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Renewable Energy To Power Aussie SKA

timothy posted more than 4 years ago | from the until-heat-death-of-the-universe dept.

Power 48

schliz writes "New solar and geothermal energy facilities are being built in Australia to provide sustainable energy for the region's Square Kilometer Array (SKA) bid. The Australian Government yesterday announced A$47.3m in funding for a full-scale, hybrid solar and diesel plant for the Australian SKA Pathfinder (ASKAP) at the Murchison Radio-astronomy Observatory, and geothermal energy facilities for the Pawsey High-Performance Computing Centre, where data from SKA radio telescopes would be processed. ASKAP is part of the Australasian bid to host the $2.5 billion Square Kilometre Array (SKA), which involves 20 countries and will investigate galaxy evolution, dark matter, and the existence of life. IBM expects the whole of the SKA to produce an exabyte of data per day."

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my cock to fill your mouth (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32545502)

choke on my splooge you faggot!

Re:my cock to fill your mouth (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32545912)

if a man who is a faggot sucks your dick then you too are a faggot, you silly nigger

Re:my cock to fill your mouth (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32546226)

Nothing gay about getting your dick sucked. You're the one that's gay for sucking my dick...

Re:my cock to fill your mouth (1)

Per Wigren (5315) | more than 4 years ago | (#32548102)

I'm sure you can't get it up get it up get it up anyway...

Hybrid (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32545538)

What mileage does it get?

The down side (4, Funny)

Barny (103770) | more than 4 years ago | (#32545588)

The unfortunate side effects:

1. A massive amount of hardware has been required to filter all the content from the SKA to the data-centre, just in case it has any "NC" information in it.

2. All pictures of "Uranus" will be blocked.

3. Attempting to focus in on a picture of a "Black Hole" will have the whole thing disabled for upto a year.

Re:The down side (0)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 4 years ago | (#32545652)

1-A. Any galaxy younger than two billion years or galaxies with a diamater less than ten-thousand light-years will be considered to be underage, requiring mandatory filtration, per Australian law.

Re:The down side (1)

interval1066 (668936) | more than 4 years ago | (#32545850)

And if your an American the only data you'll make out is the diatribe of an Aussie lesbian telling you how terrible your country is.

data throughput (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 4 years ago | (#32545620)

One exabyte per day? Holy shit, that's a -lot- of data!

Re:data throughput (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32546454)

We Aussies don't fuck around!

Re:data throughput (1)

DavidRawling (864446) | more than 4 years ago | (#32546780)

Yeah but the problem is that with our terrible overseas datacomms infrastructure, each day's data will take a week to transfer ...

ugh (1, Funny)

deathtopaulw (1032050) | more than 4 years ago | (#32545688)

Ska is a bad enough genre without getting the green movement and the australians in on it.

SKA? This is Madness! (4, Funny)

Zeussy (868062) | more than 4 years ago | (#32545752)

One Step Beyond!

Re:SKA? This is Madness! (2, Funny)

sea4ever (1628181) | more than 4 years ago | (#32545854)

No.
THIS. IS. AUSTRALIAAAAAAAAA!!!!

*kicks into the black hole that's about to be destroyed*

Re:SKA? This is Madness! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32547968)

Yes...

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Re:SKA? This is Madness! (1)

deusamatte (1605755) | more than 4 years ago | (#32548302)

Might have been more cost effective to just take one step closer instead of building a multi-billion dollar telescope.

Re:SKA? This is Madness! (2)

Jedi Alec (258881) | more than 4 years ago | (#32549372)

Our island!

In the middle of the sea!

Re:ugh (2, Funny)

imakemusic (1164993) | more than 4 years ago | (#32546010)

You'd prefer some kind of ska-fusion?

Re:ugh (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 4 years ago | (#32556024)

But man, that's some loud music if it gets its own power plant.

Did anyone else read that as... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32545844)

ASS CAP is part of the Australasian bid to host the $2.5 billion Square Kilometre Array (SKA)...

Or is it just me?

OMG what the heck is this slashdot? (1)

thegarbz (1787294) | more than 4 years ago | (#32546120)

Could it be? Could there really be something even remotely positive coming from the Australian government? I don't get it. In what way can they use the SKA to further rape the freedoms and liberties of the Australian public? What's their agenda? Why are they spending money on this when they could be out kicking babies for fun and profit?

Re:OMG what the heck is this slashdot? (1)

AHuxley (892839) | more than 4 years ago | (#32546498)

Makes up for the last space news of note from Australia, when the Howard government withdrew the funding for unidentified near earth object tracking.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/10/08/2385111.htm?section=australia [abc.net.au]

Re:OMG what the heck is this slashdot? (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#32546606)

Last space news? What about that Japanese asteroid probe which is set to touch down tonight?

Re:OMG what the heck is this slashdot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32546952)

I've spoken with the procuring engineer for a smaller precursor project, the Murchison array.

Politics are a bitch for the Murchison, a private investment between universities, but the amount of bureacracy to be dealt with even in the *leadup* to the SKA isn't a joke, it's just plain scary. Five levels of management before you get to anybody who's technical? That's the Aust govt for you - unless you're a resources company with sway (hello, donators!) the govt doesn't play ball until you wait a long time, pay extra and conceed on a couple of points.

Don't judge this country based on how well a consortium of companies are working to get endless money (because the SKA is asymptotic R&D and 'value-added' cost) from our overly bureaucratic and Orwellian government.

Get some perspective on this guys (1)

dbIII (701233) | more than 4 years ago | (#32546302)

Way, way out in the middle of the desert you can either truck in a pile of fuel forever, run a very long, very expensive and very lossy power line, or try to use a power source that is already there.
Solar will suck on the two or three cloudy days each year but otherwise has potential, it's about an obvious solution for solar as you can get because getting conventional power out there is likely to cost more.
As for geothermal, drilling deep holes is very expensive but there is some pretty hot rock down there and some of it is also wet with a lot of fractures - thus drill holes and get a lot of steam without having to bring any more water.

Re:Get some perspective on this guys (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#32546338)

Way, way out in the middle of the desert you can either truck in a pile of fuel forever, run a very long, very expensive and very lossy power line, or try to use a power source that is already there.
Solar will suck on the two or three cloudy days each year but otherwise has potential, it's about an obvious solution for solar as you can get because getting conventional power out there is likely to cost more.

Searching google [google.com] gave me 341000 results, starting with a few businesses which deliver solar power and some descriptions of projects, so I doubt this idea is novel.

Re:Get some perspective on this guys (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32547936)

Considering our company just built the solar-diesel with energy storage (flywheel) station in Marble Bar and are working on another, this is hardly a new idea..

Re:Get some perspective on this guys (1)

dbIII (701233) | more than 4 years ago | (#32548600)

It isn't novel, it's just not as stupid an idea as some posters here suggest and is not entirely for the sake of "being green."

AU is a good choice, great skies (2, Interesting)

linzeal (197905) | more than 4 years ago | (#32546398)

They put out a surprisingly high number of top-notch astronomers and astrophysicists for a country of their size. Must be something about the ability to drive 50 miles outside any town and have crystal-clear desert skies free of moisture and pollution. It is a real shame that the US has been on a decline for R&D for at least a decade for the "Big Science" projects. That is not to say the US is not producing some interesting research nowadays but it a large amount of that is increasingly being done under DARPA directives which in whole or part makes any paper or discovery subject to review by an intelligence agency for release to the public.

But no altitude (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#32546526)

In the Mallee, out around Hattah, I would go waking at night, using Venus to light my way and the Magellanic clouds would be easy to see. But if you want to do optical astronomy you need to do it at altitude and with clear skies. We don't have that.

Re:But no altitude (1)

linzeal (197905) | more than 4 years ago | (#32546750)

Yeah its not good for optical astronomy installations but for radio it is ideal.

Re:But no altitude (1)

tsm_sf (545316) | more than 4 years ago | (#32547426)

They went on for ever and they when I lived in Australia and the skies always had little fluffy clouds and they were long and clear and there were lots of stars, at night.
And when it rain it would all turn beautiful, the most beautiful skies as a matter of fact, the sunsets were purple and red and yellow and on fire and the clouds would catch the colors everywhere.
It's neat because I used to look at them all the time when i was little.

So yeah probably better for radio.

Re:But no altitude (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32548012)

Lyrics from the orb, for anyone under 30 years of age.

Re:AU is a good choice, great skies (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32546900)

They put out a surprisingly high number of top-notch astronomers and astrophysicists for a country of their size.

For a country of their size? They're a continent, you fuck-ass. AU is a lot larger than it appears on most flat maps. Try looking at it on a globe sometime before you come up with BS like this.

Re:AU is a good choice, great skies (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32546998)

They put out a surprisingly high number of top-notch astronomers and astrophysicists for a country of their size.

For a country of their size? They're a continent, you fuck-ass. AU is a lot larger than it appears on most flat maps. Try looking at it on a globe sometime before you come up with BS like this.

Or perhaps the "fuck-ass" is referring to our population size, which would be more logical.

Re:AU is a good choice, great skies (1)

linzeal (197905) | more than 4 years ago | (#32547356)

I'm talking about population you idiot. They have less people than Texas.

Re:AU is a good choice, great skies (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32549042)

They have less people than Texas.

They have fewer people, you idiot. Instead of saying they are a "small country" you could say they are a "less populous country," you fuck-ass, then you wouldn't be saying something patently false.

Re:AU is a good choice, great skies (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32549084)

Semantics on the internet and the idiots who get up way too early to argue them, lol. Thanks for the laugh, everyone else here knew what he meant.

Cool! (3, Funny)

mweather (1089505) | more than 4 years ago | (#32546446)

I love Aussie Ska! The Allniters are one of my favorite bands!

zpool (1)

Animal Farm Pig (1600047) | more than 4 years ago | (#32546630)

So, in ~700 years, they could fill a ZFS zpool [wikipedia.org] . Awesome!

They will probably need... (2, Funny)

Yaa 101 (664725) | more than 4 years ago | (#32546798)

They will probably need Skatalites for some exiting soundbites each day...

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Geothermal is green NOT renewable (2, Informative)

forand (530402) | more than 4 years ago | (#32549910)

Sorry to be pedantic about this but the complete miss-use of the term 'renewable energy source' is getting out of hand. Geothermal is most certainly NOT renewable. Current neutrino models and measurements, using just expected composition within the Earth indicate there is no source of energy within the Earth, there is latent energy. Geothermal is a green source of energy in that it does not pollute and doesn't have a large impact on the surrounding environment when tapped.

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Photographs of the first dish (1)

paul.bourke (1240472) | more than 4 years ago | (#32553732)

Recent (1 week old) photographs of the site, the first dish, and the array can be found here http://local.wasp.uwa.edu.au/data/Boolardy/ [uwa.edu.au] This includes movies showing the three rotational axes of the dish, some gigapixel panoramas, and ladyBug footage.

Ooooo Exabyte..... (1)

dogzdik (1700552) | more than 4 years ago | (#32554834)

That is a lot of hard drives per day, every day, day in and day out......

SKA for South Africa! (1)

Retiefdv (1331205) | more than 4 years ago | (#32562252)

Sorry, Australia, but South Africa will finally get the SKA! We already have captured the first images with our seven dish proof-of-concept installation.
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