with Google Buzz?

Re:Privacy (1)

oldspewey (1303305) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267868)

I'd tell you to be careful opting out of Google [theonion.com] , but you're probably in a place where you can't read this reply anyhow.

Re:Privacy (1)

WeatherGod (1726770) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268026)

Are you confusing Buzz and Wave? They are two different things.

Re:Privacy (1)

smoothnorman (1670542) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268100)

Yes they are. As a public service, please list the differences here?

Re:Privacy (1)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268236)

Well, for one, Buzz was the one they shoved down your throat and you had to opt out of, and was a bit of a privacy debacle.

Wave was the one that you not only had to go looking for, but you had to request an invite which took weeks to arrive (or you had to know someone who had a free invite they could give you).

So "opting out" of Wave is technically not possible. You have to go looking for it.

Buzz was largely considered "Wave Lite" by many of us who used Wave before Buzz came out. It's a bit more social network and a bit less collaboration, though there is significant overlap in the functions of the two.

Re:Privacy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32268242)

Oh and what's that then? The same policies that every single other entity has to comply with regardless of their opinion on it?
Yeah, grow up please and stop being childish over his comments. He was just reiterating what the truth is.

I bet you're using Bing just to be a total rebel, right? Because Microsoft are totally trustworthy, am i right?
Funny how they happily handed search results over without hesitation where Google fought against it.
And before someone jumps in and mentions how "google have personal information", i can bet my left testicle that you have googled yourself before. If not, you aren't normal.
You go you rebel you, stick it to Eric!

You already don't have privacy just by being on this website, despite you not posting with an account.
You already don't have privacy just by being part of society, actually.
From the very day you were born, you lost your privacy.

Surf's Up! (5, Insightful)

MarbleMunkey (1495379) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267582)

Seriously, though, I consider myself a reasonably bright software programmer, and I'm still unsure exactly what it is I'm supposed to be using Goole Wave for. Maybe I just don't communicate with enough people via electronic means...

Re:Surf's Up! (5, Funny)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267644)

> I'm still unsure exactly what it is I'm supposed to be using Google Wave
> for.

The video makes that quite clear: creating a hideous garbled mess of crap.

Re:Surf's Up! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32267826)

LOL, yeah. I kinda got that impression too.
  A garbled heap of other peoples' crap.

And Chrome on top of it. Yuck.

Re:Surf's Up! (2, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268108)

So it's basically like MySpace then?

not like myspace (1)

jDeepbeep (913892) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268406)

So it's basically like MySpace then?

It's a 'real-time' collaboration tool / toolkit. You could build forum software that leverages Wave functionality, however.

Re:Surf's Up! (1)

Laserwulf (951642) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267978)

I could see Wave being used for event planning among friends/family. Being able to post maps, photos, and other widgets would make it an alternative to Facebook events.

Or... group projects for HS/college classes would be easier than emailing updates to a single document back&forth among 6 people. (Yes, there are ways like shared online storage, but Wave allows for simultaneous editing.)

Re:Surf's Up! (1)

sunderland56 (621843) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268468)

The only reason I can think of: to avoid SEC regulations on the retention of email.

In other words: if you want to have a company discussion, electronically, but avoid all record of it in case the government comes snooping: use Wave. Otherwise, just use email as usual. And yes, I'm sure that the SEC will catch on eventually, but for a few years, you're golden.

Re:Surf's Up! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32268634)

Enter the wonderful world of instante messaging that existed years before Google Wave and also feel free to use the thing called phone sometimes too.

SahrePoint alternative (1)

Itninja (937614) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267596)

I remember when Wave was first being mentioned as a replacement for SharePoint Server (MOSS). Not sure if it's still thought of that way. From what I've seen in Wave, I doubt it could do the same job....

Yes, open to all... (4, Insightful)

tarsi210 (70325) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267610)

...and still just as useless. Well, ok -- non-realtime collaborative efforts, perhaps. Brainstormings. Things like that.

But after it takes you 3 years to get everyone on Google, set up, working right (damned ad-block), etc. and THEN you can start working together -- oh, but wait, half the people don't know how to use Wave, so you have to teach them how to use it -- yes, dammit, it's more than just IM, it's all sorts of...oh, read the docs, won't you? -- THEN you can finally get down to working on the pro....

What? You have to go? Oh, I guess we DID spend the entire 2-hour meeting setting this crap up. Fine, reschedule for another day. AND ON A PHONE THIS TIME.

Re:Yes, open to all... (1)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267758)

What? You have to go? Oh, I guess we DID spend the entire 2-hour meeting setting this crap up.

Sounds par-for-the-course for Arkham Horror night at our apartment :p

Re:Yes, open to all... (1)

inerlogic (695302) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267898)

par for the course? newb...

Re:Yes, open to all... (1)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267932)

We just got the game a month ago, clod!

Re:Yes, open to all... (1)

radtea (464814) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268454)

Get "The King in Yellow" expansion. Most perfectly balanced co-operative game ever.

Re:Yes, open to all... (1)

MindStalker (22827) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267836)

Have you tried it recently? Its significantly improved. Yes it DID suck last year.

Re:Yes, open to all... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32268584)

Now it blows!

Re:Yes, open to all... (1)

quintesse (654840) | more than 4 years ago | (#32269004)

I still think they should just integrate it somehow with GMail like they did for Buzz

wave (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32267622)

Shiny

To quote Triumph (5, Funny)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267660)

"Shhh, shhh, shhh, listen, listen closely, hear that? It's the sound of nobody giving a shit!"

big deal (0, Offtopic)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267674)

google just open sourced vp8 [blogspot.com] . That means we can stop eating the ogg theora shit sandwich and start using a codec that doesn't suck ass.

Re:big deal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32267768)

A first in depth analysis of VP8 [multimedia.cx] for those interested. It also includes screenshots comparing it with other formats.

Re:big deal (1)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267842)

Open source doesn't mean anything when the codec can still be patented and then we get into patent messes.

Still 'beta' though, right? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32267684)

Last I checked, you still can't upload an avatar and nobody wanted one of the 30-ish invites I had on my account. Compared to dedicated webapps (eg: project management, bug tracking, photo sharing, file sharing, email, blogs, CMS and forums) it could be used for the lot, but only by dim-fools who remain ignorant of the greatly superior alternatives availiable. Other than that, it's an amusing XSS platform. Where we used to fuck with people on IRC, kids these days will do it via Google Wave.

I suspect that the only real "waving" new users will be doing is bye-bye to this over-glorified web site.

Does anybody have any links to news sites? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32267752)

First Digg became basically not safe for work. Now it looks like slashdot is following in its footsteps.

Does anybody here have links to tech/geek news sites that they can view while at their desk job? I've been loyal to slashdot for over 10 years, digg has turned to "potty humor".

Re:Does anybody have any links to news sites? (1)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267814)

Um, how is /. NSFW? There was a video clearly demonstrating Pulp Fiction done with Google Wave which was clearly labeled as NSWF. Unless you click on the play button, everything is perfectly safe for work. Just don't click links where you don't want to go (stay away from any link with goat in its name...) and /. is perfectly work safe.

NSFW (1)

jDeepbeep (913892) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268426)

Um, how is /. NSFW?

Because when I am on /. I am supposed to be working, but I am on /. instead.

Nothing Fucking Wrong With Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32267818)

Fuckin' A!

Re:Does anybody have any links to news sites? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32268140)

Nothing new to see here. Think before you follow a link offsite, just like in the goatse days. At least you were warned about the content on the other side this time.

Do not tell me about this wave thing... (1)

bogaboga (793279) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267834)

....till I can send an email right from the wave interface. Why is this still impossible? Google, wake up!

Re:Do not tell me about this wave thing... (4, Insightful)

MisterZimbu (302338) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268898)

This.

Google Wave has to actually be forwards and backwards compatible with e-mails if it ever stands a chance of replacing it. That means people seamlessly being about to send e-mails to myaddress@googlewave.com and having them appear in my inbox, and having my replies (as waves) send out e-mails as replies if any of the participants in the wave is an "e-mail" participant.

And bots really don't count. It has to be tightly integrated into the system.

Been using it for months (4, Interesting)

Ngarrang (1023425) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267864)

I have been using Google Wave for months now. It works well once you figure out how to use it and for what you can use it effectively. I have been using it to collaborate with fellow musicians. In real-time, we hammer out lyrics, instruments parts, ideas, etc. Record something, most the MP3, share the bits that way, and the guy that is the best with the mixing software does the final mixes, shares the results. It has been fast and effective.

Re:Been using it for months (4, Insightful)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268296)

I think the beauty, and problem, of Wave is that it's very unstructured. It can be exactly what you want it to be, but if you don't know what you want you'll just end up with a mess. People approach it like project management software, or Instant Messenger, or email, or some concept they are used to, and discover that the people they are collaborating with are using it based on another concept.

Wave is like a big box of Lego. You can build some really cool stuff with it, if you know what you want to build up front. It can build things more easily and conveniently than many other tools. But if you just start mashing pieces together without a shared vision of what you are doing, it's a complete clusterfuck.

Well, that, and once you get past a few hundred collaborators or a few hundred posts on a specific Wave, the software slows down to a bind-bogglingly-painful crawl. But for small collaboration projects, it's quite good. If all of you decide how you are going to use it up-front.

Re:Been using it for months (3, Funny)

fahrbot-bot (874524) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268564)

I have been using Google Wave for months now.
It works well once you figure out how to use it and for what you can use it effectively....

I thought the same thing about my penis.
Admittedly, I can't share MP3s with it, like Google Wave, but other collaboration is a go...

WTF? (5, Insightful)

chill (34294) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267884)

Someone explain to my why whomever it was felt it was okay to transcribe half the curse words in the English language, but had to leave out "God Damn"?

Fuck him like a bitch is okay.
Mutherfuckaaa is okay.
All the rest is okay, but "God Damn" is censored?

Pussies.

Re:WTF? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32268048)

;\pussies

Re:WTF? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32268298)

Well God never said cussing was a sin. You just can't use his name in vain.

Re:WTF? (1)

game kid (805301) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268708)

They're obviously scared of spreading a Chris Tucker meme [youtube.com] .

unfair advantage (1)

digitalsushi (137809) | more than 4 years ago | (#32267906)

This wave demo uses kinetic typography to make it (more) interesting. Google wave is interesting, but this cake was delivered with frosting I didn't ask for.

I like this demonstration better (1)

moco (222985) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268006)

Not a rickroll [youtube.com]

Re:I like this demonstration better (1)

ngc5194 (847747) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268314)

What I find interesting is that I actually learned more about how to use Wave from this one than from the Pulp Fiction demo.

Brainstorming? (1)

nitsew (991812) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268018)

I am not so sure I would want google to see/store any brainstorming my company is doing. I know they are not evil, and have great privacy policies... wait... what?

Re:Brainstorming? (1)

nj_peeps (1780942) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268176)

I can see this only really taking off, if they completely open the rest of the code (web front end) so that each company could run their own fully functional wave server. Then you wouldn't have to worry bout Google's privacy (or lack there of) policies. I seem to remember them saying something about this in the kickoff from last year's IO...

Re:Brainstorming? (1)

Daengbo (523424) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268358)

There are now multiple implementations of the federated server protocol, and Google is releasing client APIs so that anyone could write a client.

And nothing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32268066)

And nothing of value was gained.

Proof of concept (1)

ScottyMcScott (1003155) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268364)

This video proved Google wave can become 4chan 2.0.

The Media-soaked Mind (1)

Dripdry (1062282) | more than 4 years ago | (#32268490)

Holy shit, it's like they were able to see inside my mind for 5 minutes!
I don't know if I should feel scared, in awe, or just regard Wave as another amusing internet sprocket. I can't say I've contributed anything to this discussion other than "Hey that's really COOL!"

Never join a Club (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32268688)

Never join a club that will have you as a member. The elite Google invitation only betas - GMail was the worst - give you time to decide that whatever it was you can really live without it.

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