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Apple Announces iPhone 4

Soulskill posted more than 4 years ago | from the saw-that-one-coming dept.

Iphone 1184

In a keynote presentation today at WWDC, Steve Jobs officially unveiled the iPhone 4. It's powered by an A4 chip, has a glass front and back, and has stainless steel around the edges, which turns out to be part of the antenna system. The new iPhone uses what Jobs called a "Retina display," running at 960x640, or 326 ppi. The battery is also bigger, with a corresponding increase in battery life. The iPhone 4 supports 802.11n, has two mics for noise cancellation, and a three-axis gyroscope, which allows rotation and precision that accelerometers can't match. The iPhone 4's camera is using a 5-megapixel backside illuminated sensor, which Jobs said does better at low-light photography. It also records 720p video at 30 frames per second, with tap-to-focus. In addition to this, they've created an iMovie app, which allows users to easily edit videos on their phone. Several live blogs of the event, with pictures, are available. The device ships in the US on June 24. Apple's product page has been updated with specs and a video. Read on for more details.
Update: 06/07 18:34 GMT by S : Steve's "One More Thing" this time around: FaceTime, live video chat from one iPhone 4 to another. It is Wi-Fi only at the moment, but they're working with carriers to expand that in the future.Jobs says the iPhone 4 OS is being renamed "iOS4," since it isn't just focused on phones anymore. The release candidate will be made available to developers today. He demonstrated multitasking, a unified email inbox, and folders for apps. In the App Store, you can expect to see an iPhone version of Netflix soon, as well as Guitar Hero and FarmVille. Jobs also announced that iBooks, the ebook application for the iPad, would be getting a few upgrades. Users will soon be able to make notes, and a bookmark button is on the way. It will put bookmarked pages into the book's table of contents. iBooks is also gaining support for viewing PDF files. On top of that, it won't be just for the iPad anymore; it's coming to the iPhone and iPod Touch as well, and it will sync between devices.

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iAds (1, Troll)

sopssa (1498795) | more than 4 years ago | (#32486826)

I find this one the most interesting feature.

iAds [blogcdn.com]

Re:iAds (4, Insightful)

Albanach (527650) | more than 4 years ago | (#32486906)

I find this one the most interesting feature.

iAds [blogcdn.com]

What would be interesting is Adblock Plus for the iPhone.

Re:iAds (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32486920)

But they have good brands, so it is not a problem

11:25AM "So let me tell you some of the brands that will be advertising with us. Nissan, Citi, Unilever, AT&T, Chanel, GE, Liberty Mutual, State Farm, Geico, Campbells, Sears, JC Penny, Target, Best Buy, Direct TV, TBS, and Disney... those are some of the brands."

Re:iAds (4, Funny)

WCMI92 (592436) | more than 4 years ago | (#32486940)

What would be interesting is Adblock Plus for the iPhone.

Heh! Odds of that being approved for the App Store are approximately 3,720 to 1.

Re:iAds (5, Insightful)

ircmaxell (1117387) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487008)

Wow, those are conservative odds as well. I would have put it somewhere around G [wikipedia.org] to 1...

Re:iAds (3, Insightful)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487026)

I'm glad to see the iPhone getting a serious upgrade in the hardware department, but the walled garden is still enough to keep me from ever owning one. Android is teh place to be, at least for me.

Re:iAds (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32487028)

Never tell me the odds!

Re:iAds (4, Funny)

gyrogeerloose (849181) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487218)

Never tell me the odds!

6 to 1 that someone will.

Re:iAds (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32487066)

Never tell me the odds.

Re:iAds (4, Insightful)

Graff (532189) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487058)

It's an optional thing for a developer to include in his app. I can imagine that there will be free apps that use iAdd and pay versions that don't have ads. Just use the version without ads and you are good. If there's no version without ads then don't use the app!

That's basically how it works now except Apple is providing developers with an easy and good-looking way to include ads in their app without having to cut deals on the side. Pretty much win-win for Apple, app developers and iOS users.

Re:iAds (4, Insightful)

Albanach (527650) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487192)

It's an optional thing for a developer to include in his app

Indeed adverts are. Adblock Plus is a browser plugin so that adds are an optional thing a user can choose to accept. I'm unclear as to what way graphics heavy adverts will be 'win-win for ... iOS users' given that as of today it is no longer possible to start an unlimited data contract.

Will a user be winning when an ad for an ap that would have cost $1.99 for the ad-free version sends them over their monthly cap and results in a $10 bill from AT&T?

All ads have done is resulted in a proliferation of free apps with limited functionality and lots of adverts. It's cluttered the marketplace and made it difficult to distinguish between applications and value. It's not immediately obvious how much paid or versions of similar apps cost, making price comparisons more difficult for the user. Where's the 'win' in that?

Apple have distinct carrier contracts. What would have been innovative would have been to negotiate with carriers, make bandwidth to Apple's Ad servers not count as part of a user's allowance and have the advertiser pick up the cost of serving their Ad.

Would you watch network television if you were billed for each ad you see?

Re:iAds (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32487030)

You don't need to wait long

11:29AM "I think a lot of people are going to try and win the car. It's a great idea! We're going to turn on iAd on July 1st for all iOS 4 devices."

Lame (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32486852)

No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.

Re:Lame (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32486964)

No wireless? It has at least three forms of wireless... Not sure what you're referring to.

Re:Lame (1)

WilyCoder (736280) | more than 4 years ago | (#32486988)

OP was referring to a really old slashdot joke.

No humor? Less relevance than a fruit fly? LAME!

Re:Lame (1)

vbraga (228124) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487052)

This is from the summary about the launching of the original iPod, if I recall correctly.

Re:Lame (5, Funny)

paiute (550198) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487112)

No teleportation. Less space than the Library of Congress. Lame.

No Verizon but.... T-Mobile? (2, Informative)

0100010001010011 (652467) | more than 4 years ago | (#32486860)

One of the nuggets they slipped in there was that it was a Quad Band phone. Previously it only worked on AT&T's 3G frequencies.

One can hope.

Re:No Verizon but.... T-Mobile? (4, Informative)

kwalker (1383) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487088)

"Quad Band" means it supports 850/900/1800/1900 MHz frequencies, and all of those are GSM (voice) frequencies, not 3G (HSDPA/USM) frequencies. Unless it says 1700/2100 MHz for data access, T-Mo won't work. It's probably 850/2100MHz USM/CDMA which is what AT&T uses.

(Says the guy who owns a factory Nokia phone which only gets EDGE because of the above issue).

Re:No Verizon but.... T-Mobile? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32487106)

Doubtful - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_frequency_bands#Multi-band_and_multi-mode_phones

Most likely for world-compatibility.

Re:No Verizon but.... T-Mobile? (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32487166)

It depends.

"Quad Band" can mean "it works on 4 GSM frequencies, but only 2 or 3 UTMS frequencies".

Most phones that say "Quad Band" unqualified will mean this. Sometimes, if whoever is listing the specs is generous, they will list 3G frequencies separately (or say something like "quad band 3G" -- I think the Nokia N8 will be such a device?)

Gizmodo (4, Funny)

yakatz (1176317) | more than 4 years ago | (#32486870)

Anything about this being the same as the Gizmodo prototype?

Re:Gizmodo (2, Funny)

mgpyone (1760110) | more than 4 years ago | (#32486914)

yes, I think so

Re:Gizmodo (2, Funny)

oodaloop (1229816) | more than 4 years ago | (#32486936)

It does have the same form factor, namely the flat back and squared off aluminum side, same as the iPad.

Competition is a good thing (3, Interesting)

eaddict (148006) | more than 4 years ago | (#32486874)

None of which would have happened had Android not shown up.

Re:Competition is a good thing (5, Funny)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 4 years ago | (#32486942)

None of which would have happened had Android not shown up.

You're right! It's good for Android that Apple is around. :D

Re:Competition is a good thing (2, Interesting)

vivek7006 (585218) | more than 4 years ago | (#32486946)

720p HD video recording is great. I wonder how this will affect Flip-HD pocket camcorders category.

Re:Competition is a good thing (5, Informative)

ircmaxell (1117387) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487080)

One thing that the past has taught us, is that resolution != quality. Sure, it can shoot 720, but without a decent lens or good sensor, most of those pixels will be just noise anyway. I'm not saying that it's bad, I'm just saying that just because it's 5mp and 720 doesn't mean that it'll give better quality than a 1mp and 320 x 240... It's one of those things that we'll have to wait for the reviews to see...

Re:Competition is a good thing (1)

Altus (1034) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487198)

Its not like the flip recorders are cinema quality either though. I would have a hard time justifying buying one instead of a phone that could do the same thing.

Not a replacement for a proper video camera mind you, but probably good enough for anything Ill need.

Re:Competition is a good thing (5, Informative)

Graff (532189) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487200)

without a decent lens or good sensor, most of those pixels will be just noise anyway.

Apparently that's pretty close to what Jobs said in the keynote. He said the new camera not only shoots 720 but it does this with a larger sensor so the sensor elements still capture a decent amount of photons and don't lose quality. He also said they use better lenses. We'll see exactly how it pans out but the shots of pictures taken with the 3G model vs the new 4G model show that there's been a huge jump in quality.

Re:Competition is a good thing (4, Insightful)

TheKidWho (705796) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487208)

The quality of the 720p video was actually extremely impressive.

Re:Competition is a good thing (3, Insightful)

AnonymousClown (1788472) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487048)

I disagree.

Apple would have done this anyway to drive sales. Every time Apple comes out with a new or upgraded product, they sell like hotcakes - people who have the "old" version pony up even more money to buy the new version. I think the folks who jumped from the iPhone to Android are a very small minority and the rest of the Android crowd are folks who wouldn't have bought Apple anyway.

Jobs is a marketing God!

Re:Competition is a good thing (2, Insightful)

catbutt (469582) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487072)

I agree that competition is good, but it isn't only Android. Lots of other competition, and if Android hadn't shown up, someone else would have filled that gap. Apple expected competition when they got into this business.

Re:Competition is a good thing (2, Insightful)

91degrees (207121) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487182)

Sure it would. Just slower. Apple still wants people to upgrade every so often, so they're effectively competing with their older products.

Re:Competition is a good thing (1)

Ed Avis (5917) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487188)

I wonder how long it will take to port Android to the iPhone mark 4? If it works well, I might even buy one.

Want one so bad but won't buy (4, Insightful)

Jason Quinn (1281884) | more than 4 years ago | (#32486876)

Never before have I wanted a product so much but will not buy do to Apple's draconian policies.

Re:Want one so bad but won't buy (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32486912)

do to Apple's draconian policies

What are you going to do to Apple's draconian policies?

Re:Want one so bad but won't buy (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32486970)

Don't. You know that euphoria you have when you're watching porn and then after you're done jacking off you feel guilty about it. This is the same thing only instead of a woman's skin, you're jacking off to steel, glass an silica. If you go over the top and buy it, you'll wont' just feel guilty, you'll feel like an idiot.

Re:Want one so bad but won't buy (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32487148)

Don't. You know that euphoria you have when you're watching porn and then after you're done jacking off you feel guilty about it.

You're doing it wrong

Re:Want one so bad but won't buy (1)

Em Emalb (452530) | more than 4 years ago | (#32486990)

I am waiting to find out what the upgrade policy is going to be.

I've had my regular 3G iPhone for a couple years now (company phone) and it's about time for an upgrade. Hoping it'll be at a drastically reduced price or free w/2 yr deal.

We'll see.

Re:Want one so bad but won't buy (1)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487094)

I'm guessing $199 w/ 2yr contract. That seems to be the going rate these days for the upper tier smartphones. They don't cut you any slack for how long you've had your current phone.

Re:Want one so bad but won't buy (4, Informative)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 4 years ago | (#32486996)

Just get an Android phone. From a hardware perspective, the newest Android phones like the Droid Incredible are pretty close to this (or even exceed it in a few areas still), and they don't have the draconian policies. My bet is that HTC will soon leapfrog Apple once again (afterall, this thing just barely bests the Incredible, which has been out for a month or two) pretty soon. My next upgrade isn't due until this December and I'm guessing there will be some REALLY nice stuff out by then (I know HTC will have jumped one iteration by then, but I'm crossing my fingers on them being two iterations forward by then).

Re:Want one so bad but won't buy (1)

s73v3r (963317) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487042)

Kinda. This has a much better screen, and a camera that's as good or better.

Who can I buy from (4, Funny)

IndustrialComplex (975015) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487070)

So Apple is out, as well as Sony.
I agree with your sentiment, I really do want some of these products, but I'm fed up with the companies that present them.

I'm in the market for several new products:

1. Smartphone
I want to ditch AT&T and would like something that is as flexible as my older generation jailbroken iPhone. (VNC, Strong developer base, etc)

2. eReader
Though eInk displays are pretty much all the same, anyone have any luck with an eReader that isn't Sony but lets you have flexibility with the device?

3. A non-rented media recorder
ie: Non-Tivo and non-TV company owned. Is MythTV really the only option right now?

4. Unicorns.
I mean, as long as I'm asking I might as well get it all out there.

iAds (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32486886)

Coming July 1st!

Re:iAds (2, Funny)

oodaloop (1229816) | more than 4 years ago | (#32486952)

Integrated Air Defense System?

Re:iAds (1)

Dalzhim (1588707) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487050)

It was a typo... It's supposed to be Aids.

Re:iAds (1)

El_Muerte_TDS (592157) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487078)

No, it's "inter-Active Denial System"

Re:iAds (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32487184)

iUser Account Draining System

\lol 2G cap

IOS (1)

suso (153703) | more than 4 years ago | (#32486888)

Apple, that acronym is already taken for an operating system.

I'm really hoping Cisco is going to sue you over that. But I won't hold my breath.

Re:IOS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32486928)

If they had any intention of trying to sue over something like that, Nintendo would've been in court already.

What abbreviation isn't taken nowadays? (4, Informative)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487020)

If they had any intention of trying to sue over something like that, Nintendo would've been in court already.

For those playing at home, IOS4 is a really old version of the Cisco router operating system [wikipedia.org] and a version of the Wii kernel used to load the initial contents of a Wii console's flash chip [wiibrew.org] . But then what abbreviation isn't taken nowadays?

Re:What abbreviation isn't taken nowadays? (1)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487076)

But then what abbreviation isn't taken nowadays?

B.N.C.S.

Actually wait... [imdb.com]

Re:IOS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32487034)

Don't know about that. I don't think anyone even knew the name of the Wii's firmware until the homebrew community started poking around; I've never once seen Nintendo use the term in any marketing campaign or anything like that. As such, there'd be no trademark infringement. Doesn't seem to be the same with Apple.

Re:IOS (4, Insightful)

Radish03 (248960) | more than 4 years ago | (#32486958)

Kind of like how Cisco owned the trademark for iPhone as well?

Re:IOS (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32486978)

I'm at Cisco right now, and from my cubicle I can hear people talking about it. They've already worked something out, apparently.

Re:IOS (1)

200_success (623160) | more than 4 years ago | (#32486994)

Ha! I predicted iOS [slashdot.org] half a year ago, when the iPad was first announced and Fujitsu was going to sue.

Re:IOS (1)

sherpajohn (113531) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487016)

Apple, that acronym is already taken for an operating system.

I'm really hoping Cisco is going to sue you over that. But I won't hold my breath.

Cisco also claims to hold the trademark to iPhone:

http://www.cisco.com/web/siteassets/legal/trademark.html [cisco.com]

Re:IOS (1)

osu-neko (2604) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487212)

Didn't they work out some sort of agreement for Apple using the name? I wonder if the same agreement (if there was one) would also cover using iOS?

Keynote not done yet! (2, Interesting)

twitchingbug (701187) | more than 4 years ago | (#32486890)

Wow. the keynote isn't even finished and the post went up. We have no idea about networks or prices or sizes. Ridiculous.

Re:Keynote not done yet! (3, Funny)

dancingmilk (1005461) | more than 4 years ago | (#32486976)

So wait, you mean its impossible to post an article and then have people post continuing updates in the thread? The mind reels.

10th post!!! (0, Flamebait)

Thaidog (235587) | more than 4 years ago | (#32486902)

Sent from my iPhone.

This kinda tells about power of your brand... (4, Insightful)

Pecisk (688001) | more than 4 years ago | (#32486944)

...when you can announce that your document viewer will support PDFs and everyone is in the awe :)

"WWDC" (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32486950)

What Will Dicks Create?

Revolutionary (4, Funny)

Beelzebud (1361137) | more than 4 years ago | (#32486954)

This is going to revolutionize the way we use iphones! Apple has done it again. All Hail Steve!

Sold! (1)

Capt.DrumkenBum (1173011) | more than 4 years ago | (#32486956)

What do you mean I have to wait until the 24th to buy!!!!!

Re:Sold! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32487216)

Relax, you'll have plenty of time to get tied to a crappy contract with AT&T.

One more thing... (1, Informative)

onefriedrice (1171917) | more than 4 years ago | (#32486962)

This story was posted before the "one more thing" was mentioned, and it's one of the more interesting features: mobile video conferencing!

Re:One more thing... (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32487012)

Oh sweet! Another innovation from Apple already available from others!

Re:One more thing... (2, Informative)

s73v3r (963317) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487086)

And used by who?

Re:One more thing... (4, Interesting)

Animaether (411575) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487224)

Well that's the thing, isn't it?

It's not necessarily that Apple truly innovates, or even that it simply does things better (i.e. the iPhone).

It's the fact that Apple is one of those brands that a lot of industries follow.

So once -Apple- starts doing videoconferencing, even just the two-way that's been shown in TV commercials since the day phones with two cameras (or just the 'front' camera) were launched, you'll suddenly see a lot of (renewed) interest in supporting it; including carriers.

Personally, I yawn at these announcements in terms of what they announce. But I applaud the announcements themselves, as it'll light some fire under companies' behinds to kick back into gear.

The one announcement bit that has the opposite effect, is the FarmVille-as-an-app. Not that I care for FarmVille, but one major problem FarmVille players supposedly had was the lack of Flash support on the iPhone (and iPod touch, and iPad) - Flash being what FarmVille needed to run. But Apple made it clear that they would definitely not be supporting Flash, and instead were 'promoting' HTML5.
So will there be an HTML5 FarmVille? Perhaps - but it's clear that at least as far as the announcement goes, it will be an iPhone/Pod Touch/Pad-only app instead.
I believe this is far more the future that Apple envisions, than that developers use HTML5.

But their platform, their store, their firstborns and FarmVille folks' freedom to decide to make it a native app and all that; such are things :)

Re:One more thing... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32487156)

They're looking to make it an open standard so we'll be able to see it implemented on other devices.

Re:One more thing... (1, Flamebait)

Khyber (864651) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487108)

It's not even useful video conferencing.

Camfrog still rules the entire video conference sector, on both price and performance.

100 webcams at once, fuck yes!

Apple - copy everyone else, claim it's revolutionary.

Re:One more thing... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32487114)

Yeah, but iPhone-only, and wifi-only. The camera on the front is nice, though. Did they list specs for that one?

Lord Jobs ships a new model (1)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 4 years ago | (#32486972)

Let a new round of religious wars commence!

Re:Lord Jobs ships a new model (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32487056)

Begun the phone wars have... again

Re:Lord Jobs ships a new model (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32487100)

*plays Imperial March*

Great features but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32486980)

With the costs of AT&T's data plan going up and getting limited, I wonder how video calls will work on the system. Are they just calls and consume minutes, or do they consume data for the video as well? If the latter, well that's just stupid. Thanks AT&T.

Re:Great features but... (1)

catbutt (469582) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487038)

It's WiFi only "for 2010"

Re:Great features but... (1)

tim_gladding (220795) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487062)

Looks to only be over wifi. AT&T's network couldn't handle the data.

Re:Great features but... (1)

s73v3r (963317) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487104)

Video calls are only on WiFi for now.

I WANT IT!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32487022)

I've been assimilated into the Apple collective since early last year! I bought the iPod touch, iPhone 3GS, iPad and Macbook Pro. Can't WAIT for this gyroscopic, high-quality camera iPhone!!!

Really? (0, Troll)

XPeter (1429763) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487054)

Only Apple would get away with releasing key features this late. HTC has been big for what, a year? Already their phones (EVO, Incredible) are surpassing the IPhone.

-Multitasking
-HD video recording
-Dual cameras/mics

Also, it's still missing a good carrier, tethering, and flash.

All of this made in a suicide ridden factory...

Re:Really? (2, Informative)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487158)

Also, it's still missing a good carrier, tethering, and flash.

Sigh. US mobile carriers all suck. Some more than others. Right now AT&T has its issues because of the iPhone. Tethering has been explained over and over that it exists in the iPhone currently. The limitation is that AT&T as a carrier has not allowed it. As for Mobile Flash, it sucks too. I'm waiting to see if the new Mobile Flash beta on Android resolves some of the major problems. While performance wise I think it is fine, it still is a major battery drain.

Re:Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32487160)

I'll take any of these things done well and late over being first.... Just my thoughts!

Re:Really? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32487206)

All of this made in a suicide ridden factory...

Idiot.

Re:Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32487210)

And yet no one cares, and buys iPhones by the million.
Here's a hint: if a feature is only actually needed by a tiny percent of the market, there's no need to rush to release it, even if your competitors have. If you disagree, you may want to try and argue with iPhone's sales numbers. Good luck!

The iPhone has lift it's walled garden! (3, Funny)

bjartur (1705192) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487064)

Now you can switch your default search provider to Bing!

Price is $199 16GB / $299 32GB (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32487110)

Price is $199 16GB / $299 32GB. AT&T will upgrade you at subsidized cost if your contract expires at any time in 2010, and the 2 year contract is added to your existing contract. Preorders begin June 15, and US sales begin June 24. International shipping begins rolling out in July, but some countries will have to wait 'til August or September.

AT&T NEW 2GB data plan will kill this. (2, Informative)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487124)

AT&T NEW 2GB data plan will kill this.

Re:AT&T NEW 2GB data plan will kill this. (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32487174)

So, do ads use up your data? That seems like a bad situations, but it's not clear how it could be avoided.

Reinvented Video Calling (1)

mcfedr (1081629) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487136)

Various 3G phones have supported video calling from the outset of the 3G network, phones from a variety of manufactures, on different networks, even in different countries. Why do they have to reinvent everything?

Re:Reinvented Video Calling (2, Interesting)

ninjacheeseburger (1330559) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487202)

I agree I have a Sony Ericsson k800i (in the uk) I think its about 4 years old now and it has 3G video calling. Never used it as its expensive and have never needed it.

Still no 64 GB version (4, Insightful)

proxima (165692) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487146)

The maximum storage capacity of the iphone maxes out at 32G, while the ipod touch goes up to 64G. I suppose that's comparable to the HTC's incredible maximum capacity of 40G (via 8 GB internal and 32 GB microsd card), but it's unfortunate that there isn't a larger option. The iphone really seems capable of replacing many mp3 players for reasonably sized collections, but with apps and music it's not hard to hit 32G.

And, of course, it would really kill Apple's profit margins to actually offer an SD slot...Oh well.

Gyroscope vs Accelerometer (1, Insightful)

HeckRuler (1369601) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487152)

a three-axis gyroscope, which allows rotation and precision that accelerometers can't match

Uh... So the thing obviously doesn't have an actual gyroscope, so I'm assuming he means rotational accelerometers... which is better then regular accelerometers how? They measure different things. Am I or the summary getting some lingo wrong?

Look at my history. (1)

Singularity42 (1658297) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487162)

It is insane that I am ignored in favor of "sharks with lasers". You are the problem.

The major leak of the the iPhone paid up for us. (1)

jbssm (961115) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487180)

Now, finally a Keynote from Steve about an existing product that finally delivers what people where asking for and some new great features. Front camera, better battery life, a flash (the one for photography not the software), HSDPA, better camera, noise cancelling mic .... all stuff that Apple could have put long ago. And some new cool stuff there people where hoping for but didn't believe much, like the big resolution bump of the screen.

Now, I get to wonder how many of the features where actually planed for this iteration of the iPhone, and how many Apple enginners where forced to put just because Steve didn't want to give only old Gizmodo news in his keynote?

I hope someone leaks the next iPad has well, a couple of months before the next major Apple presentation.

could care less about the iphone... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32487194)

but nothing on the 4th gen ipod touch? nothing at all?

personally, it's a much better device especially when taking a cell provider out of the equation.

Finally, some healthy DPI numbers (4, Interesting)

dara (119068) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487214)

I've been a proponent for 300+ DPI screens for quite a while. I never got to see the Neo Freerunner (282 DPI), but the Droid (265 DPI) looks good. Jobs is correct, from about about 10-12 inches viewing, this is what is needed to have the device seem like paper. My preference though is to take that high DPI to a bigger screen - say something like 1280x720 with 4.8" diagonal (308 DPI). New Snapdragons are supporting 1280x800 (not sure I like 16/10 better than 16/9 for phones - it is the standard for laptops these days), so hopefully we'll see some Android phones with these high DPI numbers soon.

Biggest Announcement (0, Troll)

agent_vee (1801664) | more than 4 years ago | (#32487220)

Sadly, the biggest announcement for most people was "Farmville on iPhone". Second place being "iPhone available in white!". Every other feature Apple announced has already been done by someone else.
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