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The Hell Known As Internet Screening Services

Soulskill posted more than 4 years ago | from the men-who-stare-at-goatse dept.

The Internet 557

circletimessquare writes "Do you think your job is bad? Some websites outsource their moderation to firms where every work day, all work day, workers do nothing but sift through depravity after depravity. '"You have 20-year-old kids who get hired to do content review, and who get excited because they think they are going to see adult porn," said Hemanshu Nigam, the former chief security officer at MySpace. "They have no idea that some of the despicable and illegal images they will see can haunt them for the rest of their lives."' Some places only do year-long contracts, and have counseling services and staff psychologists, because of the psychological issues caused by this kind of work. One psychologist 'reached some unsettling conclusions in her interviews with content moderators. She said they were likely to become depressed or angry, have trouble forming relationships and suffer from decreased sexual appetites. Small percentages said they had reacted to unpleasant images by vomiting or crying. "The images interfere with their thinking processes. It messes up the way you react to your partner," Ms. Laperal said. "If you work with garbage, you will get dirty."'"

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solution: (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32954596)

hire via 4chan?

Re:solution: (4, Insightful)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954608)

That's no good, they won't filter anything.

Re:solution: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32954634)

and what's the problem with that?

Re:solution: (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32954660)

Oh, they'll filter alright. Just the other way around.

Re:solution: (5, Interesting)

robnsara (135532) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955222)

Oh, they'll filter alright. Just the other way around.

Actually, a better solution: Just upload EVERYTHING to /b/. If it gets reposted by anonymous, automatically add it to a filter list. That way you don't have to pay people to do the work. This reverse-filter idea is a good one!

Re:solution: (1)

kill-1 (36256) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954784)

Hire surgeons?

Re:solution: (1)

Singularity42 (1658297) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954806)

What does this have to do with golf?

Re:solution: (2, Insightful)

stonewallred (1465497) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954868)

Seems like the best place IMNSHO. Of course they would have to work nude and searched before leaving each day, because if not, you could count on the best 10% of CP, gore and other fucked up shit would immediately hit /b/ within 30 minutes of them leaving work. I'd do the job, especially if I could work from home. Easy work, easy money, and the money would feed my alcoholism and drug addiction. And give me an excuse for why I drink and drug.

Re:solution: (5, Insightful)

couchslug (175151) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955166)

The grain of truth is that there are plenty of people who can watch anything and laugh about it, while functioning just fine and having no emotional problems from doing so.

Overly sensitive people shouldn't mess with shit that will damage them.

Not everyone is sensitive, and not everyone has to "suppress" themselves to cope with seeing Bad Things.

Here's the thing (1)

paiute (550198) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954600)

Just get rotten.com to run a banner ad for these positions. Anyone who has ever been to that site is inured to anything anyone could post to MySpace.

Re:Here's the thing (-1, Flamebait)

improfane (855034) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954692)

I wish someone would take rotten.com down.

People should NOT be able to see that stuff. I remember a long time ago when it was popular among kids.

The world would be a little less screwed up if stuff like that was less available.

Re:Here's the thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32954798)

Hitler lives.

Re:Here's the thing (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955010)

Umm... If Hitler had to face Rotten.com, he would be deeply confused. He would be submitting half the stuff, and banning the other half as decadent...

Re:Here's the thing (1)

Utini420 (444935) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954804)

Interesting comment, improfane. If we're going to start setting bars, who gets to place them?

Re:Here's the thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32954830)

So you're saying people shouldnt be allowed to see the truth?
Yes, filter everything and live your fine life.. in china.

Re:Here's the thing (5, Insightful)

g0bshiTe (596213) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954922)

Say what you will about rotten.com needing to go away, I think it needs to stick around, I think depicting the finality of death and how grotesque it really is may cause some children to make better choices, "maybe playing with dad's gun is a bad idea", "maybe jumping onto moving trains is a bad idea". Everyone in the world dies, Americans just seem to be the only country that likes to shelter their kids from death.

Re:Here's the thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32954932)

Excellent thinking. There should be laws that prohibit people from watching, for example, the atrocities of war, concentration camps etc. Come to think of it, those with too vivid an imagination should probably be refrained from reading about it.

Re:Here's the thing (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32954936)

Yup.

Rotten.com reminds me of contemporary/postmodern art. People who work in that idiom spend all their time exhibiting crap, asking 'is this art'? It's high time we as a society said 'no, it's not, shut up and stop calling yourself and artist'.

Rotten.com puts horrible, awful images for the public to view, and asks 'shouldn't free speech include _this_?'. We should answer: no. There's no sane reason why anyone would want to see those images unless they work as medical examiners or in funeral parlors. Allowing rotten.com normalizes disturbed behavior and gives psychos comfort. Close it down.

Re:Here's the thing (1)

TheMeuge (645043) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955178)

I disagree. Occasionally I wonder over to that website, and it makes me remember why I am a human being, why I love the people I love, and how life is fragile and must be both enjoyed and protected.

Also, knowledge is NEVER harmful, unless it's used to harm.

Re:Here's the thing (1)

Pinky's Brain (1158667) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955272)

I don't think that question is accurate, it includes it by definition.

Is free speech worth having rotten.com out there?

Re:Here's the thing (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32954992)

Please. There are images of sick shit out there because sick shit happens in the world. And most of what's on Rotten.com is little more than occasionally shocking ... gory injuries and deaths, oh no. Nothing compared to some of the shit that's out there.

Re:Here's the thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32955002)

The world would be a little less screwed up if stuff like that was less available.

The world would be a *lot* less screwed up with one less wanna-be censor on it. Have you considered trying Shotgun Mouthwash?

Even better, find a bunch of people that also think keeping "bad things" away from the internet is their responsibility and give them *all* a taste before you try it yourself.

Re:Here's the thing (1)

Fuzzums (250400) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955120)

totally forgot about that site. "thanks" for keeping the memory alive. ;)

Re:Here's the thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32955156)

needz moar QQ

captcha: miseries

Re:Here's the thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32955168)

I wish someone would lock-up all the cry babies that can't handle freedom.

Re:Here's the thing (1)

Merls the Sneaky (1031058) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955226)

Who the fuck are you, Stephen Conroy? Seeing fucked up shit re minds us of how fucked up the world really is. If you want to bury your head in the sand then I suggest disconnecting your internet and taking your PC in the back yard and bury it six feet down.

Re:Here's the thing (3, Insightful)

JWSmythe (446288) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955228)

    There's a little phrase at the core of the American society. "Freedom of speech". You might be familiar with it.

    When any person or group has the ability to make decisions on what the whole of society can say or read, it brings an end to our liberties. Just because you don't believe Rotten.com should be up doesn't mean that there aren't others who appreciate it. I don't like seeing mythology based rantings which are frequently misrepresented as factual historical accounts or a basis for modern life (i.e., religion for those who didn't catch that). The difference is, if anyone made a move to censor their speech, I would defend their right to say it, even if I disagree with every word they say.

    If a person, group, or even mob rule were to guide censorship, virtually everything would be censored.

    The stuff on rotten.com really isn't bad. It seems bad, because you have likely been protected from it your whole life. It's not necessary to see such things, but there are people world wide who see first hand the reality of what is portrayed in those images. For every picture they post, there was at least one witness, the photographer.

Re:Here's the thing (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32954802)

Oh, come on. Rotten isn't actually bad.

Rotten displays very candid pictures that you won't see in the mainstream media; things like terrible gunshot wounds, accidents, strange medical cases and so on. They're candid, and they're shocking, but they're not disturbing, at least once you've seen a couple and have gotten used to seeing things you don't usually see in our society.

Disturbing is something else. Have you ever seen a video of a puppy getting tortured and killed slowly, for instance? Even if you can't actually see much, it's horrifying. In fact, it's horrifying precisely WHEN you can't see anything, because between the frenzied howls of pain and anguish, your mind fills in the blanks of what must be happening, and you're powerless - absolutely powerless! - to stop the whole thing. You don't know who's doing it, you don't know where they are, you don't know anything. The only thing you know is that the moment you're watching it, the puppy already HAS died a horrible, painful, slow death, and even if they catch the guy who did it, the events in the video can't be undone or prevented anymore.

THAT is disturbing.

It's something that happens for police officers, too, BTW; those who're working on serial killer/rape/... cases will often need psychologica help after reviewing photographs and videos and so on.

And these are trained professionals who're only doing it *sometimes*, as part of their job, and they're officers who've already seen a lot, who're older and have already got more life experience and so on.

Can you imagine being a 20-year old who's doing NOTHING ELSE but review things like that, eight hours a day, five days a week, for an entire year or more?

It's gonna mess you up something bad. And rotten? Rotten doesn't even begin to compare to it. Rotten is harmless.

as they say (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32954614)

what has been seen, cannot be unseen.

4chan (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32954620)

So it's like getting paid to browse /b/?

Re:4chan (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32954876)

took the words right out of my mouth

Re:4chan (3, Funny)

sznupi (719324) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955060)

"Words", eh?

Re:4chan (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32955148)

First, stop breaking rule #1, and don't tell me it only applies to raids.... second, triforce... NOW.

Re:4chan (1)

Icegryphon (715550) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955150)

Would you really want to pay /b/tards.
Giving them money is just asking for trouble.
They might blow up a yellow van or something.
repeatedly [youtube.com]

/.ers (4, Funny)

TheMeuge (645043) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954632)

workers do nothing but sift through depravity after depravity

I thought that was the definition of "browsing the Internet".

yup. (4, Insightful)

ak_hepcat (468765) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954638)

I've done this as an Information Security person. Get a report, validate, pass it on to the cops and FBI.

Not fun at all.

Glad it's 10 years behind me.

Re:yup. (1)

jaygatsby27 (894445) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954710)

What kind of stuff are you talking about. i used to have to process evidence for attorneys and that was downright depressing.

Hell (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32954662)

...is other people.

Goatse Posters (3, Insightful)

Caball (58351) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954668)

Hope all you bastards are happy. First time I saw that image, I had nightmares for a month.

Re:Goatse Posters (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32954818)

Without reading your comment, I got the impression from your subject that you were selling something. Now that, I thought, is truly depraved.

Re:Goatse Posters (4, Insightful)

PhxBlue (562201) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954834)

Hope all you bastards are happy. First time I saw that image, I had nightmares for a month.

And how frequently do you click on random URLs from people you don't know now that you've had that experience?

Re:Goatse Posters (2, Funny)

Scrameustache (459504) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954984)

Hope all you bastards are happy. First time I saw that image, I had nightmares for a month.

And how frequently do you click on random URLs from people you don't know now that you've had that experience?

All. day. long! :'(

Re:Goatse Posters (1)

DeadDecoy (877617) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954842)

You are travelling down a long, dark corridor.
You have been eaten by a grue.

Re:Goatse Posters (1)

noidentity (188756) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954864)

Sorry, tubgirl is easily the worst of the big three *shudder*.

Re:Goatse Posters (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32955000)

Says the man who presumably hasn't seen "two girls one cup" yet....

Re:Goatse Posters (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32955070)

What's the third of the Big Three? Lemonparty?

Haven't you heard (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32955202)

The bird [rotten.com] is the word?

Re:Goatse Posters (2, Informative)

ThatMegathronDude (1189203) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955182)

One guy, one jar. There is little that tops it.

Re:Goatse Posters (1)

jfoobaz (1844794) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954940)

No offense, but if that's all it took, you're pretty weak.

Seriously, though, check go check out some medical textbooks. I remember looking through this one on oral medicine when I was a kid; some of the shit that can happen to your face as the result of untreated facial infections, or cancer, or hundreds of other problems is deeply terrifying.

Re:Goatse Posters (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955112)

Perusal of medical textbooks really makes one wonder how "natural theologians" ever lasted as long as they did, as an intellectual movement...

Re:Goatse Posters (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32954974)

Really? That was the first shock site I ever saw. I was like "ew why would someone send me this," and closed it.

Re:Goatse Posters (1)

headonfire (160408) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955024)

if that's the worst you've seen, you must be new here.

the internet is a terrifying place sometimes.

Re:Goatse Posters (1)

couchslug (175151) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955036)

"Hope all you bastards are happy. First time I saw that image, I had nightmares for a month."

From the right angle, he kinda looks like my Dad.

Who Knew (-1, Offtopic)

Herkum01 (592704) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954684)

That it could be so bad here! I guess that is why they keep KDawson, they cannot find a replacement!

Grown men crying like babies? (2, Interesting)

nanoakron (234907) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954694)

4chan'll do that to you...

Re:Grown men crying like babies? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32954826)

The people saying hiring from 4chan are right.

Not everyone is comfortable looking at all images, but if you actually like 4chan enough to have moderated there, then nothing bothers you much.

The fact is, for most people it doesn't take long to get to the point where pictures don't bother you.

After all, the spotty 13 year old who's posting a picture of a gruesome car accident didn't actually run anyone over, he's just a bored adolescent trying to shock someone. That will be a constant in life forever, why should it bother you?

Ha... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32954716)

Apparently none of these guys have ever been to /ebaumsworld/ .

Pussies (0, Troll)

alexborges (313924) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954732)

I mean, i've seen my share of ugly shit in the net. I do think that i've seen most of the worse it has to offer. I mean REALLY? Are there people out there that will get all fucked up because of goatse?

Has this people ever seen Benneton's magazzine War issue? Have they seen the news?

The world is ugly. Believeing otherwise, makes you neurotic.

Re:Pussies (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32954840)

A lot of the crap they have to witness makes goatse look tame. Sure you've probably seen some nasty shit in your adventures on the net, but imagine having to filter through images of rape, horrifying gore, pronography, child pornography and more for 8 hours a day. It's all out there, and that's going to mess with you at least a little bit.

Re:Pussies (3, Insightful)

Manfre (631065) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954882)

Occasionally seeing disturbing images is not a problem for most people, but if you spend 40 hours a week, every week, looking at all sorts of disturbing crap, your mind will become twisted.

Re:Pussies (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32955138)

I had to manually sort through a spam filter once for a few months because of some false positives, and just the subject lines made me lose sleep.

I'm not anti-porn, but man, there are some people in the world who are messed up in ways you can't imagine, trust me, there are sub-sub-genre's of porn you can't believe anyone would ever want to see let alone even think of let alone even capture on film somehow.

It changes you a little bit once you realize there are people like living in the same world as you.

Re:Pussies (3, Insightful)

Aphoxema (1088507) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955188)

Occasionally seeing disturbing images is not a problem for most people, but if you spend 40 hours a week, every week, looking at all sorts of disturbing crap, your mind will become twisted.

I think just about anyone could handle seeing someone after a "BOOM HEADSHOT" or one of those other things we take lightly in so-called "violent video games". It's easy to say "It's not me, it's not someone I know" or anything else we tell ourselves.

After seeing it over and over, though, you start to wonder what if it were you or someone you knew. You start immersing yourself in possibilities like we're programmed to, rehearsing the situation in case you ever had to face it. You start living life making sure it doesn't happen to you, watching out for attackers, people out to hurt your family, people out to rape your children. You start to worry about yourself, wondering if another human being did it so can you... because you can't tell yourself to be cruel is inhuman anymore.

When you're immersed in the worst the killer instinct kicks in. Not the Counter Strike bullshit, not that stuff you see in the movies where there's a cause or justification, everything loses intrinsic value, every life but your own loses meaning. It's all about you and surviving.

After that it takes years to fit back in, but it'll never be a perfect fit.

Plenty of evil out there... (4, Insightful)

sirwired (27582) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954886)

Being forced to look at kiddie porn as part of your job could really mess you up. Looking at pictures of gory violence, torture, and abuse of all kinds, all day, day after day... I'd say that would mess somebody up far more than occasional crap coming up during web browsing.

Re:Plenty of evil out there... (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32954980)

Being forced to look at kiddie porn as part of your job could really mess you up. ...

By that do you mean you might have to admit to yourself that you're a pedophile?

Re:Plenty of evil out there... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32955152)

Visit /b/ on 4chan and think of it as pre-employment screening.

Re:Pussies (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32954960)

I think some of the stuff out there can make goatse look like a birthday cake.

I only know of goatse cause some idiot put it on wikipedia. At least that picture involves an adult. That makes it disturbing but also funny.

Re:Pussies (5, Insightful)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955266)

I mean, i've seen my share of ugly shit in the net. I do think that i've seen most of the worse it has to offer. I mean REALLY? Are there people out there that will get all fucked up because of goatse?

I think it's safe to say that if you think Goatse is even close to the bad things on the internet*, or that you think that the worst stuff you've seen wouldn't mess someone up, than you have not at all seen the worst the internet has to offer.

The world is MUCH uglier than what any publication shows. ANY.

*On a scale of -10 to 10 (0 being neutral, 10 being awesome and -10 being disturbing) Goatse Ranks a -2. You don't even breach -5 until you see the involuntary stuff. Where people are tied up and forced into terrible acts of sexual abuse and mutilation. Then you see the same thing happen to children. A man's anus pales in comparison.

Words of Wisdom: (5, Funny)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954738)

As the great Jello Biafra once said: "Want to see child porn? Join the vice squad."

Uhm. (-1, Redundant)

yeesh (1811028) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954758)

People get paid to do that? I want that job.

Is it just me... (1, Insightful)

kryptKnight (698857) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954794)

Is it just me, or does the summary give no indication of what the article is about? And on top of that I can't even RTFA without registering. This is retarded.

It's just you (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32955014)

Judging by the other posts, it seems most readers had no problem understanding the summary.

i wrote the summary (2, Informative)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955170)

i was preparing to apologize for a lack of clarity in the summary, but, on further review, sorry, it really is just you

I notice with interest (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32954810)

I notice with interest the posters of "can it really be that bad?" type of comments.

It can.

I spent some years handling abuse@ for a national-sized ISP that allowed "homepages" via dialin. Let's just say that I had severe temper-issues for a long while after that.

NYTimes subscription ... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32954814)

Will the mods stop posting stories where the only link is into the fucking NYTimes paywall?

Seriously, if you can't provide a valid link, don't submit the damned thing.

Re:NYTimes subscription ... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32955084)

Not paywalled here:
Ricky Bess spends eight hours a day in front of a computer near Orlando, Fla., viewing some of the worst depravities harbored on the Internet. He has seen photographs of graphic gang killings, animal abuse and twisted forms of pornography. One recent sighting was a photo of two teenage boys gleefully pointing guns at another boy, who is crying.

Ricky Bess works near Orlando, Fla., and says workers are affected by the images they must view day after day.
An Internet content reviewer, Mr. Bess sifts through photographs that people upload to a big social networking site and keeps the illicit material — and there is plenty of it — from being posted. His is an obscure job that is repeated thousands of times over, from office parks in suburban Florida to outsourcing hubs like the Philippines.

Re:NYTimes subscription ... (1)

couchslug (175151) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955092)

"Will the mods stop posting stories where the only link is into the fucking NYTimes paywall?"

Just grab a password off Bugmenot. Who actually pays for pay sites?

Re:NYTimes subscription ... (1, Informative)

stonewallred (1465497) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955246)

I did not see a paywall. And I am not a registered subscriber or user. Maybe you are an idiot?

Dirty Jobs episode? (5, Funny)

BigDXLT (1218924) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954820)

I'd like to see Mike spend a day cleaning up the interwebs!

Re:Dirty Jobs episode? (3, Funny)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954914)

"It's a dirty job but someone's gotta do it. Whoa-oh-oh-OH-oh."

[[ cut to Mike in front of a web browser, screen not visible ]]

[click]
"Oh, God!"
[click]
"Oh, God!"
[click]
"Oh, God!"
[click]
"Oh, God!"
[click]
"Oh, God!"
[[ commercial break ]]
[[repeat]

Re:Dirty Jobs episode? (3, Informative)

MBCook (132727) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955268)

Heh. Because watching Mike sitting in front of a monitor all day, with his brand of narration/commentary, on a bunch of stuff that Discovery can't show or even possibly talk about given the subject matter and their audience would be great to watch.

That wouldn't make for very good TV.

I'm sure it's a dirty job (I certainly wouldn't want to do it), but I'd imagine there are quite a few dirty jobs that Discovery just wouldn't be willing to air. Heck, they've aired some stuff (like the episode where he castrates goats) that I couldn't believe they aired.

GOAT.CX anyone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32954822)

Thanks, slashdot! YOU REALLY fucked me up with that one!

Pics (-1, Redundant)

Hel Toupee (738061) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954824)

Pics or it didn't happen?

20 year old kids ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32954854)

well there's your problem, hiring young inexperienced and impressionable people (enough to need counselling) to sift through internet trash ?

perhaps hiring pensioners/vets would be a better option

Re:20 year old kids ? (2, Funny)

pinkj (521155) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954996)

Or get a braille screen and hire blind people.

Filter it out! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32954900)

Not every one will see the analogy here, but here goes,

I remember some moron saying about email spam that we should just "filter it out" of our minds. I remember a reply that the people spending time and effort to "filter out" this spam may be the treating physician for his mother in the ER the next day, and that that Doctor will be less prepared cause he had to spend some time sorting out spam and filtering it out of his mind. So spam will come back an bite his mother in the ass...

Why don't they do the same here? Just "filter it out"!

Some jobs result in more risk / effort. Unfortunately most people do not get compensated adequately nor are warned about the consequences of their efforts. Most people, just like the above mentioned moron (spam advocate), do not care that we spend time and effort to get rid of the spam. As long as people prioritize financial benefit to basic common sense issues, we will see a lot of these problems ranging from time wasted on spam (unpaid time) to consequences of job related work like these screening services.

I have to do this sometimes... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32954924)

Occasionally I have to support our content moderators. By five minutes into the training, you realize that is not a fun job... occasionally they'll have trouble with the software, and this entails tracking down images that they need to report to the FBI-- kid porn, Nazi/KKK stuff (which would knock out half the programming on the History Channel, but that's the policy). Pisses me off to to have to deal with that, but at least some of them get caught. And it's pretty obvious it'd be damaging to watch that stuff all the time. Most of it is just shots of naked people nobody would ever want to see naked, but a rather large chunk is worse.

As for the the cp, the people who want to do that for a living, and who do it every day... let's just say I'm not surprised to read so many stories about cops and counselors who specialize in those areas molesting kids. Do NOT leave your kids alone with a sex cop.

wtf (1)

JeanBaptiste (537955) | more than 4 years ago | (#32954978)

She said they were likely to become depressed or angry, have trouble forming relationships and suffer from decreased sexual appetites. Small percentages said they had reacted to unpleasant images by vomiting or crying. "The images interfere with their thinking processes. It messes up the way you react to your partner," Ms. Laperal said. "If you work with garbage, you will get dirty."

That's me now, and I'm not getting paid. =(

Re:wtf (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32955130)

My reaction was: they're just blaming the problems they already have or were going to get anyway on their jobs.

Re:wtf (1)

boneclinkz (1284458) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955154)

She said they were likely to become depressed or angry, have trouble forming relationships and suffer from decreased sexual appetites. Small percentages said they had reacted to unpleasant images by vomiting or crying.

That's me now, and I'm not getting paid. =(

Yeah, replace "unpleasant images" with "401k statements."

Definitely need some automated system for this (1)

parallel_prankster (1455313) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955072)

This is exactly the kind of stuff you need bots for. Some kind of picture recognition algorithm is needed that can at least weed out the ones that are obviously gruesome or twisted ( with no false positives etc) and then some of the ones where the machines cannot make a decision, can be sent to the humans to look. At least that will reduce the burden on these poor employees! Hope their insurance is really good !

Re:Definitely need some automated system for this (1)

TheMeuge (645043) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955234)

with no false positives etc)

Any AI that was that capable would eliminate humans as a distraction very fast.

Depravity Diet? (0)

mpapet (761907) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955146)

I've wondered for a long time if the exposure to mass media entertainment has the same effect.

Anecdote: I took a break from watching most TV. When I did watch, I restricted my viewing to a very low-fi 10" tv, far away from me. When we got a much bigger screen, I found I developed a different awareness of what the TV was doing to me. Briefly, I did not feel entertained. I felt tired kind of like the let-down after a roller-coaster ride, but not entertained. News programmes were totally irrelevant too. My interactions with people changed for the worse too.

Any new parents reading this, I/we did it when our kid was tiny. We kept the 10" in a cabinet, out of site and watched after the kid was asleep. The TV as a baby sitter was too tempting. Is she 'better off' as a result? I don't know. I think it makes for much better family bonds.

Cause and effect? (5, Insightful)

MSBob (307239) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955158)

What if we turn this around and consider that maybe those who apply for jobs to screen the internet already have an unhealthy fascination with weird and/or illegal content? Maybe the post-contract counseling only reveals all the issues they harbored prior to starting the work?

I'm not saying this is the case, but it's a possibility...

I used to be a content moderator (3, Funny)

ILuvRamen (1026668) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955160)

I used to be a content moderator for ehow.com, a demand media subsidiary. Luckily all I had to do was sort out the bad user articles that weren't up to their quality standard. I came across some oddly disturbing stuff but at least it was only text. I definitely now have it embedded in my mind though that 99% of people can't write an article properly to save their own life and most Americans are degenerate mutant freaks who need to go back to school to learn basic grammar and spelling skills but other than that, I came out of it perfectly sane lol.

But it is just porn. (1)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955190)

How can pictures harm you? I mean really it is just Porn....
Maybe it isn't all that harmless?

I wonder how these guys relax after work (2, Interesting)

arkham6 (24514) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955210)

Maybe a nice soothing viewing of the human centipede?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_centipede

(warning, even reading the description will make you reach for the brain bleach)

Incongruity (5, Insightful)

macemoneta (154740) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955224)

The problem for many people is the incongruity between how they were raised and reality. People are generally raised to believe that people are good, that there are norms of behavior, there is justice in the world, authority figures can be trusted, things happen for reason and are overseen by an omnipotent deity. As we grow up, we learn that these are simply convenient lies that define our society.

When presented with conflicting visual evidence, we can be shocked and damaged - our world view is broken. Some go into denial (classifying the content as depravity), and some go into depression (recognizing that society is simply a veneer). Education and experience over time tends to break these falsehoods more gently, incrementally. The Internet is not so gentle.

I have read far worse than I have seen (1)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955232)

and some of it is on mainstream sites. Why pictures and video may be more in your face text can be just as bad. Worse while not law breaking the amount of hate espoused and condoned on some sites boggles the mind. The problem is many of these site moderators hold particular views and see no reason to affect change in their enlightened views all the while not realizing the amount of traffic lost because of it.

I gave up reading some Mac centric sites simply because of the bashing that goes on in their open forums (usually political and the like). I know, "but don't read these". Well there are many conversations that I do want to participate in, however getting past the tripe that lands in even these legitimate threads gets tiresome. Worse is when the site treats one type of speech offensive versus another where both are hateful.

No, I don't think I would want to do either job. I get annoyed enough at some sites as it is, I cannot imagine having to do it purposefully.

Dumbasses (4, Insightful)

MikeRT (947531) | more than 4 years ago | (#32955248)

These are probably the same guys who, in high school, thought it would kick ass to be a Gynecologist. It never seemed to enter their heads that if a woman is paying them to check out her vagina, chances are... it's because of something a typical man would never want to see...

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