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Sound As the New Illegal Narcotic?

samzenpus posted more than 4 years ago | from the you-ever-see-the-back-of-a-$20-bill-on-sound? dept.

Idle 561

ehrichweiss writes "The Oklahoma Bureau of Narcotics is warning parents and teachers of a new threat to our children: sounds. Apparently kids are now discovering binaural beats and using them to get 'physiological effects.' The report goes on with everyone suggesting that such aural experiences will act as a gateway to drug usage and even has one student claiming there are 'demons' involved. Anyone who has used one of those light/sound machines knows all about the effects that these sounds will give and to state that they will lead kids to do drugs is nonsense at best. It seems the trend in scaring the citizens with a made-up problem has gone to the next level."

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Seriously? (4, Funny)

dmgxmichael (1219692) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915310)

... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot to the max ...

Re:Seriously? (4, Funny)

bunratty (545641) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915750)

Everyone knows dihydrogen monoxide is the real gateway drug. It's a proven fact that all drug addicts consumed significant quantities of the substance before turning to the harder stuff!

Re:Seriously? (5, Insightful)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915752)

Agreed.

Listen, parents. Don't worry about drug use with your kids...altering consciousness is something that humans have taken part in for literally thousands of years.

Drug use is no cause for concern, and in the case of some kids, it can open their minds and expand their horizons. No, what you need to be worried about is drug abuse.

There is a very distinct difference.

Re:Seriously? (5, Funny)

blai (1380673) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915862)

Listen,

NO! I had been warned!

Re:Seriously? (5, Insightful)

beanluc (780880) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915940)

altering consciousness is something that humans have taken part in for literally thousands of years.

If Oklahoma is going to regulate activities which entrain brainwaves, they need to target the pushers purveying prayer and even training young kids and defenseless elders in its practice.

That's right, Oklahoma, go after the churches.

Further Down the Rabbit Hole (5, Funny)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915318)

Up until high school, I spent my entire life locked into an ideal Norman Rockwell painting. No cares, no worries and just high on life. Things took a turn for the worse one day when I picked up an 288 tuning fork and a 320 tuning fork. I struck them both against my leg and held one up near either ear.

It was pure bliss. Like Jesus was just 32 hertz away from me. I wish I could describe the feeling. Like half of all the blades of grass in the universe were hummingbirds and the other half were bumble bees.

Let's see--I was a freshman at that time. Yeah, things just went downhill from there. I had earrings made with a tuning fork hanging from each one. The left side was A440 and the right side was a custom 444. I could raise my fingers to either lobe and flick it for instant gratification. The other kids called it ear basing. I called it god. And he was just nineteen dollars and eighty cents on Amazon [amazon.com] . By my sophomore year I was already pretty hard into Fourier transforms. Everyone's tympanic membrane had a bifurcation sweet spot that could be exploited with the right theoretical frequencies. Yeah, we would rent middle of nowhere motel rooms to smelt hematite down into custom tuning forks and poor them into clay molds in the bathtub. We paid in cash and by the time the cleaning made hit the room it was slag burns in the carpet and clay all over the place. You probably remember the 20/20 investigations following all the reports.

Shit got real heavy real quick and one day we found Scrye (nickname for the metallurgist) hemorrhaging blood out of his ears in a coma from strapping two subwoofers to either side of his head with duct tape. I knew I had to get out, but how?

We gathered up all our text books on math, audio & music theory, physics, chemistry, electronics and metalworking and burned them in the parking lot of the hospital we brought Scrye to. I would never read about science again.

Parents, heed the images of those children getting 'innocent' highs from sounds and make sure they don't make the same mistake I did. This is just a gateway to bigger and badder things. If you find literature on Fourier Analysis, Electronics or Calculus in your child's bedroom, please get your child to Oklahoma and get them help from the nearest minister. I don't care if you have to lock them up in the basement against their will. Just make sure you save them from the same fate as I ... COMPLETE EAR DESTRUCTION!

Re:Further Down the Rabbit Hole (1)

Jester6641 (909919) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915436)

Bravo. Bravo. I mean, wow. Bravo.

Thread over. (1)

AnonymousClown (1788472) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915508)

No need to read further.

Thanks for saving me time.

Re:Further Down the Rabbit Hole (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32915672)

that's one of the greatest posts ever. hall of fame material. years from now we will read this again on slashdot classic.

w

Re:Further Down the Rabbit Hole (2, Insightful)

The Ultimate Fartkno (756456) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915726)

That was just... that... I mean. Wow.

I'm glad I was here for that.

Re:Further Down the Rabbit Hole (1)

Dancindan84 (1056246) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915844)

If there was ever a time that Funny should affect your Karma, this is it. You made my day. /bow

Re:Further Down the Rabbit Hole (1)

chooks (71012) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915882)

Chapeau.

What? (1)

fortapocalypse (1231686) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915324)

Sorry I couldn't hear you... I was listening to drugs.

Level Upper (2, Insightful)

Megane (129182) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915336)

So now they're going to be carrying around level_upper.mp3 [youtube.com] on their iZunes?

Re:Level Upper (1)

Rakshasa Taisab (244699) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915462)

No you didn't....

Re:Level Upper (1)

baka_toroi (1194359) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915628)

I'm gonna report you for drug facilitation.

Beware! (4, Funny)

Dragoniz3r (992309) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915770)

I once bought some level_upper off a buddy, and I thought it was the real deal, but as soon as I took the first hit I knew it was laced with Lady Gaga. Now I'm hooked on pop music :( Just be careful where you buy your sound from guys.

Do it! (3, Insightful)

gandhi_2 (1108023) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915342)

I sing because I live with Satan.

The Gateway Theory (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32915344)

First the brown noise, then the jenkem... poor kids!

Jenkem (4, Insightful)

DIplomatic (1759914) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915350)

This reminds me of that story from a couple years ago where news media reported that kids were getting high on human feces. Jenkem [about.com]

Re:Jenkem (1)

schon (31600) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915504)

That's just shitty. /me ducks

Re:Jenkem (1)

sconeu (64226) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915976)

We must obviously forbid people from creating human feces!

Re:Jenkem (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32916038)

Wait, getting high off human feces does not work? I have been trying this whole time and NOW someone tells me...

OMG Stereo! (2, Funny)

rrohbeck (944847) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915380)

Kids these days getting high on new beats! The sky is falling!
Back in my day it was only Techno and we walked to school, uphill both ways. Now get off my lawn.

Ummm.... (4, Insightful)

al0ha (1262684) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915394)

"It seems the trend in scaring the citizens with a made-up problem has gone to the next level."

Yeah no kidding, and you know why? People on Madison Ave. make huge money figuring out ways to sell more useless products to the populace. It has been proven that fear and uncertainty can significantly drive sales. Don't believe me? Google "fear drives sales"

The drug war is socialism (1)

spun (1352) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915906)

Fear based sales. Huh. And here I was thinking the drug war was just a work program for cops and socialism for potential addicts. I mean, seriously, what do you call it when society spends a bunch of money on a small minority to protect them from themselves? Socialism, right? The drug war is the worst kind of socialism.

sox ? (1)

dougmc (70836) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915404)

Does that mean /usr/bin/sox and xmms would be the new drug paraphernalia?

Anything that alters consciousness is a narcotic? (5, Insightful)

killdashnine (651759) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915406)

This kind of insanity is just plain stupid. Binaural beats have a documented psycho-dynamic effect ... programs like Hemi-Sync are intriguing. I don't think people are going to get "high" off of them though. But what if they do? If binaural beats are made illegal and deemed "narcotic", then the "drug war" is more about denying people access to their own minds.

Re:Anything that alters consciousness is a narcoti (4, Insightful)

Jaysyn (203771) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915558)

If binaural beats are made illegal and deemed "narcotic", then the "drug war" is more about denying people access to their own minds.

This is what the drug war has *always* been about. The rest of you are just now starting to figure it out.

"It's not a war on drugs, it's a war on personal freedom. Keep that in mind at all times." - Bill Hicks

plenty of things wrong with the war on drugs (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915786)

but if you say something like caffeine should be legally equal to something like methamphetamine, such a world has downsides even worse than the war on drugs

Re:plenty of things wrong with the war on drugs (1)

Jaysyn (203771) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915930)

No, I personally don't think meth is even close to the same level as caffine, but complete decriminalization is working out very, very well for Portugal.

Re:plenty of things wrong with the war on drugs (1)

Artifakt (700173) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915994)

You'll take my beloved Caffeine from me when you pry my turquoise Amp from my still twitching fingers...

Band? (3, Funny)

dtmos (447842) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915418)

As this beating phenomenon is used by musicians the world over to tune their instruments, I now predict a great increase in high school band participation.

Re:Band? (1)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915442)

No, silly, band will be illegal. It'll be the "gateway" to music.

It could lead to dancing.

Re:Band? (1)

ChefInnocent (667809) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915592)

Man, now I've got that stupid Kevin Bacon movie in my head.

Re:Band? (1)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915702)

Did you know that everyone's binaural frequencies are separated by Kevin Bacon's by only 6Hz? No, really, it's true!

April Fools? (3, Insightful)

arbiterveritas (1617099) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915422)

I can't stop laughing. This is hysterically stupid and, well, I had to check the calendar to make sure I wasn't three months ahead...

Nope! Not April 1st... Okay, that makes them taking this seriously a little more scary...

Re:April Fools? (1)

SiaFhir (686401) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915738)

Didn't you know? July 15 is the new April 1.

did today suddenly become April 1st? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32915434)

huh??!

It gets worse (2, Interesting)

luckyXIII (698285) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915456)

I bet they're sitting around drinking beverages heavily laced with dihydrogen monoxide, too.

Re:It gets worse (1)

bemymonkey (1244086) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915848)

The "Score:4, Interesting" mod scares me a little, because I'm not entirely sure whether or not it's really a joke. :/

When I was a kid... (1)

Picass0 (147474) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915460)

... there were people saying Dungeons & Dragons would lead to devil worship. That used natas to crack me up!!!!

Cooll Edit anyone? (5, Interesting)

jjoelc (1589361) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915478)

Anyone else ever mess with the "Brainwave Syncronizer" [consciousdreaming.com] In Cool Edit?

I suffer from occasional severe insomnia, and burning a full CD that gradually slowed the binaural beats down into the deep sleep stage was the ONLY non-narcotic solution to ever work.

Sad to realize all these years later, the only reason it worked is because it was my gateway to ambien...~

Re:Cooll Edit anyone? (3, Funny)

AndrewNeo (979708) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915620)

ambien..t music, right?

Re:Cooll Edit anyone? (1)

bunratty (545641) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915902)

I have a light-sound machine (or mind machine [wikipedia.org] ) that has some sleep programs. They all progress from 10 Hz down to 1-2 Hz. They've always been able to put me to sleep within about 30 minutes.

I wonder how many people will now experiment with mind machines and dreamachines [wikipedia.org] now that they're in the news. Can anyone say Streisand Effect?

what wacko out there actually beleives this? (0, Redundant)

freeballer (1160851) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915494)

I'll be honest. I'm going to go an listen to some.. But how is this news?
its neer been proven audio/radio waves have any effect on anything.. Let alone the human mind
we can't even have a consensus on cell phone = cancer and I'm suppost to take this seriously?
I think the kids are mind-f--king their parents and seeing how !@#$% stupid they are.
This is why the states and all over the world can't find a \\sensible\\ drug policy. Too many
wackos stirring up stupid bull-sh-t. Instead of pointing and laughing at their stupidity
somehow these "people" are taken seriously

They are a real thing that do kinda work (2, Informative)

easterberry (1826250) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915500)

"Binaural Beats" actually do produce pysiological effects by stimulating certain parts of the brain, but they're pretty weak in my experience, slight lethargy or increased heart rate at best. I know some people who are highly susceptible to them and get strong effects but even they find them to be too much trouble for the effect and only used them a few times as a novelty.

that said, the idea that they could work as a gateway to drugs isn't TECHNICALLY without merit. Trying these could lead to wanting to see what the real drug they're supposed to be emulating is like. But you're just as, if not more, likely to want to try drugs after watching Dazed and Confused than listening to binaural

Re:They are a real thing that do kinda work (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32915766)

It's questionable how much of that is actually real, and how much of it is the placebo effect. At least for the ones I've seen, the advertised precision was more than what normal audio equipment is capable of. Meaning that the signal might be there, but it couldn't be reproduced as it was beyond what the range of frequencies that speakers could do.

Re:They are a real thing that do kinda work (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32916016)

Erm... what?

30 seconds of steady 10 Hz binaural beats with background white noise [wikipedia.org] – the sound is in stereo, and the two channels play slightly different frequencies (10Hz difference, which corresponds to brainwaves in the Alpha range ... relaxation, pre-sleep and pre-wake drowsiness). You can’t hear that difference?

This is ridiculous (1)

ZERO1ZERO (948669) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915514)

I don't even know where to start. The whole news item is full of holes. Basically a load of bollocks. The whole concept is ridiculous, it's like that H20 hydrogen dioxide website. The language is so slanted ' luring kids' etc. oh dear. I seriously beleive If I lived in the states I could not watch american TV. It's just so absurd, and sensationalist, along with outright propaganda and annoying pronunciation of words. GRRRRRR Agh it makes me angry. How can people be so fucking thick.

Re:This is ridiculous (1)

Coren22 (1625475) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915876)

I do live in the US, and avoid TV as much as possible. Love Dr Who and Chuck though, but beyond that, not much on tv interests me, and the good things usually get canceled.

The Sixties just called... (1)

Deadstick (535032) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915518)

...they want their banana peels back.

rj

The real problem (1)

king neckbeard (1801738) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915526)

The real problem is those damn placebos. Let children get started on them, and before you know it, they'll be stealing televisions to pay for their next fix of sugar pills.

Brown Note (1)

grapeape (137008) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915542)

Well surely if music can make you high then the myth of the brown note cant really be a myth. Seriously if they believe that someone should just come up with one that plays backwards and tell the concerned parents that it will sober their kids up.

Cant wait to see mythbusters get ahold of this one.

Re:Brown Note (1)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915740)

It's well established that this works, in both directions. I'd rather not get into the neurophysics.

Confession of a Pusher (3, Funny)

Beardydog (716221) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915546)

My friend and I used to sit on opposite sides of another friend and sing a falsetto "oooooo" at slightly different frequencies. Her annoyance was entertaining at the time, but now I can't help but worry what kind of life we got her into. She's probably dead in a gutter somewhere, in a pair of studio headphones.

Obligatory (1)

Chagatai (524580) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915556)

This one time, at band camp, I took a flute and Suzy took a flute, and we blew two notes where the difference was 15Hz and we got high.

Re:Obligatory (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32915580)

Be honest. I've been to band camp, and those weren't flutes you and Suzy were blowing.

mandatory ROYKSOPP (2, Funny)

pigwiggle (882643) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915562)

"Hello?"
"Yeah it's me ... I wanna give you some good frequencies .. 1710, 2.6, 2245...'
"Yeah?"
"... 3032, 400 .. "
"Four hundred?"
"Yeah."
"I'm coming right over!"
"Do that."

Troll (2, Insightful)

pyster (670298) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915568)

I'm certain that the ppl at slashdot understand that is complete bullshit and have just posted it to see what kinda responses they would get.

Re:Troll (3, Insightful)

MozeeToby (1163751) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915664)

I know it's bullshit. You know it's bullshit. Probably the vast majority of people on Slashdot know it's bullshit. But I'm not completely convinced that the people in charge of regulating drugs know that it's bullshit; and that's a bit scary (and incidentally the point of posting it here).

Oklahoma Bureau of Narcotics needs to upgrade (1)

ribuck (943217) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915586)

I think it's funny that at 0:46 in the video they get the message "Please upgrade to a modern browser".

Probably marketing BS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32915590)

Wired has been known to run "news" that was actually marketing for a movie

Intro to Binaural Beats (5, Informative)

TheDarkener (198348) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915598)

I made this video a while back - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weOpxELqn-c [youtube.com] - I've done a lot of research on binaural beats. They are used to calm the mind and promote a lower brain operating frequency that is akin to relaxation or meditation. Some people say it's a placebo effect, others use it to promote a state of calm in their minds as they try to rid themselves of the daily thought process (many, many thoughts coming in and out of your head very quickly, which is associated with high brain frequencies). Trying to demonize BBs would be like trying to demonize meditation...which I'm sure isn't too far off.

I guess the fear surrounding what people don't understand will never go away. I suggest a split in civilization - let the smarties burrow deep into the soil and the dummies can fry up at the surface.

Sorry for the strange comment, I'm high on binaural beats. :p

Re:Intro to Binaural Beats (4, Funny)

pushing-robot (1037830) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915822)

After experiencing a few, I can say that I've started to get a sense of euphoria after I listen to them. More to the point, I'm just really glad the damn noise stopped.

Damn you mathematics! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32915602)

cos(a) * cos(b) = ( cos(a - b) + cos(a + b) ) / 2

Means to an end (2, Interesting)

U8MyData (1281010) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915624)

Sounds like a ploy to get rid of Cell phones, mp3 players, etc. from campus to me. There is a motivation here other than what is being delivered as with most things today. Redirection and NAT are being employed to shuttle popular opinion to a place where it does not need to be. Just my 2c...

Paul is Dead (4, Funny)

stubob (204064) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915640)

Yes, but what happens if you listen to it backwards?

Re:Paul is Dead (1)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915870)

You'll hear an authoritative voice say, "GO TO CHURCH! SAY YOUR PRAYERS DAILY! TITHE! TITHE!"
    (with apologies/thanks to Berke Breathed)

Told you so! (1)

Drakkenmensch (1255800) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915646)

The RIAA is the source of all evil because they keep promoting *gasp* MUSIC!!!

Brown note? (1)

grapeape (137008) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915652)

No wonder people still believe the brown note myth. If there are enough suckers to believe this someone should really market these "beats" played backwards as a way to sober up their musically high children...

I knew it! (1)

iamhassi (659463) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915686)

I knew you could get high on music! It's those damn Beatles and Rolling Stones again isn't it! In my day we were happy with the waltz and ragtime, now kids are listening to John Lennon and Mick Jagger.

....hey are you listening to me?! ..... fine, then get off my lawn!

With apologies to Pop Will Eat Itself ... (1)

LizardKing (5245) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915708)

... although Swaggart can go fsck himself.

"What is the truth about rock music? Music is a powerful and perhaps the most powerful medium in the world. Music. Plato says when the music of a society changes, the whole society will change. Aristotle, a contemporary of Plato's, says when music changes there should be laws to govern the nature and the character of that music. Lenin says that the best and the quickest way to undermine any society is through its music...Music, ladies and gentleman, is the gift of God it was given to man to offer praises to God and to lift us up to him and to exalt Him to touch the tender recesses of our hearts and of our minds. Satan has taken music and he has counterfeited it, convoluted it, twisted it, exploited it and now he's using it to hammer, hammer, hammer, hammer, hammer a message into the minds and the lifestyles of this generation."

Jimmy Swaggart

Poor Dan Rather! (3, Funny)

boristdog (133725) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915716)

Those dudes that attacked Dan Rather must've just thought he was a dealer!

But now we KNOW the frequency, Kenneth!

That reminds me... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32915718)

... of one of the first Pokemón episodes, aired in Japan, 1997, which sent over six hundred viewers to the hospital because of the lights and color combinations -- Pokemón Shock.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denn%C5%8D_Senshi_Porygon

4:20! Not just for WEED anymore man! (1)

shdowhawk (940841) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915748)

Fast forward to 2:05...

Yea dude! 4:20 is the new time for... umm.. youtube! Bwahaha... i'm so high ... ??? I think anyways? I'm listening to some really annoyingly pitched opera singer... Does that count!? DAMN THESE AUDIO WAVES ARE MESSING WITH MY HEAD!!1!

Life has become a Max Headroom episode (1)

StefanJ (88986) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915780)

"This is Edison Carter, live and direct at a secret Big Fun Network testing facility where the city's children have been used as guinea pigs for the next generation of . . ."

Church Music (1)

Tisha_AH (600987) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915782)

There has been some discussion regarding the music and chants in church having a psychological effect upon the parishioners. If you ever spent any time listening to Gregorian chants you can feel that there is "something" going on. Irrespective of your particular faith or lack of one.

Binaural Beats user here (3, Interesting)

blue_teeth (83171) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915802)

I am a user of binaural beats (not of the illicit/druggie type) but for more sober stuff. I use this for meditation "Hemi-Sync.Gateway Experience" and to enhance focus and concentration "Hemi Sync Metamusic". If you can get hold of Hemi-Sync Metamusic "Einstein's Dream", you will know what I am talking about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monroe_Institute [wikipedia.org]

http://www.hemi-sync.com/ [hemi-sync.com]

always urban myths about what gets you stoned (1)

peter303 (12292) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915804)

Many high school kids are looking for thrills. THey concoct all kinds of things to get high. Some are not dangerous like smoking banana peels. Others can be tragic like downing multiple bottle of cough medicine.

To paraphrase Mr. Churchill (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32915820)

Never, in the field of human conflict has so much bollocks been spoken to so many by so few.

I used to have a clock that did this ... (1)

Spectre (1685) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915826)

Way back in the day, I had a clock that told time this way.

Two low frequencies, which at midnight were very close together, so they would beat once per second, at noon were further apart, beating several times per second.

Likewise for two high frequencies that did the same thing but was on an hourly cycle.

fear-mongering .. bot hoax? (1)

dindi (78034) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915828)

OK, so this is useless panic making. Seems like the media has no war or tragedy to work on.

But the question is: can you really get anything out of these sounds? High? Relaxation? Weight loss, meditation?

Thinking of how a DJ (psy trance, goa) or a band (any kind, style) can move a crowd through moods, well, music and sounds can change your moods. But do binaural sounds do anything?

Well, to my wife's dislike, I loaded some up, and I found them relaxing, some of them actually scary (they relax you, then shock you with some sudden harsh effect)...

If this is going to be forbidden, then well, let's also go after Hendrix, psy and goa trance, all psychedelic rock music as well, because these can change your mood and cause a natural high in seconds when listened to "correctly" .

just my 2c ...

4:20pm on mp3 player (1)

LazyAcer (105424) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915842)

at 2:07 in the vid it shows a kids mp3 player with time 4:20pm ... OOO MMM GGG !!!11!!!!

=)

Who'd have known (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32915850)

that all that time in band class when I thought we were tuning our instraments, we were actually getting high.

We were so naive apparently, as well. We were always trying to stop the beating in these drawn out tuning sessions.

SUBMIT (1)

czarangelus (805501) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915858)

You are not people. You're not even animals. You are a CASH MACHINE FOR GOVERNMENT. That is all you are good for. If you go around trying drugs or hard reading or sounds or anything that might have the potential to expand your consciousness, you may become unsuitable. You may become defective. You might wonder why you aren't treated like a person, you might wonder if your work is benefiting you or if it's benefiting systems that are inimical to your interests. Subconsciously, the powers and principalities KNOW what they are doing and why you must, above all, not grow your field of perception.

So believe in Jeebus or believe in Big Bang or believe in anything you want as long as you don't actually THINK about it and keep the money coming.

It's not about drugs or violence or THE CHILDREN or any of the usual excuses. It is about engineering submission [lewrockwell.com] that is holy and immaculate and eternal. It is a war, a real war, which extends throughout the Earth and into the supernal and unnamed realms and it is a war which humankind continually invents new ways to lose.

Science fiction becoming science fact? (2, Interesting)

feldicus (1367687) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915864)

Sounds like we're on our way to semuta addicts...

Re:Science fiction becoming science fact? (1)

Vortexcycle (1600003) | more than 4 years ago | (#32916006)

I'm glad that someone made the Dune reference... :D

physics lab now illegal? (2, Insightful)

snoop.daub (1093313) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915872)

I used to TA for a physics course and one of the labs was about sound waves. We used empty plastic tubes and generated sound of a given frequency into them, then the students would change the length of the resonant cavity and find where the standing waves formed, and calculate the speed of sound from this. Then, the final part of the lab was to take the speakers and generate slightly different frequency tones and listen for the beat frequency. I guess this lab is now illegal in Oklahoma!

Re:physics lab now illegal? Also David Brin (1)

snoop.daub (1093313) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915962)

Also, it reminds me of David Brin's "Earth", where in the near future drug laws have been near-universally made obsolete by the ability of anyone to get high using biofeedback techniques.

News at 11 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32915910)

"American public reaches new levels of stupidity, News at 11"

Seriously though, this is disturbing. Not only are there people in this country stupid enough to believe this crap, but there's a news station stupid/desperate/low enough to pick it up as a story. A sure sign of humanities (or at least the USA's) downfall.

BS (1)

Maladius (1289924) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915920)

I heard a report about this on NPR last night. The researcher talking about it said the whole thing was basically BS in terms of altering one's state of mind. They did a small study (ok, really small, only 4 people), and found no shift in brain waves at all when listening to binaural beats.

DAMMIT (1)

fuzznutz (789413) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915960)

I haven't even tried cheesing, and now everybody has moved on to something else?

RIAA getting involved (1)

Jason Levine (196982) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915978)

Why do I expect to see a press release from the RIAA soon saying "We told all of you that this Internet/digital music thing was bad. See? Not only is it turning our kids into dirty, stinking pirates, but it's turning them into dirty, stinking, drug-addicted pirates! The only solution is to require anyone who wants to produce any sound at all to pay us a lot of money. We'll filter out all the bad sounds (binaural beats, pirated songs and anti-RIAA speeches) and keep in the good stuff (Boy Bands, Brittney Spears and pro-RIAA speeches)."

3 lines of mp3.... holy... durp (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32915984)

Man I just blew like 3 lines of mp3.... feeling like... wow...HAHAHA ROTFL!!!! WOOOO /sarcasm.

I can only confirm this. (1)

flibuste (523578) | more than 4 years ago | (#32915992)

Steve Reich and Philipp Glass as drugs? Well, I must be honest to the ./ crowd. Their music is highly addictive and produce strange "things" in my "brain" that definitely puts you in a different state of mind.

Oh wait! This ticklish effect in my brain is called "music"? Oh wooowwww

Who needs the Internets to get High? (4, Informative)

Tsu Dho Nimh (663417) | more than 4 years ago | (#32916000)

With a bit of training, you can do it without the headphones or music or drugs It's done in monasteries all the time. Some religious groups do it with repeated chanting. na-mu-my-h-ren-ge-ky y'all.

A simple equation (1)

Dracos (107777) | more than 4 years ago | (#32916010)

(Bible belt state) + (Activity parents will do not explicity approve) + (Child with psychological issues [see above]) = DEMONS!

Binaural Beats and Lucid Dreaming (2, Interesting)

Clyde Machine (1851570) | more than 4 years ago | (#32916024)

I've heard a lot of talk of binaural beats since getting into lucid dreaming, both of which I found out about on the Dreamviews website. [dreamviews.com] What I learned from there was similar to what this article states, except it comes from people who get themselves educated on the subject and discuss it, or they're just asking about binaural beats. Either way, this article sounds rather absurd to me. Music has been a gateway to drugs for decades, it's just a matter of how you look at it. Saying that listening to it makes you want to get high introduces nothing new, and is, like mentioned before, just some scare tactic to achieve some goal. Shame on them.
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