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Chatroulette Working On Genital Recognition Algorithm

samzenpus posted more than 4 years ago | from the image-recognition-is-a-hairy-problem dept.

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Show them while you can, Internet exhibitionists. Chatroulette is working on image-recognition software that will filter out shots of male genitalia. The website's founder, Andrey Ternovskiy, hopes that blocking the offending members will help clean up Chatroulette's reputation. He's even enlisted the help of Napster founder Shawn Fanning. I wonder if someone has told Andrey how well it went for Napster?

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364 comments

but...but... (4, Funny)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 4 years ago | (#32579790)

What if I have a bisected penis, you insensitive clod?!?!? Or maybe just some really flashy jewelry...

Re:but...but... (4, Funny)

Jeng (926980) | more than 4 years ago | (#32579808)

But what if you look like Peter Griffin?

Re:but...but... (1)

Zerth (26112) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580052)

Lucky you!

It isn't my fault I've got a nose like a muppet [google.com] !

Going to be a disaster (1)

turkeyfish (950384) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580256)

for those poor marine invertebrate biologists with websites dealing with the biology of the Priapulida.

"View picture"? (1)

solevita (967690) | more than 4 years ago | (#32579800)

Oh, I wish this article had a "read more" link to get to the comments...

Re:"View picture"? (4, Insightful)

cayenne8 (626475) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580074)

As long as they don't use this to keep BREASTS from being shown!??!?

Female, that is.....

Suddenly... (2, Funny)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 4 years ago | (#32579806)

90% of ChatRoulette users get dropped.

Seriously (3, Insightful)

name_already_taken (540581) | more than 4 years ago | (#32579828)

I thought that was what Chatroulette was for.

Re:Seriously (3, Funny)

rwa2 (4391) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580486)

A friend of mine's description of Chatroulette:

"How many clicks to dick?"

Apple needs to step in and save the day. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32579896)

This is where Apple needs to recognize the demographics of their users, realize how important cocks and scrotums are to them, and then capitalize on this market.

Apple needs to license Chatroulette's technology, and create a site where it's nothing but penises. You know, if a penis isn't detected, filter the user out, rather than the other way around.

All of my Mac-using friends would absolutely love this sort of a video chat site.

Re:Suddenly... (2, Interesting)

TheLink (130905) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580504)

Actually you don't have to block or drop them. If the genital recognition algorithm works, you could just link those users to a video/chatbot that laughs at them. Of course it won't work so well if they drop their pants right in the middle of a session with a real human, but you could still automatically switch quickly to the "chatbot" after that.

But I thought people that go to chatroulette should be expecting crap like this and worse? I haven't bothered since I don't have a webcam, nor do I want to risk seeing some yucky stuff.

FWIW, I doubt seeing some genitals would bother me. As long as they're not mangled/bloody or gross in some other way. Maybe they should have something that recognizes Goatse and worse stuff, that'll be more useful (though a lot more challenging :) ).

You want to see my id? (1)

Alien Being (18488) | more than 4 years ago | (#32579816)

Excuse me while I whip this out.

Re:You want to see my id? (2, Funny)

somaTh (1154199) | more than 4 years ago | (#32579976)

I hope the filter is hard on people. They need to understand there are stiff rules.

Re:You want to see my id? (0)

negRo_slim (636783) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580028)

Excuse me while I whip this out.

Be careful the RIAA might come after you?

FTFS:

He's even enlisted the help of Napster founder Shawn Fanning. I wonder if someone has told Andrey how well it went for Napster?

lolwut?

If they really want to be popular (5, Insightful)

spleen_blender (949762) | more than 4 years ago | (#32579818)

They should make an algorithm that filters IN tits.

Re:If they really want to be popular (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32579908)

Or pussy.

Re:If they really want to be popular (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32579938)

They should make an algorithm that filters IN tits.

You've alredy got websites for that, check out cam4...

Re:If they really want to be popular (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32580314)

"check out cam4" Haha omg I love you.

Re:If they really want to be popular (3, Funny)

bertoelcon (1557907) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580006)

Well if they take out the penises all that will be left is tits, pussy, ass, faces, signs, and fake webcam drivers.

Priorities (4, Insightful)

Ltap (1572175) | more than 4 years ago | (#32579824)

Chatroulette is working on image-recognition software that will filter out shots of male genitalia.

I guess we know where their priorities lie...

Re:Priorities (1)

TitusC3v5 (608284) | more than 4 years ago | (#32579870)

Last time I checked, Chatroulette wasn't plagued by a horde of women flashing their genitalia on camera.

Re:Priorities (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32579962)

There's actually a pretty decent amount of it, albeit a small fraction of the amount of male genitalia. Strangely enough though, it has not drawn a proportionate number of complaints.

Re:Priorities (1)

Ltap (1572175) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580358)

I think that if they broadened their genital-blocking horizons, their userbase would dry up.

So... the only problem is the penis? (5, Insightful)

jfengel (409917) | more than 4 years ago | (#32579848)

The way I read this, it says, "ChatRoulette is a great idea. The only problem is that there's too much penis. Get rid of that and it'll be fine."

Uh, no. Trolls will troll. Showing your junk to the camera is the easiest and most obvious way, but even if you cut that out you'll just face the next thing down the pike. You're never going to out-grief the trolls.

They're going to need something a lot more sophisticated than that. Google's Safe Search uses word context clues. It's far from perfect, but it seems to do a reasonably good job. If ChatRoulette doesn't want to be overrun with trolls, they're going to need to think at least that creatively, which means gathering up a lot more information than "that looks like teh peener".

Re:So... the only problem is the penis? (1)

Issarlk (1429361) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580042)

AI or computer algorithms are not advanced enough to properlly detect trolls. What chatroulette needs is to filter them thank to the help of real persons. Before you can chat with someone, you would be required to chat with someone before ; to be sure you're not a troll. Problem resolved! No more trolls on chatroulette.

Re:So... the only problem is the penis? (3, Insightful)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580224)

Don't forget that trolls are also humans, and therefore also have a certain intelligence. If they know that their first chat is a troll test, they will not troll until they get to the real chat.

Re:GREAT IDEA! (4, Informative)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580124)

You're never going to out-grief the trolls.

Woah - hold up a second. Thats a great idea. No you see what they are trying is not to grief the trolls, but keep them out of the system. The idea of outgriefing a troll is an excellent idea, it should be taken to the next step.

Instead of disconnecting or dropping a user that shows his penis, instead flood his browser with tons of gay porn and goatse. Then, cause a whole bunch of message box popups that he can't get out of without killing the browser process.

And thats just an idea off the top of my head. I think if you put more thought into it, you could find some great ways to out-grief the trolls.

Re:GREAT IDEA! (1)

LandDolphin (1202876) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580342)

Actually - that's a great idea. Griefers will grief, it's what they do. But if your anti-griefer measures are t ogrief the griefer, they might actually get tired of being griefed themselves and stop griefing. i'd liek ot see this in a MMO. Where someone corpe camps a much lower character and GM's show up and corpe camp th griefer! haha.

Re:GREAT IDEA! (1)

xonar (1069832) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580390)

Don't block them, just limit the dudes whacking it to connecting with other guys whacking it lol.

Re:So... the only problem is the penis? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32580154)

Two words man: taint misbehavin'

Re:So... the only problem is the penis? (1)

nine-times (778537) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580182)

I guess it depends on the trolls. Is that guy who makes up songs on his piano a "troll"?

I don't use ChatRoulette, but the reputation is that there's too much penis. Get rid of that, and then see what it has a bad reputation for, and try to get rid of that.

Re:So... the only problem is the penis? (1)

EnsilZah (575600) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580288)

People are still going to die in car crashes so what's the point of using seat-belts and airbags?

Re:So... the only problem is the penis? (3, Funny)

albedoa (1529275) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580416)

That analogy would validate if, when faced with seat belts and airbags, the cause of car crashes evolved.

What? (5, Funny)

SnugglesTheBear (1822258) | more than 4 years ago | (#32579860)

I thought the whole point of chatroulette was a gamble between seeing an actual person or just a dude jacking off.

Do you want to play a game? (5, Funny)

TiggertheMad (556308) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580408)

I thought the whole point of chatroulette was a gamble between seeing an actual person or just a dude jacking off.

Like global thermonuclear war, "The only way to win is not to play".

a democratic solution (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32579864)

odds are the penis bandits are frequent offenders. let the community flag them for you. once an IP has been flagged enough times, ban them.

crowd source it, let the people decide.

gotta be easier than penis recognition software.

Re:a democratic solution (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32580202)

Except in a world of no IP addresses, very few people have static IPs. Banning IPs is not very helpful at the moment. Maybe with IPv6, it will be possible to simply ban the /64 and be done with it.

Re:a democratic solution (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32580474)

There are a LOT of penises out there. Search and destroy, I say! Permanent ban the cocks.

Really... (5, Insightful)

doctor_nation (924358) | more than 4 years ago | (#32579866)

I don't understand why they don't have a simple voting system. If a user does something bad or obscene, vote them down. Then match the poorly rated people with each other. Or just have an obscenity button and if a person triggers it multiple times they get kicked off.

Re:Really... (1)

sznupi (719324) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580000)

"Then match the poorly rated people with each other"

Oh how that should be the way in social networking... ("poorly" being relative of course; more of a folksonomy in the style of Last.fm that really matches like-people)

Re:Really... (1)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580022)

Ok, now seriously, what do you think the chances of trolls just voting down average people are? Pretty high.

In all honesty, isn't the entire point of ChatRoulette just to troll people?

Re:Really... (1)

RESPAWN (153636) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580216)

We see how well that system works for slashdot...

Re:Really... (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580430)

For trolls, it works reasonably well. Not perfect, but there's no perfect solution anyway.

Re:Really... (1)

Dorkmaster Flek (1013045) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580490)

But Slashdot also has meta-moderation whereby your own comment ratings themselves are also voted on, double blind of course. This helps ensure that people don't abuse their moderation privileges.

Re:Really... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32580442)

That could work but only if done like Slashdot were moderators have to prove themselves or they don't get to moderate. Otherwise the people themselves become the trolls (see: Digg)

But... but... (2, Interesting)

ElectricTurtle (1171201) | more than 4 years ago | (#32579868)

What about the people who want to look at boners? Won't somebody please think of the perverts?!

Though really this is an opportunity waiting to be snatched up. Chatroulette has demonstrated that there is a huge userbase just waiting to wave their willies on camera, so all somebody need do is create software that does something similar, and then make it known that 'this is the new place to flash people on teh intarwebs!' and BOOM instant userbase (= MONAY).

If I weren't so lazy I'd do it myself.

Re:But... but... (2, Insightful)

uncanny (954868) | more than 4 years ago | (#32579904)

it's called the rest of the internet

Re:But... but... (1)

ElectricTurtle (1171201) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580378)

I can't believe you were modded up for that. 'The rest of the internet' is diffuse and unstructured and makes the process of looking at and/or delivering live wangs a tedious process limited in scope by time and resources. By consolidating a service with a single purpose the process is streamlined and the scope expanded to include more desired content in one place.

Why do you think there are so many pr0n-oriented YouTube clones? The significant features excluded in the biggest services are going to be in demand as separate services. Just you wait, it will happen.

Re:But... but... (2, Insightful)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580478)

What about the people who want to look at boners? Won't somebody please think of the perverts?!

Anyone who wants to see male genitalia is a pervert? What about all those who want to see female genitalia?

Blatant Sexism (4, Funny)

damn_registrars (1103043) | more than 4 years ago | (#32579878)

Chatroulette is working on image-recognition software that will filter out shots of male genitalia.

So women can show their hoo-ha, but I can't show my ting-ting? Where's the ACLU on this one?

Re:Blatant Sexism (5, Funny)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580090)

So women can show their hoo-ha, but I can't show my ting-ting? Where's the ACLU on this one?

They moved on to the third grade.

Re:Blatant Sexism = supply and demand (1)

Peter Simpson (112887) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580236)

Nobody wants to see *your* naughty bits. Well, not as many as want to see *hers*. Not by a very long shot.

Re:Blatant Sexism (1)

glwtta (532858) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580438)

You're one of those idiots that complain about Ladies Nights being sexist, aren't you?

Whatever. (4, Insightful)

garcia (6573) | more than 4 years ago | (#32579884)

Chatroulette has long featured the rawest side of humanity -- copulating couples, men taking their pants off, and so on. But it also allows for a potentially rewarding (and potentially lucrative) random human connection, and that's what interests investors.

While for me Chatroulette was nothing more than a one-time novelty and an interesting experiment by Ben Folds, I understand it may have a larger value to others. Unfortunately this sounds like Chatroulette is suddenly going to suck the same dicks they are eliminating because someone wants to make a buck.

Let it continue on in the way it has or let it die. Let's stop bastardizing stuff because a bunch of investors don't like others seeing the raging members sticking out from their foreheads.

Re:Whatever. (1)

LS (57954) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580188)

Ok. So why don't you set up your own version and cover the hosting fees? Oh wait....

Re:Whatever. (1)

garcia (6573) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580412)

Ok. So why don't you set up your own version and cover the hosting fees? Oh wait....

Oh wait...yeah, I don't see any value in it so I'm not going to do it. But for the things I do find value in, namely covering local political news and data, I do pay the self-hosting fees associated with it.

But you don't care about that because it doesn't fit with your troll. At least if you're going to make a dig on someone using a long running Slashdot meme, you might as well do it with a clue.

Really bad "view more" link (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 4 years ago | (#32579888)

The link to expand out this story says "View Picture". Needless to say, Do Not Want when main topic is male genitalia.

escalation (4, Insightful)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 4 years ago | (#32579898)

This will just result in games where people try to post non-genital pics that get filtered and genital pics that don't.

Re:escalation (2, Informative)

TubeSteak (669689) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580084)

Maybe they can hire Goatse Security to consult.
/snicker

Re:escalation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32580218)

I agree. Grapes? [squidoo.com]

How about a face recognision algorithm instead? (5, Insightful)

91degrees (207121) | more than 4 years ago | (#32579900)

Faces are a much better understood problem. And since all most of the users want is to see people face to face refusing to show the image (or at least providing a warning) if no face is present would be a much easier solution.

Re:How about a face recognision algorithm instead? (5, Funny)

Issarlk (1429361) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580088)

Awesome! That would lead to an hilarious wave of penises wearing Groucho glasses.

Re:How about a face recognision algorithm instead? (1)

sznupi (719324) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580114)

I would expect also "reverse BJs" through printed pictures of faces.

Here's a $100 solution for a $0.50 problem (1)

abbynormal brain (1637419) | more than 4 years ago | (#32579928)

Why not just replace actual photo's with customizable character avatars?
Or rename the site "My Junk Is Better Than Yours"

Re:Here's a $100 solution for a $0.50 problem (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32579990)

I don't think you know what Chatroulette is for. It's not chat + buddy icons that are ending up with penises, it's random video chat where penises are often featured.

Re:Here's a $100 solution for a $0.50 problem (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32580326)

That's kinda hard for a video based chat system...

My Own Special Effort (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32579936)

I created an image using a traffic barrel monster with the words "No Masturbate". It got a lot of laughs, even from a few of the guys masturbating (you could tell it interrupted their concentration).

Re:My Own Special Effort (2, Funny)

Rude Turnip (49495) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580262)

I put up a sign advertising my web site and let it run all day. With so many naked people, I figured there must be a market for clothing.

This is fine, but (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32579948)

will it filter out dickheads?

Won't be long before they can match them up (1)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 4 years ago | (#32579954)

and we can an offenders database or such, tracking down pervs and all sorts of fun can be had. I figure if they can filter it they can go further and you know that some government agency or misnamed trust will snap the idea of this and run with it.

Never browse chrome kitchen appliances on ebay.... sometimes you don't want to know what the reflection is

Ashton to the Rescue (1)

swanzilla (1458281) | more than 4 years ago | (#32579964)

FTA:

Only recently has it become easier to cut off offensive users; a New Yorker profile last month noted that Ternovskiy made some changes after Ashton Kutcher berated him about what his stepdaughter had seen on the site.

I'm not sure who was actually Punk'd here...Demi's daughter or Ternovskiy.

I'm glad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32580004)

that they're working on filtering out male genitalia, while of course leaving the boobies in...

Results of an interrupted conversation (1)

DigitalReverend (901909) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580036)

Hey, I am looking for a tool...

Recognition? (1)

AscianBound (1359727) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580098)

...and you thought fingerprinting was an invasion of privacy...

Re:Recognition? (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580340)

It will be the ultimate security measure. While it's easy to get someone's fingerprint of an image of his face, most people know how to keep their penis secret.

Do Not Let the Roombas get this. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32580118)

Anyone worried what will happen when robots get this tech. Its bad enough they can shoot people in the face. Now they will be able to shoot people in the junk.

Re:Do Not Let the Roombas get this. (1)

VillageDolt (1223292) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580150)

Like to "hang out" around armed robots much?

This sounds like the worst job ever... (5, Funny)

hajihill (755023) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580160)

I'm going out on a bit of a limb here, so bear with me if you wood...

But seriously, figuring out an algorithm to ID wangs; sounds like those developers are going to be eyebrow deep in junk for a while. That's a job, much like plumbing, that I can appreciate for the value of the product, but can't fathom the drive to devote oneself to.

Re:This sounds like the worst job ever... (1)

DigitalSorceress (156609) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580338)

THIS a thousand times THIS!

This is possibly the only way anyone could ever convince Mike Rowe that software engineering could be a dirty job. I suspect it will have much the same effect as durian fruit has on Andrew Zimern.

All I have to say is "DO NOT WANT!"

Re:This sounds like the worst job ever... (2, Insightful)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580460)

Pity you've never met any software developers that weren't straight males...

(russian)Chatroulette (1)

bragr (1612015) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580164)

I thought the point of the name Chatroulette was to be a play on russian-roulette. How can it be russian-roulette if nothing bad ever happens?

What (5, Funny)

jsegal205 (1468223) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580170)

about all those times I am sitting on ChatRoulette eating hotdogs?

Figures... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32580200)

I just finished my algorithim to "enhace" my genitalia...

Members' members... (3, Funny)

stakovahflow (1660677) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580208)

It looks like the line that reads:
"...hopes that blocking the offending members will help clean up Chatroulette's reputation."
should read:
"...hopes that blocking the offending members' members will help clean up Chatroulette's reputation."

Just my $0.02...

--Stak

Misread (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32580220)

You know. Sadly I read that as "hopes that blocking the offending members' members will help clean up Chatroulette's reputation."

Damn... (1)

jridley (9305) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580246)

There's a development project I definitely don't want to be in on. Testing that code would leave scars.

I never thought I'd say "thanks for the... (5, Funny)

arc86 (1815912) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580266)

...cockblock"

Whomo (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32580278)

irc.secsup.0rg or They started to previously thought give BSD credit United States Of Have somebody just are about 7000/5 a sad world. At obtain a copy of

too late. look at yangsky.com porn detector (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32580280)

PornSeer Pro [yangsky.com]

Could do the same thing.

The Porky's Solution (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32580294)

I think I have a way out of this.

We call the police, and we have 'em send over one of their sketch artists.
And Miss Balbricker can give a description.
We can put up "Wanted" posters all over school.
"Have you seen this prick?" "Report immediately to Beulah Balbricker".
"Do not attempt to apprehend this prick as it is armed and dangerous".
"It was last seen hanging out in the girls' locker room at Angel Beach High School".

OMG, samzenpus! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32580306)

Are you new to computer science? It's called "genetic" algorithm not "genital".

False Positives? (3, Funny)

mojo17 (607881) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580324)

It'll be interesting when they start getting false positives: "Sorry dude, but you actually DO look like a dick."

Hope this works (2, Interesting)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580328)

When I first heard about Chatroulette, I thought "what a cool idea?" Then, when I heard about how many sickos are wanking and flashing wiener, that killed it for me. I don't think this algorithm will work, but if they can figure something out before they get branded as that "cock flashing website" they'll probably bring in more prudish people like me.

What? (4, Funny)

guspasho (941623) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580356)

"I wonder if someone has told Andrey how well it went for Napster?"

I didn't realize that Napster's failure was due to its single-minded focus on creating a genital recognition system.

Quality Assurance (2, Funny)

kiehlster (844523) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580362)

I'd hate to be on the QA team that gets to test that "feature"... Charlie, can you please stop pulling out your thing and just use a dildo like the rest of us?

Imagine being those developers (1)

ndogg (158021) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580388)

Programmer 1: So, yeah, we need more pictures to feed to our AI.
Programmer 2: They're on this jump drive. Should I plug it into the front USB port, or the rear?
P1 firmly grabs the drive, and plugs it into the closest port he could find
P1: Wow, that's...quite a load.

Heard they'll be using... (1)

kaizendojo (956951) | more than 4 years ago | (#32580424)

an old WANG algorhythm...

Show me your genitals (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32580456)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqXi8WmQ_WM

Posting anonymously for obvious reasons... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32580506)

...But jerking off on Chatroulette is actually really fun. It might take a hundred "nexts" to find the one room full of sexy college girls who want to see you jerk off ... but when you do, it's really hot. I can only imagine how satisfying it would be to be a gay guy and to be able to find an anonymous wanking parter in about 3 or 4 clicks.

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  • blockquote
  • div
  • quote
  • ecode

"ecode" can be used for code snippets, for example:

<ecode>    while(1) { do_something(); } </ecode>
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