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Blizzard To Require Real First and Last Names For Official Forums

Soulskill posted about 4 years ago | from the guess-that's-one-way-to-get-rid-of-trolls dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Recently, Blizzard Entertainment implemented a Real ID feature for some of its current games and all of its future Battle.net-based games. Today, Blizzard announced that it intends to require usage of the real names of Battle.net posters for its StarCraft II forums before release, and for its World of Warcraft forums shortly before the release of World of Warcraft: Cataclysm. From the announcement: 'The first and most significant change is that in the near future, anyone posting or replying to a post on official Blizzard forums will be doing so using their Real ID — that is, their real-life first and last name — with the option to also display the name of their primary in-game character alongside it. These changes will go into effect on all StarCraft II forums with the launch of the new community site prior to the July 27 release of the game, with the World of Warcraft site and forums following suit near the launch of Cataclysm. Certain classic forums, including the classic Battle.net forums, will remain unchanged.'"

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trying to imagine... (-1, Troll)

Hadlock (143607) | about 4 years ago | (#32815162)

Trying to imagine how kdawson would put a negative, sensationalist spin on this

Re:trying to imagine... (3, Insightful)

qoncept (599709) | about 4 years ago | (#32815192)

Do you need some help? Everyone will know your real name.

Re:trying to imagine... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32815274)

Now you bastards will know how it feels

- Johnathan Doe

How does this work for those under 13? (4, Funny)

ImNotAtWork (1375933) | about 4 years ago | (#32815174)

I'm assuming it's under the parents name for the account which should be a pleasant conversation at work when your boss asks you why you are trolling the warlock forum?

Re:How does this work for those under 13? (3, Interesting)

poetmatt (793785) | about 4 years ago | (#32815322)

Just think - now you can find your favorite pornstar wow-players even easier!

Re:How does this work for those under 13? (1, Funny)

localman57 (1340533) | about 4 years ago | (#32815336)

What? I don't know anything about Trolls or Warlocks. Oh, wait. Is this from that movie with DumbleDoor and that pirate guy-not Johhny Depp but the other one-and the big battle scenes?

Re:How does this work for those under 13? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32815518)

shit man, i think you just went full retard.

Re:How does this work for those under 13? (4, Funny)

NecroPuppy (222648) | about 4 years ago | (#32815360)

"Well, Bob, it's like this. Everyone in HR is playing Alliance, and trying to convince Blizzard that Locks are overpowered. You can't expect me to let them get away with that, now can you?"

Re:How does this work for those under 13? (4, Funny)

Chris Burke (6130) | about 4 years ago | (#32815366)

I'm assuming it's under the parents name for the account which should be a pleasant conversation at work when your boss asks you why you are trolling the warlock forum?

Already laying the groundwork for the "it was my 13-year-old" excuse, I see. ;)

Re:How does this work for those under 13? (5, Informative)

UDGags (756537) | about 4 years ago | (#32815508)

From the Real ID FAQ Will parents be able to control their child’s access to posting on the forums? Yes. When this change to the forums goes live, parents will be able to decide whether to allow their child to post on official Blizzard forums that use Real ID through Battle.net Parental Controls.

Re:How does this work for those under 13? (4, Funny)

Chris Mattern (191822) | about 4 years ago | (#32815532)

why you are trolling the warlock forum?

You can't fool me. Trolls can't be warlocks!

Re:How does this work for those under 13? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32815742)

why you are trolling the warlock forum?

You can't fool me. Trolls can't be warlocks!

yet...*grins*

Re:How does this work for those under 13? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32815642)

Nope. It posts your childs name.

And blizz is now blocking name changes on battlenet

Hmm.... (4, Interesting)

Pojut (1027544) | about 4 years ago | (#32815184)

Real first and last name? Full, no initial? Not sure what I think about that one, Blizzard...

Re:Hmm.... (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32815374)

I know what to think of it.

It is a horrible, horrible idea.

You know that list of things every responsible parent teaches their children to never do on the internet?

One of those things is to tell someone your real name.

Blizzard is forcing them to in a way they are unlikely to notice first or are willing to do anyway because it is for all the new big games.

Blizzard is going to expose the identities of millions of people, including children and adolescents publicly on the internet. They can then be exploited by anyone, including the "wonderful" guys over at 4chan, and worse.

Re:Hmm.... (2, Insightful)

jandrese (485) | about 4 years ago | (#32815702)

My thought: Internet Detectives are going to have a field day with this. Got ganked by a Rogue last night? Search the forums for his character name, find his real name, figure out where he lives, and get him right back with harassing phone calls, pizzas, etc...

Now all we need is for 4Chan to implement the same policy.

Lawsuit Incoming! (5, Funny)

Nailer235 (1822054) | about 4 years ago | (#32815208)

Wonder how long it'll be until someone finally tracks down a troll (in real life) and loots their corpse

Jay and Silent Bob (5, Funny)

whisper_jeff (680366) | about 4 years ago | (#32815226)

Images of the ending of Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back come to mind ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjWFZPJZTxU [youtube.com] ).

And those images are happy, indeed. :)

Yeah.. (1, Interesting)

T-Bucket (823202) | about 4 years ago | (#32815228)

Yeah, I can't imagine how forcing minors to put their real first and last names on the internet could POSSIBLY backfire... Brilliant idea.

Re:Yeah.. (1)

Godai (104143) | about 4 years ago | (#32815728)

Actually, you have to enter your age to post on the forums, so if you're a minor you can only do so if you lie about your age. At that point, it's their own fault.

I actually like this trend... (4, Interesting)

GreyWolf3000 (468618) | about 4 years ago | (#32815244)

... with more and more people being forced to use their real names on the Internet, you'll see a lot less flaming, trolling, and defacing. People I believe will be less quick to turn a discussion into an argument and more interested in understanding one another.

However, I do not personally like the idea of my first and last name being made public everywhere, which is why I have generally shunned Facebook and would not use this feature even if I wanted to.

Re:I actually like this trend... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32815300)

Why do you need to use your real firstname and lastname on facebook?

Since you can't take away data from facebook after it's been posted, the best approach may be to pollute their database with fake information..

Re:I actually like this trend... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32815344)

you can just create a facebook account with a false or abriviated name and still enjoy having a facebook account. its usful at timeS!

Re:I actually like this trend... (5, Interesting)

selven (1556643) | about 4 years ago | (#32815346)

So you like other people not being anonymous, but you want yourself to still be anonymous? That kind of reminds me of this [theonion.com] .

I personally think internet anonymity is a good thing. It forces people to attack each other's arguments rather than resorting to ad hominems, and ensures an even playing field, since newbies' arguments are heard on the same level as those of our celebrities (at least in theory).

Re:I actually like this trend... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32815408)

It forces people to attack each other's arguments rather than resorting to ad hominems, and ensures an even playing field, since newbies' arguments are heard on the same level as those of our celebrities (at least in theory).

New to the internet, eh?

Re:I actually like this trend... (1, Funny)

selven (1556643) | about 4 years ago | (#32815606)

No, I'm a 3 year veteran of Slashdot, and a 2 year veteran of the World of Warcraft forums. In the WoW forums, where every post is linked to a character, people judge others' posts by the quality of their gear rather than just the quality of the posts. On Slashdot, this doesn't happen.

I know that the popular opinion of anonymity is that it just invites trolling, but I've had the opposite experience.

Re:I actually like this trend... (0)

Krahar (1655029) | about 4 years ago | (#32815572)

I personally think internet anonymity is a good thing. It forces people to attack each other's arguments rather than resorting to ad hominems,

That's not been my experience.

Re:I actually like this trend... (1, Funny)

Chris Mattern (191822) | about 4 years ago | (#32815588)

It forces people to attack each other's arguments rather than resorting to ad hominems,

You must be using a different internet than I am. Could you tell me how you get access to the one you're using? It sounds nice.

Re:I actually like this trend... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32815362)

You'll also see a lot more stalking, harassment, and real-world abuse of all kinds. This is a ridiculous decision and one that will probably lead to me finally cancelling my WoW account.

Re:I actually like this trend... (1)

Manip (656104) | about 4 years ago | (#32815382)

In addition to all that, World of Warcraft players will be completely unemployable so they will have even less reason to leave their parent's basement...

Re:I actually like this trend... (1)

phyrexianshaw.ca (1265320) | about 4 years ago | (#32815542)

What the hell are you talking about?

yeah, because all wow players are unemployed bums that sit at home. /sarcasm

I already publicly have my main on my /. account, and my boss get's a good laugh out of what I do in my spare time. never ONCE has it or should it ever affect your work.

Re:I actually like this trend... (4, Insightful)

Pluvius (734915) | about 4 years ago | (#32815398)

... with more and more people being forced to use their real names on the Internet, you'll see a lot less flaming, trolling, and defacing. People I believe will be less quick to turn a discussion into an argument and more interested in understanding one another.

However, I do not personally like the idea of my first and last name being made public everywhere, which is why I have generally shunned Facebook and would not use this feature even if I wanted to.

So in other words, chilling effects on free speech are a good idea, but only if they're placed on other people?

Rob

Re:I actually like this trend... (1)

noidentity (188756) | about 4 years ago | (#32815446)

you'll see a lot less flaming, trolling, and defacing. People I believe will be less quick to turn a discussion into an argument and more interested in understanding one another.

Yes, because trolls would never stoop to using fake "real" names.

Re:I actually like this trend... (1)

Captain Splendid (673276) | about 4 years ago | (#32815554)

Yes, because trolls would never stoop to using fake "real" names.

Well, they'll find it very difficult to do that unless they figure out a way to spoof the same name on their credit card.

Re:I actually like this trend... (5, Insightful)

BobMcD (601576) | about 4 years ago | (#32815670)

Yes, because trolls would never stoop to using fake "real" names.

Well, they'll find it very difficult to do that unless they figure out a way to spoof the same name on their credit card.

FYI, you can buy 'Game Time Cards' with cash at every big-box store in the United States.

Re:I actually like this trend... (3, Informative)

II Xion II (1420223) | about 4 years ago | (#32815476)

It's a horrible idea. Anyone with some basic Google searching skills can uncover a lot about people based on (presumably) their real name. For people such as myself with a name that is not so unique, it is not a huge issue. But for a lot of people who might have more uncommon names, such information can easily be used to find addresses, phone numbers, email addresses, social networking accounts, and other information. This is an identity theft and privacy nightmare. And given the ages and types of people who can play the game, I see it being very successfully exploited.

Re:I actually like this trend... (1)

Albatrosses (1712146) | about 4 years ago | (#32815688)

people such as myself with a name that is not so unique

Y'know, I can't say I've ever heard of anybody else named || Xion ||... maybe it's a regional thing ;)

Re:I actually like this trend... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32815522)

STFU! N00B! LOLOLOLOLOLO!

While I do agree I still dislike it in general (4, Interesting)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | about 4 years ago | (#32815534)

I mean I completely agree, that if you remove the anonymity you'll remove a lot of the asshole factor online. People are much bigger pricks when they don't think it can come back to bite them. So it would remove a lot of that.

However it would also discourage people form sharing thoughts as freely. If I had to use my real name on Slashdot, I wouldn't post nearly as much. I'd make sure to restrict it only to things I was comfortable with all current and future employers seeing. I wouldn't want to screw myself out of a job because I posted something that someone disagreed with.

As it stands though, a pseudonym allows me to do that. It isn't true anonymity, with a bit of sniffing around you could easily come up with who I really am. However it means that a simple search for my real name will not come up with any of this. That is enough to keep it form being a problem. Just removing the direct connection is all I need.

Over all, I think it is good to have things that way. I like to be able to freely share my thoughts online, and I'd like to think some people find it valuable (on Slashdot people seem to at least sometimes as I do get modded up). I wouldn't want to have to restrict some of those because of the worry of retribution. I can only do that so long as I can have a small barrier between my real and online identity.

Re:I actually like this trend... (1)

countertrolling (1585477) | about 4 years ago | (#32815580)

Off to Burma [blc-burma.org] with you...

Re:I actually like this trend... (1)

f3rret (1776822) | about 4 years ago | (#32815610)

... with more and more people being forced to use their real names on the Internet, you'll see a lot less flaming, trolling, and defacing. People I believe will be less quick to turn a discussion into an argument and more interested in understanding one another.

You've never actually been to the internets have you?

Re:I actually like this trend... (1)

SilverJets (131916) | about 4 years ago | (#32815612)

... with more and more people being forced to use their real names on the Internet, you'll see a lot less flaming, trolling, and defacing. People I believe will be less quick to turn a discussion into an argument and more interested in understanding one another.

Really? Because the John Smith that flamed you is any less anonymous than WolfTrapper?

A name with no picture of the person and no other personal information is as anonymous as a handle.

Re:I actually like this trend... (2, Informative)

butterflysrage (1066514) | about 4 years ago | (#32815758)

ok, we know John Smith, we can find out their region by looking at their server, a look at their post times and we can guess what time zone they are in, a reference to a specific ISP and you can get mighty close to knowing who a person is.

Re:I actually like this trend... (1)

Grimbleton (1034446) | about 4 years ago | (#32815658)

I use my real first and last name on Facebook and troll just as much as where I post under a moniker.

Re:I actually like this trend... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32815666)

What really makes it a bad idea, is that it is discriminating. What about those pore sods that only have a first name. They can't join in on forums. My thoughts go out to the royalties of Sweden and any other in the unfortunate situation to not have a last name.

Re:I actually like this trend... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32815726)

The little I remember from newsgroups was that the worst cooks and flamers happily used their real names. And why not, it's not like they had much to lose at that point anymore.

Triumph of the Marketroids (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32815248)

Well, we've got a whole generation of Failbookers who believe in attaching everything they do in real life to their real name... and we've got a game. If we can get people to divulge their real names to us, we can trivially cross-reference that with the data that Zuckerberg's already mined for us, and one outer-join later, money falls from the heavens.

What the consumer actually wanted - the ability to be The Real Them on Failbook, and Someone Completely Different while gaming - doesn't enter into it. *sigh*

My answer to this is the same as my answer to Failbook: a strange game, and the only way to win is not to play.

Reduced server useage (1)

golden_hands (615187) | about 4 years ago | (#32815284)

This is a nice move(( for Blizzard- not for their customers): 1. Require everyone to use their Real ID 2. Fewer people use forums or post anything they strictly dont need to. 3. Lesser costs on maintenance and infrastructure 4. Profit.

Re:Reduced server useage (3, Insightful)

ildon (413912) | about 4 years ago | (#32815452)

5. People stop posting legitimate, intelligent useful feedback because they value their personal privacy more than a video game.
6. Without the constructive feedback, issues without the game go unnoticed or unreported for longer periods of time.
7. These issues compound and add up making the game less fun, but it becomes more difficult to quantify why the game is less fun without this feedback.
8. Subscriptions slowly drop off and the game trickles away and dies.
9. Long term loss of profit for short term, nearsighted gain.

Re:Reduced server useage (1)

Guysmiley777 (880063) | about 4 years ago | (#32815710)

Legitimate? Intelligent? USEFUL? Blizzard forums? That's a good one!

The official thread (0)

Xaemyl (88001) | about 4 years ago | (#32815318)

The official thread that started this is averaging at least 2 pages a minute of negative comments since I learned of it 20 or so minutes ago. 168 pages and counting. And apparently, they're stock is dropping, but I don't know if this has anything to do with it.'

Re:The official thread (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32815698)

thanks for the link

Who's accountable when ... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32815330)

some can't-stand-loosing person tracks his opponents with this information and starts to harras, or worse : physically attack them ?

Yes, demanding that everyone is known by his true name to everybody else can only be a good thing ...

Now so bad. (4, Funny)

snarfies (115214) | about 4 years ago | (#32815350)

Fortunately, my real name actually is KÖRGULL THE EXTERMINATOR, so I won't be needing to change my battlenet ID.

Re:Now so bad. (0, Redundant)

nege (263655) | about 4 years ago | (#32815458)

KORGULL, Whats up Bro? Its Me, THOG 'TH UNTAMED! How have things been since the lynching?

In Blizzard's defense (1)

CrazyJim1 (809850) | about 4 years ago | (#32815372)

If you've ever seen a Blizzard forum, they're some of the worst trolled forums I've ever seen. Blizzard needs to do something. Blizzard looks to be grasping at straws though. What Blizzard really needs is a moderation system like Slashdot.

Re:In Blizzard's defense (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32815492)

Yes, because Slashdot's moderation system works so well. No trolls here.

Re:In Blizzard's defense (4, Insightful)

Captain Splendid (673276) | about 4 years ago | (#32815596)

No trolls here.

Hey, if you're browsing at -1, that's your problem, not Slashdot's.

No big loss. (1, Insightful)

jack2000 (1178961) | about 4 years ago | (#32815378)

I know i'm not going to use that forum if they make this mandatory.

Activision? (1)

II Xion II (1420223) | about 4 years ago | (#32815394)

I must ask this to anyone who really knows what is going on with Real ID and the Battle.net system (in addition to Blizzard politics). How much influence does Activision truly have over Blizzard's day-to-day operations and strategic initiatives? Is the eerily 1984-esque move to Real ID and the Battle.net system in more and more areas a product of the fated acquisition or is it something that Blizzard has implemented after getting more out of touch with reality? At first I didn't mind Battle.net or even the Real ID system as using your account name was optional, but now they are expanding it (presumably to combat trolls or dissenters and to better foster "camaraderie") to their forums. How long until they start implementing it in their game world? This is like the Facebook debacle all over again, only without many options. I am hopeful Blizzard will reevaluate this policy as it is not popular and definitively not a good idea from a privacy standpoint. The more coverage it gets, the more of a chance there is to see it scrapped. Especially now that there are other forums where WoW-related stuff can be discussed. Mass exodus from Blizzard forums ahead? Either way, I still wonder if this whole Battle.net and Real ID system is Activision's fault.

Everquest didn't have forums (4, Insightful)

Selfbain (624722) | about 4 years ago | (#32815396)

In the old EQ days (I know it's still around but who cares these days), all the forums for the game were run by the fans because there were no official ones. I have a feeling this change will cause similar forums to rise in popularity and Blizzard will accomplish little other than losing control of the conversation and pissing off their users.

Re:Everquest didn't have forums (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32815648)

That was the best way to do it IMO. Wish I had points to mod you up.

Its optional (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32815416)

"All posts in the future on the new forum systems will be an opt-in choice and ample warning will be given that you're posting with your real first and last name."

I just want all the QQ to stop already.

Stop the QQ (1)

tepples (727027) | about 4 years ago | (#32815682)

I just want all the QQ to stop already.

You're going to have to talk to Tencent about that [wikipedia.org] .

oh goodie (1)

KarmaKhameleon (1843244) | about 4 years ago | (#32815434)

Now they can ferret out all those prank phone call names like:

Coholic, first name Al
Hyuginkiss, first name Amanda
Butts, first name Seymour
or
I'm a stupid moron with an ugly face and a big butt and my butt smells and I like to kiss my own butt

Re:oh goodie (1)

rock_climbing_guy (630276) | about 4 years ago | (#32815664)

Don't forget Hugh Jass and Mike Rotch

Fuk Yuu (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32815448)

Azouipe the 3rd, at your service

What a sham! (5, Insightful)

yoshi_mon (172895) | about 4 years ago | (#32815454)

While a lot of people have gone on and on about how using real names will promote more civility and better discourse, something I seriously doubt is necessarily true, that is no where near the real reason Blizzard is forcing RealID.

It's a means to open up their TOS to allow dataminers access to a vast swath of information. Cha ching! Add to that anyone in game using RealID that then links up friends list? Cha ching! Even more information to datamine. And of course anyone who has played WoW knows that they log damn near everything. You can bet that gchat, party chat, officer chat, raid chat, general chat, trade chat, and every other channel that you type a letter in will be up for datamining. Cha ching!

It's all about the money people. Cloaked in a flag of good intentions.

Only idiots post with real name (5, Insightful)

junglebeast (1497399) | about 4 years ago | (#32815462)

1) Did Blizzard ever stop to think that many (most?) people play their games as an ESCAPE from real life?

2) Anything on Blizzard forums goes on Google, and comes up in search results. That means anybody who uses their forums is going to be labeling themselves, forever after, as a nerdy computer game player to future employers, dates, etc...which is not something that is looked upon positively by many people. I would certainly discriminate against potential employees if I saw that they were a WoW geek.

3) People sometimes have bad days, say things they regret later...on a forum this is all saved forever. Luckily only the people who know their forum name can find it. So you protect your hidden identities more securely than you protect your email passwords. Blizzard aims to make all those mistakes unforgivable.

There is nothing that is possibly worth saying on the Blizzard forums that is worth sacrificing one's anonymity for.

Re:Only idiots post with real name (4, Funny)

Divide By Zero (70303) | about 4 years ago | (#32815538)

Sir or madam, I respectfully object to the title of your most recent post. I have found using my real name to be an uplifting experience.

Respectfully,

Divide B. Zero III, Esq.

Re:Only idiots post with real name (1)

Manos_Of_Fate (1092793) | about 4 years ago | (#32815712)

1)That means anybody who uses their forums is going to be labeling themselves, forever after, as a nerdy computer game player to future employers, dates, etc...which is not something that is looked upon positively by many people.

But you are a nerdy computer game player. Are you really that concerned with hiding that from someone you (presumably) somewhat interested in getting to know on an intimate basis? Wouldn't that make finding someone compatible with yourself that much more difficult, if you're holding back parts of your personality? I've never bothered to hide my nerdiness, and it's been a very long time since I felt like anyone was judging me negatively because of it.

God says... (1)

Trivial Solutions (1724416) | about 4 years ago | (#32815486)

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Celebrity WoW Players (1)

adeft (1805910) | about 4 years ago | (#32815502)

The company may lose business from celebrities wishing to remain anonymous online. Dave Chapelle anyone?

Re:Celebrity WoW Players (1)

AuMatar (183847) | about 4 years ago | (#32815556)

What, you don't think he'd like to constantly be ganked, always followed up with a tell from a level 1 alt "I'm James Brown, biatch"?

Re:Celebrity WoW Players (1)

Captain Splendid (673276) | about 4 years ago | (#32815692)

The company may lose business from celebrities wishing to remain anonymous online. Dave Chapelle anyone?

Right, because there's not one single shred of evidence that companies treat celebrities differently than everybody else.

Re:Celebrity WoW Players (1)

mcfatboy93 (1363705) | about 4 years ago | (#32815732)

Im sure that Mr.T's WOW character is already easy to find... just look at all of them..?

Loss of noise AND loss of signal. (1)

Amnenth (698898) | about 4 years ago | (#32815510)

Several posts on the WoW general forums and MMO-Champion's article on the subject [mmo-champion.com] raise a valid and somewhat chilling point: while forum trolls are likely to be driven away, removing some of the noise from actual discussions, actual contributing posters are going to be shying away from the new forum system as well. People who would otherwise be helpful, share knowledge about class and game mechanics or even info about interface-modding are going to disappear entirely from the forums because they do not want to be compelled to show their real name to all.

I'm not sure if the loss of signal will be worth the loss of noise here.

Re:Loss of noise AND loss of signal. (1)

II Xion II (1420223) | about 4 years ago | (#32815570)

Which basically proves Blizzard only sways between two extremes.

I sense a disturbance in the force! (0, Troll)

synthesizerpatel (1210598) | about 4 years ago | (#32815514)

.. as if millions of trolls suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

Re:I sense a disturbance in the force! (1)

cosm (1072588) | about 4 years ago | (#32815654)

.. as if millions of trolls suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

Youtube's comments were disabled?

So what? (1)

LordPhantom (763327) | about 4 years ago | (#32815548)

This is a non-issue. Blizzard isn't forcing you to use your real First Last name, it's just forcing you to provide *a* first/last name. Put another way, with time codes it's impossible to prove your identity to blizzard, so you can pretend to be anyone you want with little chance they can enforce ULA or other contractual obligations.

Re:So what? (1)

Saishuuheiki (1657565) | about 4 years ago | (#32815590)

I think this part is understated. They don't verify your name with a credit card or drivers license. They post your 'real' name which is really whatever you tell them it is.

A very real tipping point (1)

erroneus (253617) | about 4 years ago | (#32815552)

Seems to me the more restrictions and qualifications for play and participation are imposed, the more likely people will stop playing and participating. After all, it wasn't that long ago that a game company's employee misused his access to do various nasty things... something to do with virtual currency and plans for ships or some such. All of this begs the question of what company employees might do to the customers under certain circumstances were real names and other specific identifiers made available to them. (And I am pretty sure that billing and payments departments have certain rules and requirements placed on them that other company operators do not... its these other operators I am more concerned with... but yes, I know the company "already has this information" in many cases.)

You are not now nor have you ever been anonymous o (2, Informative)

r6_jason (893331) | about 4 years ago | (#32815558)

I've posted this else where today, might as well post it here. People are up in arms over this one, most people seem to think that they are safe and/or anonymous behind their chosen internet handle. However this is not the case. As a TF2 server Admin I have seen many trolls get blown away when their personal info is posted in response to their trolling posts. Just by Googling the Handle some people use, you can start to gather pieces of personal information, email, phone numbers, real names, places, jobs, etc can be found in a matter of minutes, one piece of information leading to another, which leads to another, and so on until you have a complete picture of someone. You are not now nor have you ever been anonymous on the internet. With this change, adults will be expected to act as adults. If you don’t want the public to know what you are up to, don’t post it on the public internet, it seems rather simple to me.

What about WoW Armory (2, Interesting)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | about 4 years ago | (#32815564)

Is this going to tag a character on WoW Armory with the Real ID user name of the account holder?

It'd be awesome to find the names of an entire guild.

Worst damned idea ever Blizzard.

I don't get it... (1)

f3rret (1776822) | about 4 years ago | (#32815566)

I don't understand, how are they going to enforce the whole 'user must use real name'-policy? Are they going to be requiring users to send in copies of their passport/birth certificate/whatever before they'll allow them to create an account?

The whole thing seems to be on a purely honor system, sure the moderators there might be able to prune out all the 'Penis McBoobsfaces' that are going to be showing up over time. But there is no way to actually verify that all the John Smiths on there are actually called John Smith, short of them requiring users to send in proof of identity; I can't possibly imagine that asking users to jump through hoops to verify their identities would classify as a 'sensible business decision'.

Blizz forums (2, Insightful)

space_jake (687452) | about 4 years ago | (#32815574)

If you've ever been to the Blizzard forums then you'd know nothing of value was lost.

Re:Blizz forums (1)

II Xion II (1420223) | about 4 years ago | (#32815678)

I know you're probably just trying to be funny, but this is pretty serious. I can't imagine many will stick around after this change is implemented and given that fact the official community won't be around all that much longer. Of course there are trolls but to attempt to get rid of them by throwing the "baby out with the bathwater" so to speak, is a far worse idea.

My name is.. (2, Funny)

BigJClark (1226554) | about 4 years ago | (#32815584)


You insensitive clod! My name really is Leroy Jenkins

Internet Anonymity is good! (3, Insightful)

rotide (1015173) | about 4 years ago | (#32815614)

Imagine for a second a 42 year old lonely man (with very little social skills) playing World of Warcraft and he learns that Night Elf Rogue is actually a girl. They chat for a while and become friendly online. He starts to fixate and fantasize that those trips helping her level her alt are "dates" and eventually he falls in love with her. Or at least her character and voice.

Fixation turns into obsession and after a couple failed attempts to woo her into a real life relationship, she turns him down (hell, he's a creeper).

He gets upset and from the personal information he has gathered over their time "together" he is able to locate her using her _real_ name that Blizzard forces you to use (not a fictional "eName" you make up to give out on the intertubes to remain anonymous). Fill in the rest with your imagination.

Or, someone harasses you in game and you look to take revenge. Ninja looters, stealing quest mobs/items, kicking you from group/raid, etc. Maybe they simply want to threaten you (which already happens [NSFW] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUOI7BTmmk0 [youtube.com] [NSFW]).

Of course, this can happen anywhere with any site that shows real names (facebook, etc). But forcing people to drop their anonymity is a bad thing overall. How many children play Blizzard's _games_ of which are going to be forced to link their, or more likely, their parents names to their account and be seen? It's not that hard to track someone down when you know their approximate location and their last name.

I guess the short is, anonymity can be bad. People act like punks and you have to put up with it from time to time, I know, it sucks. But the good part is, little Johnny potty mouth won't have to potentially pay with his life. Hopefully he learns to grow up on his own without someone like the chick from the link I posted above hunting him down.

Screw the forums... (1)

chill (34294) | about 4 years ago | (#32815622)

Do I need to do that to play the game?

RealID Name (1)

UninformedCoward (1738488) | about 4 years ago | (#32815660)

Why are there so many John Doe's on this forum? Most have been a very popular name.

Real names are not unique identifiers (1)

Locke2005 (849178) | about 4 years ago | (#32815662)

What are the chances there will be more than one John Smith on the forum?

Pardon my ignorance, but... (1)

Hamster Lover (558288) | about 4 years ago | (#32815680)

How can Blizzard force you to provide your real first and last name? I mean, I could use any name other than my own so long as it appears to be a legitimate name and not some moniker or nickname.

Re:Pardon my ignorance, but... (1)

nightsweat (604367) | about 4 years ago | (#32815738)

Linked to a credit card, I'd imagine.

The children! (4, Insightful)

Rydia (556444) | about 4 years ago | (#32815696)

I like how slashdot commenters love to use "won't somebody think of the children?!" as a device for sarcastic mockery of various Internet policies. Then this happens, and we get a thread full of ...

"But ... won't somebody think of the children?!"

I'm changing my name on Battlenet (1)

abbynormal brain (1637419) | about 4 years ago | (#32815708)

to:

First: Dick
Last: McPlenty

Yeaaaahhhh... (1)

nightsweat (604367) | about 4 years ago | (#32815718)

No. Sorry. Not going to happen even if it means I never play another Blizzard game again.

Why Not Use Another Forum? (1)

Quintios (594318) | about 4 years ago | (#32815740)

So when they implement his, why not just use the Blizz forums for tech support? Leave out your character/toon ID and use another forum for your friendly, and not-so-friendly, discussions? What's so special about the Blizzard forums that you must post everything related to the game there?
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