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Survey Says To UK — Repeal Laws of Thermodynamics

kdawson posted more than 4 years ago | from the einstein-is-next-up-against-the-wall dept.

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mostxlnt writes "As we noted, the new Tory UK government has launched a website asking its subjects which laws they'd most like repealed. There are proposals up for repeal of the Laws of Thermodynamics: Second, Third, and all (discussion thread on this one closed by a moderator). One comment on the Third [now apparently deleted] elucidated: 'Without the Third Law of Thermodynamics, it would be possible to build machines that would last forever and provide an endless source of cheap energy. thus solving both potential crises in energy supply as well as solving the greenhouse gas problem in one step... simples... eh?'"

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When you open up the floodgates... (2, Insightful)

sortius_nod (1080919) | more than 4 years ago | (#32806840)

idiots pour through.

Re:When you open up the floodgates... (4, Insightful)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 4 years ago | (#32806870)

Not idiots, just trolls who want a few lulz.

Re:When you open up the floodgates... (0, Troll)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807708)

Not idiots, just trolls who want a few lulz.

Well, sauce for the goose.

eriously, do you believe that the site is anything other than a way to get post hoc justification for the handful of insignificant repeals that they've already decided on (doubtless while drafting even more repressive legislation to replace them with)? We might as well use it to have a laugh, since that's all the ConDems will be using it for anyway. Come on, let's get our money's worth.

Re:When you open up the floodgates... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32807866)

I bet you that guy who wanted to repeal the 3rd law of thermodynamics is an avid slashdot reader!

Re:When you open up the floodgates... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32806956)

There's really only one thing to say about this.

  Successful troll is successful. [wordpress.com]

Re:When you open up the floodgates... (5, Funny)

fractoid (1076465) | more than 4 years ago | (#32806996)

Parent is a restatement of the second law of Thermodynamics. Idiots flow from areas with fewer idiots to areas with more idiots, but it takes work to reverse the flow and decrease the idiot density of one (low-density) area while increasing the idiot density of another, higher-idiot-density area.

Re:When you open up the floodgates... (5, Interesting)

w0mprat (1317953) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807192)

Idiots flow from areas with fewer idiots to areas with more idiots, but it takes work to reverse the flow and decrease the idiot density of one (low-density) area while increasing the idiot density of another, higher-idiot-density area.

Now demonstrated to be false since the discovery of Quantum Bogodynamics, back in the early days of IT. http://wikibin.org/articles/quantum-bogodynamics.html [wikibin.org] Idiots flow from idiot-dense areas to low idiot density - non-idiots must work hard to either keep idiots out. This force is transmitted by an Idiot giving up a particle of Bogon which is absorbed by a non-idiot. Thus manifesting as an attractive force.

This is why the most beautifully engineered and brilliant machines will fail in the most spectacular way when the strongest bogon emitters are invariably attracted to them. This is why Lamborghinis seem to spontanously catch on fire but that old Toyota Corolla you can't can't kill.

Re:When you open up the floodgates... (1)

fractoid (1076465) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807266)

Aw bugger, I got the first bit the wrong way round. Oh well, it was only a simple sign error... and the second bit, I hope, made it clear what I meant. :P

Re:When you open up the floodgates... (4, Funny)

CAIMLAS (41445) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807204)

Did parent and GP just describe the influx of people from high-replacement rural areas to low-replacement urban areas, or did I miss something?

Re:When you open up the floodgates... (2, Insightful)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807372)

Fox News has prior art. You're gonna get sued.

Re:When you open up the floodgates... (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807852)

But all it would take to reduce the idiot flux in a particular place (say my office) would be to place an idiot detecting demon at the front door. When an idiot approaches the demon closes the door. When a non-idiot approaches the demon opens the door.

Now to explain this to management...

Re:When you open up the floodgates... (2, Funny)

fractoid (1076465) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807878)

The problem is that the idiot-detecting demon at the front door (let's call him Maxwell) will, sadly, become more stupid with each idiot he allows to walk outward, and each idiot he refuses entry. Ultimately, Maxwell will be enough of an idiot that he will fail to function.

...don't you hate it when you take an analogy way too far and still, somehow, it holds?

Re:When you open up the floodgates... (1)

Ihmhi (1206036) | more than 4 years ago | (#32808052)

I'd love to visit Maxwell's house. I bet he has good coffee.

Re:When you open up the floodgates... (1)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 4 years ago | (#32808210)

Nahhh. The idiot burns his damned coffee. If you can find the Folger's demon, he has pretty decent coffee. To get better coffee, you have to get fresh ground and freshly roasted beans. But, you probably knew that already . . .

Re:When you open up the floodgates... (1)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | more than 4 years ago | (#32808016)

I call the reversal of the process Idiostmotic Pressure.

Re:When you open up the floodgates... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32807004)

idiots

I actually think this is quite funny and clever. Shows a bit of lateral thinking here in the broader definition of "laws" to bring up laws of physics.

Re:When you open up the floodgates... (2, Funny)

Anne Thwacks (531696) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807546)

Nonsense - feminists have been campaigning against the laws of Thermodynamics for years: they are sexist, as they favour men, who can understand such complex issues, while women only want to worry their pretty heads about perfume "because they are worth it"

Re:When you open up the floodgates... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32807068)

idiots pour through.

Whereas most smart people in Britain would rather repeal the law that Americans don't get British sarcasm and wit, but sadly that also seems to be an unchangeable law of nature...

Looking for a genius or an Ig? (4, Funny)

AliasMarlowe (1042386) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807230)

When you are caught break a regular law (speeding, larceny, etc.), you can expect to be punished with a fine or worse.

If you manage to break any of the Laws of Thermodynamics, you can expect to be lauded, copied, co-author a stream of high-impact papers, get offered some cushy sinecures, and eventually receive a Nobel prize.

The far likelier outcome, of course, is to be given an Ignobel prize, for a fruitless and ill-conceived waste of effort. I suspect the UK government can look forward to at least an honorable mention at the next Ig award ceremonies.

Re:Looking for a genius or an Ig? (1)

fractoid (1076465) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807586)

"Lisa! In this house we OBEY the laws of thermodynamics!" - Homer Simpson

Is it April 1st again? (1)

julian-lam (1797678) | more than 4 years ago | (#32806844)

Did I miss the memo? Is it April 1st again?

First Law? (1)

kai_hiwatari (1642285) | more than 4 years ago | (#32806848)

What about the first law?

Re:First Law? (5, Funny)

jd (1658) | more than 4 years ago | (#32806888)

These aren't complete idiots. Everyone knows the First Law is what prevents robots doing harm to humans.

Re:First Law? (1)

Adambomb (118938) | more than 4 years ago | (#32806970)

I don't even know why the scientists keep making them.

Old Glory Robot Insurance; For when the metal one come for YOU!

Re:First Law? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32807250)

And the fourth stops them harming employees of OCP.

Re:First Law? (5, Funny)

GuerillaRadio (818889) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807282)

The first law of Thermodynamics is that YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT THERMODYNAMICS!

Re:First Law? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32807938)

<not so funny response redacted thanks to the Turing word>

Turing word: soviet*
In a sentence: In Soviet Russia First Law of Thermodynamics talks about you!

*Honestly. I shit you not.

Re:First Law? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32808086)

The first law of thermodynamics is that you never mention the fine print about it not being valid on molecule level and below.

4chan threw the vote (3, Insightful)

Luke has no name (1423139) | more than 4 years ago | (#32806862)

No other way.

Brilliant (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32806872)

Government actually uses the internet for something potentially beneficial, and people troll it. I'm surprised there isn't anything related to lazers, mudkips, or Pedobear on there.

Re:Brilliant (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32806882)

Well what the hell did you expect? The site is little more than theater - nobody in power is going to take it seriously one way or the other, so why not have a little fun with it?

Re:Brilliant (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32806958)

I dont know, look at Di hydrogen Monoxide...nearly got banned in California.

Re:Brilliant (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32806992)

nearly got banned in California.

To be fair, that describes half the chemical compounds in existence.

Re:Brilliant (1)

Aeternitas827 (1256210) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807010)

It's sad that I had to think this one through before I got it.

I'm not, by any means, Hawking or Einstein, but I'm not Larry the Cable Guy either (I fall somewhere toward the middle of the bell curve); no wonder it almost got banned.

Re:Brilliant (3, Insightful)

JackieBrown (987087) | more than 4 years ago | (#32808032)

So did I the first time I heard it. I knew there was a trick since the person had a giant idiot grin on his face while he cited the number of fatalities caused buy it.

This is one of those tricks that idiots hear and like to repeat because it make them think they are looking clever. Have you ever know someone who memorized the answers to one or two incredibility difficult equations and kept spouting it out? My favorite are people who run their emails through a thesaurus so they can use bigger words even when they do not know what those new words mean.

I think that we can all agree that we should work together.

becomes

I deliberate that we container all enunciate that we should vocation simultaneously.

How will you know? (5, Insightful)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807126)

Well what the hell did you expect? The site is little more than theater

It is because people like you are making it one.

What if it's real? Why try to kill something that might actually help before it has a chance to show if it's theater or not?

Why is it so hard to believe that a group being voted in on a wave of people finding the government unreasonable, might in fact want to git rid of some of the more egregious laws that have sprung up? It seems pretty obvious if you get rid of very unpopular laws you (and your group) are going to win more elections. So the thought that it's theater did not occur to me, if for no other reason than politician self-interest - and do you really want to bet against THAT?

Re:How will you know? (3, Insightful)

Miseph (979059) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807296)

Being theater is not mutually exclusive to being taken seriously. Just because they couldn't really care less, doesn't mean they are somehow above throwing the people a meaningless and symbolic bone to appease them. Never forget: good theater keeps the lights on and the players employed.

Re:How will you know? (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32807622)

Probably after seeing examples of similar legitimate tries in the US being completely ignored and even laughed at by the politicians who set it up. When Obama had the website set up to get people's opinions on things, what they wanted repealed, etc, the top issue was legalization of marijuana. When faced with responding to that issue, he made a dumb joke about potheads and moved on.

I voted for Obama and thought he would do a good job (as far as presidents go...) but he's turned out to be another terrible politician. All I can say is at least he's better than Bush. I hope I'm still able to say that by the end of his term.

Re:How will you know? (2, Insightful)

excelsior_gr (969383) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807768)

Because political parties are not even doing the things they promised *before* the elections. Should't they at least *try* to implement their political portfolios before they start pondering what their next move should be? In my opinion, this is just a distraction from their inneficiency to do what they promised, or at least something meaningfull. The fact that the discussion evolved into a Monty Python sketch shows that they cannot fool people any more with their rubbish. People are not taking them seriously any more.

Re:How will you know? (1)

digitig (1056110) | more than 4 years ago | (#32808058)

Because political parties are not even doing the things they promised *before* the elections. Should't they at least *try* to implement their political portfolios before they start pondering what their next move should be?

This was in the LibDem "portfolio" -- their manifesto promised "we will introduce a Freedom Bill to restore the civil liberties that are so precious to the British character", and this is a step towards that. I think we need to take your "political parties are not even doing the things they promised *before* the elections" with a pinch of salt, given that you've just shown that you don't actually know what they promised.

Re:How will you know? (1)

Tim C (15259) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807796)

Not only that, but whatever government won the election was going to have an extremely tough time staying in power at the next one; the measures necessary to cut our country's deficit are unlikely to win many votes.

Re:How will you know? (3, Insightful)

FuckingNickName (1362625) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807890)

Well, I could give you mounds of evidence, but here's what stands out:

Clegg, the overt organiser of this circus, has sold out his Party to a power shak^Hring agreement, abandoning pretty much every core platform on which they established their vote. More insidiously, he's accepting arrangements which make it look like the LDs are pushing for their manifesto when in fact they're doing precisely the opposite. For example, his Party has steadfastly put voting reform to Proportional Representation at the top of the political agenda for decades, but now he is proposing the Alternative Voting method - a "compromise" system even less Proportional than FPTP which will inevitably be voted against in any referendum, ensuring the status quo.

The LDs have always been the "Party who cares"[tm], i.e. proposes more than just slight tweaks, and they've always been laughed at because, "They'd never really do that and can only say that because they'll never get into power." Well, now they do have a certain degree of power. And they're doing none of what they said. Instead, as just illustrated, their method will be to listen, propose a "compromise" which no-one wants at all, then wait until it's not imposed and nothing changes at all. The exceptions will be where laws were already going to be tweaked, in which case this site will be used as an excuse (digital economy, personal welfare).

tl;dr We are living in a representative democracy, not a direct democracy. There is neither the framework, education, means nor (most importantly) interest to listen directly to the people. Even referendums are barely an exception as they're worded precisely by the government and (hi, EU!) sometimes just repeated until the population is worn down and the right answer is obtained.

The showed this in Scotland (1)

ed (79221) | more than 4 years ago | (#32808044)

The LDs supported Labour in the Scottish parliament and abandonded most of their principles to do so.

THey didn't support the SNP because the SNP want a referendum on Independence, despite havign this principle of referenda and indeed havign a history of Home Rule

IT is what they do

Re:How will you know? (1, Troll)

jasonq (244142) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807930)

Why is it so hard to believe that a group being voted in

They weren't voted in!

Re:Brilliant (1)

roke_tm (208144) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807856)

Hmm, I always disliked this "Speed Limit" of the Light. I wonder if they can repeal that too? I want warp speed!

Re:Brilliant (3, Informative)

jd (1658) | more than 4 years ago | (#32806904)

I suspect that nobody is really that bothered by laws requiring those under 16 to practice with the longbow or cabs to carry bails of hay. I also seriously doubt that many people even know that many laws, let alone which ones are absurd.

Re:Brilliant (1)

Shimbo (100005) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807824)

I suspect that nobody is really that bothered by laws requiring those under 16 to practice with the longbow or cabs to carry bails of hay.

Generally, these stories are apocryphal, and were either never true or long ago repealed.

This is a great way to spend your time (0, Flamebait)

pspahn (1175617) | more than 4 years ago | (#32806874)

I can't think of anything better for the "subjects" of the UK to aim their efforts toward. The world needs a new court jester.

Newsbiscuit, anyone? (4, Informative)

boundary (1226600) | more than 4 years ago | (#32806886)

I think it's happening because of this article on a British clone of The Onion, called NewsBiscuit... http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2010/07/05/nick-clegg-to-repeal-second-law-of-thermodynamics/ [newsbiscuit.com]

Re:Newsbiscuit, anyone? (3, Funny)

evilandi (2800) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807730)

Boundary> http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2010/07/05/nick-clegg-to-repeal-second-law-of-thermodynamics/ [newsbiscuit.com]

The really clever bit being that Professor Brian Cox [wikipedia.org] really is a top-ranking physics professor, who was indeed the keyboardist for the band D:Ream who did have a UK number one hit "Things can only get better [wikipedia.org] " that was used as the election theme tune for the previous government. Which puts the satire way above The Onion. You'd have thought that a CERN scientist wouldn't have penned such an inaccurate song, although "Things will get more and more random" probably wouldn't have achieved the same chart success.

Re:Newsbiscuit, anyone? (4, Funny)

imakemusic (1164993) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807854)

You'd have thought that a CERN scientist wouldn't have penned such an inaccurate song, although "Things will get more and more random" probably wouldn't have achieved the same chart success.

That depends on your stance on randomness. He's obviously in favour of it.

Re:Newsbiscuit, anyone? (2, Funny)

Inda (580031) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807820)

http://newsarse.com/ is a British sporting version. Good for a giggle.

Foolish (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32806902)

After the years of authoritarianism, I'm sure this helpful stunt will do really well to encourage future attempts at openness in the UK government.

Re:Foolish (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32806938)

You know, if you squint really, really hard, that rolled up newspaper looks an awful lot like an olive branch. The thing is, they both smart when you're being whacked with 'em.

Perfect laws? (1)

EricX2 (670266) | more than 4 years ago | (#32806920)

If the citizens have a chance to repeal their laws and this is what they come up with, they must be perfect... right?

If they ever gave me a chance to do that in the US I sure wouldn't waste it on crap like that. But since it's idiot day apparently, Law of Gravity gets my vote.

Re:Perfect laws? (2, Funny)

Aeternitas827 (1256210) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807044)

Gravity, that Law that keeps me form drifting out into space and into the sun?

Wait, if Gravity were gone, that wouldn't happen, because the sun couldn't pull me either.

What the hell would happen?

Re:Perfect laws? (1)

Rakshasa Taisab (244699) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807218)

Ever been on a carrousel?

Re:Perfect laws? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32807490)

Once. I mentioned to my Dad how neat the centrifugal force was. Then he pushed me off.

Re:Perfect laws? (1)

Aeternitas827 (1256210) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807602)

Let's expand the idea...rotation, that would create force based on rotation, and where there's no external influence on me, presumably I would remain attached to the ground. However, when such force is exerted that would exceed the centripetal force of the Earth's rotation, I would fly free in whichever direction...

I think you just might have given an answer to a completely sarcastic question. And maybe made me realize why the law of gravity might exist in the first place...not sure, beer by this point has made my brain a bit fuzzy.

Re:Perfect laws? (1)

ultranova (717540) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807966)

The Earth would explode, since nothing would counteract its internal pressure anymore. So would Sun, Moon, and any other body kept together by gravity. Earth's explosion would likely kill you, but if it by some miracle failed to do so, the lack of breathable air - since that too is lost as soon as gravity fails - would, and then the expanding shockwave from Sun's explosion would vaporize your bloated remains, assuming that the increased radiation due to its core shining through dispersing external parts wouldn't.

Destructive and just plain stupid legislation that can't be enforced and can't be defended on anything but purely ideological grounds - just the kind that's been all rage lately (right-wingers, I'm looking at you).

Re:Perfect laws? (2, Insightful)

Third Position (1725934) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807100)

The reason this is largely being treated as a joke by the British people is that most of the unpopular laws are coming from Brussels, not London. There isn't much the British government can do about EU directives, besides withdraw from the EU. And that's not on the table.

Re:Perfect laws? (3, Funny)

value_added (719364) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807618)

The reason this is largely being treated as a joke by the British people is that most of the unpopular laws are coming from Brussels, not London.

I found another online survey the results of which reflects similar sentiments.

What should we call those [shakes fist in air] people in Brussels?

5. Let's not call them anything. Let's ignore them.
4. Belgians. Nothing is more derogatory.
3. The Sprouts.
2. The Phlegms.
1. Miserable Fat Belgian Bastards.

Re:Perfect laws? (1)

the_womble (580291) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807734)

Yes, we need better government at the federal level (to put in in American terms), and the only way we will get that is by getting better constitutional arrangements, which will only happen if the EU actually gets a proper constitution - but that will reduce the power of state governments even further.

Re:Perfect laws? (1)

digitig (1056110) | more than 4 years ago | (#32808078)

The reason this is largely being treated as a joke by the British people is that most of the unpopular laws are coming from Brussels, not London. There isn't much the British government can do about EU directives, besides withdraw from the EU. And that's not on the table.

Well, that's what the insular British press says. Funny thing is, the rest of the EU tends not to have the really nasty laws. You'd think that they would if Brussels were imposing them on the whole EU, wouldn't you?

Reminds me of my favorite April Fools (4, Funny)

n2rjt (88804) | more than 4 years ago | (#32806962)

I remember a news article that circulated around the communications company where I worked, on some April 1st, saying that Shannon's Law had been repealed, and the company was ready to release a new product offering high speed Internet access over HF on a 2.8 kHz channel. So, I'd vote for Shannon's Law to be repealed.

Re:Reminds me of my favorite April Fools (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32807976)

I can't believe they don't want Murphy's law repealed.

Probably should have started... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32807106)

....by repealing Murphy's Law.

"Tory" government!? (4, Insightful)

91degrees (207121) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807110)

Here was I thinking we had a coalition of Tory and Libs.

Re:"Tory" government!? (5, Funny)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807692)

Here was I thinking we had a coalition of Tory and Libs.

Yup, the Libs think that too. Aren't they just adorable?

Re:"Tory" government!? (1)

iserlohn (49556) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807818)

right.. go on.. one small step astray and off to another election..

Round PI off to 3.00 for convenience (3, Funny)

aauu (46157) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807112)

We need simple easy to remember mathmatical and physical constants. Alabama failed to pass this modification to the universe. Washington could do much better.

Repealing the Second Law (4, Insightful)

Angst Badger (8636) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807124)

I actually thought about this once, not that I have any illusions about being able to do it; it was just a Gedankenexperiment. My conclusion was that if the Second Law was eliminated, the odds are good that somewhere in the universe some process would enter a feedback loop, producing ever more energy at an ever accelerating rate, and the first we'd know about it would be when the shock wave washed over us at a substantial fraction of the speed of light.

The universe as it stands may be a raw deal, but most imaginable tweaks to the laws of physics make it even worse.

Re:Repealing the Second Law (1)

Brett Buck (811747) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807170)

Precisely. Entropy provides the damping necessary to maintain a stable system.

Re:Repealing the Second Law (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32807314)

You are thinking of the First Law which deals with the conservation of energy. The Second Law repeal would mean that you can have 100% efficient processes (perpetual motion machines or machines that can convert all of the heat of an object to useful energy). It doesn't mean that infinite energy in the Universe would occur.

Re:Repealing the Second Law (3, Insightful)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807410)

The universe as it stands may be a raw deal, but most imaginable tweaks to the laws of physics make it even worse.

The Winston Churchill rule: This is the worse universe, except for all others.

Re:Repealing the Second Law (1)

martin-boundary (547041) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807992)

I prefer the Gottfried Leibniz rule: this is the best universe, among all the others.

Re:Repealing the Second Law (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32807582)

Are you talking about the big bang?? Because it sounds a lot like it.

Mod parent up! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32808198)

Mod parent up! Spot on. We – humanity, Earth, the Solar System, the Milky Way – are a wave of energy from the Big Bang. The laws of thermodynamics were created at that same moment, as was time itself, and seem to have been working quite well since.

Re:Repealing the Second Law (2, Insightful)

mrthoughtful (466814) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807942)

Well actually, the British Empire is no more, so the effects of UK legislation would be limited to it's borders.
I'm pretty sure that biological processes require 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, so life in the UK would cease, but all of UK neighbours would benefit from the energy leakage of from (possibly) the only non-singularity free of the second law.

Re:Repealing the Second Law (1)

selven (1556643) | more than 4 years ago | (#32808194)

Repealing the second law of thermodynamics doesn't repeal conservation of energy. If we can, I'd say why not - with the law intact you can't live forever.

Greens (1, Redundant)

CAIMLAS (41445) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807194)

And thus, clearly demonstrating, the general mindset and intellectual fortitude of those who wildly brandish the new Green technologies.

It doesn't matter if carbon offset credits are a Ponzi scheme, that alternative fuels and their vehicles are more ecologically destructive than similarly purposed traditional ICE vehicles, that there are no large-scale deployment ready technologies to augment the power grid. As long as we're passing laws which have a Green statement or impose some draconian restrictions on the status quo, we're going in the right direction!

Or, in this case, passing laws repealing the laws of physics. Awesome, just awesome.

At this rate, I have little hope for the West surviving another generation. Either we'll move towards a totalitarian regime with the scientists and politicians dictating to the rest of us, or we'll just completely devolve into civil war (shortly before the anarchy, but possibly not before being overrun from the outside).

Re:Greens (4, Informative)

igb (28052) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807216)

And they that sarcasm doesn't travel well.

In case it wasn't entirely obvious, these are jokes. The whole process is a farce, so people are making jokes. I know, I know, I shouldn't have to say.

Re:Greens (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32807576)

This stuff is great. The fact that the submitter doesn't seem to understand that we've having fun with what should be a very serious issue makes me feel glad I live in the UK. What should be pretty serious is given a gentle ribbing by the good british public, as it should. I'd be worried if it wasn't.

To truly get into the spirit of things check out the submission for repealing of Sod's Law

Re:Greens (1)

cwnannwn (1354363) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807868)

Oh yeah, it's all fun and games until someone in the legislature thinks that it actually IS a good idea. :)

Wrong category (0, Offtopic)

oldhack (1037484) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807220)

This belongs in the idle section, and the first respectable one I've seen at that, unlike most of the crap samzenpus dredges up.

Correction (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32807232)

the new Tory UK government has

It's not a Tory government, it's a coalition government.

Damn it Kdawson (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32807278)

First you make a sensationalist "No taking pictures of oil booms" and now this? We (generally) go to /. because we hate the rest of the news world. Please go start a blog or something where nobody has to read your crap.

Another one: Repeal the British North America Act (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32807284)

http://yourfreedom.hmg.gov.uk/restoring-civil-liberties/repeal-the-british-north-america-act-1867

Just trolls (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32807288)

It's a joke, amazed that you guys think these submissions are from idiots that believe this is possible. It's a British site, we enjoy taking the piss out of government crap.

Re:Just trolls (4, Informative)

Joce640k (829181) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807800)

Exactly. We don't believe for a minute they're going to repeal any laws worth repealing so let's just mock them.

For more examples see the petitions site: http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/ [number10.gov.uk]

If we don't repeal this dangerous law... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32807300)

Then chaos will result.

when you cannot travel faster than the speed ... (1)

allo (1728082) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807380)

when you cannot travel faster than the speed of light, just increase the speed of light
-- Scientists from Futurama

Obligatory XKCD... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32807408)

Gotcha. It's actually an obligatory Simpsons [youtube.com] .

I'm sure I violated something there.

what about... (4, Funny)

perryizgr8 (1370173) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807474)

...rule 34?
is it a law?

Use it to repeal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32807484)

ACTA preemptively
Encryption Disclosure (RIPA part 3, yes the law that will jail you for literally just forgetting a key for a test truecrypt install with no data)

Instead of dicking about.

How is this news? (3, Insightful)

deblau (68023) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807610)

I mean really, it's not even tagged "Funny". Probably because people trolling what appears to be a legitimate attempt by an oppressive government to actually be, you know, less oppressive, really isn't funny to begin with.

Same goes for the previous "story", whose title is not just grossly misleading, but plain wrong. Curiously, these two stories have the same editor. And yes, I'm willing to risk my karma to point this out.

Thermodynamics - Glasgow Style (1)

Grumpinuts (1272216) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807680)

Regardless of whether the laws of thermodynamics are repealed in the UK, here in Glasgow they will always be respected. See below for an example of how schools in Glasgow teach the subject.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaeLh-h94P0 [youtube.com]

2nd law of thermodynamics (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32807766)

I love the 2nd law of thermodynamics, because it categorically rules out any possibility of evolution, and offers strong support towards creation (or other high-energy events).

Reduce disorder by repealing third law... (1)

w0mprat (1317953) | more than 4 years ago | (#32807924)

... politicians had it wrong, reduce law to increase order.

Afraid you'll have to talk to the Pope for that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32808076)

Afraid you'll have to talk to the Pope for that since it isn't the UK Government who passed the laws of thermodynamics. God did. So I suggest you talk to the Pope and ask him.

Just in case that isn't God's representative, you should ask the same of all the heads of all known religions.

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