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Study Finds That "Extreme Gamers" Play 48 Hours a Week

Soulskill posted more than 4 years ago | from the i-blame-blizzard dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Think you're a big gamer? According to a new study from market research firm NPD Group, to be considered among the real hardcore you'll need to play an average of 48.5 hours a week — nearly seven hours a day. This group of gamers is, on average, '29 years old, and — perhaps surprisingly — one-third of them are female. They're more likely to play on consoles than on the PC, and on average they've purchased 24 titles in the past three months — a bill that could easily run over a thousand dollars. But dedicated though they may be, the Extreme Gamers are just a small minority: a mere 4% of the US's 174-million-strong gaming public. '"

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Pfft (3, Funny)

kiwizoid (1531455) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454632)

Amateurs.

Linux for Gays (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32454648)

A Linux distribution for gays? It's more likely [google.com] than you'd think.

Re:Linux for Gays (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32454804)

I thought they were all for gays...

Re:Pfft yourself! (4, Informative)

Fluffeh (1273756) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454920)

Amateurs.

No not really, I am in one of the top Warcraft Guilds and have been so since MC was the dungeon to raid (which I wear with pride) but at the same time, playing for about 40 hours a week has just gotten too much. I can totally corroborate that article.

To be in a guild like ours, you are expected to attend 4-5 raid nights a week, which generally last 3-5 hours. That's pure raid time though, so add a half hour before that to stock up on consumables, ensure that gear is enchanted/gemmed and that sort of thing. Then of course you need some time to make some cash to buy all this stuff, so generally add in at least a half hour a day for dailies - an hour if you want to do a random daily and get the extra badgers.

Oh yeah, then add in time for ALT runs, or weekend (our guild doesn't do official raids on Friday/Saturday night) booze runs, and that's another good few hours (drunken runs take the longest - but are generally most fun) and soon, you are very very easily up to around that 40 hour week or more.

For me, it just got to be too much time. I don't enjoy playing unless it's at the pointy end of the spectrum, so I have pretty much given it away. I still log on now and again to keep in touch, chat and have a giggle, but it's amazing how much time in your life you get back when you stop a schedule like that.

FYI, I chose to stop that raid schedule when I was struggling to wake up each morning (I work Mon-Fri and leave home at 7am) and it was becoming increasingly hard to wake up on time (read: started being late 2-3 times a week) after finishing raids at midnight or later. For me, the maths was really easy - raid and have fun with online friends or keep steady well paying job.

Re:Pfft yourself! (2)

fractoid (1076465) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455020)

For me, the maths was really easy - raid and have fun with online friends or keep steady well paying job.

I'm glad you made the healthy choice. It's fun to just let yourself disappear into a game like WoW, but eventually you have to come out the other side. I've done the 60+ hours a week thing, I'm now down to something like 5-10 hours a week, mostly on the weekends.

Re:Pfft yourself! (4, Interesting)

MachDelta (704883) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455110)

I was there too, except I was one of the idiots trying to wrangle 39 other idiots (read: guild officer). At the time I had just graduated from high school and due to a traumatic experience or two (not what you think but too long to detail) I staunchly refused to attend post-secondary or any other school-like institution. So I spent 8-12 hours a day on WoW, building my toon up and helping to run a whole guild instead. Surprisingly it was pretty good management training. In any case, we did the whole "best guild on server, #1 in MC, BWL, AQ40, Naxx, etc" thing, climbed into the top 100 NA guilds at one point, and shortly before the first expansion hit I had burnt out. I quit pretty much cold turkey and with some help from my parents and my now girlfriend, i've never been back. I feel like i've conquered the essence of that game and any new attempts would just be the same shit in a new pile. Now i've got something MUCH more challenging to worry about: University. :)

Anyways, just wanted to say that there are probably almost as many ex-WoW addicts as there are current ones. Coca^H^H^H^H WoW's a hell of a drug.

Re:Pfft yourself! (4, Funny)

pcolaman (1208838) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455260)

But dude, they are about to release a new expansion!

Re:Pfft yourself! (5, Funny)

Lord_of_the_nerf (895604) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455172)

FYI, I chose to stop that raid schedule when I was struggling to wake up each morning....

I chose to stop when I realised the smell I complained about to my landlord was me.

Re:Pfft yourself! (1)

the_humeister (922869) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455274)

Haha! I can relate. During my residency I was playing Guild Wars for 6 hours a night. Near the end, I had to sell my computer in order to study for my board exam.

Re:Pfft yourself! (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32455554)

I don't mean to one up you, but I feel I should share a story from the top 1%.

I'm a former world first raider from EverQuest 1, and have been a top north american FPS competitor since back in the Quake 3 days until about 2 years ago in Counter-Strike:Source and 1.6. I've run 8-9 hour raids in EQ 1, and farmed things (ie. ToV key, stuipd fucking rare skeleton) for over 60 hours before straight. If 40 hours qualifies the top 4%, I'd consider myself formerly in the top 1%. Some years back (2006?) I quit EQ1 for WoW because I couldn't do it anymore. I'd gone to rehab for EQ1 and, the first day after getting out I walked nearly 2 hours in the middle of the night to a friends place (didnt have a car at the time) who was up all night to borrow his EQ 1 cds, walked home and was playing again before dawn.

It probably sounds odd to think of someone saying Molten Core and BWL (never did Naxxramas though) were "casual" for me, but that's exactly what it was. I was in the 2nd place guild on my server in Vanilla, the first on alliance in early TBC, second on server (horde) in late TBC, first (horde) in early WotLK, and now first (alliance) in late WotLK. I raid 3-5 nights a week as you say, for 4 hours of pure raid time per night, I have 5 80 alts - 4 of them ICC geared, 2 of them 2k+ rated in pvp on all 3 teams. I know this is abnormal, "extreme" but looking back on my EQ1 life I still feel casual by comparison. That shit was crazy.

Probably my favorite EQ 1 story of addiction (favorite as in the most telling, imo) was 2 wizards (husband and wife) in my guild, who were hooked on meth - started playing EverQuest 1 - and just one day completely forgot to score more meth because they couldn't leave EQ - and quit cold turkey, having completely forgotten about Meth.

The thing is - as human beings we are attracted to certain things more than anything else. When you get really into a game and start thinking about the bonding experiences of difficult situations in raids or pvp - and how you couldn't have accomplished that without them, or would be dead were it not for another gamer - that to me is comparable to a blood brother borne in a foxhole in a war. The foxhole might be a dragon raid, and the blood brother might be a virtual priest avatar - but the bond can be identical I think. At the same time, the surreal worlds where we are all so much more than mere men working 9-5 is impossible to deny the simple attraction of. Any sense of hopelessnes, weakness, loss that you might experience in the real world is caused by a tangible entity in a game world - and is usually solved by severing the head of some dragon or god - would that it be so easy in real life - perhaps games would not hold the bond that they do.

Re:Pfft yourself! (2, Funny)

Custard Horse (1527495) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455592)

Dad? Where have you been? I've been worried.

24 games in the past 3 months? (5, Insightful)

CMontgomery (1238316) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454634)

There haven't been 24 games released in the past 3 months worth playing for 7 hours. Let alone 7 hours a day.

Re:24 games in the past 3 months? (1)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454650)

Apparently a ton of people disagree with you.

Re:24 games in the past 3 months? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32454682)

apparently you like using logical fallacies.

Re:24 games in the past 3 months? (1)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454738)

What logical fallacy? Pointing out that his personal opinion doesn't necessarily hold for the rest of the world?

Re:24 games in the past 3 months? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32454904)

you're arguing from popularity, perceived or real. Popularity proves nothing.

I agree with him. Most games these days are unimaginative borefests, full of monster-closets and 'adventure' that is almost as bad as those old laserdisc games. In the fighting/racing/fps genres, the skill quotient required to play seems to drop with each new iteration of a given series. This is the one thing that kept me coming back for more. It's too bad really. Just because a game has more buyers/players does not make it automatically 'better' for the genre it inhabits. The only winners in this era are the businessmen who probably don't even play games much.

Re:24 games in the past 3 months? (1)

fractoid (1076465) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455042)

You're arguing that there's some arbitrary, objective definition of 'quality' of a game, as distinct from how well liked, how playable and how fun games are? More specifically, you're arguing that there's some objective definition of 'quality' that coincides with your (and CMontgomery's) personal tastes in games.

I could get all logical but instead I'll merely say "you're wrong."

Re:24 games in the past 3 months? (2, Funny)

pcolaman (1208838) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455270)

Well played, but I counter with the unbeatable "Your mom"

Re:24 games in the past 3 months? (1)

fractoid (1076465) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455296)

Snap. You got me there.

Amusingly, at a party recently, we decided that the only way to top the traditional exchange was Chuck Norris:
A: blah blah
B: no you
A: your mum
B: your face
A: your mum's face
B: Chuck Norris
A: ...

Sadly that resulted in a round of "chuck norris's mum", "your mum with chuck norris", "your face with your mum" etc. :P

Re:24 games in the past 3 months? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32455278)

No, I'm not arguing that at all. I argued that the rationale for your opinion was flawed. There's no reason to state 'something is x because lots of people think so' unless that's your rationale. That statement WAS objective in nature.

It also sounded like you wanted clarification on my position, so I gave it. Two separate threads. Yes, it's subjective. Your reply to him was still badly reasoned.

'night

Re:24 games in the past 3 months? (5, Funny)

skine (1524819) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454722)

Apparently several tons of people disagree with you.

FTFY

Re:24 games in the past 3 months? (1)

spruce (454842) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455224)

Apparently several tons of people disagree with you.

FTFY

Both of them?

Re:24 games in the past 3 months? (1)

Laxori666 (748529) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454870)

Not necessarily. It could be that they play a few titles 30 hours a week, and go through 24 other titles quickly and get bored of them.

Who buys 8 games a month anyway? I wonder if they just asked how many new games they played and assumed they bought them.

Re:24 games in the past 3 months? (1)

Dahamma (304068) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455088)

No, if you read the summary these people make up less than 4% of the gaming population. Sounds more like a small minority than a "ton of people".

Unless you literally meant 2000 lbs of people, which in the case of those playing more than 47 hours a week doesn't add up to very many.

Re:24 games in the past 3 months? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32455320)

4% of the 174 million people. That is still some 7E6 people, just in the USA!

3 Letters (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454664)

WoW

Though I honestly don't know how this correlates with the finding that it's more consoles than PC gamers. But that could explain how they can play 24 games for about 600 hours (which means about 25 hours per game).

Re:24 games in the past 3 months? (2, Informative)

Stormwatch (703920) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455134)

There haven't been 24 games released in the past 3 months worth playing for 7 hours. Let alone 7 hours a day.

So what? There are countless old games still worth playing. Get yourself some emulators, a bunch of fullsets, and a decent USB controller -- you'll get years of gaming right there.

Re:24 games in the past 3 months? (1)

PyroMosh (287149) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455336)

While that's an opinion, and as others have pointed out, a highly subjective one, you're missing some points.

1) You don't have play all of them for 7 hours, let alone 7 hours a day. If you buy 24 games, it's entirely possible that half or more of them will be played for less than 7 hours, and you could just play the best ones a lot. I know several people that buy all kinds of hype, will get games on launch day, not like them, and trade them in a few days later. These games probably don't get more than a few hours play, but other games in their library do.

2) You're also assuming that the 24 games purchased in the last three months were recently released, new titles. I still purchase NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube, and classic PC games on a regular basis. I'm sure I'm not alone in seeing a game that I always wanted to play, but never got around to, and picking it up when I have the chance.

Sadly, I don't have the time to play that many hours a day to dedicate to games, so many of the games I buy wind up collecting dust. Some day, though...

$1000? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32454658)

I'm not a hardcore player, but I play League of Legends for about 3-4 hours a day every day. It cost me... nothing. The game is free. Don't waste your money on any games this year, just get on my level and LoL.

www.leagueoflegends.com

Re:$1000? (1)

mjwx (966435) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455360)

I'm not a hardcore player

Indeed, I have not played a game in 3 days.

They say the shakes only last 48 hours, I was done in 36. Now I feel cold.

I work with some of these people. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32454662)

Well, they may as well be extreme gamers as they certainly don't seem to do any work here in the office!
Oops, sorry - incompetence does nto consistute 'playing' - my apologies

48 hours? (5, Funny)

santax (1541065) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454670)

Pff sissies, I play that every day.

Re:48 hours? (2, Funny)

Velorium (1068080) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454912)

Love the informative rating on this.

Re:48 hours? (1)

dreamer.redeemer (1600257) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455234)

"New Study Declares 'Uber Ultra Extreme' Gamers Play 48 Hours a Day"

Re:48 hours? (1)

MadKeithV (102058) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455284)

They do. They play 2 games at once.

Re:48 hours? (2, Funny)

pcolaman (1208838) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455288)

Only Chuck Norris and Jack Bauer could play 48 hours a day. I hear that Jack Bauer plays 24 48 hours a day. Too bad it was a shitty game.

Re:48 hours? (1)

RivenAleem (1590553) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455476)

Jack Bauer makes 24 hours draw out into 1/2 a year

Re:48 hours? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32455312)

be more funny

I have few friends (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32454680)

I have a few friends that play games this much. On consoles. The thing is, however, that it doesnt make them good. Console players IME tend to have a lot less 'skill'; ie- twitch reflexes and battlefield awareness.

Moral of the story, play PC games if you want to have a challenge. Consoles are fun if you like games with stories.

Re:I have few friends (1, Offtopic)

snowboardin159 (1744212) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454702)

I totally forgo to log in for this post, can a mod edit it? Otherwise ^^ thats my post

Re:I have few friends (1)

mirix (1649853) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454778)

You must be new here.

Re:I have few friends (1)

Velorium (1068080) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454922)

His account number reflects this; as does yours.

Re:I have few friends (I bet that's true!) (2, Funny)

cblack (4342) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455050)

Whatever n00bs, this whole "I have few friends" thread is lame.

Re:I have few friends (I bet that's true!) (0, Redundant)

Velorium (1068080) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455100)

^Win.

Re:I have few friends (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32455196)

I just read the title and ignored everything in your post and let me say this.

0 isn't few, it's none.

Re:I have few friends (1)

Stormwatch (703920) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455206)

Moral of the story, play PC games if you want to have a challenge. Consoles are fun if you like games with stories.

Unless you count emulators, no. Consoles get more arcade ports, and the true challenge is there. Now, here's a test: go play Ikaruga, and don't say a thing about challenging games again until you one-credit it. ;-)

Re:I have few friends (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32455558)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_Cherry_Blossom [wikipedia.org]

Yeah, you really need to shut the fuck up now.

Re:I have few friends (1)

mjwx (966435) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455402)

Moral of the story, play PC games if you like games. Consoles if you dont.

TFTFY

Re:I have [a] few friends (2, Interesting)

ArundelCastle (1581543) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455602)

I have a few friends that play games this much. On consoles. The thing is, however, that it doesnt make them good. Console players IME tend to have a lot less 'skill'; ie- twitch reflexes and battlefield awareness.

I think that has little to do with who plays what and more to do with the environment they choose to play in. A PC gaming rig is much more likely, historically speaking, to have a higher fidelity in display, audio, and input devices.

I don't need a whole hand to count the number of console games that support multiple displays, and I'd wager more people use stereo instead of positional audio with their TV. A console is more likely to be played at a lower resolution on a bigger display, sitting back on a couch in a living room with the dog or other family distractions. Some console games I don't mind playing while lying down, which certainly isn't conducive to alertness, and I'm fine with falling asleep controller-in-hand. It's entertainment.

As a controller junkie I will choose developer sanctioned auto-aim assist rather than the grubby sandbox of PC aimbot mods. So game developers are the biggest influence in what skills are required by the player. I played flight sims in the days when, if you didn't own a Thrustmaster flight stick with its own dedicated controller card, you weren't serious. Then Freelancer [microsoft.com] came out and suddenly you could pilot with a mouse and frakking beat the game. That was unsettling. Flight sims haven't been the same since, because developers went mainstream and accessible. I think the RTS is still the only genre that truly benefits from a keyboard and mouse, because they haven't perfected radial menus yet, and even MMOs are getting menu accessible.

Moral of the story, play PC games if you want to have a challenge. Consoles are fun if you like games with stories.

Uhh.. Activision, PopCap and LucasArts would like to have a word with you...

I know it's silly to ask, but... (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454684)

...can they keep a job? And maybe even have a life outside the computer?

48 hours a week is about what I work (ok, it's usually a bit more, but not really much). And considering how I usually do NOT have another 8 hours per day left to play games (even I tend to sleep, eat and move about from time to time), where do you squeeze those 48 hours in when you try to keep a job?

A week has 168 hours (which is, coincidentally, also about as much time as you work per month on a full time job. Think about it...). Now, I tend to sleep 6-8 hours a night. Preferably more. If you do that, then say good bye either to your job, your life or your gaming habit.

So what do they give up for gaming? Life, job or sleep?

Re:I know it's silly to ask, but... (2, Informative)

HBoar (1642149) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454742)

8 hours work, 8 hours gaming, 6 hours sleep (many could live on much less) leaving two hours for other stuff -- plenty of time. Remember that you can eat while working and playing games.

Re:I know it's silly to ask, but... (2, Interesting)

jack2000 (1178961) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454750)

Sleep mostly, hardcore gamers can have a life, i know amazing. But yeah. Sleep usually gets the axe. After a while you learn and adapt. Not before long you move through life in a sort of haze between sleep and being awake. You learn to control your body's urges and can keep awake for as much as you want or fall asleep on the spot.

Re:I know it's silly to ask, but... (1)

pjtp (533932) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454860)

Yes, I try to get in the odd micronap during cut-scenes; however, I'm waiting for the day when I can shut-down parts of my brain while gaming, similar to whales and dolphins. I've already mastered this at work.

Re:I know it's silly to ask, but... (1)

Matrix14 (135171) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455128)

That sounds like my life when I watched all of BSG in a month...

Re:I know it's silly to ask, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32455550)

Considering one can watch 2 to 4 episodes an hour (depending on playback speed),
how did it take you that long to watch 'em - unless you just watched one season per weekend ?

Re:I know it's silly to ask, but... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32454756)

168 - 48 (work) = 120 - (8 hours * 7 days) (sleep) = 64 - 48 (gaming) = 16 hours for life

16 hours of life around slashdot crowds is something to brag about.

Re:I know it's silly to ask, but... (1)

snowboardin159 (1744212) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454762)

Many people who play that many hours a day work a part time job, and can survive doing that because they save all their money by not doing anything but playing video games. I really think the stat of $1000 in games isnt accurate. As many /.ers have noted, there are not that many good video games in the last 3 months to play anyways. +gamefly is pretty nifty way to go through many different games, if you can sit and beat a game every other day or so.

Re:I know it's silly to ask, but... (1)

andolyne (1342935) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454816)

It's likely the weekends you're forgetting.

When my wife is away on the weekend and i've got nothing else to do (read: friends are busy), I could easily do 10-15 hours a day. Then that just leaves 3-4 hours a night during the week.

Normally, though, it's not that much... and it takes an mmo for me to have that much interest in a game - most other games I'm "finished" in 20 hours and bored.

Re:I know it's silly to ask, but... (1)

rolfwind (528248) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454972)

Just figure the weekend 2x15 hours, and that means only 18 hours to disperse among the week 3.5 hours at the end of the day. It's doable although I wouldn't want to sit there and be the one doing it.

OTOH, I can see a lot more people doing the internet for more than 48 hours a week, and wasting job hours at it. It's a bit harder to play actual games on the job, unless you're a game programmer or something (not their own games, more like WoW or Starcraft or something).

Re:I know it's silly to ask, but... (1)

pcolaman (1208838) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455346)

Hah, I used to work a job doing tech support where I'd play my PSP while assisting customers with their net problems. Seriously, Disgaea helped me get through some of the more painful days.

Re:I know it's silly to ask, but... (1)

pcolaman (1208838) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455352)

I had a job where I worked at a call center doing tech support. Played PSP (especially turned based strategy games like FFT and Disgaea while on calls helping people fix their net problems. Was hilarious because not only did managers know about it, but as long as you did your job, they didn't even mind it.

Re:I know it's silly to ask, but... (2, Interesting)

Therilith (1306561) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454990)

What exactly do you mean by life?

A hobby?
Social interaction?

As sad as it might seem to some, not everybody needs to spend several hours/evenings every week with friends "down at the pub" or whatever the kids are calling it these days.

Re:I know it's silly to ask, but... (5, Interesting)

mjwx (966435) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455418)

...can they keep a job?

Yes, this is how I can afford to be a PC gamer. I work 9 hours a day, another 1.5 hours traveling, I play between 4 and 1 hours a night depending on what else I have on (guitar practice, gym, pub). On the Weekends I can play up to 14 hours a day between other things (meals, going out, shopping, etc...). I normally get 6-8 hours a day of sleep unless a new CIV has been released in the previous 2 months.

And maybe even have a life outside the computer?

Currently posting from Thailand, 6000 KMs from my gaming boxen and most of my games. I will spend this time drinking, eating, carousing and other stuff one does on holiday. I'll be here for another 3 weeks. My laptop is really just for banking and browing the web, it has an Intel IGM so it wont play any recent games (cant even handle CIV).

So what do they give up for gaming? Life, job or sleep?

Many people find a balance. Someone who spends 4 hours gaming per night is no different to those who spend 4 hours watching TV, playing cards or working on their car.

I dont watch TV so this may be where I'm getting all this time from.

Re:I know it's silly to ask, but... (1)

AHuxley (892839) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455600)

Its like tv time. 6 pm to 12 pm with dinner.
If work is local call it 5.30 to 12 pm with dinner and a few breaks? Get up a ~7 am, 1 hours play, at work by 9 am bright and happy with ~6-8h sleep

7 hours a day? (2, Informative)

Centurix (249778) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454710)

I didn't do that everyday, but I do recall one 10 hour session on Manic Miner in the 80's sometime...

Re:7 hours a day? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32454874)

It's because the submitter can't do maths. During weekdays, you can easily get in 4 hours, and in the weekends 14½ hours per day, yielding 49 hours per week > 48½ hours per week. This magically turns the "hardcore gamer" into nothing very spectacular.

Re:7 hours a day? (1)

Psaakyrn (838406) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455008)

Nothing spectacular, but still significant, since weekends can be used to do tons of other stuff..

Only 48 Hours? (1)

Forethought (1822710) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454734)

Only 48 hours? Why thats only 7ish hours a day. Thats barely enough to run heroic instances.

Re:Only 48 Hours? (5, Insightful)

ShakaUVM (157947) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454820)

>>Only 48 hours? Why thats only 7ish hours a day. Thats barely enough to run heroic instances.

Nice.

What's really sad is that the average American consumes 30 hours of TV and radio per week, but is considered perfectly normal. (http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20051227/news_lz1n27list.html)

Oh, and the same people rotting their brains out watching American Idol are the people who claim gamers are wasting their time playing the games. I can't recall how many times I've been told by couch potatoes that "there's no way they'd be able to spend that much time in front of a computer every day". WTF do they think their flat screen is?? Sigh.

Re:Only 48 Hours? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32454918)

WTF do they think their flat screen is??

A waste of a perfectly good computer monitor?

Re:Only 48 Hours? (1)

ShakaUVM (157947) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454938)

>>A waste of a perfectly good computer monitor?

Precisely!

Re:Only 48 Hours? (2, Interesting)

Velorium (1068080) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454932)

What I don't understand is the amount of shit I used to get for sitting in front of a computer/playing Xbox Live for hours on end when doing that is at least interactive. When you sit and watch TV, you just consume, you don't input anything at all. Personally, I hate most things on TV.

Re:Only 48 Hours? (1)

Killer Orca (1373645) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454998)

Well radios can always be on the background, people don't always have to be actively listening to it. TV though, I have time for maybe an hour and a half tops on a normal weekday. I can see how others would have more time for it, though there is a point where I can't sit through another show.

Re:Only 48 Hours? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32455106)

and what about all the time we spend at our stupid pointless jobs??

Re:Only 48 Hours? (1)

pcolaman (1208838) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455306)

Not only that, but I'd argue you get more mental benefit from playing a game versus watching TV. You may be improving hand-eye coordination, teamwork skills, problem solving, etc by playing a game. All you are improving by watching TV is your cholesterol score, but in the wrong direction. Anyone who wants to say that gaming will do that too, needs to play EA Active on the Wii.

Meh, TV, computer monitor, they are the SAME! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32455440)

I have a tv card in my computer, though I usually have one or another of my older consoles hooked up to that, so I guess I'm not actually watching tv, per se. Also have multiple computers in the house, and frequently run multiple accounts for a particular MMORPG I like, it makes gameplay more interesting as some aspects of it are only accessible if you have a team together instead of going solo. As a bonus, the extra system online helps to develop my ambidexterity more fully. (Hey, it COULD be useful, one of these days.)

So, yeah, 48 hrs gameplay per day.....definitely possible. Just not very pretty after a couple all-nighters, is all.

Are they employed? (2, Interesting)

pathological liar (659969) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454748)

The article doesn't look like it says, although I only skimmed. I spent several months unemployed last year and I'd easily hit 40 hours a week playing video games, frequently more. It was shameful, but that's the way it was. When you're living hand-to-mouth for months on end, utterly sapped of any energy or confidence to do anything meaningful, video games are a way to kill time.

If they hold down a job I don't know whether to be concerned or impressed. If they're "homemakers" then it's no big deal. If they're unemployed I'm disappointed you needed a survey to figure that out.

My friends... (1)

jaryd (1702090) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454752)

think I'm a HUGE gamer and I play maybe 1-2 hours a day if that..

Re:My friends... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32454822)

maybe it's cause you are fat and not cause of how much time u play

Not a big deal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32454824)

I play about this amount and still manage to get plenty done. As was said, sleep gets the axe. Have a g/f, job, and I'm a full time student at a university. Thing is, it's what gets most if not all of my free time. I don't watch TV, eat out, etc. Most people burn the same amount of time doing worthless shit, they just don't focus it all on one thing. [ie] videogames

weak. (1)

timmarhy (659436) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454832)

on my week off (yes bitches you heard right, i only have to work 1/2 the year) i probably do 12 hours in a couple of lazy afternoons. i thought that made me hardcore until i ran into a group that have rosters and do 12 hour shifts. and they aren't even gold farmers.

"Extreme Gamers"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32454862)

In some gaming circles, 48 hours/week would be defined as "casual". As a teenager, I (and others I know) spent >100 hours/week on games like Helbreath, Empires: Dawn of the Modern World, Lineage II, World of Warcraft, and Age of Empires II for months on end. Hell, there were occasions on which we played for 30 or more consecutive hours without sleep--and there were still people (esp. Koreans) that were significantly more extreme.

Re:"Extreme Gamers"? (1)

pcolaman (1208838) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455328)

Final Fantasy XI makes all those games you listed, with the possible exception of L2, look like casual pansy ass games. We'd easily throw down more than 24 hours in a row on that fucking game on a regular basis. Seriously, if you have a family and you play any MMO developed in Asia, you might as well get a divorce and submit your resignation at work, because you'll be fucking playing.

Re:"Extreme Gamers"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32455668)

I was actually like this when Star Wars Galaxies came out. That game had so much to do, so much to learn, so many ways to min/max everything, it became all-consuming.

I still hate Sony for how they ruined SWG with the various changes they made. In the same right, it freed me from it's chains, as well.

I am pushing and plowing end-game content in World of Warcraft now, but I don't feel the need to spend 8 to 10 hours a night to 'explore and do everything' anymore. The game is, in many respects, simpler. 2 to 3 hours of battle is enough for me, and I don't feel like I'm missing much, so I can log out. Add in that I flat-out refuse to watch commercial TV (nothing good on), other than catching the news from time to time (rarely, when I can tab-browse 5-10 local, national, and world news sites at the same time anyway, never mind RSS feed readers and the like).

Basically, computer time == TV time, for me. It's a lot more interactive, and keeps my brain sharper than rotting in front of the TV every night.

The report (2, Informative)

cappp (1822388) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454880)

The report seems to be buy-only, but I found the press-release which has a little more information. It's over on http://www.npd.com/press/releases/press_100527b.html [npd.com] if anyone cares to look.

What I found most interesting was the methodology section which reads:

In January 2010, The NPD Group fielded an online survey that was completed by 18,872 consumer panel members ages 2 and older. Responses for individuals ages 13 and older were captured directly, and responses for individuals ages 2-12 were captured by “surrogate reporting,” whereby a parent/guardian brings the child to the computer to answer questions, and the child then answers either with or without the guardian’s assistance. Final survey data was weighted and balanced to represent the U.S. population of individuals ages 2 and older.

I guess the most obvious way in which error could slip in is via the on-line nature of the survey - possibly their weighting forumla could use some tweaking too?

International Demographics? (2, Interesting)

EspressoFreak (237002) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454924)

If the study is only done in the US, then I don't think it do the name "Extreme Gamers" justice. Come to Asia, hell, go to Korea's "internet cafes", and you will find people who never leave the place. There are a lot more local mmorpg games here than there are in the States, and those are the type of games that suck your life away. And they are all PC games too, which will debunk the more console than pc claim.

48h a week? Feh. (1)

Raxxon (6291) | more than 4 years ago | (#32454966)

I play about 10 to 12 hours a day during the week, sometimes more on the weekends. "Hardcore gamers" my ass.

Granted I also work overnight so I have an advantage on playing. ;)

Re:48h a week? Feh. (1)

mvar (1386987) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455344)

When Diablo 2 came out i was in the range of 10hours/day, with minor breaks. Same for Baldur's gate or UFO Defense. Fortunately they have stopped making so addictive games :P

That's impressive for "Extreme Gamers," but. . . (1)

MagusSlurpy (592575) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455148)

. . . the real question is, how much do XTREEM GAMERZ play?

Wow, typing that just made me want to punch myself.

Re:That's impressive for "Extreme Gamers," but. . (1)

Lord_of_the_nerf (895604) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455182)

I'd be curious to see how many hours NOOBS play.

Re:That's impressive for "Extreme Gamers," but. . (1)

pcolaman (1208838) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455332)

More importantly, I'd be curious to see how many hours NOOBS use sucking at life in general.

Adjectives party (1)

wye43 (769759) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455462)

In other news in a study made by me on the spot, a new class of gamers so-called “Avid Gamers” plays 8 hours a day. And "Heavy Gamers" plays 6 hours a day. And while "Extreme Gamers" are 4% population, there is a "Super Heavy Extreme" class of gamers which make only 1% of the population and play 25 hours a day, which for some random reason would make even more newsworthy crap.

But maybe extreme is 3 hours a day. You can draw the line everywhere, why stick with 7 specifically? And why with capital letters "Extreme Gamers"? Is this a new consecrated word/expressions?

perhaps surprisingly -- one-third of them are fema (2, Funny)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455162)

perhaps surprisingly -- one-third of them pretend to be female online.

FTFY.

Re:perhaps surprisingly -- one-third of them are f (1)

pcolaman (1208838) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455340)

And half of those also happen to be pretending to not be FBI. Amazing!

Only? (1)

Dumnezeu (1673634) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455176)

But dedicated though they may be, the Extreme Gamers are just a small minority: a mere 4% of the US's 174-million-strong gaming public.

Only 7 million people on the US afford to spend over $300/month on console games?

Re:Only? (1)

Hinhule (811436) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455238)

This was my reaction too, that's like the population of denmark. A small country filled with nothing but gamers.

I can't believe... (1)

Byzandula (83077) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455248)

that I actually took time to read these comments in-between playing Counter Strike. I must be slipping.

Feh to your pitiful hardcore Definition (2, Interesting)

moniker127 (1290002) | more than 4 years ago | (#32455470)

Heres why i'm hardcore:



-The only time I stop playing my game is when not doing so would be to the permanent detriment to my gaming environment. This means times when Its absolutley necessary for me to go pay rent, to go get food, to go to sleep. Things that, if not taken care of, would stop me from playing.
-When i'm sleeping, i'm dreaming about my game. Often I post suggestions I dreamed up in the game's forums the next morning.
-I'm obsessed. When I physically cant play the game, I research the game, and do the math to figure out what would work better how.


All in all this means I play my game about 18 hours a day. Thats right, 18 goddamn hours. I sleep for the other 6.

I'm really, really starting to think that theres something wrong with me. But this is what I am- hardcore- theres no denying that. By the way, I play anarchy online, the heroin of mmos.

Former WoW addict (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32455514)

Back before I got my job, I was playing World of Warcraft, the biggest time-killer of them all. I was still at school but only finishing my thesis. I knew something is wrong when I saw 70 hours pop up in the "past 7 days" column on my Xfire gaming counter for WoW. So I cancelled my subscription.
I spent 10 hours/day on a game that wasn't even enjoyable for me anymore! That's crazy!

Re:Former WoW addict (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32455590)

Now you spend 8 hours/day at an even less enjoyable game, but get paid to do so ;)
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