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David X. Cohen Talks About Futurama's New Season

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the bachelor-chow dept.

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joelkeller writes "I spoke to David X. Cohen, executive producer of Futurama, about the upcoming season, which premieres on June 24 on Comedy Central. He talks about the season finale (!) and how the show is always on the precipice of cancellation."

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Good News Everyone! (3, Informative)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 3 years ago | (#32671804)

Don't forget to set your DVR's for the new episodes starting tomorrow...

Re:Good News Everyone! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32671882)

First two were funny, can't wait for more! :) Pre-release ftw!

Re:Good News Everyone! (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32671986)

First two were funny, can't wait for more! :) Pre-release ftw!

Yes, because everyone pirating a show like this will surely ensure it will get an another season.

If there is one time you should watch it legitly, do it now. Even from Comedy Central's website so they get the advertising revenue. Otherwise Comedy Central wont be doing another season (and no, DVD sales don't help much - if they just get DVD sales revenue, it's back to Futurama Straight to Video movies again)

Re:Good News Everyone! (3, Interesting)

Mr. Picklesworth (931427) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672126)

I would LOVE to watch it on TV, but it doesn't look like Comedy Central is airing the episodes in Canada.

So, I will pirate it (because that's all I can do), look at some ads, and tell the market research people I watched it.

Re:Good News Everyone! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32672214)

Where, exactly would you pirate it from? The Piratebay seems out of touch. Or is it too early? (I'll buy the DVD later, ok?)

Re:Good News Everyone! (1)

0100010001010011 (652467) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672528)

My RSS feeds from That of which we do not talk grabbed it automatically. When I heard it was coming back I added it to the list of TV shows to get and I just got an message from XBMC that it was done.

Re:Good News Everyone! (1)

inamorty (1227366) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672810)

ninja video

Re:Good News Everyone! (5, Interesting)

Jenming (37265) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672202)

The only way they can tell if you watch it is if you are selected for a Nelson survey. If you are part of one be sure to put down you watched Futurama in every time slot available.

I guess there is some damage you do to overall commercial value by pirating, but you would do the same damage by watching TV and not changing your purchasing habits.

Re:Good News Everyone! (1)

migla (1099771) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672348)

Beautiful. Now I wish I hadn't all ready commented, so I could mod you up.

Re:Good News Everyone! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32672748)

Those Nielsen scumbags once asked me to participate in their ratings program. I don't know how they got my name and address, but I was pretty fucking pissed about that so I told them to fuck off.

If you get selected for a survey and value your rights, I suggest you do the same.

Dumb TV (2, Interesting)

Strange Ranger (454494) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672850)

"The only way they can tell if you watch it is if you are selected for a Nelson survey. And that's why"

That I think, is the root cause of why TV is generally so terrible.
Busy interesting people don't have time for Nielsen surveys. People good at math realize that the time and effort spent will yield about the same results as voting. People who love really good mysteries (or insert your favorite type of show) likely have nothing to watch and comment on during the time of the survey. Really, imagine all the people who actually take part in the Nielsen ratings getting together for a BBQ.
Would you attend?

Re:Dumb TV (3, Insightful)

rolfwind (528248) | more than 4 years ago | (#32673016)

Yeah, I really don't get this. With the relative sophistication of fios set-top boxes, you'd think they'd gather every channel change, data link is taken care of, and Verizon would be frothing at the mouth to sell some of this data, no?

Not sure why the world is still relying on Nielsen ratings in this day and age.

Re:Good News Everyone! (2, Informative)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672878)

The famed "ratings diaries" no longer exist. If you're handed one, it's fake. They now simply just monitor the TV for what channel it's tuned to, and use Kinect-like cameras to determine who's in the room.

Re:Good News Everyone! (5, Funny)

StikyPad (445176) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672900)

A Nelson survey?

HA-HA!

Re:Good News Everyone! (1)

dpolak (711584) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672922)

Doesn't Tivo contribute to the ratings?? I know I have my Tivo set to record, and I hope it does count. Futurama is a fantastically funny, smart, and witty show.

CAN'T WAIT!!!!

Re:Good News Everyone! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32672394)

yeah, because you can't do both. hell, i'm d/ling the 2 as we speak, and still have my dvr set for all new episodes. what is the difference if my tv is on or off at the time? the cable box is still watching the channel. further, i believe if i leave the box on a certain channel, all the ads that were watched by my cable box should allow for the downloading of programming of said channel.

Re:Good News Everyone! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32672812)

That's a bizarre sense of morality you have there.

Re:Good News Everyone! (0, Troll)

citizenr (871508) | more than 3 years ago | (#32671938)

already seen first two yesterday ...

Re:Good News Everyone! (1)

stonedcat (80201) | more than 3 years ago | (#32671954)

I suspect this was an intentional leak to generate publicity for the new season.

Re:Good News Everyone! (3, Interesting)

danomac (1032160) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672006)

Dammit, anyone know if it's airing in Canada? It doesn't look like it (at least on the Comedy Network or on the Global TV here.) :(

Re:Good News Everyone! (1)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672346)

It's a 20th Century Fox production now for Viacom's Comedy Central... so international rights belong to Fox, which most likely means this would go to Global when they get around to it.

Re:Good News Everyone! (5, Funny)

Nugoo (1794744) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672476)

Last I checked, Canada has Internet connections, so, yes, it is.

Re:Good News Everyone! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32672070)

What is this DVR technology you speak of? Some sort of old outdated method of watching shows? OK grandpa.

Re:Good News Everyone! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32672224)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1agmxyr0 [megaupload.com]
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=qdg2znud [megaupload.com]

I watched both episodes yesterday on my computer. First episode would've been better as a 15 minute vignette rather than a full 30 minute episode.
Basically Leela builds a Fry-bot after Fry dies. Leela ends up getting killed. The Fry-bot believes he's the real Fry and mourns Leela's demise by building a Leela-bot. Towards the end of the episode the real Fry and Leela come back, confusion reigns, there's a Terminator reference when they change their voices to thick Austrian accents after tearing off their pseudodermis and everyone lives happily ever after. Best part was Professor Farnsworth's Deep Thinking Chamber with the disco ball.

Episode two is a take on Star Trek: The Motion Picture. It travels through the universe censoring unseemly planets like Poopiter, Planet XXX and #%$/@!. Zapp and Leela fly out to blow it up Skywalker style, ship crash lands back on a deserted island which Zapp says is a distant alien world so he can get into Leela's pants. Fanservice ahoy. The Planet Express crew try to save the world by telling everyone to repent and not look at nudity and porn. They go to the last unspoiled place on Earth, find Zapp and Leela, the robot satellite shows up and tells Zapp and Leela to have sex to show their purity and she takes one for the team (off camera).

Thanks to my pirate buddies.

Re:Good News Everyone! (1)

0100010001010011 (652467) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672424)

SPOILER ALERT. MOD PARENT DOWN.

Filter error: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING.

Re:Good News Everyone! (3, Informative)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672338)

Tomorrow? The second episode [eztv.it] is already out. Watched it yesterday.

So what? (2, Insightful)

bi$hop (878253) | more than 3 years ago | (#32671856)

Personally, I think it's always on the precipice of cancellation because it's never been as good as The Simpsons (although The Simpsons has been less and less entertaining over the last few years).

Re:So what? (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32671878)

The last time the Simpsons was funny was in.. oh 1999?

Re:So what? (-1, Troll)

bi$hop (878253) | more than 3 years ago | (#32671940)

And the last time Futurama was funny was...oh never?

Re:So what? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32671976)

Big mistake bi$hop [slashdot.org] ... you're going to get mod bombed.

Re:So what? (-1, Troll)

bi$hop (878253) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672328)

So be it. I post my opinion without giving a shit what the rest of this community thinks. Just like you don't have to care that I think Futurama isn't great.

Re:So what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32671988)

So what you're saying is that you've never actually watched Futurama.

Re:So what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32672062)

The last time you could appreciate something for the humor is actually held as opposed to the humor it wanted you to laugh at was.....

Re:So what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32672962)

More recently than the last time you made sense... or love.

POW!

Re:So what? (3, Interesting)

cthubik (1588847) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672150)

I completely agree, the Simpsons hasn't been funny or clever for many years and should have been canceled many, many seasons ago. The writing was once above average, now it is just pathetic to watch to anyone who isn't a simpleton (average sitcom writing). Futurama, however, is actually really funny.

Re:So what? (1)

Jenming (37265) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672232)

The Simpson continues to be funny. It does not, however, really change. Luckily for them there keep being new people and so this isn't too much of an issue.

Re:So what? (4, Insightful)

Kjella (173770) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672014)

The Simpsons has a broad appeal to the typical soccer mom family. Futurama is a nerdy show which was a Leela/Fry romance about as awkward as The Big Bang Theory with a lobster from outer space. Futurama has to hit home runs with their target demographic because it's small, the Simpsons haven't done that in years. They keep being sufficiently successful because they don't age, every year there's a new year's worth of children identifying themselves with Bart and Lisa. Live actors won't be the same, for example right now we have the Harry Potter generation, people that grew up alongside the actors but the next generation will find someting else. They might still watch the Simpsons though.

Re:So what? (5, Insightful)

Joe Tie. (567096) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672174)

a Leela/Fry romance about as awkward as The Big Bang Theory

I'd say the exact opposite there. The big bang theory has romances that are awkward because they don't fit. There's no reason for the people dating in that show to be dating. There's no chemistry, and the writers just never seem to know what to do with them together. Fry/Leela are great because the characters are well written. Each has issues of abandonment and isolation within the greater society at large which act as a common bond.

Re:So what? (3, Funny)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672578)

So the problem remains that the general public doesn't get it. The general public won't get anything with more depth than the Simpsons, unfortunately.

Re:So what? (4, Funny)

sorak (246725) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672800)

Right, she's a one-eyed mutant with an ancient alien for a pet, and he's his own time traveling grandson. You'd think they'd have more to talk about.

Re:So what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32672990)

the writers just never seem to know what to do with them together

Nobody knows what to do. That's why people either break up or get married. Anything else is boring.

Actually it's all pretty boring, but there's that biological imperative thing.

Re:So what? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32672026)

I've always thought of Futurama as the thinking man's Simpsons.

Re:So what? (2, Interesting)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672168)

Personally, I love both series. (Well, I loved the Simpsons from like season 5 or so to season 15, it wasn't very good outside that range. But Futurama definitely takes a much keener intellect to really appreciate. There's a lot of references that require considerable education at times to really appreciate. And even with that it often takes several viewings to really notice most of what's going on.

Re:So what? (1)

Larryish (1215510) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672818)

We really appreciate your post.

Re:So what? (1)

TheRealMindChild (743925) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672858)

Yeah, so you forgot your closing ). I. Hate. You.

Re:So what? (4, Funny)

hedwards (940851) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672902)

That's no fair you changed the number by counting them.

Re:So what? (0)

migla (1099771) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672080)

So, I tried to mod you down overrated, but I'll cancel that and tell you instead:

The Simpsons is mass produced (albeit pretty good, none the less) funny pop thing for the masses. Futurama is not-as-mass-produced-but-(hence-greater) pop thing for a little bit more ... intelligent/geeky/exclusive/elitist audience.

I like both, but I also think especially the Simpsons don't really say that much, they cover their bases, so to speak. Come to think of it, the simpsons is a bit like wikipedia, while futurama is a bit less like wikipedia. The simpsons is a bit more mainstream and NPOV, while futurama is a bit less of that.

Anyway, on the whole, both are on the disruptive side of (american) culture, aren't they? Or are they "gatekeepers" that define how critical is ok?

Re:So what? (4, Funny)

Jenming (37265) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672264)

I was going to mod you down, but instead I wasted your time by making you read this and the original poor post.

Re:So what? (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672596)

I was going to mod you down, but had already posted.

Re:So what? (1)

oldhack (1037484) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672238)

It's bit too in-joke-y, but that's why we love'em.

Maybe they could expand the scope a bit. I mean, it's set in year 3000 or whatever - they can pull any far-out shit they want to.

But it's on cable - they don't need to pull huge audience, just pull decent-size but loyal audience. I'd like to think they have it. I mean, I hear geeky stuff is considered somewhat chic now.

first two episodes... (1, Informative)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 3 years ago | (#32671858)

I saw the first two episodes last night, and they were just okay. *shrug* I'd say the second episode is better than the first, though, especially Amy's reaction to the potential end of the world.

Re:first two episodes... (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672362)

You mean when she realizes she's a ghost?

Re:first two episodes... (3, Insightful)

Vrallis (33290) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672392)

I agree the second was better than the first, though I also thought the double take by the guys *after* Amy's reaction was even better ("Oh wait, will you guys be there too? Ummm maybe not!").

I love Futurama, but not just for the intellectual side. How many comedy cartoons have had really good tear-jerker moments? Fry's dog, the story of his five-leaf clover, Leela's parents, etc. That's a damned rare thing for me, and like most guys pretty hard to admit, but Futurama's been able to pull it off more than a couple times.

Re:first two episodes... (1)

russlar (1122455) | more than 4 years ago | (#32673002)

I saw the first two episodes last night, and they were just okay. *shrug*

Bite my shiny metal ass.

Penalty: Intentional Grounding. (4, Informative)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 3 years ago | (#32671876)

The reason why Fox ruined the original airings of Futurama was because they slotted it at 7:30pm on Sundays... a time slot that got murdered by NFL runovers in the Eastern and Central time zones. Fans couldn't reliably tune in because they didn't know if the episode would air, if the episode would be joined in progress, or if the entire airing would be deleted by an overtime NFL game. Fox's policy of running Sunday primetime as soon as possible... either at 7pm sharp if there was no NFL game, or as soon as it concluded if there was one, made whether Futurama's slot would air and when dependent on which NFL game your city saw that afternoon.

What a mess... since getting the NFL, Fox never had a successful Sunday 7pm hour. A few years after repeated throwing good shows into a bad time slot, they finally got the clue. Fox Sports now produces a postgame show called The OT (a play-on-words based on The OC, which this show has outlasted) that is joined like the halftime show as each game concludes, and can show bonus coverage of games still going to stations that get stuck with an early finish, and always ends at 8pm ET sharp. Thanks for watching Fox NFL Sunday, The Simpsons is next.

Re:Penalty: Intentional Grounding. (1, Insightful)

Kjella (173770) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672136)

Has there ever been a show getting canceled that slashdot doesn't blame on the time slots and/or episode ordering? Seriously people, if the audience had been big enough and the ratings high enough, they would have moved them to prime time slots. The last pick of the shows also get last pick of the time slots, either deal with it or stay off the air then. It's just getting really tiring to hear every time someone's pet show gets canceled that it was never the show's fault. It was never a weird and obscure show that not many liked, it was always some external reason for its failure. I'd like to say the same about a series of space cowboys, but then I'd probably get lynched even though I bought both the DVD set and the movie. I liked it, but I also know it was way off mainstream. Same goes for almost everything sci-fi, almost by definition it's a narrow genre. At least fantasy has had a real uptake with LotR and Harry Potter and the Narnia series, though something like the Legend of the Seeker still gets canceled.

Re:Penalty: Intentional Grounding. (1)

Joe Tie. (567096) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672228)

On one hand, I agree. Though on the other I find it hard to not blame the neilson system a lot of the time. Having talked to people who were formally part of it, the amount of error that each person generates has to be off the charts. I've only talked to three, but every single one of them admitted that they'd stream stuff off the net instead of logging it fairly often. Which is automatically going to screw over any show whose target audience is nerdy people.

Re:Penalty: Intentional Grounding. (5, Insightful)

forkazoo (138186) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672252)

Has there ever been a show getting canceled that slashdot doesn't blame on the time slots and/or episode ordering? Seriously people, if the audience had been big enough and the ratings high enough, they would have moved them to prime time slots. The last pick of the shows also get last pick of the time slots, either deal with it or stay off the air then.

Sure, there are plenty of shows that deserved to die. You don't generally hear much about them because they deserved to die. Nobody invests time and effort begging to have them back, and for the most part they are so forgettable that you never hear about them again.

The reason that most canceled shows that you do hear about are spoken of as being canceled unfairly is simply a selection bias. To throw out one that I do remember - SeaQuest. I think it was a good premise, but by the third season it had gone so far from what they had originally intended that they lost off of their fans, but never managed to attract their new target audience. No amount of scheduling games would have made up for the sheer badness of some of the episodes. Scheduling games didn't help the continuity when a character was mourned, got killed off and then was alive and well, never to be seen again. Still, the show wasn't all that dependent on the continuity, so the executives who rearranged the episodes didn't have a huge negative effect.

OTOH, for Firefly they refused to show the damned pilot at any point in the original broadcast run. If "Lost" had been treated as badly as Firefly, it never would have made any money either.

Re:Penalty: Intentional Grounding. (1)

profplump (309017) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672478)

The problem with SeaQuest DSV was season 2. Season 1 was promising, but season 2 went all mid-90s-telepathy on us, like B5 season 5. As you noted season 3 wasn't the same show at all, but IMHO it was by far the best. I think they should have re-launched it as a spin-off instead of pretending it was the same show.

Re:Penalty: Intentional Grounding. (4, Funny)

gad_zuki! (70830) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672984)

>You don't generally hear much about them because they deserved to die.

How often do you hear, "Would you like to sign my petition to bring back Tru Calling and Fish Police?"

Re:Penalty: Intentional Grounding. (1)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672268)

This was a show that found its audience after Cartoon Network's Adult Swim block picked it up and the DVD sales shot through the roof. People who had seen an episode or two but didn't know where to see another saw the series played in its entirety there. (And btw... I have some inside info that a well-placed showing of a certain episode and having it be quoted to the right CBS execs led to the planning of soap cancellations now going and that "Game shows are back!")

Re:Penalty: Intentional Grounding. (4, Insightful)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672274)

Has there ever been a show getting canceled that slashdot doesn't blame on the time slots and/or episode ordering?

Yes. First, "Slashdot" isn't an entity which expresses opinions of the type you describe, different groups of individual slashdot posters express such opinions, and the opinions you describe have been expressed on slashdot regarding a handful of programs that have been cancelled over a period of very many years, out of the dozens of series that are cancelled each year.

Seriously people, if the audience had been big enough and the ratings high enough, they would have moved them to prime time slots.

Showing episodes out-of-order, when they are written with a broad story arc, clearly interferes with developing an audience(the Firefly issue), as does not showing a show consistently at all (the Futurama issue, which wasn't about timeslot so much as about following NFL football and thus frequently being either cancelled entirely or joined "in progress".)

The Futurama scheduling decision is clearly the kind of thing a network does because it doesn't think a show has that much value to start with -- it is treating the show as disposable filler and isn't even pretending to try to market it effectively. It's perfectly reasonable to believe that that kind of behavior interfered with the show reaching an audience that it otherwise would have. In fact, the DVD sales which evidenced that there was such an audience that the original broadcast schedule had failed to reach is the reason the show was renewed after the first time it was cancelled, and the fact that it has remained on the air since (whether in danger of being cancelled each season or not) pretty clearly indicates that even Fox thinks that the show is viable, despite it not having appeared to be under the initial treatment Fox gave it.

Re:Penalty: Intentional Grounding. (1)

rm999 (775449) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672292)

I agree with you. It's not the time slot, it's that shows like Futurama target niche audiences that are hard to market to.

It's a common pattern with these types of shows: its target audience doesn't find out about it, so it doesn't become popular, so the network neglects the show. Then fans of the show do the network marketers' jobs for them, the general public finds out what an awesome show it is, and the network regrets treating the show poorly, after it is too late.

Off the top of my head, this happened to Family Guy, Futurama, Arrested Development, and the Wire. Probably many others. It's not that the networks didn't give these shows a chance (all of my examples were marketed heavily for at least awhile), it's just really hard to get the Average Joe into them for one reason or another. I'm not sure they deserve to be in really coveted time slots, they just deserve the funding they need to keep producing shows. The network needs patience because it won't make its money back until the DVDs are released.

Re:Penalty: Intentional Grounding. (3, Interesting)

Vrallis (33290) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672446)

Have there ever been any shows other than Futurama, Firefly and maybe Family Guy that Slashdot has ever given a rat's ass about getting canceled? I don't remember timeslot arguments coming up in Firefly or Family Guy.

And don't waste breath promoting Legend of the Seeker around a lot of us here, we're still pissed at how badly they destroyed the Sword of Truth books in this show. They turned an epic story into a Hercules/Xena style corny weekly show. Hell, every plot point that gave the first book such a good ending was completely destroyed in the first episode.

Re:Penalty: Intentional Grounding. (1)

mog007 (677810) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672992)

Fox is notorious for killing shows that have huge audiences and ratings (which seems kind of redundant). Dark Angel was a critical success and it had huge ratings, but they axed it during the second season. Titus was another critical success with good ratings, considering the time slot, but didn't make it past season 3.

Re:Penalty: Intentional Grounding. (2, Insightful)

Pharmboy (216950) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672152)

Fox hasn't learned anything. Remember, this is the network that cancelled Firefly.

Re:Penalty: Intentional Grounding. (1)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672200)

Firefly was also the victim of bad scheduling on Fox's part... local stations were allowed to show local MLB coverage on Fridays, and that led to new episodes airing at 1:43am or such after the game's conclusion and a delayed late local newscast.

Re:Penalty: Intentional Grounding. (2, Interesting)

ailnlv (1291644) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672342)

So what exactly killed arrested development and family guy?

Re:Penalty: Intentional Grounding. (4, Funny)

Surt (22457) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672776)

I'm pretty sure that arrested development was killed by a yacht explosion.

Re:Penalty: Intentional Grounding. (4, Interesting)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672840)

Arrested Development had too many big-name stars, and therefore a bloated budget. It was popular, but not popular enough to justify its production costs. Remember, the object of the TV game is to make money, not keep fans happy.

Family Guy was also on the Sunday post-NFL schedule and not given right-of-way over The Simpsons, and therefore also killed by the same factors that did in Futurama.
 

Re:Penalty: Intentional Grounding. (3, Interesting)

hedwards (940851) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672988)

Probably the fact that it was on Fox. Fox has a pretty well established reputation for dooming shows via incompetent scheduling and unrealistic expectations. I can pretty much guarantee that had Seinfeld been on Fox it would've been canceled before the second season. I'm not personally a fan of that show, but most of the fans seem to agree that it got funnier the more episodes you saw. Had Fox bought it they would never have allowed it to get big before canceling it.

Fortunately now that shows are available on DVD shortly after or even while still being produced, people do have some ability to say that they want that show back. Which is sort of what has given Family Guy the ability to come back from the dead twice.

Re:Penalty: Intentional Grounding. (1)

antdude (79039) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672862)

FOX should had used Futurama after The Simpsons instead of King of the Hills. It would had been Matt Groening's animated hour! Also, this was way before Family Guy, American Dad, and [shudders] Cleveland Show were shown.

Re:Penalty: Intentional Grounding. (1)

Darinbob (1142669) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672926)

Worse is when the game ends with plenty of time, and yet the next show is STILL preempted because of the post game chat...

Since the opener "Good news everyone!!" was taken (5, Funny)

Tanks*Guns (587234) | more than 3 years ago | (#32671894)

Fry, it's been years since medical school, so remind me. Disemboweling in your species, fatal or non-fatal?

precipice? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32671932)

I thought this show was canceled years ago.

Re:precipice? (2, Insightful)

skine (1524819) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672376)

Yes, it was canceled, and rightly so.

It may make me unpopular, but I fully believe that it's important to bow out before you're useless. Far too many shows wait until they're beyond all hope before bowing out.

It may not have been the choice of the Futurama crew to bow out when they did, but they had one of the best endings I've ever seen in my TV viewings. It was emotional and inspiring.

Then Comedy Central comes along an tries to bring it back to life. It's like Frankenstein, creating a monster that is, but not completely, unlike anything a human would ever enjoy.

Re:precipice? (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672486)

Yes, all those same writers, Actors, animations studio, sound guys. With everyone back, how could they possible hope to be as good as before~

It ended way to soon. Too much story left, and it's setting allows it to be more topical.
300 Big Boys shows how spot on the creators can be, and I seen no evidence there skills have been diminished.

If they gt different actors, and made a stronger, faster, smarter, but uglier Futurama, you might have a point.

Re:precipice? (3, Insightful)

skine (1524819) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672700)

You, and whoever modded me troll, seem to misunderstand me. I'm in no way saying that Futurama will never be good again.

What I'm saying is that it died a good death. Perhaps it died far too early, but it had the best death imaginable.

I know that we all are left wanting more, but it ended at exactly the right time.

No spoilers. Honest! (0, Flamebait)

zhilla2 (1586095) | more than 3 years ago | (#32671964)

First episode was great, second so-so. IMHO, humor quality dropped a bit (movies included), but I'm still watching it. Same with the Simpsons - many old school fans are dissapointed a lot. Thing is, their revolutionary format wore off a bit. Rest of the world followed, and cought on. But I'm still watching, albeit it just does not feel the same. Why? Because those were AWESOME shows, and are now still GOOD shows, still some hillarious gags all around. And I'm not one of those to say "Worst episode EVER!!" and then watch again next week. I'm perhaps a die hard fan, but waging wars over cartoons is plain stupid. Just stop watching if you don't like it.

Re:No spoilers. Honest! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32672072)

... waging wars over cartoons is plain stupid.

But... what should I do with my life, then?

Re:No spoilers. Honest! (1)

zhilla2 (1586095) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672088)

Try building home made furniture from discarded logs!

Re:No spoilers. Honest! (1)

LambdaWolf (1561517) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672134)

Because those were AWESOME shows, and are now still GOOD shows, still some hillarious gags all around. And I'm not one of those to say "Worst episode EVER!!" and then watch again next week. I'm perhaps a die hard fan, but waging wars over cartoons is plain stupid.

Agreed.

IMHO, humor quality dropped a bit (movies included), but I'm still watching it. Same with the Simpsons - many old school fans are dissapointed a lot.

The good news (everyone!) about this is that both Futurama and The Simpsons can be much less funny than they were at the peak and still be much funnier than the median for comedies on TV. I admit that I don't watch The Simpsons as habitually as I used to, but I still catch episodes on Hulu now and then and, even though recent episodes compare poorly to the best ones, I'm entertained and glad the show is still being made. Angry fanboys are missing out.

I'm confident that the new Futurama episodes will be at least that good.

Re:No spoilers. Honest! (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 4 years ago | (#32673004)

The problem with the Simpsons lately is that they've been on the air so long that all the shows I've seen in the last few years, which admittedly isn't many, are mostly rehashes of previous shows. Sure they don't do the same things, but most of the gags and jokes are variations on ones that we've already seen. Sure they still elicit a laugh or two, but it's clearly a show that should've been canceled for its own good.

Re:No spoilers. Honest! (1)

broken_chaos (1188549) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672534)

I didn't really like the second episode much at all... The ending was a little too cruel to Fry, after everything. Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but it also felt a little out of sorts for the show as a whole. The first felt like a "Well, lets pick ourselves up again and get going.", so it wasn't bad. A little roundabout-confusing, but I think that was the point.

Also, some of the humour felt a little... Forced? Blatant? Over-explained? Like the reference to CSI Miami -- I mean, the joke worked fine, but having to spell out the punchline felt a little like insulting the audience and explaining it with a reference to a thousand-year-old TV show (by Futurama's count) was a little jarring. I know it's Futurama, but suspension of disbelief still needs something to hold on to.

Wait...how long's this been on? (2, Funny)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672084)

Futurama's been on the air so long they should name the season-1 DVD's "Pastarama".

Re:Wait...how long's this been on? (1)

skine (1524819) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672780)

Mmm...pasta...

Re:Wait...how long's this been on? (1)

StikyPad (445176) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672942)

That's what I saw too. Maybe "Yesterama".

Futurama's for fags (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32672128)

Pull your heads out of your asses you dumb ass geek bitches.

Fags for Futurama (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32672384)

We're here! We're queer! We're super excited that Futurama's near!

And I have GOT to say that the alt-universe styles in The Farnsowrth Paradox were way better than the tired colors in the rest of the series.

Ciao! Have a super day!

Everyone now senteced to... (5, Funny)

rshol (746340) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672190)

Death,

By snu snu!!

Carry on.

Re:Everyone now senteced to... (3, Insightful)

tenton (181778) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672760)

The spirit is willing, but the flesh is spongy and bruised.

Re:Everyone now senteced to... (1)

kramulous (977841) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672820)

And which one rocked your world?

Yay same universe (2, Informative)

Beerdood (1451859) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672194)

After the wormhole plunge in the 4th movie, I was a little worried they'd be somewhere new with only their core characters if more new episodes came out. Nice to know Zapp Brannigan is still around.

Re:Yay same universe (1)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672364)

For me it was the other way around. I thought: Yes! Finally we’ll have a chance to get rid of that horrible horrible part of the world for good! Really. More Zoidberg and weirdness! Less Brannagan & co!

Good news! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#32672294)

FTFA:

So I just want to reassure everybody, we did get the entire voice cast back. I mean everybody up and down the line. And similarly, again, luckily, having goodwill. And I think people, looking back upon the old days, we have a writing staff which is composed entirely of veterans dating back to the Fox days, and got our same animators, Rough Draft Studio Tech, and our same composer, Chris Tyng, so I think it will feel very continuous with the original run of the show.

Good News Everyone! Comedy Central just cancelled (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 3 years ago | (#32672340)

the season premier.
That's not good new at all. also, it's a lie.

Re:Good News Everyone! Comedy Central just cancell (2, Funny)

macara (1813628) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672744)

Phew, for a moment there I thought i'd have to order more Torgo Executive Powder.

Fox yet? (1)

yoshi_mon (172895) | more than 4 years ago | (#32672982)

David brings up Fox a few times in the interview and seems to imply that they still are a part of this new season? Do they somehow still hold some of the rights to Futurama and are just 'leasing' them to Viacom right now? (Forgive my lack of knowledge if there is a better word to be used there.)

He also goes so far as to talk about Fox when discussing a real feature length movie. So given that Viacom easily has the resources, if they were so inclined, and are no stranger to movies themselves further makes me think that Fox still owns Futurama?

dfgksykdtykdrtyk (-1, Troll)

TNREQUINh (1840700) | more than 4 years ago | (#32673012)

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