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First Pandora Console Reaches Customer

Soulskill posted more than 4 years ago | from the insert-pandora's-unboxing-pun-here dept.

Emulation (Games) 271

neogramps writes "It's been a long time coming, but the first Pandora consoles are finally rolling off of the production line. (Well, this one actually walked out the door to a customer who lived near the 'factory.') Initial estimates had put production and development at taking two months, but Murphy had other ideas. Banking issues, design problems, problems communicating with the Chinese moulding company, escalating assembly costs, and even a volcano all managed to get in the way, but the small and dedicated team soldiered on, and just over a year and a half later, the wait is coming to an end for the 4,000 pre-orderers."

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Soldiered? (4, Funny)

TeknoHog (164938) | more than 4 years ago | (#32314756)

Shouldn't that be "soldered"?-)

Re:Soldiered? (1)

slick7 (1703596) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315164)

Shouldn't that be "soldered"?-)

No.

Re:Soldiered? (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315200)

Well, that's what the director of the Chinese EE material recycling factory employing mostly army rookies said with his broken English: "We're here to turn boys into solders".

Re:Soldiered? (1)

daveime (1253762) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315578)

Tin soldiers ? Lead is a banned substance.

Re:Soldiered? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32315662)

Banned where?

Re:Soldiered? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32315680)

Do you live in some alternate China where lead in even FOOD is considered safe?

Re:Soldiered? (1)

DaveAtWorkAnnoyingly (655625) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315830)

hah, until I read your comment, that's what I thought it did say...

I cant believe (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32314758)

I cant believe this is the only way to get the mobile version of Duke Nukem Forever!

Super! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32314774)

Gay!

Already seems obsolete.... (4, Insightful)

ZosX (517789) | more than 4 years ago | (#32314818)

2 years ago these specs would have been exciting, but with smartphones already pushing over 1ghz and 512mb ram, I don't see the appeal. Pandora seems destined to be an emulator lover's delight and not much more. Sure you can run android on it, but it only has a 600mhz processor and 256mb ram. The same specs as a motorola droid. I guess $300 is an ok price to play every console game before the playstation, but my laptop does that and has a nice big screen too. 2 years ago I would have drooled at this machine (and I did), but anymore it seems like it will be so radically obsolete in a short period of time. My phone is already portable internet enough for me. If anything, I'd much rather have a nice 8-10" tablet that I can share my phone's 3g connection with. Once the tablets start getting near the $300 price point, I think things will get pretty interesting. I guess you could say that the pandora is like the ultimate portable console, but only if you don't want to play any newer games.

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (4, Interesting)

Drethon (1445051) | more than 4 years ago | (#32314876)

Specs may not longer be the best but personally I want the full keyboard and analog controls. Perhaps if this version is successful the package can be upgraded to something more cutting edge with less delays.

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32314960)

Like he said, it's directly comparable to the Motorola Droid / Milestone, which has a full hardware keyboard and D-pad. You can buy a cheap bit of plastic to fit over the keyboard that turns it into something very close to a proper game controller. Yeah, an unlocked contract-free Milestone will run you a bit over $450, but it's also a nicely-sized phone, and it runs Android apps.

If you want a good mobile gaming platform, a Nintendo DS or PSP is about $150. If you want a good, *open* mobile gaming platform, get a recent Android phone. Even just a touchscreen and a trackball ain't bad when the game was designed with that in mind. This is a device that desperately needs to be Android-based if it wants the slightest hope of success. I'm writing a little Android-based RPG. There's very little chance I'd bother porting it to a totally different device that has almost zero users.

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (1)

migla (1099771) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315608)

I don't see why there would be any major difficulties getting Android and Meego and [KXLU]buntu to run on the pandora.

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (2, Insightful)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315362)

Except for the analog controls, I don’t see where the N900 does not beat it in any way...

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (2, Informative)

migla (1099771) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315580)

> Except for the analog controls, I don't see where the N900 does not beat it in any way...

Keyboard and price, also.

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (1)

PiSkyHi (1049584) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315784)

Actually it's just analog controls and price - you are paying for the analog controls and real USB ports - everything else about the N900 is better than Pandora, so its probably not worth it now.

Since Nokia's Qt now has multi-touch, I'm betting a new Nokia device with Meego and a capacitive touchscreen will be out within a year.

I really hope it has real host USB ports since that is ruining my overall N900 experience.

I don't think they will drop the keyboard, they know they don't need to copy Apple to be better at this.

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (2, Insightful)

Jaysyn (203771) | more than 4 years ago | (#32314986)

My PSP does that & plays all my old PSX games. I got it for $100 used. True it's a little slower & doesn't have a touchscreen, but it works really good for what I need it for. I do hope the Pandora takes off however, I'd like to see every kind of consumer entertainment electronics with an open version legally available.

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32315134)

sure, your psp is a gaming device,

this one apart can be used for internet, word processing, even programing wardriving and other stuff.
not to say the massive 10+ h of gaming, surfing and much more as a average mp3.

this thing equals a mp3, multimedia player, netpc, gaming device, with excellent hardware interface, plus a TV out and much more

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (1)

Josh04 (1596071) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315430)

Oh yes, wardriving, that thing which people still do.

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (2, Insightful)

gilesjuk (604902) | more than 4 years ago | (#32314996)

It's still a good unit because of the controls, the fact it is open and the fact that the CPU is good enough to run numerous emulators.

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32315006)

You say that it can play every console game before the Playstation, but you don't realize that there is already a PSX emulator, an N64 emulator (in development), and people have started working on Dreamcast and PSP emulators. It has more power than you think. Also, keep in mind the fact that many of the emulator developers for the iProducts have their roots in the GP32X community, and will be putting a lot of work into getting their emus running especially well on the Pandora.

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32315010)

That is exactly what I was thinking. Even a Zune HD is a more capable gaming system than the Pandora is these days and it costs less too. For about the same cost as the Pandora, you could also pick up a Viliv pocket PC with a real x86 CPU (Atom 1.2GHz), 1024x600 res display and run anything that you could on a "real" fullsize PC.

I honestly don't see the niche that the Pandora is going to be able to fill. It's too expensive, the specs are no longer impressive and it doesn't have any support compared to other handhelds (homebrew based or not).

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32315046)

Pandora running mupen64plus:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPYDDFwyG0U [youtube.com]

Sure it's been ported to IPhone too, but would you really want to play this with a touchscreen?

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (5, Insightful)

ThoughtMonster (1602047) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315052)

Are you implying that our needs have changed so much during these two years?

I'm pretty sure that the Pandora is still the most powerful portable game console out there. The battery is a dog (10+ hours of gaming), the controls are said to be more than solid, and the platform (ARM Cortex-A8) is far from obsolete.

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32315474)

Pandora - ARM Cortex A8 600MHz, 256MB DDR-333 SDRAM, PowerVR SGX 530 110MHz
iPhone 3GS - ARM Cortex A8 833MHz, 256MB eDRAM, PowerVR SGX
Kin - Nvidia Tegra APX 2600 (Freescale MX31L ARM Core), 256MB SDRAM, ULP Nvidia GPU
Zune HD - Nvidia Tegra APX 2600 (ARM11+ARM7) 600MHz, 128MB SDRAM, ULP Nvidia GPU
Viliv S5 - Intel Atom Z520 1.33GHz, 1GB 533MHz DDR2 SDRAM, Intel GMA 500 (PowerVR SGX 535 core)

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (2, Insightful)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315540)

iPhone - Tied into an expensive contract, needs jailbroken to actually run anything decent, no hardware buttons

Kin - Tied into an expensive contract, UI fails, not open

Zune HD - Less RAM, less open, no hardware buttons

Viliv S5 - expensive, smaller, less dedicated community, expensive


The Pandora fills an important role: giving a reasonably powerful cheap-ish device in the hands of programmers and users. Its not going to outsell the DS or PSP, its not a phone, etc.

Yeah, the Pandora would have been much nicer had it shipped on time, but its still not a terrible device.

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (1)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315086)

Also it's not a console (i.e. sits in your entertainment center under your TV). It's a handheld. So when are we going to see the Phantom Console roll out? ;-)

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (1)

jo42 (227475) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315146)

It also looks like something out of the 80's.

You can get ARM9-based devices off of eBay for a third of the price:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Arm-Arm9-S3C2440-Dev-Board-NEC-3-5-touch-screen-/230443507542 [ebay.com]

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (2, Insightful)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315630)

And who -doesn't- want to have a dev board with sharp solder points stuck in their pocket? And who -doesn't- want to compile everything themselves and send it via the serial port? A dev board has its place, the one you linked to would be great for a small robotics project or even a little web-enabled alarm clock or something. For replacing the Pandora? No. The entire point why we buy "consumer" electronics is that most things are simply there, we download a few binaries a few ROMs and soon we are playing Super Mario World on it. We don't need to compile the kernel, fiddle around till we get X working, spend time optimizing it for speed, etc. There is a time and place for such things, the Pandora is filling a different niche.

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (1)

freedom_india (780002) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315202)

True. Well said. Its kinda past its prime. What can i do with Pandora that i cannot with an iPad or Kindle or even an iPod touch. Naaah. Its an idea past its prime. Probably, if they harden it for Military usage, they will get a steady stream of money every year.

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (0, Flamebait)

migla (1099771) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315770)

>What can i do with Pandora that i cannot with an iPad or Kindle or even an iPod touch.

Avoid sucking satans cock, figuratively speaking?

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315212)

I guess you could say that the pandora is like the ultimate portable console, but only if you don't want to play any newer games.

I don't know how much they're getting for these things, but they'd be a good deal at $200 or less. S-Video out is a little minimal now but not too bad, some devices still use composite, no kidding. But show me another device with similar specs and both keyboard and touch screen under $400, and I'll be impressed. (yes, the keyboard is pretty weak, but it's more than adequate for most phone-type tasks, so if you don't need your phone converged into the device, it's pretty sweet. theoretically.) If I could pay $200 cash for one, I'd be ecstatic! I never warmed to the idea of preordering for something that might not appear; I'm glad I was overly skeptical.

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (1)

Lemming Mark (849014) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315244)

Actually I was under the impression that the hardware was powerful enough to be capable of running Playstation and N64 games - the GP2X, it's spiritual predecessor, was basically "everything up to Playstation". The Pandora is still allegedly the most powerful dedicated gaming handheld (compared to eg. PSP and DS) and has a good range of controls and expansion. I think that makes it reasonably interesting even though it's not as powerful as a smartphone. It'd be nice if they were able to rev the hardware to be more competitive with the high end handhelds again, though - maybe once they've sold a few they'll be able to do that, now their production chain is established.

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (2, Interesting)

negRo_slim (636783) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315334)

2 years ago these specs would have been exciting

Yeah it's time to live in the now and solder together your own Fusebox [ladyada.net] .

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (1)

migla (1099771) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315538)

This is like having an N900 without the phone functionality, with a (probably) better keyboard and the controls for half the price. In other words like a low powered computer that fits in your pocket.

Pretty sweet in my opinion. If I had any money to waste, I'd get one just for the controls.

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315750)

Yup, and with 256MB of RAM it's quite interesting. I currently have a Nokia 770 as my pocket computer. Coupled with a folding bluetooth keyboard, it's a relatively nice system, but feels underpowered. The Pandora is about 4 times faster, has a decent GPU, and four times as much RAM. I don't really care about it as a games console, but as a machine I can slip in a pocket and got and work in in a cafe by the sea, rather than lugging a laptop around, it looks interesting.

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32315748)

Yeah, it looks like something Bill Gates in the 80' would have anticipated in the future. The design is utterly retro.

Re:Already seems obsolete.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32315862)

I originally was looking at this machine for Genesis (MegaDrive, whatever) emulation, but then managed to pick up a very cheap, flashable PSP. Now, instead of a machine that can only run emulators, I also have access to a decent library of modern games.

Pirated, of course. What, you expect me to pay for these things?

That's nice... (1)

the_humeister (922869) | more than 4 years ago | (#32314830)

but where are the games?

Re:That's nice... (3, Informative)

TrevorB (57780) | more than 4 years ago | (#32314928)

"but where are the games?"

http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi [openhandhelds.org]

It's an "open source" handheld with an eager development community, and games and other apps will come quickly once the hardware is released to the wild. By the time the pre-orders are complete and anyone not in the queue will be able to purchase one (and that will take a few months at this rate), there will be dozens of games available. Give it some time.

Riiiiight...... (2, Insightful)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315230)

Because there is such a vibrant open source game selection. I mean there's Tux Racer, that Civ 2 clone, that Puzzle Bobble Clone... ummm, did I mention Tux Racer?

Seriously, gaming is one area that OSS does not seem to do well in. There are very few OSS games out there, and they tend to be of poor quality and/or knockoff of old commercial games. Now compare that to the Nintendo DS's games library, which is what this will have to compete with by the way.

I just do not see the appeal.

I mean if you want a portable game unit, well then DS has this beat hands down. Not only does it have far, far, FAR more games and most of those are of professional quality, but it is cheaper too. It is between $170 (for the unit) to $200 (for the unit and all accessories).

Now this thing would also work as a simple, netbook type computer. Ok, except there again you can get another, better device: An actual netbook. For the same price ($330) you can get an MSI Wind U135 which has an Atom, 250GB HD, and Windows on it. There are far more games that'll run on that than this Pandora device.

As I said, I just fail to see the appeal.

Re:Riiiiight...... (1)

Pharmboy (216950) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315574)

Seriously, gaming is one area that OSS does not seem to do well in.

This is because of the cost to produce very high quality games for any platform. This is also what has been a deal killer for Linux on the desktop, but Steam will soon be ported to Linux (just anounced the Mac port) and a bunch of games will be released for Linux, mainly older ports but still. (The source engine's dedicated server has been Linux forever).

As a side note, the original Half Life, TFC, Counter Strike, Day of Defeat, and other mods made on the original HL engine would easily run on the Pandora, although some rewriting would be needed for the interface, as the text would be too small to read. True, this is NOT OSS games, but it is games that run on OSS platforms like Pandora, and there are generally enough similarities between Mac, Linux and Android to make some ports financially worthwhile for the lower number of users it would draw.

Personally, I don't require every piece of software I use to be OSS, although I would strongly prefer that the underlying operating system and security system be. I would be very happy to see a mix of software license types, as long as they are running on an open system.

Re:Riiiiight...... (1)

jimicus (737525) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315592)

Seriously, gaming is one area that OSS does not seem to do well in. There are very few OSS games out there, and they tend to be of poor quality and/or knockoff of old commercial games.

OSS doesn't tend to do very well in anything that involves a fair amount of tedium.

A game engine might conceivably be developed with F/OSS methods but the graphics (which may well require drawing a hundred variants of exactly the same thing) are going to stop being interesting long before they're completed.

Re:Riiiiight...... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32315692)

Emulators.

Re:Riiiiight...... (2, Interesting)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315698)

I mean if you want a portable game unit, well then DS has this beat hands down. Not only does it have far, far, FAR more games and most of those are of professional quality...

There isn't a single part of that statement that is true. The appeal of the Pandora is emulation. It can run MAME, SNES, DOS, Genesis, NES, Amiga, and a whole gaggle of stuff I think other people here have mentioned before. More importantly, it has a set of controls that really make that setup ideal to an enthusiast to somebody like me. It could probably even do N64, which would be totally tits.

I have a GP2X Wiz right now. It can run most of the stuff the Pandora can. Although I am a Nintendo fanboy and I love the DS, the Wiz is already far more likely to get put in my pocket for a long trip than the DS is. The Pandora is like the Wiz only with a broader emulation capability and much better controls.

The Pandora has a very strong and fairly unique appeal.

Re:That's nice... (1)

Kjella (173770) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315346)

So..... a more accurate headline would be "First Pandora Console Reaches Developer"? Time to market is the time until there's an offering in the market a normal customer would buy, which is why every other console bothers so much with launch day games. In a few months it's called summer and console sales are at their lowest, so in practice nobody will look at this before the autumn.

Obligatory XKCD... (1)

denzacar (181829) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315666)

It's an "open source" handheld with an eager development community, and games and other apps will come quickly once the hardware is released to the wild. By the time the pre-orders are complete and anyone not in the queue will be able to purchase one (and that will take a few months at this rate), there will be dozens of games available. Give it some time.

http://xkcd.com/644/ [xkcd.com]

Re:That's nice... (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 4 years ago | (#32314964)

That's a very good question. A year ago I was working for a significant games company that made exactly the sort of games that would suit this console. We certainly hadn't been contacted by the developers. If they had managed to persuade a few developers to take the risk and write something - even a simple puzzle game or a port of an existing title - this would have a lot more hope of taking off. Right now it looks like another cool but ultimately pointless geek curio.

Re:That's nice... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32315016)

http://twitpic.com/12oiqa - games in an appstore thingy!

Re:That's nice... (1)

migla (1099771) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315664)

According to the relevant Wikipedia page, you can get emulators for Dreamcast, PlayStation, Nintendo 64, Amiga, SNES, Atari Jaguar and Sega Mega Drive for the Pandora.

Seems underwhelming. (1, Insightful)

nxtw (866177) | more than 4 years ago | (#32314846)

The Droid Incredible [phonescoop.com] appears to be more powerful while weighing half as much and fitting in a pocket comfortably. Just add a game controller...

Re:Seems underwhelming. (3, Interesting)

TrevorB (57780) | more than 4 years ago | (#32314992)

"fitting in a pocket comfortably. Just add a game controller..."

I don't mean to sound too sarcastic, but if you have a link for a game controller that fits comfortably in a pocket, I'd like to see it.

Re:Seems underwhelming. (1)

nxtw (866177) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315036)

The device itself fits in a pocket comfortably. Not the game controller.

Re:Seems underwhelming. (1)

TrevorB (57780) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315078)

My point being that the Pandora comes with d-pad and 2 analog controllers built into the system as well as a full thumb keyboard. Certainly it's twice the weight and size (about the size of an original Nintendo DS), but with good reason.

It doesn't matter what either of us say, the market will be a final arbiter of this beastie...

Re:Seems underwhelming. (5, Insightful)

migla (1099771) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315720)

> the market will be a final arbiter of this beastie...

Market schmarket. This is the most powerful handheld gaming device out there, running linux, developed by and for an enthusiast community. As far as I'm concerned it is allready a success.

Re:Seems underwhelming. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32315084)

And the pandora has both which fits in a pocket.

Re:Seems underwhelming. (1)

nxtw (866177) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315124)

And the pandora has both which fits in a pocket.

it's bigger than a fat Nintendo DS. A Nintendo DS Lite doesn't fit in my pockets comfortably.

Re:Seems underwhelming. (1)

binarylarry (1338699) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315320)

They're designed by Japanese people who are typically fairly small statured.

So you must be some kind of midget or wear *really* tight pants.

Re:Seems underwhelming. (1)

Stormwatch (703920) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315432)

How about this? [genius-europe.com]

Re:Seems underwhelming. (1)

TrevorB (57780) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315576)

Cool, thanks for the link..

Ironically also called "Pandora"

Re:Seems underwhelming. (1)

adolf (21054) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315696)

How do I connect this to a Droid?

Re:Seems underwhelming. (1)

spire3661 (1038968) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315882)

A wiimote can be used as a Bluetooth HID, fits easily in a pocket....

Insightful? (3, Insightful)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315278)

Yeah, it is a far better game platform, except for the controls but who needs controls to play a game?

Talk about not getting the point. This ain't about CPU power, it is about having all those controls available on the hardware.

What next, an article on a sports car being slammed because a jet fighter is far faster so race that instead?

Re:Insightful? (1)

nxtw (866177) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315354)

Yeah, it is a far better game platform, except for the controls but who needs controls to play a game?

Touch screen and motion controls.

Of course, touch screens aren't that useful when playing (probably pirated) games in emulators.

Re:Seems underwhelming. (1)

Mr. Slippery (47854) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315470)

The Droid Incredible appears to be more powerful while weighing half as much and fitting in a pocket comfortably.

And therefore having a much smaller screen and keyboard. (Does the Incredible even have a real keyboard?)

The "bigger than a cellphone, smaller than a netbook" size is useful for many things. It's good for gaming, as the success of the Ninendo DS shows. It's a better size for watching videos or reading e-books than a phone, while still fitting -- if awkwardly -- into a pocket. It's also good for writing -- my Zaurus CL-3000 [mobiletechreview.com] goes to bars and coffeehouses, on planes and trains, and lets me work on poems and essays with much more convenience than if I were trying to edit text on my Centro.

I'm not much of a gamer, but I might be interested in a Pandora as a replacement when my beloved Zaurus eventually gives up the ghost.

Re:Seems underwhelming. (1)

nxtw (866177) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315518)

And therefore having a much smaller screen and keyboard. (Does the Incredible even have a real keyboard?)

The Incredible screen is 3.7" vs. 4.3" for the Pandora. Both have 800x480 resolution...
And no, the Incredible does not have a keyboard.

Re:Seems underwhelming. (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315726)

Just add a game controller...

Uh huh...

"A Honda Civic is much cheaper than the pickup truck you want. Just add a trailer..."

Summary is way too generous (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32314892)

The Pandora team has repeatedly promised a product merely months away from completion. That they could be so consistently wrong again and again so many times is implausible. On the other hand, getting random people on the internet to fund your startup for $1 million+ based on a product that won't be released for years is much less likely than getting them to pay for a product "only two months away." This is the far more likely motivation for the ridiculous number of missed ship dates.

Poor pandorapress... (4, Informative)

TrevorB (57780) | more than 4 years ago | (#32314894)

Looks like Gruso's blog got slashdotted pretty quickly.

Here's some more links to keep people occupied:

Official Site: http://www.open-pandora.org/ [open-pandora.org]
Wikipedia Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_(console) [wikipedia.org]
Pandora forums on GP32X: http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/forum/61-pandora/ [gp32x.com]
Craig Rothwell's Twitter feed (all kids of pics there): http://twitter.com/craigix [twitter.com]

Pandora? (4, Funny)

gyrogeerloose (849181) | more than 4 years ago | (#32314896)

Don't open the box!

team soldiered on (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32314898)

Anyone else read this as "soldered on"?

Anon

Dead link fix (2, Informative)

masterwit (1800118) | more than 4 years ago | (#32314958)

Lovely accessed denied... just a snapshot of site:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Oa6IgGHvHHUJ:pandorapress.net/+site:pandorapress.net+pandorapress.net&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us [googleusercontent.com]
That is Google cache version, not really helpful imo.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/20/gp2x-community-system-dubbed-pandora/ [engadget.com]
There is your engadget version, they always have nice pretty pictures there.

Re:Dead link fix (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32315398)

I guess it's good for emulation and open-source games, but not so much for heavy-duty serving. Come on, where's my rugged pocketable device that can take sand, humidity and a slashdotting and just keep going?

Four thousand (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32314970)

When no one was looking, Pandora took four thousand pre orders. It took 4000 thousand pre orders. That's as many as four thousands. And that's terrible.

Re:Four thousand (1)

B1oodAnge1 (1485419) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315060)

well, it's certainly not over nine thousand...

I see what you did there (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32315402)

When no one was looking, Pandora took four thousand pre orders. It took 4000 thousand pre orders. That's as many as four thousands. And that's terrible.

Pfft. I'll start worrying when it's over nine thousand.

Re:Four thousand (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315738)

That's not a sign of popularity, that's as many as they could commit to building.

It is very much a guerilla operation and not a competitor to the DS, PSP, or even the GP2x. Show a little respect.

Anonymous Coward (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32315038)

i just don't get the "just add a game controller"... Are you guys carrying a controller permanently? Buy a netbook then!
Pandora is about being pocketable, running a full Linux distro and having full gaming controls... please don't compare it to phones and non-qwerty gaming handhelds...

Re:Anonymous Coward (1)

nxtw (866177) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315184)

I don't carry a game controller because I play touchscreen games on my touchscreen phone.

Pandora is certainly not pocketable.

Re:Anonymous Coward (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32315370)

if Nintendo DS is pocketable, Pandora is as well

Re:Anonymous Coward (1)

nxtw (866177) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315408)

if Nintendo DS is pocketable, Pandora is as well

Nintendo DS is not pocketable. The DS Lite is, uncomfortably.

Re:Anonymous Coward (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315790)

Pandora is certainly not pocketable.

My Nokia 770 and a folding keyboard fit together in an inside jacket pocket. The Pandora is a similar size to the 770 alone (0.4mm taller, 0.5mm deeper) and weights the same amount. The 770 fits very comfortably in a jacket pocket, without deforming the outline at all - it's smaller than a large wallet.

YOU FAIL IT?! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32315042)

blue, (rubber lead to 'cleaner perspective, the head spinning formed his own Ones in Vsoftware

Deja vu all over again (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32315062)

Gosh, their logo looks familiar, I wonder where [fsdn.com] I could have seen it before.

So, does Zoe come included??? YUM!!!!! :-) (1)

spazekaat (991287) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315076)

If I buy one of those, does Zoe-whats-her-name come with the package???? Tall (10 ft!). blue-skinned, nice real piece of tail....every basement boy's dream... :-)))))))))))

Soon to be sued by Pandora Radio? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32315080)

Seems like a name/trademark conflict as they could reasonably be considered to be in the same target market space.

emulation? (0, Offtopic)

Rikiji7 (1182159) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315176)

If focus is on emulation [youtube.com] , it's coming a little bit late, since PSP runs almost any console game up to N64/PSX.

Re:emulation? (1)

orthicviper (1800010) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315312)

i dont think psp is powerful enough to run an NTSC SNES game well. besides, since the pandora is open, i expect programmers will take a stronger liking to optimizing their programs for it. they might know how to take advantage of it's hardware better since sony probably keeps the best psp programming secrets for themselves.

Linux gaming (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32315348)

Thank God, now I can play every poorly interfaced subpar clone on Sourceforge on a moble device.

Re:Linux gaming (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32315742)

I tried to play one of the Total Annihilation clones on the SpringRTS engine.

I was laughing so hard at the horrible user interface I nearly cried. After a few minutes of fucking with it, and not feeling the urge to read manuals, I gave up and went back to Supreme Commander.

I have been dieing to get my hands on one of these (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32315444)

This seems to be the only device that fits in your pocket, has reasonable specs, and isn't crippled by the manufacturer to lock us in/extort us. I want to run Linux on this thing with a CLI and play classic PC games like Duke3D, Doom, Quake, etc. I don't give a rat's behind about phone functionality, or if it is what all the hip and trendy people cary around.

I also want to use this thing to replace my Cowon D2 as a PMP.

Ordering (1)

Fenax (1094827) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315528)

Sooo when will I be able to order one ?

Niche-market (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32315624)

Let's put it this way then: are you all about retrogaming? If yes, Pandora is for you; if not, go buy a PSP or be an Apple fanboy. Thanks. Goodbye

How open is the software/hardware? (2, Interesting)

Qubit (100461) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315714)

I've been looking at their site and wikipedia and I haven't dug much up. There are a number of commercial chips in there, so the hardware is largely closed.

They're using a "PowerVR SGX530" in there, and IIRC the PowerVR chips don't usually have FOSS drivers, so you might be SOL on that software front.

Anyone have links or notes for the rest of the drivers?

Re:How open is the software/hardware? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32315740)

I've been looking at their site and wikipedia and I haven't dug much up. There are a number of commercial chips in there, so the hardware is largely closed.

They're using a "PowerVR SGX530" in there, and IIRC the PowerVR chips don't usually have FOSS drivers, so you might be SOL on that software front.

Anyone have links or notes for the rest of the drivers?

go here and make your questions. There are lots of fanboys awaiting for you
http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/forum/62-general-talk-pandora/

Re:How open is the software/hardware? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32315878)

That's right, it's not really an open hardware projects, though the board is rather hacker friendly with solder pads for e.g. JTAG and GPIOs. It mostly just runs open source software.
For 3D acceleration the the PowerVR drivers needs some binaries for the kernel module to work, but AFAIK the rest of the drivers are all open source. The wireless was closed at an earlier point, but was open sourced by Nokia for the N900. The rest of the OS is Linux with some open source code for menus and such.

Shouldn't the headline read... (1)

vranash (594439) | more than 4 years ago | (#32315816)

First Pandora's Box opened!
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