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Believing You Are Very Good Or Evil Boosts Your Physical Capabilities

samzenpus posted more than 4 years ago | from the strength-of-heart dept.

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Research by Kurt Gray, a doctoral student in psychology at Harvard, shows that a person's capacity for willpower and physical endurance increases if they perceive themselves as good or evil. "Evil" acts in particular give a person a large boost in physical strength. From the article: “'People perceive those who do good and evil to have more efficacy, more willpower, and less sensitivity to discomfort,' Gray said. 'By perceiving themselves as good or evil, people embody these perceptions, actually becoming more capable of physical endurance.' Gray’s findings run counter to the notion that only those blessed with heightened willpower or self-control are capable of heroism, suggesting instead that simply attempting heroic deeds can confer personal power."

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192 comments

Midichlorian testing to come soon (3, Funny)

Drakkenmensch (1255800) | more than 4 years ago | (#32717442)

The force is strong in this one.

Re:Midichlorian testing to come soon (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32717608)

yeah.. yeah.. but what side is stronger

Re:Midichlorian testing to come soon (3, Interesting)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718848)

I really hate that scene. Lucas dropped that line to try to move the "force" from being Fantasy Fiction magic (and quell complaints that Star Wars is not science fiction). But it still doesn't explain what "the force" is supposed to be. Are the midichlorians a bunch of tiny wizards ala Harry Potter casing "force" spells everywhere? It's still just nonsense.

This is why I hate Fantasy that tries itself off as "a possible future" science fiction reality. No. No. No. I'm sorry but there will never be magic in our universe..... maybe in some neighboring universe, but not in ours

For more info, I recommend this excellent video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDNrnpefGio [youtube.com]

Re:Midichlorian testing to come soon (3, Funny)

Cicada7 (1051002) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718980)

"Any significantly advanced technology..", yadda yadda, you all know the quote.

To anyone living prior to the 1900's, television, the internet, cell phones.. they'd all be magic. You could certainly try to explain the technology away, but likely the explination would also be significantly advanced enough to be percieved as magic. Electron tunneling whoosawhatsits? I just wants my fancy movin' picture porn to come on over the tubes and light up my screen!

Re:Midichlorian testing to come soon (2, Insightful)

thesandtiger (819476) | more than 4 years ago | (#32719212)

Midichlorians may simply be organisms that are capable of exerting heretofore unknown forces in the universe or modifying the interactions of currently known forces (suppressing, increasing, reversing them, whatever). Plants, for example, seem to use quantum entanglement as a part of photosynthesis, according to some recent news stories I've read - why couldn't there be other organisms out there that take advantage of other quirks of physics?

Or maybe they're organisms that have evolved that feed on force energy, and their presence in someone's body isn't giving them the force, but simply a way of getting an idea of whether or not they're strong with it. For example, white blood cell counts are used as a way of inferring whether or not someone has an infection. I think this is a more probable explanation, as, given the fact that Vader lost both arms and legs and was *still* phenomenally powerful, the midichlorians in his arms and legs were probably not contributing to his power.

Personally, I don't think the force needed to be explained, but I don't think that the explanation they gave was as much bullshit as people seem to think.

I'm with you, though, in that I think stories that try to explain why certain features of their universe work tend to really wind up underwhelming. Let magic be magic - we were perfectly OK for 20+ years with the idea that Jedi are basically magic, why spoil it with something mundane?

Re:Midichlorian testing to come soon (1)

armareum (925270) | more than 4 years ago | (#32720072)

It's not that they *use* quantum entanglement per se; it's that the electron transport chain present in choloroplasts has evolved to be as efficient as it can, which happens to take advantage of quantum effects.

Re:Midichlorian testing to come soon (1)

ulski (1173329) | more than 4 years ago | (#32719926)

except Star Wars is supposed to take place "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...." - which means it is not about a possible future, but I agree with you one that fantasy movies often are so far fetched, that the whole "movie universe" they try to build in your mind fall apart

Playing your alignment? (5, Funny)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 4 years ago | (#32717454)

What if you are Neutral Neutral...would you just collapse in a heap of jello?

Re:Playing your alignment? (2, Funny)

XanC (644172) | more than 4 years ago | (#32717504)

What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power?

Re:Playing your alignment? (2, Funny)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 4 years ago | (#32717654)

What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power?

Feh. A man doesn't lust; a man takes. ::fends off the feminists:: I'm just playing my character's alignment! Chauvinist/neutral.

Re:Playing your alignment? (2, Funny)

0xdeadbeef (28836) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718330)

::fends off the feminists::

No, that won't make them touch you, either.

Re:Playing your alignment? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32718676)

I'm not a Chauvinist... I just have standards.

Re:Playing your alignment? (4, Informative)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718898)

Sadly you are correct. The men who TAKE are the ones who get sex and marriage (and maybe even some adultery on the side). Us nice guys finish last because women find us "weak" non-confident and unattractive.

No I'm not bitter. Why do you ask?

Re:Playing your alignment? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32720248)

Was this modded funny because there is no "+1 this is true and it's killing us" option?

Re:Playing your alignment? (1)

jockeys (753885) | more than 4 years ago | (#32717900)

or is he just born with a heart full of neutrality?

Re:Playing your alignment? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32718064)

A knife can do that.

Re:Playing your alignment? (1)

PatHMV (701344) | more than 4 years ago | (#32717734)

I was always fond of "chaotic neutral" alignment, myself...

Re:Playing your alignment? (2, Interesting)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 4 years ago | (#32717854)

We had a buddy back in the day who made an attempt at a Lawful Evil character. It's much harder than you think.

Re:Playing your alignment? (2, Insightful)

hoggoth (414195) | more than 4 years ago | (#32717962)

I hate to go all Godwin on you, but isn't the best example of evil in the past 100 years a perfect example of 'lawful evil'?

Re:Playing your alignment? (1)

HBI (604924) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718184)

The arbitrary nature of the ruler in question was far more in evidence than organizational skills or attention to any rule of law.

Think Chaotic.

Re:Playing your alignment? (2, Insightful)

hoggoth (414195) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718682)

Chaotic is Conan running into a crowd of enemies whirling his sword. Chaotic is 'V for Vendetta' disrupting the machinery of the 'lawful evil' society around him. Chaotic is the Unibomber.

The Nazi war machine was a well organized, disciplined army running on precise rules. The rule of law was despicable, but a rule of law nonetheless.

Re:Playing your alignment? (1)

Chris Mattern (191822) | more than 4 years ago | (#32719944)

The Nazi war machine was a well organized, disciplined army running on precise rules.

No, that describes the *German* war machine, that was built before the Nazis ever got there. The Nazis themselves weren't really any of those things.

Re:Playing your alignment? (1)

Palpatine_li (1547707) | more than 4 years ago | (#32719994)

Nazi war machine was so poorly organized that it lost to USSR in spite of the fact that Germany had much more industrial potential. I'd say that's pretty neutral evil. (since it's still organized better than some shame of a war effort like Italy had made.

Re:Playing your alignment? (1)

raddan (519638) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718672)

Actually, I think you could make the case that the Nazi party's rise to power (and Hitler's in particular) was illegal, or at least extralegal, given that most of the power shifts were the result of late-night coups and street shootings. On the other hand, the Enabling Act, which essentially dissolved Parliament, was passed through in a legal manner. I suspect that most leaders, either famous for their goodness or infamous for their evil, work outside of the law to make their agendas happen.

Re:Playing your alignment? (1)

Talla (95956) | more than 4 years ago | (#32719132)

> I hate to go all Godwin on you, but isn't the best example of evil in the past 100 years a perfect example of 'lawful evil'?

No, that's an example of a few lawful evil making the laws and a lot of lawful neutral following them.

Re:Playing your alignment? (2, Interesting)

jbeach (852844) | more than 4 years ago | (#32719578)

I don't think the Nazis were even lawful evil, since they were quite ready to violate their own laws if it suited them. But they weren't chaotic evil - that would be more like, say, Manson. "Neutral Evil" might better describe them...

Perhaps the best description of Lawful evil might be Jim Jones, and various other leaders who perish with their cults. They are following their own laws, even to their own doom.

Of course, where D&D steps out of touch with reality (besides, you know, with every single fantasy element : ) ) is that people almost never - and I'm tempted to say never - really view themselves as evil. Even if they may claim they're "evil", they always have some sort of justification for their actions. They're evil because "society is evil", or "God is evil", or "my parents made me evil." There's never anyone in real life who's like "I freely chose evil, just because I dig it and it's fun." That only exists in fictional characters like Hannibal Lecter.

Re:Playing your alignment? (1)

jbeach (852844) | more than 4 years ago | (#32719482)

"Lawful Evil" really requires a very specific type of insanity, where the person is beholden to their own laws and can't just remake those laws arbitrarily. The only real-world analogue for this that I can think of is Mao. Hitler, Stalin and most of the other dictators from both the political left and political right had a very arbitrary and capricious outlook on the law - laws were for others and not for them. Which is not what someone who was truly of the outlook "Lawful" would operate...

Re:Playing your alignment? (1)

Chris Mattern (191822) | more than 4 years ago | (#32719920)

Not really. The "well-oiled machine" image of Nazism was mostly propaganda. In fact, it was mostly run on nepotism and personal favoritism. The parts of the German war machine that were well-organized and worked according to well-laid out policies with those parts that were there *before* the Nazis (like the General Staff).

Re:Playing your alignment? (1)

chronosan (1109639) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718176)

Wouldn't that just be the Djinn from Wishmaster?

Re:Playing your alignment? (1)

ma1wrbu5tr (1066262) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718866)

We had a buddy back in the day

..implies it was a while ago. With so many role models for "lawful evil" being exposed in the real world in the last decade, I think it would be much easier now.

Every campaign has a Lawful Evil in it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32719012)

We used to call him/her "Dungeon Master" and run when he laughed.

Lawful Evil only requires that you use the rules to screw everyone around you.

Re:Every campaign has a Lawful Evil in it... (1)

hedleyroos (817147) | more than 4 years ago | (#32720334)

I wish I had a few mod points for you AC (hey Taco, how about a Limited Wish button?).

Re:Playing your alignment? (1)

ma1wrbu5tr (1066262) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718802)

Han? Is that you? What do you mean you have a bad feeling about this?

Re:Playing your alignment? (1)

jbeach (852844) | more than 4 years ago | (#32719438)

I kinda dig chaotic good. But that's pretty much a projection of my life outlook.

Re:Playing your alignment? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32717912)

Your neutralness, it's a beige alert.

If I don't survive, tell my wife I said, "hello."

Re:Playing your alignment? (1)

rlp (11898) | more than 4 years ago | (#32719028)

What if you are Neutral Neutral...would you just collapse in a heap of jello?

Stop insulting us Druids, you insensitive clod! :-)

Re:Playing your alignment? (1)

besalope (1186101) | more than 4 years ago | (#32719730)

What if you are Neutral Neutral...would you just collapse in a heap of jello?

Stop insulting us Druids, you insensitive clod! :-)

Shape-shift form Gelatinous Cube?

Re:Playing your alignment? (1)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 4 years ago | (#32720106)

Shape-shift form Gelatinous Cube?

The beauty part is, you can't get to the next level...so the kids just keep coughin' up quarters, you know? ::snort::

Re:Playing your alignment? (1)

jbeach (852844) | more than 4 years ago | (#32719410)

Basically, in the real world equivalent: a neutral neutral is a gray boring life.

It is purpose that defines us (1)

Arancaytar (966377) | more than 4 years ago | (#32717474)

Smith was right!

Re:It is purpose that defines us (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32717508)

Smith was right!

I don't remember that quote from the 135 minute epic known as The Matrix. Was that after he captured Morpheus, or before Neo kicked his ass in the end?

Re:It is purpose that defines us (1)

Chris Mattern (191822) | more than 4 years ago | (#32720022)

Smith was right!

So, when do we start getting Lenses? Boskone isn't going to just wait around, you know!

So being netural is the worst chocie then? (1)

genner (694963) | more than 4 years ago | (#32717506)

What makes a man turn neutral ... Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

Re:So being netural is the worst chocie then? (2, Insightful)

proc_tarry (704097) | more than 4 years ago | (#32719520)

OLIVER: How hard was it to remind neutral during World War II?

MAURER: Well, I think this is always a debate and I think we do make a clear distinction between our neutrality as an instrument of foreign policy and what we think as individuals and what the country thinks.

OLIVER: But then, the neutrality issue seems complicated. Now obviously, Hitler did some very bad things, we know that. How do you focus on the positive things to balance that out?

MAURER: It's not a question of positive. It's a question of our neutrality has always been a state-driven concept of not participating in war.

OLIVER: Was there not just a little voice of humanity inside you saying this is terrible, we should really do something about it?
Story continues below

MAURER: As a question of principle, it's unadvisable for a country as small as ours to participate in war. Why should we?

OLIVER: So: Easy to take a position on neutrality, hard to take a position on Hitler.

MAURER: We did take strong positions on Hitler and many other things. We didn't participate in the war. That's two different things.

OLIVER: [imitating Hitler] "Would it be possible for me to keep my gold here?" [Imitating the Swiss] "Ah, Adolf! Of course! Lovely to see you again. Come back in! What have you been up to? Actually, don't tell me, I want to be able to say I don't know."

[uncomfortable pause]

OLIVER: Is this neutral anger, or real anger, Mr. Ambassador?

Re:So being netural is the worst chocie then? (1)

Fulcrum of Evil (560260) | more than 4 years ago | (#32719858)

Priceless!

I told you! I told you so! (2, Interesting)

jeffmeden (135043) | more than 4 years ago | (#32717510)

Gray’s findings run counter to the notion that only those blessed with heightened willpower or self-control are capable of heroism, suggesting instead that simply attempting heroic deeds can confer personal power.

See? You can will yourself to have heroic physical capabilities! Batman *isn't* bullshit! He may have bought his fame, and all his cool gadgets, but that doesn't stop him from willing himself into a superhero. Thank you, modern science, for seeing the light.

Re:I told you! I told you so! (2, Interesting)

hedwards (940851) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718138)

That's been established for a really long time. Winding up in texts from the Bhagavad Gita to The Art Of War. And frequently gets parodied in western pop culture. It's somewhat tied into the great strength of chimps. Chimps don't have really have any more muscle than a similarly sized person, but so much of our muscles are used to control precise movements that we lose out a lot on strength. Similarly by clearing the mind of doubt we can cease fighting with ourselves and become far more powerful and coordinated than we normally would.

The reason why is simply that being careful tends to cause for weak performance as a result of the excess thinking it requires. Which is why everybody from martial artists of old to marines will train and train and train until they can do without thinking.

Re:I told you! I told you so! (1)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 4 years ago | (#32720252)

Chimps don't have really have any more muscle than a similarly sized person, but so much of our muscles are used to control precise movements that we lose out a lot on strength.

As I heard it, it's actually that we just don't activate as many muscle clusters simultaneously as chimps do. It's not about fine motor control when it comes to big muscles like the quadriceps or biceps, it's just that we're optimized for endurance over strength.

And when we do activate all of our muscles at once, we tend to injure ourselves because our skeletons aren't designed for it.

In related news... (5, Funny)

Kral_Blbec (1201285) | more than 4 years ago | (#32717540)

science discovers adrenaline. Story at 5

Re:In related news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32717716)

science discovers adrenaline. Story at 5

How does adrenaline affect self-control? You would think it would make you less stable.

Re:In related news... (2, Informative)

somersault (912633) | more than 4 years ago | (#32717862)

The type of self control mentioned in TFS isn't "I probably shouldn't eat another donut", it's "oh fuck my legs are really tired and sore, I wanna go lie down", and getting a boost of adrenaline would help you push through that kind of thing.

i am superman! (1)

bigrockpeltr (1752472) | more than 4 years ago | (#32717572)

if i beleive i am good enough does that mean i can run faster than a speeding bullet... jump a building in a single bound? YES!!!!!

now to find the tallest building nearby to test my new found flight.

Re:i am superman! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32718036)

if i beleive i am good enough does that mean i can run faster than a speeding bullet...

Sorry to burst your bubble, but what TFA claims is that you'll withstand pain better than if you didn't have the belief (either of being pure evil or pure good).
For example, if you get your hand severed by a lightsaber, it makes the difference to believe that you're either good or evil and not faint from the pain.

Old as dirt. (4, Informative)

cyphercell (843398) | more than 4 years ago | (#32717592)

"The good fighters of old first put themselves beyond the possibility of defeat, and then waited for an opportunity of defeating the enemy."

  Sun Tzu

Re:Old as dirt. (3, Funny)

hedwards (940851) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718048)

That text is most wise, much of it though is common sense to those with a knowledge of combat. Personally, I prefer Zapp Brannigan's Big Book of War.

Re:Old as dirt. (2, Insightful)

misexistentialist (1537887) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718196)

That quote is not about "belief".

My evil powers (1)

benwiggy (1262536) | more than 4 years ago | (#32717594)

So I can my evil powers for good.....?

Re:My evil powers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32717746)

Is there really a market for canned evil powers?

Re:My evil powers (1)

Nadaka (224565) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718072)

It's evilly delicious!

Psychosomatics. Not too big a shock. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32717678)

Psychosomatics. Not too big a shock.

Oh, Great (4, Funny)

StefanJ (88986) | more than 4 years ago | (#32717700)

Now the Olympics are going to look like a convention of superheroes and supervillains, with each athlete alignment-doping him or herself with more and more outrageous costumes, posturing, and pre-event monologues.

"Sure, he hurled the discus five miles, but did he really have to soak it in the blood of five virgins and dedicate his performance to All-Mighty Set?"

Re:Oh, Great (5, Funny)

sorak (246725) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718312)

So the Olympics will turn into pro-wrestling?

Re:Oh, Great (2, Funny)

TheCarp (96830) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718564)

yes but without all the top notch acting and special effects.

placebo effect (1)

Comboman (895500) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718756)

But now that we know it's a placebo effect, it won't work anymore. Thanks for nothing science.

Re:Oh, Great (1)

boneclinkz (1284458) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718820)

Now the Olympics are going to look like a convention of superheroes and supervillains, with each athlete alignment-doping him or herself with more and more outrageous costumes, posturing, and pre-event monologues.

"Sure, he hurled the discus five miles, but did he really have to soak it in the blood of five virgins and dedicate his performance to All-Mighty Set?"

Bahahaha.

"How are you preparing yourself, mentally, for your event?"

"Last Olypmics, I spent the week before working in a soup kitchen, for a lousy bronze medal. This year, I'm just going to drop a baby down a well."

Re:Oh, Great (2, Funny)

mrheckman (939480) | more than 4 years ago | (#32719614)

How much evil can an Olympic athlete do before it is considered "doping"?

Paladin (2, Interesting)

Stargoat (658863) | more than 4 years ago | (#32717748)

If that's the case, then why is Paladin the worst 3.5e base class?

Re:Paladin (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32717846)

You're playing it wrong...

Re:Paladin (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32718104)

because Paladins have always sucked playing second fiddle to the Cavalier.

Re:Paladin (1)

Securityemo (1407943) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718190)

You just need to play those temporary buffs for all it's worth.

Re:Paladin (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32718304)

Monk is the worst 3.5e base class, actually. And the OA Samurai.

Re:Paladin (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32718408)

"lawful good" isn't actually good. It's goodness for the sake of the law. Doesn't really count.

Re:Paladin (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32718614)

Because the way Clerics are, is what Paladin should have been. Alternatively look up the Prestige Paladin on the SRD (UA alternate rules).

NOTE: Hilarious enough, my captcha word was 'aflame'...

Re:Paladin (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32719430)

If that's the case, then why is Paladin the worst 3.5e base class?

Because Karma is a timeless construct and WoW made the Paladin so damn overpowered it had to be nerfed everywhere else in creation.

Re:Paladin (1)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 4 years ago | (#32720296)

All Paladins suffer from crippling self-doubt.

bwahaha! (1)

dirty_ghost (1673990) | more than 4 years ago | (#32717832)

see evil subject

fear of abject humiliation (1)

goffster (1104287) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718062)

does it for me every time.

direct and inverse things (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32718068)

lately I started to observe this: the stronger you think you are, the stronger you are. and the smarter you think you are, the dumber you are.

Wild mass guessing: (1)

Securityemo (1407943) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718100)

"Writing stories about harming people" releases hormones, adrenaline that increases endurance. Helping people gives an endorphine reward that gives the person more capacity to endure pain. So if I easily fall into a state of seething rage, does that mean I have an easier time accessing this power boost? And what has that to do with "good and evil?"

Hasn't done a damned thing for my Healer (1)

rickb928 (945187) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718116)

But my Ninja, of course, is Neutral.

They say a Scavvy is the best partner, and evil would, of course, be the way to go. All for naught however unless I can find a RoTP and get down there in a hurry. We'll see how it works out.

Funny how it's always the Ninja that cleans up.

Good guys and bad guys nonsense (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32718154)

All of this labeling as good guys and bad guys is something that seems to be of enormous interest in the US. Those kind of labels are all over the news and even US presidents are talking about good vs evil. As I'm from Europe, I've never understood this phenomenon. Rarely would you hear someone express themselves so naively here, and you would NEVER hear this kind of talk in the news or by any mainstream politicians. How do you measure if someone is good or bad? I would think 99.99% of people on this planet are some degree of both.

Re:Good guys and bad guys nonsense (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32718604)

Are you making fun of the USA? Clearly you are an evil person.

Prepare to meet your maker.

what happens when (1)

hesaigo999ca (786966) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718230)

I am pure neutral neutral, do I have to roll an extra die to find out what happens?

Chaotic Neutral? (4, Funny)

ctchristmas (1821682) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718470)

So switching my lvl 7 dark elf warrior from chaotic neutral to evil gives a str bonus?

Re:Chaotic Neutral? (1)

cycleflight (1811074) | more than 4 years ago | (#32719710)

At the very least it gives you the ability to eat a possessed turkey.

And a control? (1)

Nareth (1580251) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718674)

Who is to say that people who are strong are more inclined to evil? In his study he didn't use any sort of a control, so his conclusions aren't necessarily true.

finally now i... (1)

garompeta (1068578) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718704)

I can wear my superhero suit! Now where do I get a jetpack?

Re:finally now i... (1)

TwistedMind66 (1825634) | more than 4 years ago | (#32719360)

Look up for Martin Jet Pack [martinjetpack.com] !

Ah, the science of misinterpretation (4, Insightful)

Layth (1090489) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718760)

IMHO they missed the mark on this one.
It's not about good or evil, it's about catering to the ego's sense of importance.

Speaking from personal experience, if I am going out of my way to commit a personal sacrifice in the name goodness, then my sense of importance becomes expanded for the duration of the act.
For example, if you're running a marathon for a charity you believe in. Suddenly, you may find the wordly measurements of your physical endurance to be exhibiting increased levels.

Are you a super human? No.
You're just willing to grit your teeth and take a little more pain. Because it's *important* and what you're doing is *important* and the ego just eats it up.

We are defined by the choices we live by (1)

NicknamesAreStupid (1040118) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718846)

As fast as you run, you would run faster if you knew a lion were chasing you or if you truly believed a lion were chasing you. Neither good nor evil is a lion, but they were created by mankind for similar effects.

Re:We are defined by the choices we live by (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32719064)

Nice words to quote! :-)

"Neither good nor evil is a lion, but they were created by mankind for similar effects."

Finally, a rational explanation... (1)

JSC (9187) | more than 4 years ago | (#32718974)

...for why Windows has more market share than Linux. ""Evil" acts in particular give a person a large boost in physical strength. "

Conviction is the moral of this story (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32719002)

Here's where I'm confused:
We -didn't- know this already? I, for one, have always known that belief in my own personal power came from a similar belief that I can make a good affect on the world around me. I don't think this is just good or evil either, it's just conviction. When you believe in an ideal, you rise to the occasion.

It's as simple as that.

Why is there no poll attached to this? (1)

ma1wrbu5tr (1066262) | more than 4 years ago | (#32719014)

I am...

1: Good

2: Evil

3: Lawful Good

4: Lawful Evil

5: Chaotic Good

6: Chaotic Evil

7: There is no good or evil, only Carson Daly.

8: A robot

Dark Side (1)

hydromike2 (1457879) | more than 4 years ago | (#32719208)

So this means that the Dark Side is stronger than the Light Side it seems.

So... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32719462)

It's like Fable meets the real world. Now if only I could get a golden halo for being so pure....

Tremble before me puny mortals! (1)

Darinbob (1142669) | more than 4 years ago | (#32719702)

Bwahahaha *cough*. Er, carry on.

Black magic is all will (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32719984)

Will is about the strongest emotion a human can muster. The "dark arts" practitioners know this, and all of their knife waving and pentagram drawing is really just an exercise in will control. Knowing your own will and making it come to be are what black magic is about. If you will something done, you must see it done, a magician cannot go back on her will, once she has willed something to be. I'm not into it, and haven't ever gone to a meeting, but I've read The Book of the Law, and The Black Lodge of Santa Cruz. Those arts do indeed take your mind to a dark place, imo, and I stopped reading shortly after I read those books. They're both available online for free, but they're not light reads, imo.

I'd guess most black magic (magick to the initiates) practitioners don't consider themselves as evil, merely powerful. The idea that black magic "won't work on you if you don't believe it" is upside-down. In fact, magic works on the magician, focusing his or her will . You've probably occasionally met people with very strong wills who basically got what they wanted without a scene, just a presence. Some of these people are "naturals" and others were quite probably trained.

There is a certain cult whose name I won't mention (*cough southpark* oh hell, I'll post anonymously, actually. Scientology, /. will protect me from you I think), whose founder was a practitioner of black magic. The members deny it but the lineage is obvious in the teachings of the cult. They teach you to focus your will, and that you can do anything, and that's why it "works" to some degree. The founder just marketed it well.

Check out L. Ron's son's interview (I think in playboy). If you're ready for a dark and twisted read, try Lonesome Squirrel. Scientology isn't just another religion. It is a black magic pyramid scheme, literally.

[/tinfoil off]

So that's how Google does it then? (1)

Zaiff Urgulbunger (591514) | more than 4 years ago | (#32720182)

They just "think" they're good, and that alone makes them this hugely profitable global company? Cool!!
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