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California To Drop State Rock Over Asbestos Concerns

Soulskill posted more than 4 years ago | from the your-tax-dollars-at-work dept.

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Diamonddavej writes "The LA Times reports that Californian legislators are close to dropping the translucent green rock Serpentine as the state rock of California because of its tenuous association with chrysotile asbestos. Sen. Gloria Romero declares in her bill (SB 624) that Serpentine should be dropped as California's state rock because it 'contains the deadly mineral chrysotile asbestos, a known carcinogen, exposure to which increases the risk of the cancer mesothelioma.' The bill has backing from mesothelioma support groups. Critics point out that Serpentine is a group of 20 different minerals, and Californian Serpentine rarely contains much chrysotile, never mind its dangerous fibrous asbestos form. Its is suspected that lawyers involved in asbestos compensation claims and cleanup companies will profit from the bill. Vast tracts of California where bedrock is made of Serpentine could be declared hazardous to health... even if it contains no crysotile at all! It looks like SB 624 will be passed; it won unanimous bi-partisan support from an Assembly committee last week."

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Well then... (4, Funny)

DWMorse (1816016) | more than 4 years ago | (#32800710)

Rock on.

And People Wonder... (0, Troll)

sycodon (149926) | more than 4 years ago | (#32800954)

...why CA is so screwed up.

Re:And People Wonder... (0, Troll)

Vinegar Joe (998110) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801144)

...why CA is so screwed up.

All the nuts head west.......when they reach the Pacific they can't go any further.

Re:And People Wonder... (1)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801650)

Oregon, Washington and Alaska are further west than California.

Re:And People Wonder... (1)

Forge (2456) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801796)

But the nuts don't know that.

Re:And People Wonder... (-1, Troll)

Moryath (553296) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801766)

Ever wondered why people don't take "climate science" seriously?

Because this kind of misrepresentation is par for the course amongst "climate scientists."

Re:And People Wonder... (1)

Zarf_is_with_you (1382411) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801164)


Why is CA so screwed up? Dude because they need to look like they actually accomplished something.

I find it funny that such a thing as a State Rock exists!

I wonder if the State Rock Band is Twisted Sister?

Zarf

PS. No proof as been shown that Twisted Sister is the cause of any form of cancer.

Re:And People Wonder... (1)

davester666 (731373) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801348)

Yeah, this clearly is the most important issue facing California.

Next most important thing, budget? Debt load? Or tires in landfills?

Re:And People Wonder... (1)

EdIII (1114411) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801502)

Zarf?

You're not related to Pinky are you?

Re:Well then... (1)

homey of my owney (975234) | more than 4 years ago | (#32800982)

Indeed... and on and on... with the generous supply of 'victims' this will supply to mesothelioma minded lawyers.

Re:Well then... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32801182)

Rock on.

/David Caruso //sunglasses //YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!

Swear to Dobbs, I could see the meme in my mind's eye. The best graphics are in the mind.

Re:Well then... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32801466)

Only a small drawback that I can see, that's in Florida.

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Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32800712)

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Re:fp (3, Funny)

DWMorse (1816016) | more than 4 years ago | (#32800732)

Beaten by my iPhone 3G. Can you feel the burn? Oh yes.

And I even snuck in a PUN! FP with humor!

The new state rock - crack. (4, Funny)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 4 years ago | (#32800738)

... like the new state plant - hemp. They can TAX IT to fix their budget crisis (or at least people won't give a %^!@* any more).

In other news... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32800744)

California has a State rock.

Re:In other news... (1)

DWMorse (1816016) | more than 4 years ago | (#32800752)

California had a State rock.

Lemme adjust somethin' for ya.

Re:In other news... (3, Informative)

Beyond_GoodandEvil (769135) | more than 4 years ago | (#32800768)

In other news, goofy Californians fiddle with state rocks while their budget burns, note water still wet film at 11.

Re:In other news... (4, Insightful)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801188)

This is precisely the sort of thing that politicians do when the economic and financial situation pretty much destroys any capacity at meaningful change. It's a classic stunt, where they ban things or make pointless proclamations, because these sort of actions are cheap, allow them to look populist and all governmental, even as, as you point out, Rome burns around them.

Re:In other news... (2, Insightful)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801408)

Also coming up: White Star Line [wikipedia.org] deckchair arrangements may have been less than optimal, claims report.

That's California for you. (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32800802)

Even their state rock is known by the state of California to cause cancer.

Re:That's California for you. (2, Funny)

Volante3192 (953645) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801344)

Fits right in with the air, at least.

Funny thing is this is the non-cancerious asbestos (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32800812)

If California ever decided to do some research like the New England Journal of Medicine they would find articles all the back to the late 1980's showing that this type of asbestos is not cancerious. The other funny thing is the "doctor" in the 1960's who said that cancer was bad wasn't even a doctor but researching someone's background is a lot harder than just gining into some idiot. If they are banning this rock maybe we should ban dihydrogen monoxide I hear that kills thousnads of people every year.

Re:Funny thing is this is the non-cancerious asbes (1)

Overzeetop (214511) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801120)

Whatever you do, don't let them know that Cyanide is made of carbon and nitrogen. It could spell the end of California!

Actually, on second thought...what the hell, let's tell 'em and see what happens!

Re:Funny thing is this is the non-cancerious asbes (1)

pushing-robot (1037830) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801270)

Don't believe him. He obviously works for them. [steampowered.com]

Re:Funny thing is this is the non-cancerious asbes (1)

woboyle (1044168) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801696)

Re: dihydrogen monoxide - I hear that it is the principal cause of drowning...

Re:Funny thing is this is the non-cancerious asbes (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32801750)

"...this type of asbestos is not cancerious."

One: it's spelled cancerous, not cancerious.
Two: Cancerous means being a cancer - e.g. "that lump on your lip is cancerous". By definition, no rock is cancerous (unless it is on a Horta or other silicon based life form, I guess - currently a moot point).

To be capable of causing cancer is to be carcinogenic.

Of course, the rock in question isn't carcinogenic as well as not being "cancerious".

Pet rock (5, Funny)

nOw2 (1531357) | more than 4 years ago | (#32800824)

I had a pet rock. It wasn't as maintenance-free as you'd expect.

Also, is this part of the Daily Mail's efforts to categorise all known substances/things/ideas into those that cause and those that cure cancer?

Re:Pet rock (3, Funny)

decipher_saint (72686) | more than 4 years ago | (#32800946)

is this part of the Daily Mail's efforts to categorise all known substances/things/ideas into those that cause and those that cure cancer?

How would they categorize radiation! The opposite of a shovel... is a shovel!

All joking aside the California state rock should be foam spray painted to look like rock until it bounces off of Captain Kirk's head. MOVIE MAGIC!

Either that or whatever rock is most commonly found in Bronson Canyon.

Re:Pet rock (4, Interesting)

phantomfive (622387) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801136)

For those who are unfamiliar with the style of California, ever since proposition 65, signs have been popping up everywhere warning about cancer (as this entity so eloquently points out [yahoo.com] ). I'm not sure if the warning labels have achieved anything, but there have been allegations of abuse [wikipedia.org] .

Seriously (5, Insightful)

Becausegodhasmademe (861067) | more than 4 years ago | (#32800828)

I find it amusing that a state rock even exists, let alone the fact that it's causing such a ruckus! You Americans!
*ruffles hair*

Re:Seriously (1)

SnarfQuest (469614) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801638)

there's probably also a state virus, hairstyle, eyeshadow color, etc... This is like government holidays, the politicians sign these things into law just to make some group or the other happy. Some school classes spend enormous amounts of time creating things like "international peanut butter and salami sandwich appreciation day" under their teachers tutelage. The politicians hope to gain voters, and the submitters get to proclaim to their friends "Look! I created the states funny walk!"

Next up on the PC list of banned items .. (1)

Archangel Michael (180766) | more than 4 years ago | (#32800836)

... Dihydrogen Monoxide.

Re:Next up on the PC list of banned items .. (0)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801088)

Mostly likely. After all water is filled with dangerous-and-explosive hydrogen! Just ignore the fact that, like this rock, the dangerous component is locked-up inside the molecule and therefore harmless.

California - proof positive that we're not really any more advanced that any other backwards third-world country. (reads constitution) - Is there anything in here that says we can expel a State from the Union, like the Lisbon Treaty allows States to be ejected from the EU? California will soon be the boil on America's ass the same way Greece is a boil on Europe's ass. I can hear the word on the wind already: "bailout"..... "bailout"

Californians - Please don't take offense. You know as well as we do that it's not you that sucks; it's your government that sucks. It's been demoted from AA to A- status (not much higher than junk bonds), and the debt-to-GDP ratio is nearing 10%. That may not sound that high, but remember California can't print money - when it runs out, it runs out.

All the taxpayers in the other states do NOT want to assume responsibility for bailing out Sacramento's mistakes and/or paying their bills, anymore than European taxpayers wanted to assume responsibility for paying Greece's bills.

Re:Next up on the PC list of banned items .. (1)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801366)

California - proof positive that we're not really any more advanced that any other backwards third-world country...California will soon be the boil on America's ass the same way Greece is a boil on Europe's ass...

As a proud native Californian who's travelled across the U.S. - I ask you all why you're so quick to rag on California when all of your dumb-asses are trying to move here and pollute our collective consciousness with your ass-backwards nazi conservatism and bullshit MTV-fueled spring-break pipe-dreams while driving up our property costs and fistfucking our job market, taking those jobs away from native Californians.

Why do so many military from dumb-shit states like Oklahoma and Georgia stationed here call us "the land of the fruits and nuts," then continue to live here after their terms are up? Why are there so many assholes from Boston moving to San Diego to chase stupid dreams like bartending and playing in ska bands?

Welcome to California. Now go home.
If you weren't born here, Get the fuck out. We won't miss you.

Re:Next up on the PC list of banned items .. (2, Insightful)

Low Ranked Craig (1327799) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801662)

Hey, I left after moving there as a kid and living there for over 20 years. California is a beautiful place for the most part but the government really sucks. So I'll make you a deal. We'll all leave, but when you state goes bankrupt and cannot pay it's bills, don't ask us for any money - suck it up and fix your own problems. Deal?

Re:Next up on the PC list of banned items .. (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801848)

Actually CA like most coastal states brings more money to the Fed than it gets back. Without this it might be able to balance its books. Perhaps we should stop feeding the welfare queen that is middle America. I do not live in CA nor much like it when I visited it, I like winter. I live in an east coast state that also gives up money we could use to fund hicks in fly-over country.

Re:Next up on the PC list of banned items .. (1)

Almost-Retired (637760) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801368)

... Dihydrogen Monoxide.

Is a very dangerous substance, usually in short supply in Kalifornia. Too much of it might be a good thing for Kalifornia as it might reduce the idiot percentages a bit.

Unanimous bi-partisan support... (5, Interesting)

DarrenBaker (322210) | more than 4 years ago | (#32800850)

Why is it that every time I read the words "Unanimous bi-partisan support", the result is always and without exception... Trouble?

Re:Unanimous bi-partisan support... (5, Informative)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#32800934)

It means that no one voting understands the issue, and they all think that voting against it will look bad when revealed to the voters (who also don't understand the issue).

Re:Unanimous bi-partisan support... (4, Informative)

Skuld-Chan (302449) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801040)

This is akin to the "all puppies are lovely act" - anyone who doesn't vote yes on it is a communist.

Seriously - doesn't California have bigger problems to tackle? It really is a testament to how broken government is when the only thing they can pass is a change to the state rock.

Re:Unanimous bi-partisan support... (1)

The Archon V2.0 (782634) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801152)

Seriously - doesn't California have bigger problems to tackle?

Of course they do. Cow tails.

Re:Unanimous bi-partisan support... (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801392)

Cowbell, you idiot.

Re:Unanimous bi-partisan support... (1)

flieghund (31725) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801388)

Gloria Romero, the bill's sponsor, is being termed out. She's a lame duck right now with an uncertain future (she placed third in the recent primary for Superintendent of Public Schools). The biggest problem she has is what to do next. Aligning with a potentially divisive (but ultimately meaningless) issue like this gives her something to be remembered by, and possibly positions her for a run for some other tangentially related elected position, like Insurance Commissioner.

Re:Unanimous bi-partisan support... (4, Insightful)

DesScorp (410532) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801398)

This is akin to the "all puppies are lovely act" - anyone who doesn't vote yes on it is a communist.

Seriously - doesn't California have bigger problems to tackle? It really is a testament to how broken government is when the only thing they can pass is a change to the state rock.

More than a testament to broken government, it's a reflection of the state and its people too. This is yet another sign of how California, once the greatest most glamorous state in the union, has become the nation's laughingstock. California looks more and more like Rome at the end of its life. Unfortunately, what happens to California is often a precursor of where the rest of the country is going.

Re:Unanimous bi-partisan support... (1)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801520)

> This is yet another sign of how California, once the greatest most glamorous > state in the union, has become the nation's laughingstock.

Midwesterners have been laughing at California since before WWII.

Hmmm... (4, Funny)

decipher_saint (72686) | more than 4 years ago | (#32800864)

Isn't ALL rock hazardous to your health if you breathe it?

Re:Hmmm... (1)

Scrameustache (459504) | more than 4 years ago | (#32800978)

Isn't ALL rock hazardous to your health if you breathe it?

Remember the safety drill: Stop, drop and roll :)

Re:Hmmm... (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32801284)

It's been modded funny, but it's correct. The most common mineral on the land surface is quartz -- the crystalline form of SiO2. Powder it, breath it in, and eventually you get silicosis [wikipedia.org] . So, obviously we must ban rocks.

In reality, rock *dust* is harmful, but that should be fricking obvious. Take the risk seriously and wear breathing protection, and avoid powdering rocks and breathing it in if you can.

The only rock dust that might not be particularly harmful if inhaled in small quantities could be from minerals that are reactive enough to be completely dissolved in the body. Silica and asbestos are such a problem precisely because they are silicate minerals that *aren't* easily broken down chemically, so the microscopic but sharp grains mechanically damage cells over and over again -- it's like the microscopic equivalent of crushed glass shards. Among the common rocks, limestone (CaCO3) and gypsum (CaSO4) are the only ones I can think of that are easily metabolized. We often eat these ones as food additives. Calcium supplements are often limestone. But too much of that is probably also harmful if breathed in (the lungs have a limited capacity to remove particles), and most natural limestones are not pure CaCO3 (there would be an insoluble residue left over, and that could build up).

I can't believe they're wasting time on this. As the article mentions, much serpentine doesn't even have asbestos.

Re:Hmmm... (1)

woboyle (1044168) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801732)

All rocks are hazardous if applied to one's head at an excessive speed. I think that's what happened to all those California legislators - they all got whacked upside the head by one of those rocks they are going to ban.

Known to the state of California... (2, Funny)

siwelwerd (869956) | more than 4 years ago | (#32800876)

Maybe they should just put warning labels on all the rocks. "Serpentine, the state rock of California, contains substances known to the state of California to cause cancer".

Re:Known to the state of California... (2, Funny)

Scrameustache (459504) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801000)

Maybe they should just put warning labels on all the rocks. "Serpentine, the state rock of California, contains substances known to the state of California to cause cancer".

"Serpentine, the state rock of California, may contain substances known to the state of California to cause cancer".

It's strange (5, Insightful)

insertwackynamehere (891357) | more than 4 years ago | (#32800884)

I thought California was bankrupt or something. But I guess this is the biggest problem.

Re:It's strange (1)

decipher_saint (72686) | more than 4 years ago | (#32800962)

Well it's not going to help tourism if we don't know what rocks we can and cannot breathe via "State rock" designation!

Re:It's strange (1)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801210)

>>>Well it's not going to help tourism if we don't know what rocks we can and cannot breathe via "State rock" designation!

I've visited California twice.

It's hot and dry. The northern part wasn't bad though. Maybe if the state was split in half, North and South California, I'd even be willing to move to the northern part..... kinda similar to how I liked living in North Carolina but thought the southern half sucked.

signed,
tourist

Re:It's strange (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32801668)

You're complaining about a lack of humidity? Try moving to Alabama where your front porch doubles as a sauna in the summer.

Re:It's strange (1)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801564)

Moral and intellectual bankruptcy happened years ago. Financial bankruptcy cannot happen soon enough to this steaming cesspit of gibbering whores we have for a state government.

Here's hoping for no replacement (1)

GrumblyStuff (870046) | more than 4 years ago | (#32800886)

Seriously, what the hell is the point of having a state anything? They got birds, fish, various rodents or whatever the fuck.

Can them all and save us the time of ever having to debate this shit.

Should be banned from even being considered (1)

18_Rabbit (663482) | more than 4 years ago | (#32800892)

..while California doesn't even have a budget. This isn't their job.

Re:Should be banned from even being considered (2, Insightful)

hedwards (940851) | more than 4 years ago | (#32800936)

The problem is that the voters tend to reward such stupid things. Sort of like in 2006, when the Feds were debating same sex marriage and abortion rather than the federal budget and the ongoing wars.

Re:Should be banned from even being considered (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32801128)

The problem is that the voters tend to reward such stupid things. Sort of like in 2006, when the Feds were debating same sex marriage and abortion rather than the federal budget and the ongoing wars.

You mean the same year the Republicans lost control of the House and Senate?

Re:Should be banned from even being considered (0, Offtopic)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801262)

>>>the Feds were debating same sex marriage

Such silliness. People should be free to marry whoever they want, and multiple partners (up to a certain point - not 100s of wives). What the fuck do I care if my neighbor is two married women? Or Mormons practicing "big love". Stop being so damn controlling over other people's lives. It is NONE of your business you ugly shrew.

Re:Should be banned from even being considered (1)

OakDragon (885217) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801552)

People should be free to marry whoever they want, and multiple partners (up to a certain point - not 100s of wives).

Goddam bigot!

Re:Should be banned from even being considered (1)

DriedClexler (814907) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801546)

Yes, especially now that state workers are now having all of their pay above the minimum wage deferred indefinitely [yahoo.com] . How's it feel to be a minimum wage worker in a state with one of the highest costs of living? This is after they've been put on mandatory furlough for a few days each month, giving them a ~10% cut in pay.

Seriously, California is fucked unless they make the budget take priority over shit like this.

Re:Should be banned from even being considered (1, Informative)

Dynedain (141758) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801678)

What you forget to point out is that all those pay cuts are because the state can't actually lay off any of the workers due to union protections.

Meanwhile, in the private sector, companies like mine are laying off 30% of their staff and cutting the pay of everyone else by 10% in order to keep fiscally solvent. Of course this means dramatic cuts to the state because of reduced income and sales taxes. But let's make sure that people in state government keep their jobs and mandatory pay raises. Let's not cut spending, we'll just raises taxes. They're already the highest in the country, what's another couple percent?

State rock??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32800910)

As a non-american i have to ask, What the hell kind of insane place has a 'state rock'? IT'S A ROCK!! Is the state so well run that this is the kind of nonsense they need to have legislation for? Do they have nothing better to do than designate 'state $inanimateobject'?! If that's the case fire them and spend their wages on something useful. What the hell is going on with the world?

State rock assignments are dangerous! (3, Interesting)

cvtan (752695) | more than 4 years ago | (#32800940)

Maybe I'm missing something here, but how does designating something as the state rock cause it to give people cancer? PS: The state rock of Utah is coal which has led to more than 100000 deaths and injuries due to mining (never mind the air pollution issue...).

Re:State rock assignments are dangerous! (0, Troll)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801426)

Dear friend:

Let me introduce you to clean coal. I learned about it from my Electric Car friend. Basically it's coal that is burned extremely hot, so that there's nothing left but gas, and the gas is 99.999% filtered to remove impurities. What's left is cleaner than sucking fumes from a Prius.

Re:State rock assignments are dangerous! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32801872)

I hear that "clean coal" also makes you shit unicorns. Hey, we can *all* make totally bogus facts up!

Many rocks are deadly (1)

davidwr (791652) | more than 4 years ago | (#32800974)

*cue image of evil looking guy sneaking up on unsuspecting California assembly-person holding large green rock in a menacing fashion*

lots of fraud around asbestos (4, Interesting)

phantomfive (622387) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801046)

There's been a lot of fraud around asbestos. Recently it's also transferred to silica dust somewhat. It is based in truth, because asbestosis and silicosis are real dangers, but lawyers have committed real fraud with it. In some lawsuits, the same people who were made sick and diagnosed with asbestosis were later diagnosed by the same doctors with silicosis for a different lawsuit. Here is [wsj.com] that story [wsj.com] . Here are some other lawyers who were recently convicted for fraud with asbestos cases [natchezdemocrat.com] .

Lawyers are one of the biggest areas of fraud and corruption the US right now. In a lot of states, the attorney general sets up a pay-to-play system where they get kickbacks to let certain law firms handle certain legal issues (or even pursue cases that normally would be ignored). In other cases, lawyer lobby organizations try to get laws written in vague ways that will require extra legal work, or as in this case, create potential lawsuits where there doesn't seem to even be danger.

Re:lots of fraud around asbestos (2)

gotem (678274) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801252)

Why dont they just stone all the lawyers with Serpentine

Re:lots of fraud around asbestos (2, Informative)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801316)

Yeah but as costly as lawyers are, they are still only 1/100th as costly as the US Congress or State Legislators that are writing the laws. It's the reason why Thomas Jefferson quit his law career and moved into politics - he realized real change can only come from the top, by writing the laws himself, and ignoring those who would try to corrupt the system

Distraction (3, Insightful)

AnonymousClown (1788472) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801056)

Well, I guess the CA legislature needs some distraction from their complete and utter incompetence and stupidity with regards to the budget, spending, and tax revenue for their state.

this is why we need a part time legislature (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32801058)

The people who run California are doing a terrible job. The 2010 budget is 20.7 billion dollars in debt. If we returned to a part-time legislator then they wouldn't have enough time to come up with crazy ideas like this. Unfortunately the California Part-Time Legislature Initiative (09-0031) will not be on the November 2, 2010 state ballot. The petition drive deadline for the measure was March 29, and organizers did not turn in signatures by that date. You can find out more information on how we can pass this in 2011 at http://www.reformcal.com/ [reformcal.com]

Re:this is why we need a part time legislature (2, Insightful)

couchslug (175151) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801350)

"The people who run California are doing a terrible job."

The public of California are doing a terrible job. The price of freedom is vigilance.

Inaction is consent to incompetence, tyranny, and incompetent tyranny.

Wait... (3, Insightful)

shakezula (842399) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801094)

...is this really a matter of pressing urgency in California? Wouldn't working towards plugging the state budget gap be a better use of the CA Legislation's time?

Trial lawyers fund the Democrat party (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32801096)

Just keep voting that way and you'll get more of the same.

Re:Trial lawyers fund the Democrat party (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32801818)

Well, at least it's better than the pedophile preachers and "Gummint hands off my Medicare!" teabagger nutcases that make up the Republican party.

political retardation. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32801102)

Just another nail in the coffin of intelligence, just goes to show how the politicians are getting dumber every year. I feel sorry for Californians that have to pay taxes to support such idiots and their retarded bills.

Would this qualify as 'fiddling whilst Rome burns? (1)

johnsjs (471712) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801122)

Surely there are more important issues.

The minor one of what to do about the imminent bankruptcy of the US's largest single state economy, and the worlds 8th largest economy springs to mind, but maybe this is more critical.

Actually, translucent, green, are we sure this isn't a blatant ad to invite Superman to give up his Arctic home, and move to the Golden State? That would definitely bring in tourists, and that could solve the budget crisis. Brilliant thinking there....

In most other states... (1)

jbarr (2233) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801158)

...Paper still covers Rock.

I guess ... (1)

PPH (736903) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801196)

... they could always make it crack.

How about Pyrite... (5, Insightful)

willwinter (200040) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801236)

Fools Gold seems appropriate for California these days.

Re:How about Pyrite... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32801694)

If yer dun laik it yer can GIT OUT.

I lived in California for 25 years (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32801242)

To anyone wondering why the state is in so much financial trouble perhaps this story will explain why. Most state legislatures have their heads up their own asses. In California they can see daylight and teeth.

In other news: (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32801272)

In other related news, Sarah Palin and her army of professional teabaggers demanded an alternative bill be considered that would redesignate asbestos as a childhood nutrient.

Re:In other news: (1)

Beyond_GoodandEvil (769135) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801446)

In other related news, Sarah Palin and her army of professional teabaggers demanded an alternative bill be considered that would redesignate asbestos as a childhood nutrient.
Come on Keith, just sign for a damn nick name and be done with it. Then you can post about it on twitter.

Because (1)

sv_libertarian (1317837) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801280)

They totally aren't going bankrupt over there. You'd think that they would have a lot more important things to do than some absurd PC feely good weirdo ass bill that makes no sense and does nothing for the progress of the state. BUT they can now say they have made things sound so much happier and better now that there is no chance of Kaliforniastan being associated with a rock that is associated with asbestos. Idiots. This is the danger of PC thought run amok.

This last session here in Washington State, some idiot tried to pass a bill that would change the words "At risk children" in all laws, state documents, etc... to "Children at Hope". She even wrote pleading editorials on the subject. All this while we were facing a huge (and still are) budge deficit, declining revenue, and all the other associated evils of the recession. But do these kinds of idiots get voted out? Oh no. The wrong lizard might win instead.

Re:Because (1)

willwinter (200040) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801442)

I guess "Children at Hope" means "Children at Risk" or "Children in Trouble" or "Children in Danger" ?

So, to them "Hope" means Risk, Trouble or Danger. I think I understand their position on a lot more things now.

In case there was any doubt (1)

int69h (60728) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801288)

California is crazy. People are fond of making fun of places like Arkansas, Alabama, and Mississippi, but at least they don't spend their time passing stupid crap like this into law.

Re:In case there was any doubt (2, Funny)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801714)

...at least they don't spend their time passing stupid crap like this into law.

Oh yeah? [dumblaws.com]

Highlights:
Bear wrestling matches are prohibited.
Incestuous marriages are legal.
Boogers may not be flicked into the wind.

Well, OK, I sort of agree with that last one.

Which leaves one question: (3, Interesting)

lennier1 (264730) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801298)

Who exactly was drunk enough to come up with the idea of a state rock in the first place?

MOD PARENT UP (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32801588)

Took the words right out of my mouth. According to Wikipedia, the following state insignia exist: amphibian, beverage, bird, butterfly, color, crustacean, dance, dinosaur, fish, flag, flower, food, fossil, grass, insect, instrument, license plate, mammal, mineral, motto, nickname, poem, poet laureate, reptile, route marker, seal, shell, ship, slogan, soil, song, sport, tartan, toy and tree.

OK, I can understand flag, license plate, motto, route marker and seal. I can understand the nickname (although why it's apparently official is beyond me). I probably could understand the slogan if I knew how it differs from a motto.

But the rest? I mean... grass? Tartan? Crustacean? I'm not from the USA, so can somebody explain to me what the point of these is?

Re:MOD PARENT UP (1)

GrumblyStuff (870046) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801864)

No, we can't really explain it any better.

I assume it's just some official marketing trick and/or environmental plea (won't someone PLEASE think of the state mammal?!).

I don't understand having a motto either. I don't even know what my state's motto is.

Ok, I looked up a few state mottos.

Utah: Industry
Maryland: Manly deeds womanly words (Fatti maschil, Parole femine)
Colorado: Nothing without the Deity (Nil sine Numine)
New Jersey: Liberty and Prosperity
Montana: Gold and Silver (Oro y Plata)

Here's the complete list: http://www.statesymbolsusa.org/Lists/state_mottos.html [statesymbolsusa.org]

And, seriously, that is Utah's motto.

Too MUCH TIME on their hands! (1)

markw365 (185614) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801318)

You sometimes wonder if this should be a part time gig for these guys. :( Yea!, my tax dollars at work. :(

Dumb As , er, ah, Rocks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32801384)

Incredible that folks can make an issue out of absolutely nothing and get pumped up by the media for it. Obviously, the 21st century interpretation of "Pet Rock" (trademark belongs to someone somewhere) involves inert matter and lawyers (or is that another type of inert matter).

news flash (1)

Flector (1702640) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801386)

California has a state rock and people are concerned about it.

I think it's rather appropriate. (1)

Reilaos (1544173) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801462)

After all, everything in California causes cancer.

Californian legislators lead by example... (1)

NotQuiteReal (608241) | more than 4 years ago | (#32801752)

... the example of what happens when you don't have any meaningful requirements to be a voter.
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