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Girl Seeks Help On Facebook During Assault

samzenpus posted about 4 years ago | from the emergency-status-update dept.

Crime 417

A 12-year-old girl who was being assaulted by her mother's ex-boyfriend used some quick thinking by sending a message on her iPod to a friend's Facebook account for help. The friend was able to contact the girl's mother who then contacted the police. 42-year-old Raymond Ernest Cesmat was arrested and charged with two counts of criminal sexual conduct in the first degree. He is being held at the Dakota County Jail on $175,000 bail.

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417 comments

Why's this on Slashdot? (5, Insightful)

Evro (18923) | about 4 years ago | (#32926640)

The girl was raped and the guy left the room. It's not like Facebook saved the girl from being raped. She contacted her friend and requested she contact her mother, then she escaped and called her mother herself from a payphone, then the guy was arrested. There's not much of a Facebook tie-in.

Re:Why's this on Slashdot? (5, Informative)

eln (21727) | about 4 years ago | (#32926790)

Slashdot is just taking from the standard journalist's playbook: If you can tie a story to something that's currently very popular, especially Facebook or Twitter, you can get 10 times the page hits you would have normally gotten. If you can tie those things into a story that will generate lots of hits all on its own anyway, such as one dealing with sexual violence against children, your story might even go viral and you can just sit back and watch the ad revenue roll in.

Re:Why's this on Slashdot? (3, Funny)

TheLink (130905) | about 4 years ago | (#32927026)

Another popular trick is to troll Apple fans.

There's mention of an iPod. But I don't see anything for the Apple fans to bite...

Re:Why's this on Slashdot? (1)

hitmark (640295) | about 4 years ago | (#32927210)

except that with apple, one is just as likely to get attention from the other side.

Re:Why's this on Slashdot? (2)

BitZtream (692029) | about 4 years ago | (#32927176)

Its not slashdot, just a particular 3 editors slashdot has that I like to refer to as the 3 stooges. timothy, kdawson, and samzenpus.

Re:Why's this on Slashdot? (1)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | about 4 years ago | (#32927420)

Unfortunately even Taco has succumbed to this kind of shit.

Re:Why's this on Slashdot? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32926838)

The girl was raped and the guy left the room. It's not like Facebook saved the girl from being raped. She contacted her friend and requested she contact her mother, then she escaped and called her mother herself from a payphone, then the guy was arrested. There's not much of a Facebook tie-in.

But it's on the internet, so therefore it's patentable.

Re:Why's this on Slashdot? (2, Insightful)

Shakrai (717556) | about 4 years ago | (#32926878)

The girl was raped and the guy left the room. It's not like Facebook saved the girl from being raped

.38 special > Facebook as a rape prevention device......

Re:Why's this on Slashdot? (4, Insightful)

Martin Blank (154261) | about 4 years ago | (#32927002)

Children are not allowed to possess a firearm unless in the presence of an adult, and 12-year-old kids in general do not have the judgment necessary to carry one on their own.

Re:Why's this on Slashdot? (2, Insightful)

MightyMartian (840721) | about 4 years ago | (#32927018)

I think a 12 year old who was about to be raped would probably find a reasonably good use for a firearm.

Re:Why's this on Slashdot? (3, Insightful)

obarthelemy (160321) | about 4 years ago | (#32927148)

and how many extra gun deaths do you think letting 12 yo have guns would cause ?

hint: http://www.gun-control-network.org/International.gif [gun-control-network.org]

(and that chart is only for INTENTIONAL deaths, you can add accidents to that, not that there are ver any accidents with guns...)

Re:Why's this on Slashdot? (5, Informative)

Fulcrum of Evil (560260) | about 4 years ago | (#32927398)

The great bulk of underage gun deaths are either suicide or gangbangers. 12 year old girls are almost completely absent from that count, save as random victims. In addition, the number of accidental shootings (the stereotypical 'hey look, it's dad's gun' scenario) runs about 100/year. In the grand scheme of things, it's a nonfactor.

Re:Why's this on Slashdot? (1)

Shakrai (717556) | about 4 years ago | (#32927048)

Children are not allowed to possess a firearm unless in the presence of an adult

There are quite a few "Armed American" stories that involve children picking up legally owned firearms to defend themselves and/or their families against violent assaults.

Re:Why's this on Slashdot? (2, Insightful)

nbauman (624611) | about 4 years ago | (#32927184)

There are quite a few "Armed American" stories that involve children picking up legally owned firearms to defend themselves and/or their families against violent assaults.

And there are quite a few more stories that involve family members picking up legally owned firearms in a moment of anger to kill another family member, or in a moment of distress to commit suicide.

Re:Why's this on Slashdot? (2, Informative)

Shakrai (717556) | about 4 years ago | (#32927286)

Spare me the talking points Mayor Bloomberg.

Re:Why's this on Slashdot? (2, Informative)

5KVGhost (208137) | about 4 years ago | (#32927358)

No, not really.

Re:Why's this on Slashdot? (4, Insightful)

gwayne (306174) | about 4 years ago | (#32927162)

Nonsense! I learned firearm safety around age 6 and have been using/carrying firearms on my own for over 30 years. Children who learn to hunt know very well the consequences using a firearm. I am not advocating that 12-year olds should carry weapons, but had she known how to use one, she certainly would have been justified in defending herself.

Re:Why's this on Slashdot? (2, Insightful)

Shakrai (717556) | about 4 years ago | (#32927262)

I am not advocating that 12-year olds should carry weapons, but had she known how to use one, she certainly would have been justified in defending herself.

This.

I knew a kid growing up that picked up a target rifle when someone broke into his house and attempted to rape his mother. Thankfully he didn't have to shoot the scumbag (guess he lost his nerve when he was looking at the business end of a firearm) but there's no way that you can say his actions weren't justified.

Re:Why's this on Slashdot? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32927362)

I knew how to hunt, whittle, clean fish and still pulled a knife on someone in anger at age 13. I mean, looking back, I was being bullied relentlessly over a significant period of time, but for some reason that wasn't considered justification for attempting to gut an adult. People don't want 12 year olds to defend themselves, because being 12 sucks and we don't want to expend the resources to make sure it doesn't.

Re:Why's this on Slashdot? (1)

Shakrai (717556) | about 4 years ago | (#32927390)

People don't want 12 year olds to defend themselves

Speak for yourself. My parents taught me never to meekly submit to someone that was trying to do me harm. I will teach my kids the same thing. You seriously think it's a good idea to teach your kids not to resist if someone is attempting to harm them?

Regarding bullies, my Mom had a saying: Never start a fight but always finish it.

Re:Why's this on Slashdot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32927426)

But... If she backs down, slips, gets over powered, gets distracted, does not actually intent to use it etc... It could have been taken and used against her.

I have a pistol, a shotgun, and a rifle and my kids use them under supervision. You can train them how to use and care for them but you can not impress the fact or predict what that kid will do when actually faced possibly having to shooting someone, specially someone she kind of knows who has a face and she has identified with in the past (different from a random bugler or rapist).

Re:Why's this on Slashdot? (2, Informative)

ElectricTurtle (1171201) | about 4 years ago | (#32927276)

Ages where a person can possess firearms varies from state to state and can depend on the type of firearm. In Nevada, North Dakota, and South Carolina, there is no age restriction on the possession of long guns. Why, oh why, do people mod baseless assertions like this so high?

(I've also met twelve year olds who were more responsible than some people are at the age of majority.)

Re:Why's this on Slashdot? (5, Insightful)

mcvos (645701) | about 4 years ago | (#32927332)

Children are not allowed to possess a firearm unless in the presence of an adult,

Haven't you read the story? There was an adult right there!

Re:Why's this on Slashdot? (1)

sjames (1099) | about 4 years ago | (#32927454)

Oddly enough, at one time 12 was considered old enough, particularly in emergencies. Of course, at that time, one of the prizes in cracker jacks was a "match shooter"; you insert a match, pull back the hammer and release and it strikes the match and propels it a short distance away.

Re:Why's this on Slashdot? (1)

obarthelemy (160321) | about 4 years ago | (#32927096)

Yep. Also much better for righting all wrongs: more playstation time, less spinach, marbles thiefs, bath-time enforcers. Thankfully 12 year old kids are in full control of their emotions (like all adults, too), and gun possession would never cause a shouting match or fistfight to graduate to gun murder/

Re:Why's this on Slashdot? (3, Insightful)

thijsh (910751) | about 4 years ago | (#32927024)

Because with an ordinary case the vulture-like journalists can't easily find out the address, pictures and favorite color of the little girl in question, not to do anything to remotely help or support but to get as much views as possible... The facebook part is just used to enlist crowds of geeks to track every little bit of information down... I guess they didn't know they could just scour facebook to find her profile by searching for a comment like: PLZ water my farm 4me, being raped IRL!!! BRB? :'-(

Re:Why's this on Slashdot? (4, Funny)

AdamTrace (255409) | about 4 years ago | (#32927254)

"PLZ water my farm 4me, being raped IRL!!! BRB? :'-("

I'm so ashamed that I find this as funny as I do...

*shame*

Re:Why's this on Slashdot? (1)

Xest (935314) | about 4 years ago | (#32927408)

To be fair when someone gets murdered and the guy 5 doors down owned an 18 rated computer game or whatever then computer games get blamed so I see these kinds of stories as balancing it all out!

No seriously though, both types of stories are equally retarded.

How? (0, Redundant)

RivenAleem (1590553) | about 4 years ago | (#32926646)

How did she manage to pull this off while being assaulted at the same time? What did he think she was doing, updating her status?

Re:How? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32926704)

Current mood: Violated

Re:How? (1)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | about 4 years ago | (#32926720)

Come on, he's 42 and she's a young hipster. He probably thought it was a bar of soap, not an iPod.

Re:How? (-1, Redundant)

Low Ranked Craig (1327799) | about 4 years ago | (#32926786)

I'm 42 and probably more hip than you. Sent from my iPad sitting in Starbucks listening to Passion Pit.

Re:How? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32926856)

I'm 42 and probably more hip than you. Sent from my iPad sitting in Starbucks listening to Passion Pit.

I think the word you were searching for is "tool". iPads in Starbucks come under the heading "tool" rather than "hip". Although calling one's self "hip" is a qualification for "tool" designation as well.

Re:How? (1)

MightyYar (622222) | about 4 years ago | (#32926872)

Don't break your hip!

Re:How? (1)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | about 4 years ago | (#32926890)

I'm in the 18 - 24 Demographic and ultimately have more hipness than anyone over 40 could ever possibly achieve.

It's not something thats up for debate or competition, thats just the way it is.

It's kind of like ketchup on eggs you know?

Yeah, I'm sure, you get it now, that was a great analogy.

Re:How? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32927022)

Mine is bigger than yours an that's more than you could ever possibly achieve.

Re:How? (2, Insightful)

drc003 (738548) | about 4 years ago | (#32927034)

I'm not even trying to get the point. I just want to make it clear that ketchup on eggs is for losers no matter your age or perceived amount of "hipness". These are the same people who would put Heinz 57 on a Filet or Porterhouse.

Re:How? (1)

Low Ranked Craig (1327799) | about 4 years ago | (#32927416)

I didn't think this was required, but /sarcasm. Starbucks sucks. I'm actually sitting here in sweats, drinking crappy chock full o' nuts coffee, currently listening to 2112, writing code. BTW hipness (lame term, BTW) has nothing to do with age - you either have it or not, and if you have to tell people that you have it - you don't.

Re:How? (1)

The Yuckinator (898499) | about 4 years ago | (#32927388)

"You guys are so unhip it's a wonder your bums don't fall off."
-Zaphod Beeblebrox

Re:How? (1)

Shakrai (717556) | about 4 years ago | (#32926904)

He probably thought it was a bar of soap

I'm sure he'll have enough of those to worry about where he's going.

Re:How? (1)

natehoy (1608657) | about 4 years ago | (#32927482)

The article has a pretty clear timeline.

He confiscated her cell phone earlier in the evening, and was probably unaware that her iPod gave her any ability to communicate. He wanted her isolated.

Later, he walked into her room, naked, and attempted to remove her pants. She screamed. He left the room briefly. She sent a message on Facebook asking a friend to contact her mother and ask Mom to come and take her home. I don't know what was going through her head at the time, leaving might have been a better option, but she's 12 years old and asking for help was probably not a terribly bad option.

He walked back into the room very shortly thereafter and raped her, after which she escaped the house, got to a payphone, and called her mother who was already enroute.

Maybe she could have handled it better, such as leaving immediately, but if she only had enough time to fire off an IM over Facebook to a friend, it's unlikely in the extreme that she could have escaped or secured the room in the time she had available, and any attempt to do so might have made the situation worse. She might have thought he wouldn't come back in since he left after a scream.

As it is, she used her only communications media to make sure people knew she was in trouble and who was a threat to her, which would have been very useful if this whole thing had turned even more tragic and Cesmat had actually killed her. She called for help using the only method she knew would reach someone she knew.

good example (1)

SemperUbi (673908) | about 4 years ago | (#32926730)

So glad the girl had the courage and skills to fight back and draw blood in what must've been a totally scary situation. Way to go!

Guy is a serious asshole. Prison inmates aren't kind to guys who go after kids.

Re:good example (1)

couchslug (175151) | about 4 years ago | (#32927086)

"Prison inmates aren't kind to guys who go after kids."

Citation needed. It would be fine if rapists and pedos got the Father Geoghan treatment, (too bad it didn't last longer, but ++ to his killer for planning and execution!)
but we'd hear a bit more about it if they did.

Re:good example (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32927432)

If I was in prison and my I got wind my cell mate raped a child, I'd ensure he took his last breath in short order.

Mother... (5, Insightful)

Dan East (318230) | about 4 years ago | (#32926742)

"Cesmat, who has a sizable criminal history,"

The girl's mother is an idiot.

Re:Mother... (1)

Sponge Bath (413667) | about 4 years ago | (#32926796)

You will probably get slammed for that, but it is the truth. Letting the career criminal you no longer date live at your house with unrestricted access to your under age daughter? Durrrr....

Re:Mother... (5, Interesting)

elrous0 (869638) | about 4 years ago | (#32926822)

Some women have the worst taste in men. I had an aunt who would climb a tree to find the worst possible guy when she could have stood on the ground and dated a nice guy. She dated a string of guys literally coming right out of prison. Needless to say, she took a string of beatings, was stabbed a couple of times, her kids were beaten. The family finally just cut her off and told her that they weren't going to help her anymore until she started making smarter decisions. AFAIK, she never did (her kids cut off contact with her long ago too).

Re:Mother... (0, Troll)

pak9rabid (1011935) | about 4 years ago | (#32926886)

The girl's mother is an idiot.

No shit..not to mention the guy totally looks like a pedophile/rapist. Way to ignore all red flags...

Re:Mother... (1)

cparker15 (779546) | about 4 years ago | (#32927172)

The girl's mother is an idiot.

No shit..not to mention the guy totally looks like a pedophile/rapist. Way to ignore all red flags...

What do pedophiles and/or rapists look like? Are they a race unto their own? Do they have some soft of discriminating mark on them? If so, why aren't we just rounding people up based on this one trait alone?

Oh... You mean I'm just feeding a troll? Sorry! :-(

Re:Mother... (3, Funny)

Fulcrum of Evil (560260) | about 4 years ago | (#32927430)

there's the pedosmile - once you recognize it, you can't not see it.

Re:Mother... (4, Informative)

Kleiba (929721) | about 4 years ago | (#32927030)

It gets better:

"The mom was no longer dating Cesmat but he continued to live with them."

Re:Mother... (4, Informative)

srealm (157581) | about 4 years ago | (#32927238)

While I agree, none of the criminal's prior offenses included either violent crimes or crimes of a sexual nature.

His priors were for fraud and such. I'm not saying the mother was not an idiot, but it's not like she left her with a known pedophile or rapist.

Re:Mother... (0)

Nyder (754090) | about 4 years ago | (#32927252)

"Cesmat, who has a sizable criminal history,"

The girl's mother is an idiot.

While I'm not defending the guy (he's a loser), his listed "crimes" were no big deal. He didn't have a history of physical or sexual violence. It was some theft & some bad checks.

Not a big deal, all in all.

Of course, that is what he's been caught for, and now, he has sexual assault on a minor & probably rape, so he's graduated to the big time dickwad.

Re:Mother... (0, Flamebait)

Shakrai (717556) | about 4 years ago | (#32927312)

It was some theft & some bad checks.

Ah, so Mom left her 12 year old daughter with a scam artist and thief. That's so much better.

Re:Mother... (0)

antibryce (124264) | about 4 years ago | (#32927264)

not really trying to defend the mom, but the guy's criminal record doesn't seem to contain any sexual crimes. just because someone has a DUI doesn't mean they can't be trusted with kids.

For all we know his convictions are from a long time ago and he's been clean since the mom has known him.

Re:Mother... (1)

Yvanhoe (564877) | about 4 years ago | (#32927392)

Well, she was dating a rapist, for a start...

Re:Mother... (1)

MoriT (1747802) | about 4 years ago | (#32927414)

Right, because blaming people other than the rapist has worked so well at preventing rape thus far.

Uh. okay. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32926768)

Glad he got caught but it's hardly mind boggling that a young girl use facebook to send a plea for help. When stressed you tend to use what you know, and with how often folks check their facebook page it’s almost as good as texting.

Good for something (3, Insightful)

maclizard (1029814) | about 4 years ago | (#32926784)

This easily the best application that Facebook has ever been used for.

Sad. (1)

DWMorse (1816016) | about 4 years ago | (#32926812)

Yes, this isn't a Slashdot story, and no, this had nothing to do with Facebook as it could've been a text message instead for all it was.

But a kid was raped, and that's not so awesome that everyone should be hopping on the "lol rape jokes" bandwagon.

Let's just chalk this up to bad story moderation per editor, do our internal-pity-thing for the girl for a sec, and move on.

Re:Sad. (-1, Troll)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | about 4 years ago | (#32926882)

LOL U GONNA GET RAEPED

wait, this is slashdot (0, Troll)

circletimessquare (444983) | about 4 years ago | (#32926826)

where pedophilia isn't real, its just a propagandistic fearmongering tool to control people and remove their freedoms

you can't possibly be suggesting that pedophilia actually happens and that pedophiles must be caught and punished, are you?

Re:wait, this is slashdot (4, Insightful)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | about 4 years ago | (#32926914)

Rape by force is real.

Re:wait, this is slashdot (1)

tibit (1762298) | about 4 years ago | (#32927094)

This was rape, yes, but not pedophilia. Doesn't make it any more or less abhorrent. Pedophilia is by definition a sexual interest in prepubescents. The guy is not a pedophile simply due to raping a 12 y.o., as she was likely sexually mature. On top of being a rapist, he may be a pedophile, too, but we can't tell just by what he did now. In my mind pedophiles deserve lifetime prison sentences with no possibility of a parole. This guy deserves a couple decades in jail for sure, but it's really not pedophilia. It's the rape of a minor. Let's call things the way they should be called.

Re:wait, this is slashdot (1)

Shakrai (717556) | about 4 years ago | (#32927160)

In my mind pedophiles deserve lifetime prison sentences with no possibility of a parole. This guy deserves a couple decades in jail for sure, but it's really not pedophilia. It's the rape of a minor.

So you think someone with an attraction to underage persons who never acts on that impulse should serve more time than someone who uses violence to satisfy his needs? Your kidding, right?

Rape should be a capital crime, IMHO.

Re:wait, this is slashdot (2)

rfelsburg (1237090) | about 4 years ago | (#32927248)

In my mind pedophiles deserve lifetime prison sentences with no possibility of a parole. This guy deserves a couple decades in jail for sure, but it's really not pedophilia.

Are you implying rape of a minor doesn't deserve life in prison without parole, or even rape in itself. In my book they are both equal, and very much deserve the same punishment.

Re:wait, this is slashdot (0, Redundant)

thijsh (910751) | about 4 years ago | (#32927448)

In my mind pedophiles deserve lifetime prison sentences with no possibility of a parole. This guy deserves a couple decades in jail for sure, but it's really not pedophilia. It's the rape of a minor.

A pedophile deserves absolutely no jail time, who the fuck cares that you get turned on by men, women, horses, hentai, shoes or children. It's only the practicing pedophiles you need to worry about... But we already have laws against those sick fucks. Anyone who rapes a minor deserves lifetime in prison with no possibility of a parole, furthermore anyone who has sex with a minor under 16 can never claim this was consensual since someone twice the age can put an amount of pressure on a child that is not to be underestimated... If you ignore this last part all the pedophiles keep claiming the children want it too. They want the children to want it too, and pretend it works that way, but as long as we'll never let a piss-poor defense like that fly that too counts as rape (since the child did not consent legally).

Rape is a terrible thing, when it's a minor it's far worse... But that does not mean we should fuel the whole witch-hunt for pedophiles... It will only lead to kids being charger for photographing themselves and crazy shit like that.

Re:wait, this is slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32927186)

Uh. He's busy raping young girls, and not jerking off to pictures of them.

So far is there a high correlation to people jerking off to humans/animals/etc in pictures, and them actually having sex with those entities (or raping them)?

I'm sure there are lots of people who jerk off to centerfolds but are never ever going to fuck/rape one.

Just because you fantasize having sex with someone doesn't mean you will force them to have sex with you.

It may even be a turn-off for many people - to me if the other person doesn't enjoy it, what's the point? I'm not that much of a sadist.

And even if that superhot MILF next door actually wants it, you may not go through with it, because you think it's immoral (adultery). Or because her husband is a good shot... ;)

Re:wait, this is slashdot (1)

vadim_t (324782) | about 4 years ago | (#32927316)

Heh, but notice how this is not the fearsome predator that lurks on Facebook or other places on the very, very scary Internet.

This guy was actually invited by her own mother there.

In other words, the people to fear are not the scary strangers on the net, but the ones we have right near.

Facebook saves young girl from assault by predator (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32926830)

... Isn't that the opposite of how it usually works?

"911" it isn't that hard to do. (0, Redundant)

Spectre (1685) | about 4 years ago | (#32926888)

Teach your kids this. If there is an emergency, you can dial "911" on any phone.

At least in the neighborhoods around where I am this will get police to your (approximate) location even if all you do is dial it and hang up.

Works from nearly any phone, best from a landline, but any modern cel phone with location services EVEN one that does NOT have a current provider contract.

Naturally, if you can give your address to the 911 operator it will speed things up if you are using a cel phone (no wait while police knock on doors in the neighborhood to find you).

Re:"911" it isn't that hard to do. (5, Informative)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | about 4 years ago | (#32926980)

While that's a great thing to teach and learn, in this case the girl had no cell phone, but was able to ask for help on an iPod Touch.

Re:"911" it isn't that hard to do. (1)

Spectre (1685) | about 4 years ago | (#32927244)

Good point, I suppose her home could be rather like my current one ... no landline.

When I was a kid, nearly every phone in the house had a POTS phone, so I made a bad assumption.

But then again, I'm ancient!

Re:"911" it isn't that hard to do. (1)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | about 4 years ago | (#32927384)

And alot of landlines are cable modem phones, they don't do address lookup either.

Re:"911" it isn't that hard to do. (2, Informative)

ekgringo (693136) | about 4 years ago | (#32926986)

I know, I must be new here, but I read the article. He took away her cell phone before she went to bed (possibly making this a premeditated assualt), but she was able to use her iPod to post her plea for help on Facebook (presumably over a wifi connection).

Re:"911" it isn't that hard to do. (1)

Shakrai (717556) | about 4 years ago | (#32926990)

911: When seconds count help is only minutes away.

Why not just dial 911? (-1, Troll)

casiowatchchick (1857704) | about 4 years ago | (#32927008)

Why didn't this chick just dial 911? Was it so hard to find the digits 9-1-1 on the keypad?

Re:Why not just dial 911? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32927088)

RTFA - she didn't have a phone.

Re:Why not just dial 911? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32927104)

iPod, not iPhone. Plus she might be left handed.

Re:Why not just dial 911? (1)

Gi0 (773404) | about 4 years ago | (#32927120)

Cause dialing 911 on an iPod Touch will do nothing.

Re:Why not just dial 911? (1, Redundant)

geekoid (135745) | about 4 years ago | (#32927164)

A better question is: Why the fuck you din't read the article? Was it so hard to click on the link.

Dumbass.

Re:Why not just dial 911? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32927192)

Why didn't this chick just dial 911? Was it so hard to find the digits 9-1-1 on the keypad?

She had a IPod Touch, not an IPhone, she couldn't dial 911 because the Touch can't make phone calls.

Why is this on Idle? (5, Insightful)

djKing (1970) | about 4 years ago | (#32927044)

A 12-year-old girl, victim of criminal sexual conduct in the first degree. Hilarious.

Why do women live with such abusive criminals? (1)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | about 4 years ago | (#32927050)

Especially when they have 12 year old daughters? Cant understand it.

Re:Why do women live with such abusive criminals? (1)

Shakrai (717556) | about 4 years ago | (#32927342)

Because he loves me!

One of the most pathetic things I ever witnessed was a woman out at some diner at 2am with two black eyes. She's talking on the payphone to god knows who explaining why it was her fault that her boyfriend had to hit her.

Re:Why do women live with such abusive criminals? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32927394)

It took me many years to learn not to be a "nice guy" if I wanted to get dates with women.

Be attentive and caring = get rejected. Be a prick = get laid.

Women are naturally wired to want abusive jerks for some reason. Then they complain that there are no nice guys out there...

Something that everyone seems to be ignoring: (5, Insightful)

Azuaron (1480137) | about 4 years ago | (#32927084)

The girl grabbed her iPod. Not her iPhone. Not her cellphone, the home phone, the anything-phone, her iPod. Her cellphone was taken away. So everyone who's going, "Why didn't she call 911?" or "This could have easily been a text message," it couldn't. iPod. Had that been me, I'd probably have searched frantically for a phone, even venturing outside my room, and ultimately running to the payphone. It shows incredible presence of mind for her to realize she could get a message out from her iPod (via Facebook, but it could easily have been email or pretty much any other internet communication).

I think that puts it firmly in the realm of Slashdot, and the debate should be something more along the lines of, "Should police departments have Facebook/other social networking accounts for the purpose of getting crime reports similar to 911." Probably not (too much spam), but it's something to consider. Sometimes it's easier to get on the internet than to a phone.

Re:Something that everyone seems to be ignoring: (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32927110)

yes its much easier to dick around wating on facebook to even load rather than pick up that plastic thing and press 3 buttons

Re:Something that everyone seems to be ignoring: (3, Informative)

Azuaron (1480137) | about 4 years ago | (#32927130)

iPOD. Not a phone. NOT A PHONE. Pay attention.

who lived with who (1)

rfelsburg (1237090) | about 4 years ago | (#32927098)

This is screwed up regardless and cutting some parts off with a dull knife is def. in order, but

She begged her friend to contact her mother and tell her to come pick her up.

who was living with who? There seems to be more here than is being reported.

Re:who lived with who (1)

Azuaron (1480137) | about 4 years ago | (#32927152)

It says the mother was out of the house, but it doesn't say why. New boyfriend, perhaps?

Re:who lived with who (1)

rfelsburg (1237090) | about 4 years ago | (#32927206)

I was actually more interested in why it was worded that particular way. To me

tell her to come pick her up.

implies she was at another persons house and not her own.

Re:who lived with who (1)

Gi0 (773404) | about 4 years ago | (#32927284)

Her 12 year old daughter was raped by her ex boyfriend who was still leaving with them.Is another boyfriend sound like the worst part of the story,regarding her judgement?

Re:who lived with who (1)

rfelsburg (1237090) | about 4 years ago | (#32927442)

What are you talking about? I was merely asking why the girl would need to be 'picked up by her mom' if she was at her own house. The wording implies she was not at her house, it has no bearing on the guy raping her, or the fact that this is an atrocious act. I was asking whether there were some details that were not being disclosed. Simple, not that hard to grasp.

What stinks about this is (1)

al0ha (1262684) | about 4 years ago | (#32927306)

The mother is 100% to blame, from the story.

"Cesmat, who has a sizable criminal history,"

No caring mother would put their kid in harms way, good to see the child can take care of business, she should have gouged the a**holes eyes out.

Re:What stinks about this is (1)

Azuaron (1480137) | about 4 years ago | (#32927462)

I think you are somewhat confused about percentages, criminals, psychology, parents, and/or children, probably a combination of all of them, but especially the first two.

The CRIMINAL who ACTUAL DID THE CRIMINAL ACTS is definitely highly to blame, more than anyone else. Certainly, the mother is to blame, somewhat, for letting this guy into the house, and even the girl is to blame, slightly, for not barricading her door and getting out of there after the first (failed) attack, but neither of those excuses the guy who's actually the pedophile/rapist. The majority of the blame, and thus the future punishment, resides with him.

Not very smart (-1, Redundant)

IGnatius T Foobar (4328) | about 4 years ago | (#32927366)

Ummm ... does this girl not know about 911?

Re:Not very smart (1)

Gi0 (773404) | about 4 years ago | (#32927422)

Do you know how to read?Ipod touch.

Re:Not very smart (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32927464)

rtfa, fuckwad

Screw 911 - Update Status! (-1, Troll)

arhhook (995275) | about 4 years ago | (#32927438)

Yes, her first instinct, after being sexually assaulted, was to grab her music player and go on Facebook. Telephones exist. They also make calls. Fuck, we're retarded.

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