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Internet Access While Sailing? (Revisited)

timothy posted about 4 years ago | from the might-be-some-holes-in-this-plan dept.

Communications 308

El Genio Malvado writes "10 years ago the question was asked, What is the best way to get Internet while at sea? After reading the responses — and after a decade of technological advancement — is there a better, more reliable method? For someone with the ability to telecommute 100% of the time, then the idea of sailing around the world with a paycheck direct deposited must be getting more and more tempting. What does the community at large have for modern resources for constant streaming internet at sea?"

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308 comments

Not just internet (1, Interesting)

SquarePixel (1851068) | about 4 years ago | (#32949178)

I'm actually in the same position. I am able to do all of my work online and my workplace doesn't have a problem with me traveling at the same time. It is really great when you can move to life in a different country for a few months and see various different places and people. It's amazing how much it relies stress too, so it's a win-win for both me and the company.

But if I went sailing around the world, how do you get everything else too? Food, drinks, health and hygiene stuff, what about getting sex and what do you do if you need emergency help?

However, it would be great way to start a day by waking up in the morning and take a swim in the sea in middle of nowhere.

Re:Not just internet (4, Funny)

dangitman (862676) | about 4 years ago | (#32949204)

... what about getting sex...

That's what sea cucumbers are for.

Re:Not just internet (3, Funny)

dintech (998802) | about 4 years ago | (#32949246)

A+++ yuck. Would spew again.

Re:Not just internet (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949274)

... what about getting sex...

That's what sea cucumbers are for.

Or sail to a harbor. I heard girls like seaman and mighty pirates.

Re:Not just internet (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949306)

Or sail to a harbor. I heard girls like seaman and mighty pirates.

Been to Halifax last year. In bars the conversations between girls go sortof like this: "The German Marines were awesome last night", "well I prefer the Italians", ...

Get on a ship, pull into a harbour, find local bars and you score because you're not going to "cling" around, you're "something different as they already know/have seen", more sexual starved and it's easy indulgence for both parties.

The next morning or a few days later you're back on your ship, fishing for sea-cucumbers anyhow.

Re:Not just internet (5, Funny)

Cwix (1671282) | about 4 years ago | (#32949594)

If you downloaded copyrighted works illegally while you are sailing does THAT make you a pirate? If you did do such a thing where would the RIAA send the notice?

Lol this is just a joke, that is all.

Re:Not just internet (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949714)

A better question is this: If you were in international waters is it even a violation of copyright? What jurisdication's rules would be followed? What court could the plaintiffs sue you in? And, after reading this, who is going to go set up a new floating island in international waters with massive bandwidth and call it a "download destination" for a piratical getaway? "Come stay a week with us and torrent every movie and song ever written." BYOS (Bring Your Own Storage).

Re:Not just internet (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949230)

But if I went sailing around the world, how do you get everything else too? Food, drinks, health and hygiene stuff, what about getting sex and what do you do if you need emergency help?

Let me guess, you're in management?

Re:Not just internet (4, Funny)

eldavojohn (898314) | about 4 years ago | (#32949248)

It's amazing how much it relies stress too, so it's a win-win for both me and the company.

I would be afraid that whatever technology you select to stay connected with the source of all your income would suffer from outages too often. I think in this case it would increase stress if anything.

However, it would be great way to start a day by waking up in the morning and take a swim in the sea in middle of nowhere.

Middle of the ocean? Why would such a featureless landscape seem any different from another featureless landscape? I would think it would be amazing to go to the Maldives or another resort-y area and take a swim there. But the middle of nowhere ... why?

what about getting sex

Please, I'm in the middle of DC and I'm probably getting as much as I'd get in the middle of the ocean. I am posting on Slashdot after all ... I do enjoy how you commoditize it though. "Sir, may I take your order?" "One hot steamy cup of sex, please!"

Re:Not just internet (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949312)

"Sir, may I take your order?" "One hot steamy cup of sex, please!"

"One fresh sea cucumber coming up!"

Re:Not just internet (3, Interesting)

mcgrew (92797) | about 4 years ago | (#32949846)

I'm in the middle of DC and I'm probably getting as much as I'd get in the middle of the ocean. I am posting on Slashdot after all ... I do enjoy how you commoditize it though. "Sir, may I take your order?" "One hot steamy cup of sex, please!"

I feel for you; I understand that what with all the high paid bureaucrats and politicians, hookers cost a fortune there. Here in the midwest you can get a cup of hot steamy sex for twenty bucks or even less.

Re:Not just internet (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949250)

Food, drinks, health and hygiene stuff, what about getting sex and what do you do if you need emergency help?

What do you think he wants the internet for?

Yeah, that's great and all... (1, Funny)

thijsh (910751) | about 4 years ago | (#32949268)

but now I kinda hate you already...

Re:Yeah, that's great and all... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949508)

I hear you! Great job with such freedom and a sailboat, and still complaining about easy access to hookers, blow and the intertubes. What a jackass!

(Psssst: I also wish I could trade places)

Re:Yeah, that's great and all... (1)

thijsh (910751) | about 4 years ago | (#32950048)

(Psssst: I also wish I could trade places)

Wouldn't we all? :-)

Re:Not just internet (4, Insightful)

couchslug (175151) | about 4 years ago | (#32949418)

"Food, drinks, health and hygiene stuff, what about getting sex "

Buy them in port like everyone else.

Re:Not just internet (1)

Threni (635302) | about 4 years ago | (#32949642)

> Food, drinks, health and hygiene stuff, what about getting sex and what do you do if you need emergency help?

If you have a big enough gun all those problems sort of take care of themselves.

100% if the time on a best effort service? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949198)

You cant find wired services that have 100% up times.Good luck with the wireless pipe dream.

Re:100% if the time on a best effort service? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949254)

yes, nothing has 100% uptime, thank you captain obvious. It would also be helpful to let him know that the sea is in fact both blue and wet. And since we're wasting time stating common knowledge, you are a douchebag.

Re:100% if the time on a best effort service? (4, Funny)

M8e (1008767) | about 4 years ago | (#32949258)

You cant find wired services that have 100% up times.Good luck with the wireless tube dream.

INTERNET IS TUBES!

If you have to ask... (0, Flamebait)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about 4 years ago | (#32949202)

... you probably cannot afford it. If you had the money you would probably already know what your options are for that. After all, the kids who have been attempting solo sails around the world haven't exactly been coming from poverty...

Re:If you have to ask... (0, Troll)

Heshler (1191623) | about 4 years ago | (#32949316)

Right, because rich people are inherently more knowledgeable...

Re:If you have to ask... (1, Funny)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about 4 years ago | (#32949420)

Right, because rich people are inherently more knowledgeable...

No, they just have the money to buy these kinds of toys. This is the kind of information that you would probably get through the guy who polishes your Bentley every Wednesday. Oh, wait, you don't have your Bentley polished every week? You don't have a Bentley? Yeah, then at your income bracket internet access in the middle of the ocean is likely not possible.

However I'm pretty sure there have been a couple people over the history of mankind who have sailed around the world without internet access.

Re:If you have to ask... (5, Funny)

maxwell demon (590494) | about 4 years ago | (#32949552)

However I'm pretty sure there have been a couple people over the history of mankind who have sailed around the world without internet access.

Yes, for example Columbus. Since he had no internet access, he could not just look up his coordinates in Google Earth to find out where he was, and therefore he thought he were in India when he wasn't. Also a quick check in Wikipedia would have shown him that true Indians look quite different, and he would not have mistaken the native Americans for Indians.

So you see, having internet access is quite important when sailing.

Re:If you have to ask... (4, Funny)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about 4 years ago | (#32949652)

Also a quick check in Wikipedia would have shown him that true Indians look quite different, and he would not have mistaken the native Americans for Indians.

Perhaps Columbus had a very-early draft copy of a textbook that would come to be approved by the Texas Board of Education?

Re:If you have to ask... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949538)

Let me guess - you're dumb and poor?

Re:If you have to ask... (0, Offtopic)

PopeRatzo (965947) | about 4 years ago | (#32949488)

After all, the kids who have been attempting solo sails around the world haven't exactly been coming from poverty...

The last one didn't do so well. Maybe it's time to re-evaluate this "sophomore solo sailing trip around the world" fad among rich kids.

A 17 year-old Paris Hilton sailing solo around the world is an amusing image. But ever since the South Park episode with Paris Hilton, that's my image of all spoiled rich girls. The finale of the showdown between Mr Slave and Paris is SP at their most wonderful.

Back on topic, if any of you do manage to sail around the world while telecommuting, could you to me a favor and not Tweet or blog about it? I'd rather not know.

Re:If you have to ask... (-1, Troll)

Lumpy (12016) | about 4 years ago | (#32949738)

if you have the cash to sail around the world, then you can easily afford to hire a consultant to get the right thing for data connectivity. AS in easily afford I mean, $10,000 is lunch money kind of cash.

Sailing around the world takes a lot of money, you dont buy a $4500.00 handyman's special 1952 sailboat in florida, load it up with crap, and simply head east unless you are trying to commit suicide.

I agree with you, the guy is simply jerking slashdot around.

BGAN (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949226)

If you have the money, look into BGAN terminals. Hughes and Thrane & Thrane are the two major manufacturers.

I'm too lazy to insert links, google is your friend.

Re:BGAN (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949296)

"BGAN terminals are not allowed to be used on the open ocean on a moving vessel. Inmarsat has created the FleetBroadband service that uses the I4 satellites for maritime communication."

Re:BGAN (5, Informative)

Albanach (527650) | about 4 years ago | (#32949326)

Yes, for near global coverage it looks like Immarsat still rules.

Here's some pricing:

http://www.ocens.com/inmarsat/inmarsat_FB_airtime.htm [ocens.com]

Looks like you'd need to be on a fairly good gig, or fill the boat with similarly employed geeks!

Re:BGAN (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949476)

$13 per MB? That's on the same order of magnitude my phone carrier charges for international roaming...

Re:BGAN (3, Insightful)

Cwix (1671282) | about 4 years ago | (#32949680)

If the middle of the ocean doesnt count as roaming what does?

Re:BGAN (1)

Idbar (1034346) | about 4 years ago | (#32950108)

While HUGHES has good history with satellite communications, I'd say that using a BGAN terminal (which appears to be for land) may not correctly work as well on water. As our friends at Apple should learn, radio frequencies have to be carefully analyzed.

Earth does not reflects RF signals as water. RF bouncing on moving water can become a multipath living hell, thus I'd believe that solutions involving open sea should be better targeted to big boats and should be very conflicting and expensive on small ones.
But I guess it's worth checking .

NMT (3, Informative)

etnoy (664495) | about 4 years ago | (#32949228)

In some countries the NMT system [wikipedia.org] is still operational and is used by ships for it's excellent coverage (compared to GSM, that is). Don't have any links at the moment, but I know some ships that are using NMT to get an OK network connection when out on the sea. Other than that, I think I remember you can surf using VHF. Don't know about SSB, internet over SSB would be slow but with an awesome coverage. Last resort: Satellite.

Re:NMT (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949612)

No, last resort would be HAM. Satellite is pretty much the only way to have a consistent internet connection at sea. The NMT system is obviously worthless unless you're only sailing the Nordic seas.

Re:NMT (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949746)

It's illegal to use HAM that way.

Re:NMT (1)

dimethylxanthine (946092) | about 4 years ago | (#32949954)

In France... (link [slashdot.org] )

Re:NMT (4, Informative)

neurophys (13737) | about 4 years ago | (#32949670)

I use the NMT - system as implemented in Scandinavia (http://www.ice.no/ [www.ice.no] ). It works all places I sail. It cost approx as an ADSL-connection. I opted for a plan of $30/week when in use (summer and winter holidays) and nothing at other times.

B to Penthouse to B (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949232)

It's not far down to paradise
At least it's not for me
And if the wind is right you can sail away
And find tranquility
The canvas can do miracles
Just you wait and see
Believe me

It's not far to never never land
No reason to pretend
And if the wind is right you can find the joy
Of innocence again
The canvas can do miracles
Just you wait and see
Believe me

Sailing
Takes me away
To where I've always heard it could be
Just a dream and the wind to carry me
And soon I will be free

Fantasy
It gets the best of me
When I'm sailing
All caught up in the reverie
Every word is a symphony
Won't you believe me

It's not far back to sanity
At least it's not for me
And when the wind is right you can sail away
And find serenity
The canvas can do miracles
Just you wait and see
Believe me

BGAN (4, Informative)

chainsaw1 (89967) | about 4 years ago | (#32949240)

This was asked sooner than 10 years ago, and I'll repeat my answer to that thread.

You want BGAN. It's an INMARSAT service. Designed for marine use, but will not be cheap

http://www.inmarsat.com/Services/Land/BGAN/default.aspx [inmarsat.com]

Re:BGAN (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949320)

From wikipedia:
BGAN terminals are not allowed to be used on the open ocean on a moving vessel. Inmarsat has created the FleetBroadband service that uses the I4 satellites for maritime communication.

Re:BGAN (1)

Albanach (527650) | about 4 years ago | (#32949356)

It's been pointed out above, than BGAN is only useful for stationary vessels, it cannot be used on the open ocean. For that you need FleetBroadband also from Inmarsat. Needless to say, it's even more expensive.

Re:BGAN (1)

chainsaw1 (89967) | about 4 years ago | (#32949430)

BGAN would probably work on a sailing vessel 8 kts). It works on riveriene craft we have used. The asker unfortunately did not provide details on the displacement and dimensions of the boat used, nor the environment in which it would be used (intercostal? Open ocean? Time of year? Tropical or artic? How much actual connected time is needed to telecommute? Insert other requirement related questions here...)

Needless to say, any boat / ship that is rocking enough will have difficulty maintaining a signal without an antenna tracker.

Re:BGAN (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949384)

Couldn't agree more. Great service, speedy, reasonably priced (relatively speaking). Used it on the boat many times.

Geez, call me old fashioned (4, Insightful)

Dunbal (464142) | about 4 years ago | (#32949242)

But I remember when a Loran-C [wikipedia.org] was high tech. Now people want to stream video from the middle of the Atlantic... Hey, back in the old day we didn't need porn we just brought women with us. Owning a sailboat and cruising the Caribbean went a long way towards getting those panties off!

But seriously, always have a good old almanac and sextant as a backup. Because if your generator gets fucked, you and your high tech toys are fucked. They never turn off the sun and stars, however ('cept in a storm of course - Murphy's law would have your generator fail in the middle of the hurricane anyway).

Personally I go sailing to get AWAY from the rest of the world, not to stay connected to it.

Re:Geez, call me old fashioned (0)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 4 years ago | (#32949338)

Given how much generators enjoy things like vibration and being doused with saltwater, you might not even need to invoke Murphy's law...

Re:Geez, call me old fashioned (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 4 years ago | (#32949382)

Given how much generators enjoy things like vibration and being doused with saltwater, you might not even need to invoke Murphy's law...

The vibration involved on a boat is jack diddly shit compared to what you have to deal with on a car. You can buy marine generators which have sealed electronics. If you grease up the plug real good with dielectric compound you can even expect them to last for a while.

On the other hand, even a ruggedized laptop is going to breathe the air, so all your unsealed electronics can be assumed to be on their way out from the moment you bring them on the boat...

Re:Geez, call me old fashioned (2, Insightful)

Lumpy (12016) | about 4 years ago | (#32949784)

Most boats use the engine as the generator. you fire up the diesel and let it charge the batteries. Very rarely do you have a dedicated generator on the boat. And you want diesel not gasoline...

Re:Geez, call me old fashioned (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949378)

Leave the sextant and the almac at the nursing home and have a boat with sensible design. If you have a motor sail, besides the motor/generator group keep a set of solar panes like you had a non-motor sailboat. Use proper battery care and storage and decent electronics to control the set. You're safer on a boat correctly designed - and leave past tools to the past.

Re:Geez, call me old fashioned (5, Insightful)

Overzeetop (214511) | about 4 years ago | (#32949424)

Never underestimate technology that works when completely unpowered and soaked with saltwater.

Re:Geez, call me old fashioned (4, Insightful)

sukotto (122876) | about 4 years ago | (#32949696)

Don't just *have* the sextant. Make it a habit to take a daily noon sighting and record your distance logger.
Always assume the GPS is wrong until verified by hand.

Inmarsat BGAN (0, Redundant)

$pace6host (865145) | about 4 years ago | (#32949244)

Look into Inmarsat [wikipedia.org] , they offer a service called BGAN [wikipedia.org] .

I'm not sure how expensive it is, but if you're sailing around the world, you probably have a different view of expenses than I do.

Re:Inmarsat BGAN (1)

PseudonymousBraveguy (1857734) | about 4 years ago | (#32949358)

The wikipedia page mentiones $7.5 per megabyte.

Re:Inmarsat BGAN (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 4 years ago | (#32949532)

I'm pretty sure that I've had cell plans that cost more than that, once I went over my "free with contract 5MB allotment for the month"...

Inmarsat FleetBroadband (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949298)

http://www.inmarsat.com/Services/Maritime/FleetBroadband/default.aspx

Re:Inmarsat FleetBroadband (5, Informative)

n1ywb (555767) | about 4 years ago | (#32949396)

Agreed, Fleet Broadband is your only good option. It's not particularly cheap, though it doubles as a sat phone which you'd probably want anyway. I guess it all depends on how much bandwidth you need vs how much money you make. It's not particularly fast either, 300k-ish if I recall, and it's a shared channel(s). But it's much faster and cheaper than the older F-77 technology.

Also that equipment isn't the worlds most reliable, you either need to buy two so you can have a backup, or think hard about how much downtime will cost you when you are two weeks out of kerplopistan harbor and nobody there knows how to fix one of these things so you have to get parts flown in air-freight.

The trouble is most satellites use spot-beams to focus their signals on continental areas, where the people are. They intentionally focus their signals AWAY from the ocean, where the people are not. Services like Hugues Net, etc. They usually work in coastal areas, but that's about it.

Re:Inmarsat FleetBroadband (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 4 years ago | (#32949570)

Any idea why the hardware is that flaky?(fundamentally tricky design problems; because we can; etc?)

Off the cuff, I would think that somebody selling a very expensive service, to people who probably have their reasons for needing it, where most of the investment is in the satellites, would want the reliability of their ground hardware to be less of a joke, and more of a chuck norris joke...

Re:Inmarsat FleetBroadband (2, Interesting)

n1ywb (555767) | about 4 years ago | (#32949996)

The ocean is a tough environment.
The antennas are gyro stabilized and have a lot of moving parts.
Lighting is common at sea and does terrible things to radios.
Radios in general get hot and fail sometimes. No ship goes out to sea with only one means of communication, usually 3 or 4.

Re:Inmarsat FleetBroadband (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32950016)

Can anyone see a price on these? I can't find it. Probably a bad sign...

Fear Not - (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949370)

Anything is possible!

Just find a way to send a 56K signal over shortwave. (Modem-audio out to radio in, shouldn't be hard.) Have the receiver on land retransmit that signal through a telephone. Dial into a dial-up ISP of your choice, and enjoy the slow.

Re:Fear Not - (1)

n1ywb (555767) | about 4 years ago | (#32949944)

That will work great, until the FCC raids your house, takes your equipment, and fines you.

Cut & Splice (3, Funny)

Bert64 (520050) | about 4 years ago | (#32949376)

Get a diving suit and a pair of wire cutters...
Dive down to an underwater cable, cut it and splice yourself into the middle of it! High bandwidth internet access at sea.

Adventure. (1)

AnonymousClown (1788472) | about 4 years ago | (#32949386)

What does the community at large have for modern resources for constant streaming internet at sea?

You spent all that money on a sailboat and you're going out to sea for an adventure to ....stream content...sit on your ass and watch Youtube videos? To surf the web?!?

Email: How about go into port?

For voice (there are family emergencies ) there's satellite phones.

Entertainment out at sea and if you really have to have stuff, how about ust getting DVDs or Blu-Ray?

Re:Adventure. (1)

vlm (69642) | about 4 years ago | (#32949518)

The article poster, in addition to assuming he can telecommute, is assuming the only way to get :

Nautical Charts

Weather Maps

Travel Guide type info

Relevant Current International and Local News (Somali pirates, etc)

Emergency and Almost-Emergency assistance

Help locating repair parts for your boat

is over the internet for free or for a small fee. You could actually get most of what you need out of a ham radio license and the mobile maritime service net. But you'd have to "talk" to other people over the radio, which may or may not be acceptable.

http://www.mmsn.org/ [mmsn.org]

Hmm, so your future employers can pay you a staggering amount of money to float your boat, or pay some 3rd worlder with practically zero cost of living to do the same job. Wonder how thats going to turn out.

Also the original poster seems to think you just put it on autopilot the whole time and "work on the real (computer) job". I don't think the original poster knows much about actual sailing. Unless he is so fabulously wealthy that he's planning on hiring a crew to do all the work for him.

Re:Adventure. (2, Funny)

Lumpy (12016) | about 4 years ago | (#32949830)

Weather maps... You can get them easily, there are several birds that pass each day that give you nice old SSTV images of your hemisphere.
Charts, if you left port without them then you deserve to die in the belly of a shark.
Pirate, sorry but maps.google.com/pirates is not functional... for some reason there are no live traffic reports of pirate locations.

If you dont have the tools, knowledge, and skill to circumnavigate the globe without internet and radio, then you deserve to die if you embark on such a trip.

Re:Adventure. (1)

aicrules (819392) | about 4 years ago | (#32949528)

He wants it for telecommuting. So that he can work while sailing away.

Re:Adventure. (1)

davetucker (1796554) | about 4 years ago | (#32949546)

His work might require a constant connection. For example, he made need IM for collaboration, or access to source control if a programmer, or a network share for various files. Youtube was clearly not the goal.

Re:Adventure. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949622)

It's for his work. If you'd RTFOP, you'd know that.

Re:Adventure. (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | about 4 years ago | (#32949732)

What part of "telecommute" [wikipedia.org] did you not understand?
I doubt he gets his money for entertaining himself (otherwise I'd like to know where to get such a job ;-))

A few solutions (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949412)

1. A lot of marina's seem to be starting offer wifi which covers the moorings. So you can at least get online when in port at reasonable speeds.
2. GSM coverage usually extends at least 10 miles offshore, if you're travelling parallel to the coast (and it depends where in the world you are) you might be able to use GSM networks. Getting hold of local sim cards is much cheaper than paying roaming fees.
3. Iridium phones can manage dial up internet access at 2400bps for around $1.50 per minute. Globalstar phones will give you 9600bps but (despite the name) coverage is far from global. Thuraya give you "unlimited" internet access for a mere $3550 per month and speeds into hundreds of kilobits per second. Other's have already mentioned Imarsat's BGAN. http://www.satphone.co.uk/index.shtml has good info on all of these.
4. Try and rig up something over amateur radio and use an AX25 to TCPIP gateway. Speeds will be slow (a few kilobits per second at best) and its likely to be unreliable. But it should be cheap/free.

wait for starbucks coffee buoy's with free wifi (0)

Rivalz (1431453) | about 4 years ago | (#32949416)

I think once Starbucks has a store at every 2 miles on every continent they will have to eventually start populating the ocean. Give them a year or two. By then you should be able to float up to their starbucks buoy building and grab a latte and use their wifi.

Thuraya GmPRS (1)

ickleberry (864871) | about 4 years ago | (#32949426)

Doesn't work everywhere, its slow but somewhat cheaper than BGAN and you only need a handheld satellite phone for it to work.

but still at $5 per MB I would be writing a script to compress my RSS feeds using PAQ8 so I can download them over TFTP and writing a custom binary protocol IM client to save bandwidth

marine backhoe? (1)

turtleAJ (910000) | about 4 years ago | (#32949436)

Save the latest maps with undersea comm cables and just tap into them as needed.

Thrane & Thrane SAILOR 500 Fleet Broadband (5, Informative)

ChapsRL8 (665139) | about 4 years ago | (#32949450)

The million dollar carbon fiber sailboats that compete in the Volvo Ocean Race in 2009 used three systems for voice, data, and fax communications. The one that I recall was Thrane & Thrane SAILOR 500 Fleet Broadband. They would shoot HD video with HD cameras and then upload clips via that system from the middle of the ocean. SAILOR 500 Fleet Broadband is a complete system with bandwidth up to 432kbps and allows phone calls to be placed at the same time. I believe the monthly service fee is upwards of $400 a month excluding equipment fees and installation. http://www.thrane.com/Maritime/Products/Satellite%20Communication/SAILOR%20FleetBroadband/SAILOR%20500%20FleetBroadband.aspx [thrane.com]

Cruise Ship + Cantenna = ?? (0, Troll)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about 4 years ago | (#32949468)

Perhaps you could get a really good wifi antenna for your boat and then try to stay "just close enough" to a major cruise ship. The large boats usually have wireless internet available, and hacking (or paying for) their access would likely cost you quite a bit less than a provider who will get you online independently in the middle of the ocean.

Granted, it may be illegal, the cruise line probably won't care for it, it probably isn't very safe or smart, and it means giving up your independence to set your own route. But if internet access in the middle of the ocean is that important to you and your learjet pilot doesn't have a suggestion for you then it might be worth a shot.

Re:Cruise Ship + Cantenna = ?? (4, Funny)

Lumpy (12016) | about 4 years ago | (#32949848)

Arrrr! there be WiFi pirates!

Hoist the Wifi Jolly roger! Ready the laptop's me maytes this one has load balancing uplinks!

Re:Cruise Ship + Cantenna = ?? (1)

insufflate10mg (1711356) | about 4 years ago | (#32949852)

Thanks for the laugh on this somber morning.

Re:Cruise Ship + Cantenna = ?? (1)

phorest (877315) | about 4 years ago | (#32949884)

Yeah and then they'll call DHS and say they're being followed by a pirate...

iridium? (1)

hitmark (640295) | about 4 years ago | (#32949490)

seems they are aiming directly at this kind of market.

Iridium NEXT (2, Informative)

grumling (94709) | about 4 years ago | (#32949530)

If you're willing to wait another 5 years, Iridium is in the process of replacing their constellation:

http://multivu.prnewswire.com/mnr/iridium/44300/ [prnewswire.com]

What does the US Navy use . . . ? (1)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | about 4 years ago | (#32949544)

They must have some Internet access at sea. Not that they would want to share it, though.

Just curious, anyone know?

Why? (1)

spammeister (586331) | about 4 years ago | (#32949550)

Why now you are taking one of the most fulfilling passtimes, sailing, and combining with the exact opposite, your job! Combining these two will only result in sailing becoming as tedious as your job and your job now controlling every single part of your life.

Methinks you should join the merchant marines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Merchant_Marine/ [wikipedia.org]

Australian coverage.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949560)

http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/networks/coverage/outtosea.html

If your not going too far out to sea, Australia is fairly well covered.

In order for a service out to sea to work effectively, line of sight to the terrestrial base station is required. This is influenced by the height of the serving base station, land based obstructions such as trees and buildings, as well as the general topography of the land, which can block signals. Coverage will not be reliable over the horizon from a mobile base station even though it may be usable at times.

Intelsat maritime services (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949562)

It's not cheap, but if you have a large yacht it shouldn't be an issue

http://www.intelsat.com/services/telecom/mobility/maritime-benefits.asp

Pigeon (4, Informative)

retech (1228598) | about 4 years ago | (#32949584)

If you are ANYWHERE near South Africa, New Zealand or Oz use a carrier pigeon it's faster than access here anyway and heaps cheaper. Plus you won't get nailed when going over your data cap!

Re:Pigeon (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | about 4 years ago | (#32949850)

But are there any providers for IPoAC?

Re:Pigeon (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949964)

And pray what makes you think us Anonymous Cowards would want to transport your packets?

Re:Pigeon (1)

laejoh (648921) | about 4 years ago | (#32949966)

And it's all documented! Read the fine RFC 1149 and RFC 2549 :)

Gotta love the irony (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949740)

Kinda offtopic but funny..
If any of you read throught the comments of the ask slashdot from 10 years ago you get this jewel

Satellite Links for anywhere (Score:3)
by dublin (31215)
on Wednesday May 31 2000, @08:31AM (#1036605)

A few years ago, I had the privelege to do one of the coolest consulting gigs of my career. The job was for a global oil company that ships more oil than anyone else, and was very concerned about minimizing environmental damage and having the right command and control structures in place instantly in the event of a spill.

Read up on Abby Sunderland's trip (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949768)

They had every aspect of her trip covered, phone systems, internet (she blogged from sea). The only thing unaccounted for was a giant rogue wave that took down her mast, but that could have happened to anyone. They do mention the services that was used by the team.

Why bother... (1)

dimethylxanthine (946092) | about 4 years ago | (#32949854)

if you can download the entire Wikipedia anyway? wait...

multiple systems (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949868)

I would try to have a combination of systems, SSB, WIFI for when at a marina or anchored in front of someones house broadcasting unsecured (we use this on the Chesapeake Bay a lot, just to get some emails off, not to stream or use much bandwidth. Then a Sat phone (iridium) would be good to have for low coverage areas and cell phone tethering or a data usb plan for around areas with coverage. There are so many people out there that are blogging everyday while out on their adventures, so there is the technology out there, it's a matter of what you can afford and what you need. I've thought about cruising and doing something similar in the future if possible, but to be logged on and working 8 hours would be a lot when on the boat.

Ask Daddy or Your Butler (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949906)

I'm sure if you tracked down "Muffy" on the tennis court, he could help answer your question after wiping sweat from his brow with his cashmere sweater.

Barring that, just have your butler do your research for you. It's one of the many things you pay him for. Hell, maybe even your chef, your driver, or your masseuse could do it for you too. Every one of them has a better work ethic than you do.

Sailing is strictly for people with more money than brains. Don't think too hard about this, you might hurt yourself.

One word: (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32949950)

Iceberg.

Winlink 2000 (1)

DoctorPepper (92269) | about 4 years ago | (#32949958)

Well, you could get your Amateur Radio license, then you could use Winlink 2000 to send and receive emails while at sea.

http://www.winlink.org/ [winlink.org]

Of course, I personally despise Winlink 2000, because of the robots that never listen to see if other stations are transmitting, before they transmit, but that's just my personal opinion.

iDirect (3, Informative)

falconcy (1082517) | about 4 years ago | (#32949978)

Forget BGAN, they charge on actual throughput and can be pretty expensive to operate. What you actually need is a SeaTel or similar tracking antenna - this will constantly keep you connected to the satellite as you are mobile, an iDirect http://www.idirect.net/ [idirect.net] 3000 series or X3 modem (depends on the provider you use) and a subscription with one of the many providers of such services. The initial setup costs could be a bit pricey, so just look at the hardware cost as an investment. Your best bet is a provider with the ability to actually offer service over multiple satellites covering most of the globe. It can get a bit complicated when switching satellites so choose a company which specializes in Maritime VSAT services, they will be able to advise you on how best to do this.

Lots of choices - None that good (5, Informative)

abarrow (117740) | about 4 years ago | (#32950032)

Much depends on where you are going to be, exactly what access you want, and how much you are willing to pay.

Long distance cruisers generally go for SSB-based email (either Sailmail [sailmail.com] or Winlink [winlink.org] ) because it's cheap and relatively reliable. Of course, "reliable" in this context means that depending on the HF propagation conditions you can probably get an email message out sometime that day. And you are limited to short, text-only messages. Still, these days you can update blogs, Facebook, etc. via email...

Other systems like Ocens [ocens.com] are also available for email via Iridium.

After that, if you are offshore and away from GSM coverage, you start talking about real bucks. Inmarsat is the most common. Iridium, Inmarsat, Globalstar, etc. all pretty much have two things in common - they are slow compared to land-based systems and they bill by the bit.. a lot. Streaming video and surfing Spring Break Girls Gone Wild is probably not in the cards. Hell, even checking a webmail email account is not really feasible unless you are Carlos Slim and own a telephone company.

So, that's a long way of getting around to saying this: In the past 10 years, not a lot has changed. Inshore, close to cell coverage, you can do very well. Offshore, you are still pretty much stuck with the same old systems that were in place 10 years ago, only now they are more expensive. Oh, and in the case of Globalstar, they are also less reliable now.

reminds me of the SO question... (1)

csrjjsmp (819838) | about 4 years ago | (#32950094)

Do you also have a cat named Ender?

fiberclass, of course (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#32950118)

Just hook up to one of the many fiberclass cables on the sea floor.

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