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Video Game Legends To Be Inducted Into Hall of Fame

Soulskill posted more than 4 years ago | from the fierce-competition-between-tetrominoes dept.

Classic Games (Games) 94

killdashnine writes "Last year we discussed the creation of the International Video Game Hall of Fame and Museum in Ottumwa, Iowa, and a first event in 2009 which brought 3,500 people to witness it. Since then, there's been much progress toward creation of the museum, including the upcoming 'Big Bang 2010' exhibition. Their first event kicks off with formal induction ceremonies, tournaments, record-setting attempts, and an array of concerts from 8-bit music to modern rock. This serves as the first official fundraiser for this new non-profit. Iowa is positioning itself as the Video Game Capital of the World. While some sneer and scoff at this, pointing to LA or Seattle as gaming giants and rightful heirs to the title, the real goal is not to glorify software developers but rather to memorialize the 'heroes of video games,' from the iconic Pac Man to pioneers such as Ralph Baer." Here's a list of this year's inductees. Who gets your vote for next year?

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Plus Key Switch (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32974328)

No Yokoi [wikipedia.org] ? Blasphemy!

Re:Plus Key Switch (followup, more hubris) (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32974370)

Without Gunpei Yokoi there would be no "Plus Switch" (originated on his Game and Watch), no Metroid, no Donkey Kong, no Mario, no Game Boy, no Virtual Boy, and likely Shigeru Miyamoto would never have created Super Mario Bros. or Zelda. Nintendo most likely would not have had enough excellent games to break into the North American market in the mid 80s (or even have ever gotten into the home console market), and quite possibly the crash of 1983 [wikipedia.org] would have been permanent, leaving only PC games in the market. Possibly Sega would have dominated Japan, or possibly they would never have been inspired to actually try. The gaming world would have turned out very differently.

Re:Plus Key Switch (followup, more hubris) (0, Flamebait)

jaxtherat (1165473) | more than 4 years ago | (#32974464)

and quite possibly the crash of 1983 [wikipedia.org] would have been permanent, leaving only PC games in the market.

And nothing of value would have been lost.

Re:Plus Key Switch (followup, more hubris) (1)

Yamata no Orochi (1626135) | more than 4 years ago | (#32976580)

And nothing of value would have been lost.

That's a bit of a stretch. This last generation could have not existed, but most of the consoles before that were glorious in their own rights.

Re:Plus Key Switch (followup, more hubris) (1)

jaxtherat (1165473) | more than 4 years ago | (#32985558)

I'm more implying that the real innovations in gaming as a serious medium of artistic expression and gameplay variations (as opposed to arcade games, which are designed to be nothing more than puerile and addictive shallow entertainment) occurred on the PC; here is a small list of genre launching/breakthrough games:

Civilisation
Railroad Tycoon
Wolf 3D
Elite
Doom
Daggerfall
SimCity
Fallout
XCOM
Dune 2
Flight Simulator

I could go on. Apart from platformers and JRPGs, any games that now matter have their roots in PC gaming.

Re:Plus Key Switch (followup, more hubris) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32980254)

Really? Without him, NO plus switch? Come on, it was inevitable. If not him, then someone would have. You might as well say without Edison there'd be no light bulbs... just because someone was first doesn't mean they are the ONLY person in history who was capable of the innovation.

Re:Plus Key Switch (1)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | more than 4 years ago | (#32975114)

I just checked the Concert page. They've not listed Machinae Supremacy [machinaesupremacy.com] either.

Why they should be on the concert list [youtube.com] - The video is fan-made, and sucks.

Re:Plus Key Switch (1)

Kayhynn (1683078) | more than 4 years ago | (#32978572)

You do realize you have to pay people to perform? We were unable to get many bands to come and perform. Sorry.

International? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32974348)

The inductees so far seem to favor the US.

Only two from Japan and none from anyplace else, as far as I can see. It reads more like a "well-known people who are expected to be inducted into any such list" compilation rather than an award of merit. Not saying they don't have the merit to be on such a list - just that they clearly are on the list because of how well-known, merit notwithstanding).

Certainly, a huge amount of early work did take place in the US; but they are nominating a lot of much more recent contributors.

Just an observation.

Re:International? (1)

gravos (912628) | more than 4 years ago | (#32974756)

It reads more like a "well-known people who are expected to be inducted into any such list" compilation rather than an award of merit.

Hmm... So just like the Nobel Laureates list, then?

Oh... Carry on.

Did I miss something? (4, Insightful)

Nemyst (1383049) | more than 4 years ago | (#32974350)

Why is half the list consisting of "champions" when there isn't even a mention of such names as Sid Meier, Will Wright, Gabe Newell, Richard Garriott or John Carmack? I couldn't find any other list, so I must assume this is the first one, right?

Re:Did I miss something? (1)

Concerned Onlooker (473481) | more than 4 years ago | (#32974362)

You left out Radar O'Reilly.

Re:Did I miss something? (3, Funny)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 4 years ago | (#32974436)

You left out Radar O'Reilly.

You just didn't scroll down enough. He was on #4077 on the list.

Re:Did I miss something? (1)

An ominous Cow art (320322) | more than 4 years ago | (#32978432)

Nice. :-)

But, quoting the website:

And, if you think that someone is missing -- someone who absolutely deserves to be inducted into the IVGHOF, but is not on this list, you are right! This process is just beginning and we plan on bestowing the highest honors on every individual or organization who has contributed to the success or enrichment of the worldwide video game industry. Unfortunately, everybody can't be inducted in a single year, so we ask for everyone's patience as we move through this first year and work to establish the IVGHOF as the cultural crossroads of the video game age.

Re:Did I miss something? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32974382)

This list is for people who are good at playing video games, not making them.

Re:Did I miss something? (1)

Nemyst (1383049) | more than 4 years ago | (#32974486)

I've read "heroes of videogames". To me, developers are the heroes. I think everybody would agree; how otherwise could anybody become a "champion" if no videogame was ever made?

Re:Did I miss something? (1)

MoFoQ (584566) | more than 4 years ago | (#32974608)

what about the beta testers?

Re:Did I miss something? (3, Funny)

Killian35 (1321571) | more than 4 years ago | (#32974784)

They're just a bunch of grandma's boys.

Re:Did I miss something? (1)

MoFoQ (584566) | more than 4 years ago | (#32974604)

my thoughts exactly...
yet...."fatal1ty" is on the list....WTF.
shoot....the fictional characters from Penny Arcade would be better....or even what's-his-face from firingsquad.com....or Duke Nukem....or...Gordon Freeman.
it would at least make sense....

Re:Did I miss something? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32976048)

I'm guessing the developer list has something to do with corporate donations. 3x people from the Xbox design team, and as you say none of the hugely influential developers.

Re:Did I miss something? (1)

ImprovOmega (744717) | more than 4 years ago | (#32977474)

I agree, any list without John Carmack on it is meaningless. At least they got Shigeru Miyamoto, but what about Nobuo Uematsu (Final Fantasy composer)? I mean, he's half the reason that all Final Fantasy games are distinctly Final Fantasy games. One of the longest running franchises in video game history, 1987-present, with 13 main titles spanning 5 major console systems. The guy's work is epic.

Re:Did I miss something? (3, Informative)

Spyware23 (1260322) | more than 4 years ago | (#32978254)

http://www.ivghof.com/media-and-sponsors/our-official-media-partners [ivghof.com]

Scroll down, take notice of the sponsors. The list contains, among others, Walmart, Xbox 360 (yes, the name of the console, not the company), Gamestop and Alienware (Dell).

Dirty little fucking companies at it again. Skewing results, steering votes. Eugh.

Re:Did I miss something? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32985052)

If you did any research, you would know that the inductees were chosen over a year ago, before any plans for the Big Bang event were made. How does that allow them to skew anything?

Re:Did I miss something? (1)

Spyware23 (1260322) | more than 4 years ago | (#32985194)

Tinfoil hat mode. I'm not even kidding, I have nothing but my suspicion.

Re:Did I miss something? (1)

Droideka-TheGuy (1482159) | more than 4 years ago | (#32986420)

Not to mention the handful of excellent designers from Ensemble Studios. Please, a moment of silence in remembrance of the now closed company.

What a waste of time. Totally and utterly WRONG. (1)

adamofgreyskull (640712) | more than 4 years ago | (#32986632)

Pretty sure it's the first. And yes, the list is complete and utter wank. There are only a few who deserve to be on that list and the only one on the list that stands out (and who would be on my list of potential inductees), Shigeru Miyamoto. Nolan Bushnell, Ralph Baer and the founder of NAMCO, are all industry pioneers who have earnt a place on the list. I might...MIGHT...even go so far as to say that Jonathon "Fatal1ty" Wendel isn't *that* out of place considering how well known he is and how he was one of the best known gamers at a time when competitive gaming was taking off, just look at all the products named after him. But trawling the past for the champion of "Berzerk"...WTF?

John Carmack, Tom Hall, American McGee, John Romero, Sandy Petersen, Gabe Newell, Alexey Pajitnov, Sid Meier, Richard Garriott and Will Wright all deserve to be honoured on that list, but I doubt that will happen while Microsoft is stacking the votes. Who the hell has ever heard of either of the XBox design team members on the list? I thought it was called a hall of *FAME*?

Oh well...I'm really good at playing Led Zeppelin on my CD player, so maybe I can get inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Strange (1)

ceraphis (1611217) | more than 4 years ago | (#32974360)

It's fine if they want to induct mainly people into the "Hall of Fame" as it were, but why does Pac-Man get the sole video game induction? I don't doubt the effect Pac Man has had over the years but surely some other games deserve mention if even ONE game gets the nod.

Why is Miyamoto listed as "creator of Donkey Kong"? Surely he is well known for MUCH MUCH more than just donkey kong, it's as if they treat him as some obscure programmer when everyone knows he's much more than that.

Re:Strange (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 4 years ago | (#32974446)

It would appear as the answer to both your questions is along the lines of how long and how big of impact those games had. And if that's not a good enough answer then pretend I ended it with "that's what she said!"

Re:Strange (1)

Kayhynn (1683078) | more than 4 years ago | (#32978636)

Could be the fact Pac-Man is 30 years old on top of everything else? As to your other questions, I don't have the answers, but I can try to track them down.

Re:Strange (1)

ceraphis (1611217) | more than 4 years ago | (#32981388)

For some reason when you said "track them down" I imagined you navigating a maze chewing on pellets.

Wait just a damn minute (5, Insightful)

ceraphis (1611217) | more than 4 years ago | (#32974372)

Now this is really bugging me. I like mah xboxes and such, but why is the xbox design team part of this list and not the design team from the many other much more influential consoles than of all things, THE FIRST XBOX?!

Re:Wait just a damn minute (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32974818)

The only rational reason I can think of for the list of names chosen is that there's a fair bit of Microsoft sponsorship money involved. Is there any other possible explanation for choosing all those Microsoft staff and leaving out so many important game developers and designers in favour of them?

Re:Wait just a damn minute (1)

3vi1 (544505) | more than 4 years ago | (#32979966)

I totally agree. Putting the XBox guys on the list completely invalidates it and dilutes any honor associated with the nomination.

I could see adding designers of some classic console hardware... but for the design of the original XBox? No disrespect to Mr. Blackly, but is their a single original coponent to the design? Is borrowing hardware and OS components from existing PCs a revolutionary accomplishment?

If so, why the hell aren't the Colecovision designers on there for their MSX conversion? It was arguably a much greater leap forward for the time.

The sell-outs who put this list together should be ashamed. If I was Nolan Bushnell or one of the other greats, I'd boycott the whole thing.

Ottumwa, Iowa??!? (1)

mbstone (457308) | more than 4 years ago | (#32974394)

You mean if you win the award you have to actually go to Ottumwa? I thought towns with names like that were only found on job postings....

Re:Ottumwa, Iowa??!? (1)

Kayhynn (1683078) | more than 4 years ago | (#32978616)

No. Award recipients who cannot make the trip will be receiving their trophy in the mail. Several individuals are unable to make it, like Ralph Baer, and are recording messages to be played at the event.

I have an idea for the opening ceremony... (4, Funny)

Lord Kano (13027) | more than 4 years ago | (#32974432)

Everybody gathers around, then they all make John Romero their bitch.

LK

Re:I have an idea for the opening ceremony... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32977364)

You and I have very different ideas of fun.

Re:I have an idea for the opening ceremony... (1)

Lord Kano (13027) | more than 4 years ago | (#32985712)

You and I also have very different memories of 90s video game advertising.

LK

Re:I have an idea for the opening ceremony... (1)

Syberz (1170343) | more than 4 years ago | (#32978546)

[...]they all make John Romero their bitch

Hmmm... he's so dreamy with that long hair.
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2000/2/18/ [penny-arcade.com]

Re:I have an idea for the opening ceremony... (2, Funny)

operagost (62405) | more than 4 years ago | (#32979202)

Daikatana. ... ...

ROTFL

Uhm, excuse me, but Romero should be #1. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32984922)

To paraphrase a comparison between Carmack and Romero is a limousine driver to Johny Depp (without that limousine he's just a homeless weirdo on the street that sells pens and pencils like in real-life). That's perhaps the reason why Duke Nukem Forever was started built on Quake1 because of how beautiful of presentation Romero's art appeared through that shitty birth-canal that Carmack mostly wrote for Romero to berth through.

It's necessary comparisons between John Carmack to John Romero that all gamers should lend their soul to comprehend that Carmack has/had a peak talent that only 1 man on earth could make better: that was the art skills of John Romero. Sure, laugh at Romero all you want just because he's not as good a programmer to balance his work (Daikatana). Just remember it was Romero that made everyone forget that Quake1 was a new shitty game engine; because the environment art and sound coordination was that much more jaw-dropping. Just remember that Romero is souly responsible for the beauty that was inspired into Doom that bled into Doom3 and soon-to-be Doom4 after he left the company. All the knock-offs on abysmal horror and grotesque style adapted into many movies was from Romero.

I ask you one last question, and that is: what do you think Diablo3, World of WarCraft, or even StarCraft would have ever looked like if it's very molecular biology was in the dripping-wet hands of John Romero. That's right: Blizzard's crew is Duplo compared to Lego Technick.

You may all whine that it was Romero with an attitude problem that he ran away from Carmack and ID Software, but that's not what a Psychotherapist would say. People like Romero are those fidgity creatures of dark inspiration that needed to be guided towards their work with flashlights shaping the direction where they neeeeed to walk. That's why Romero left. Everyone is too busy staring at the sun in the sky, while poor ol' Romero was ignored that it looks much more beautiful reflected on the moon down to the liefless treeeees that scream the agony of 72 virgins sacrificed on their yew branches blistered and bleach-dried to prunes from the day.

Strange list (3, Insightful)

zr-rifle (677585) | more than 4 years ago | (#32974468)

I don't understand what they're celebrating here, since its got videogame designers, characters and gamers, all on the same list! Also, it says "Class of 2010", but the nominees span more or less 30 years of history.

Anyway, I'd would nominate Rob Hubbard, a brilliant video game musician.

You got the wrong continent (-1, Troll)

toutankh (1544253) | more than 4 years ago | (#32974502)

"While some sneer and scoff at this, pointing to LA or Seattle as gaming giants and rightful heirs to the title"

This reminds me of all these USA-centered Hollywood movies, where aliens always choose some place in the USA to contact the Earth, etc.
The thing is, if such a place should be somewhere, then it should definitely be somewhere in Japan, where pac-man, space invaders, mario, sonic, final fantasy and many more come from.
Of course a lot of great games were later developed in the USA (and in Europe), but well one should be fair to history.

The fact that in the last 10-15 years video games became such a large-scale industry with production processes and budgets similar to movies changed a bit this landscape. There are of course a few already cited pioneers (S. Meier, J. Carmack, J. Mechner) but they are more like exceptions, and they still came much later than the Japanese pioneers.
But mostly and originally, video games come from Japan!
The whole thing sounds a bit like making a sushi hall of fame in LA - of course there exists such a thing as a California maki...

It also sounds a bit like having a gangsta rap hall of fame in Osaka, and I do not doubt that there are Japanese gangsta rappers... Wait, this would actually be awesome, in a kitschy way.

Re:You got the wrong continent (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32974598)

But mostly and originally, video games come from Japan!

Absolutely wrong. A primary example is Atari [Pong if you want a starting point]. The company just sounds Japanese, but was solidly American- as were almost all the producers of the first commercial games. Even the English got into the game before Japan did.

Mind you, the Japanese caught on early and polished things into jewellike luster, much like consumer video and automotive production in the 1970's, and brought brilliant new concepts to the table, but video/computer games were not in any way "mostly and originally" from there.

Re:You got the wrong continent (1)

CronoCloud (590650) | more than 4 years ago | (#32977870)

And with the 32-bit and later systems, the Americans and the English made a comeback. I would say that the Americans and English adapted better to development of 3D polygon based games better than the Japanese did.

Re:You got the wrong continent (1)

Spyware23 (1260322) | more than 4 years ago | (#32978412)

And -I- would say that things like game development (and computer engineering in general) is a global happening. It makes no sense to point out what "Americans" or the "English" did as opposed to "the Japanese". Game companies (and subsequently, games) are build using talent from all over the globe. In one game, your sprites may be American, your music can be Japanese and the code could be African.

Sure, you can point out regional differences in the game market. If you look closer though, you'll see that there's much more cohesion than divisiveness.

Let me explain, if I may; Why Ottumwa, Iowa? (1)

lexsird (1208192) | more than 4 years ago | (#32974794)

At the end of day, it is the players who have decided the fates of games. If a gamer does not play the game, it is gone; a puff of smoke in a breeze. So why not the major cities to place this homage? It is because the pure heart of the players beat not in the hustle and bustle of the city, but in the quiet rural areas. Ottumwa is a mecca of rural areas; the rural areas where the bored farm boy who spent so many countless hours feeding the industry. Think of gamers from the period of infancy of gaming, who were not distracted by the hustle and bustle of the urban sprawls, who could focus on their new found entertainment with a singularity of purpose.

It was those bored rubes feeding rolls of quarters into early video game machines; those uncool masses scattered about the landscape who could be allowed to push the envelope and demand yet more. They were unhampered by the fads of the metropolis, and thus gave what was need the most in the infancy of the gaming industry; they brought their money and they PLAYED.

Behold Ottumwa, Iowa; the City of Bridges. It is a twinkle of a city, but a microcosm of modern civilization in an ocean of wilderness. There it serves as an oasis of sorts for the denizens of the moderately tamed wilds. There, a gamer shall find refuge, supplies and comrades. So there shall be the heart of computer games, and there they shall gather on that river bank. As native Americans gathered there for their games, so shall pioneers of the information and digital age gather with theirs.

That young one, is why.

Re:Let me explain, if I may; Why Ottumwa, Iowa? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32977578)

Or maybe it has something to do with Walter Day claiming it to be the video game capital of the world back in the day.

Sources: King of Kong and Chasing Ghosts: Beyond the Arcade

Whoever wrote the Gerudo's Theme from OOT (1)

grikdog (697841) | more than 4 years ago | (#32974516)

Genius.

Re:Whoever wrote the Gerudo's Theme from OOT (2, Insightful)

Karlprof (993894) | more than 4 years ago | (#32975812)

I think that was Koji Kondo: certainly he was the main composer for Ocarina of Time, as well as most of the other Zelda games. He's also done a lot of composition work for the Super Mario Bros. series. A very talented man!

Huh? (4, Insightful)

AtariKee (455870) | more than 4 years ago | (#32974524)

No Ed Logg [wikipedia.org] . No Ed Rotberg [wikipedia.org] . No Tim Skelly [wikipedia.org] . No Toru Iwatani [wikipedia.org] . No Eugene Jarvis [wikipedia.org] . No FUCKING EUGENE JARVIS?!?!

Instead they honor such douche nozzles as Billy "Kenny Loggins is my long lost dad" Mitchell. Great.

Hall of fames are a joke, just like the lame, political, glad-handing "Rock N Roll" Hall of Fame...

Re:Huh? (1)

AtariKee (455870) | more than 4 years ago | (#32974532)

My bad. You can add pioneer Al Alcorn [wikipedia.org] to that list as well. Where the fuck is he?

Re:Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32977648)

My bad. You can add pioneer Al Alcorn [wikipedia.org] to that list as well. Where the fuck is he?

Well, last weekend, he was at California Extreme [caextreme.org] , along with Steve Ritchie (pinball design), Slug Russell (did a talk on PDP-1 Spacewar, and here he is playing Cinematronics' coin-op [photobucket.com] version), Doug McRae [youtube.com] (whose Missile Command hack got him hired by Atari, and whose hack of Pac-Man became Ms. PacMan), many other notables, and of course, hundreds of arcade machines.

Re:Huh? (1)

Mad-Bassist (944409) | more than 4 years ago | (#32977906)

At least Steve Richie is in there, but yeah, the first name I looked for is the one in my signature.

From Firepower to Black Knight to Defender to Robotron... his creations kicked my ass many times, and I kept coming back for more.

So many names missing (3, Insightful)

jd (1658) | more than 4 years ago | (#32974538)

Ian Bell (Elite), David Braben (Elite, Zarch, Virus, Virus 2000), Jeremy Smith (Thrust, Exile), Peter Irvin (Starship Command, Exile), Nigel Alderton (Chuckie Egg), Geoff Crammond (Revs, Formula One Grand Prix), Tim and Chris Stamper (Knight Lore), Nick Pelling (Firetrack, Frak!, Wing Commander, Mortal Kombat 2, Duke Nukem), Peter Molyneux (Populous). And that's within a few minutes of looking. Of these, Ian Bell and David Braben deserve MBEs for their service to gaming and a lifetime of free psychiatric care to help with their feud).

Re:So many names missing (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32974588)

And what about the whole crew of Lucasfilm Games?, including Ron Gilbert, Tim Schafer, Dave Grossman, Michael Z. Land, Aric Wilmunder, Brian Moriarty... they made history!

Re:So many names missing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32974782)

For game champion:
Tomo Ohira

For game developer:
John Carmack

For game designer:
Warren Spector

Re:So many names missing (1)

glwtta (532858) | more than 4 years ago | (#32975008)

Nick Pelling (Firetrack, Frak!, Wing Commander, Mortal Kombat 2, Duke Nukem)

Wait, is that the "The Curse of the Voynich" Nick Pelling?

Had no idea he worked on so many well-known games.

Re:So many names missing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32975752)

Oddly enough, when I think of Wing Commander I think of Chris Roberts. Checking Wikipedia quickly, it seems Pelling was only involved in ports to the Amiga and CD32. Can anyone confirm that?

That said, I can't seem to find a list of past inductees anywhere. You'd think it'd be easy to find...

That said, A lot of the old Origin Systems guys deserve something. Those guys were bringing real environmental storytelling into games back before others even cared about it - everything from the manuals (styled as in-world magazines) to minor background details and effects in cut-scenes. Ultima, System Shock... Hell, SS barely sold but SHODAN still keeps cropping up on 'best villain' lists.

I wonder if these lists are going to represent people like them, or if they'll just be filled with popular, but less creative folks?

Re:So many names missing (1)

Kayhynn (1683078) | more than 4 years ago | (#32978540)

If you think that someone is missing -- someone who absolutely deserves to be inducted into the IVGHOF, but is not on this list, you are right! This process is just beginning and we plan on bestowing the highest honors on every individual or organization who has contributed to the success or enrichment of the worldwide video game industry. Unfortunately, everybody can't be inducted in a single year, so we ask for everyone's patience as we move through this first year and work to establish the IVGHOF as the cultural crossroads of the video game age. This is the first induction ceremony of many years to come. No one will sit through 4 hours of inductions just to get 200 people inducted.

Re:So many names missing (1)

jd (1658) | more than 4 years ago | (#32992272)

This is the age of multi-core! No longer are you limited to single-thread inductions. With the appropriate locks and barrier operations, 16-way parallelism should be possible.

Ottumwa, Iowa? (5, Funny)

Chas (5144) | more than 4 years ago | (#32974630)

Oh. I see it right here on the map. Just southeast of Outer Buttfuckistan...err...Des Moines.

Who in their right mind puts something like this out in the asscrack back of beyond?

"Oh property values are cheap and this'll draw tourism!"

IT'S FUCKING IOWA! It's one gigantic cornfield with pretty much NOTHING else to recommend it.

And this place is nearly an hour's travel from the nearest major expressway. Yeah! Gonna draw lots of non-locals there!

What next? The Goatse hall of fame?

If I may enlighten you... (1)

lexsird (1208192) | more than 4 years ago | (#32974806)

Build it and they shall come.

A part of a destination is the journey taken, and what honor is there to a hall of fame without a pilgrimage?

Re:If I may enlighten you... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32974814)

Wait, are you talking about the goatse hall of fame?

Re:Ottumwa, Iowa? (2, Informative)

greg1104 (461138) | more than 4 years ago | (#32978340)

Ottumwa is the founding location of Twin Galaxies [wikipedia.org] , and from 1982 to 1984 it really was the video game capital of the US at least. Nowadays, I find it much more convenient to visit Funspot [funspotnh.com] when I'm looking for that sort of thing though, rather than go to the middle of Iowa. (All of Iowa feels like the middle)

Re:Ottumwa, Iowa? (1)

An ominous Cow art (320322) | more than 4 years ago | (#32978516)

Nowadays, I find it much more convenient to visit Funspot

Agreed. People look at me funny when I describe my yearly visits as "holy pilgrimages", but I really love that place! I'm fortunate it's only an hour's drive away.

Re:Ottumwa, Iowa? (1)

Chowderbags (847952) | more than 4 years ago | (#32981560)

IT'S FUCKING IOWA! It's one gigantic cornfield with pretty much NOTHING else to recommend it.

Be nice, they have soy beans and pigs too. (Said as the son to 2 Iowans. Too many vacations to that boring as all fuck place.)

Re:Ottumwa, Iowa? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33001576)

Any anthropologists want to take note of Chas here? Here we see a young child who sees any place that isn't overcrowded with several million people as "the asscrack back of beyond". And if he can't get to it conveniently it's not worth going to. This young man is seemingly incapable of generating his own entertainment. When faced with something new or strange his initial reaction is repugnance, unless that place can spoon-feed him something that conforms to his pre-existing notions of 'cool' or 'fun'.

Pretty pathetic.

Just has to be said (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32974772)

Duke Nukem Forever, of course !

At least I have chicken (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32974792)

LEROY JENKINS!!!

Summary of the list (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32974928)

A bunch of faggots.

Re:Summary of the list (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32974968)

Once in a blue moon, a profane AC post just nails it.

This is spam. (1)

Burnhard (1031106) | more than 4 years ago | (#32974982)

I'm guessing this is marketing spam from Microsoft, particularly as it doesn't contain someone like David Braben but does contain a whole load of x-box designers.

Wrong approach? (1)

lyinhart (1352173) | more than 4 years ago | (#32975050)

I'd rather they focus on recognizing the games themselves, kind of like how other museums focus on the artifacts they display. Funspot Family Fun Center [wikipedia.org] 's non-profit wing takes that approach - showcasing old arcade games.

misleading name? (1)

hornedrat (1767706) | more than 4 years ago | (#32975128)

the title appears misleading is it only console games? (what i think of when i see video games) or is it all computer games including consoles etc. There are brilliant games that should be included in such a HOF including but not limited to games like Gauntlet and for me the original ad&d roleplaying games. In terms of people Mike Singleton sticks out (Lords of Midnight developer) but this was not console/arcade so might be excluded on that basis. It seams that such a HOF will very much depend on what people like/play who get a say in it and how wide their remit is

they need pinball games as well. (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 4 years ago | (#32977072)

they need pinball games as well.

Re:misleading name? (1)

julesh (229690) | more than 4 years ago | (#32983088)

the title appears misleading is it only console games? (what i think of when i see video games)

That's just you. Generally, the definition of "video game" is considered inclusive of computers, consoles, and dedicated devices with graphical displays, whereas "computer game" is exclusively either games for general-purpose computers, or sometimes includes console games, but (almost) never includes games running on dedicated devices.

Some definitions from around the web:

"an electronic game that involves interaction with a user interface to generate visual feedback on a video device" (wikipedia)
"A type of game existing as and controlled by software, usually run by a video game console or a computer" (wiktionary)
"a game played against a computer" (wordnet)
"An electronic or computerized game played by manipulating images on a video display or television screen." (dictionary.com)

Frank Klepacki & Chris Sawyer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32975246)

I'd like to suggest Frank Klepacki for his incredible work on the Command and Conquer series. Can't say much more about that.

More controversially, I think Chris Sawyer is an underrated fella in the Gaming world. He single handedly built some of the best games I've ever played (Transport Tycoon Deluxe and Rollercoaster Tycoon). Obviously my preference for these two games make me biased, but I think he deserves it for not having any problem with Transport Tycoon Deluxe being open-source developed into OpenTTD. The fact he wasn't a dick about it and now OpenTTD is one of the best games ever written, that makes him pretty kickass in my book.

Hall of fame? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32976224)

Really? Where is Yu Suzuki?

Alexey Pajitnov and Tetris (3, Insightful)

Sven-Erik (177541) | more than 4 years ago | (#32976332)

And what about russian Alexey Pajitnov and his Tetris game...

The list of sponsors is... (1)

NoSleepDemon (1521253) | more than 4 years ago | (#32976418)

...Not exactly impressive. They basically have a bunch of shops (Walmart, Gamestop), some random studios (but hey if they made the hit SuperMonkeyBash HD on XBLA, then who are we to doubt the decades of industry knowledge AngryChimp Studios has?) and then XBox 360. Well then, that'd explain all the XBox related crap on the list. The whole site smacks of some coordinator of State relations being given a government grant and noticing that them thar games are big at the moment, and gathering a similar bunch of people who know nothing with some input from that AngryChimp Studio they managed to get onboard for a few thousand bucks. I've actually seen this happen and sadly been a part of it, and it's a soul sucking experience when a bunch of 40 something HR/marketing people decide that Gaming is the Next Big Thing and proceed to blow hundreds of thousands of dollars on stupid conferences and websites built by amateur local design companies. Oh yeah, and any Gaming hall of anything with Master Chief at the top has about as much credibility as a gaming degree without math in it.

I live in Iowa (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32976970)

I've actually won a tourney around here...
Iowa DOES NOT deserve to have this here. There has never been any CAL tourney's, never anything bigger than MAYBE 50 people in one tourney.

Re:I live in Iowa (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32981574)

Iowa DOES NOT deserve to have this here

I don't mind that so much as the location they've chosen. Ottumwa is quite a ways from Des Moines... A hall of fame would be fitting in West Des Moines, but I suppose you have to fork over the $$ if you want a building there. For those of you unfamiliar with Iowa, WDM is approximately like a nice Chicago suburb of about 55k people.

(I live in Ames)

Hey guys... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32977168)

There's a Donkey Kong kill screen coming up if anyone wants to watch.

Re:Hey guys... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32979578)

OK, that's fucking funny ... Best part of King of Kong

The Wizard (1)

Supp0rtLinux (594509) | more than 4 years ago | (#32977394)

Let's not forget Fred Savage in the Wizard...

EPIC FAIL (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32977426)

This whole idea should go in the FAIL hall of fame. A bunch of xbox douchebags get included, while real pioneers get completely overlooked? Pac-man is the only character on the list? Apparently, this is nothing but a Microsoft wank-fest. I'm just glad they so totally failed to give this any kind of credibility, so any money they sunk into it will be completely wasted.

A few things to understand (2, Informative)

Kayhynn (1683078) | more than 4 years ago | (#32977430)

1. This is the first year of the induction ceremonies. Like every other hall of fame out there, people don't make the first year, or second year or other years. 2. Yes, we know some of the people who "should be inducted" didn't make the cut. Shit happens. 3....please read the below comments from Walter Day on how the inductees were picked: When the IVGHOF was first conceived, it immediately approved a list of inductees that included five noted competitive gamers, four legendary industry pioneers and one historic video game. Realizing that there were many, many more individuals worthy of enshrinement into the IVGHOF, the IVGHOF Board of Directors decided to make the Class of 2010 a very large one and decided to hold many ceremonies around North America to induct further honorees into the Hall of Fame for the Class of 2010. However, only one such ceremony was held – at the 2009 NW Pinball and Game Room Show – before the IVGHOF changed its plans and decided that all future inductees would be selected by a Panel of Industry Experts who would approve the selection criteria, create a ballot of nominees for each forthcoming year, and then select the Inductees from among the list of nominees. Plus, as the IVGHOF gained more knowledge from these experiences, the vision for the IVGHOF evolved and it was decided that there would be only one ceremony per year and that it would induct a smaller number of honorees designated by this objective panel of industry experts. Recognizing that the worldwide gaming industry has greatly benefited from the support of the global community of competitive gamers, it was decided to dedicate this first class to the "History of Competitive Gaming," and to focus on the contributions made to the industry by the original gamer -- the "arcade champion." In accordance with these plans to celebrate the "History of Competitive Gaming," a majority of the inductees honored in this first Class are arcade or PC gaming champions. You will find on this website a list of the current Inductees. We hope you will join us in honoring them on Saturday, August 7th, 2010 at the Bridge View Center in Ottumwa, Iowa. The current class -- the Class of 2010 -- is composed of the arcade champions Inducted at the NW Pinball and Game Room Show, as well as ten other luminaries who were approved by the IVGHOF Board of Directors in May of 2009. In total, the Class of 2010 includes 4 iconic industry visionaries, 5 game or software designers, 19 competitive gamers and one video game. And, if you think that someone is missing -- someone who absolutely deserves to be inducted into the IVGHOF, but is not on this list, you are right! This process is just beginning and we plan on bestowing the highest honors on every individual or organization who has contributed to the success or enrichment of the worldwide video game industry. Unfortunately, everybody can't be inducted in a single year, so we ask for everyone's patience as we move through this first year and work to establish the IVGHOF as the cultural crossroads of the video game age.

Re:A few things to understand (1)

NoSleepDemon (1521253) | more than 4 years ago | (#32977494)

You guys sure did manage to induct a bunch of XBox developers, though

Re:A few things to understand (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32978274)

"decided that all future inductees would be selected by a Panel of Industry Experts who would approve the selection criteria, create a ballot of nominees for each forthcoming year, and then select the Inductees from among the list of nominees."

"objective panel of industry experts"

Well, that explains how the XBox dudes made it in and about a thousand more deserving and bleeding obvious candidates didn't. I'd put money on a bunch of those 'objective' 'experts' being MS employees.

Re:A few things to understand (1)

Kayhynn (1683078) | more than 4 years ago | (#32978474)

Please re-read your own comment. "FUTURE INDUCTEES would be selected by...." That doesn't mean that this current list was selected by them. This is the first year. A limit had to be put. Not everyone could be inducted this year that deserves to be inducted. Also, did you guys even note the other folks who are being inducted? It's heavy on Nintendo developed games. None of the objective experts were selected yet for the next panel of judges who will select Class of 2011. All of the current ones were selected by a lot of local Ottumwa folks, Walter included. Not everyone who deserves to be inducted is getting inducted this year. I'm right there with you on Richard Garriot and other design teams should be inducted as well...however...shit happens. We can't fit everyone in. As far as the comment on Xbox sponsoring the event, they were selected way before they became a sponsor, almost a year ago. They just came to the table to help with sponsorship this month. So get off your high horse. If we had inducted just Nintendo, or just Dreamcast, or just Playstation guys, the same thing would have happened. Everyone who deserves to be inducted will be inducted eventually, it just takes patience.

Re:A few things to understand (1)

julesh (229690) | more than 4 years ago | (#32983008)

The problem is, you've basically screwed the whole thing up. You should be putting the most influential people in first. I'm not sure about the gamers you included -- I see at least one of the names I'd expect to see there, but don't know a huge amount about the field -- but in terms of designers you've basically missed the mark. By including multiple people from the same project (i.e. design of the Xbox) you appear to be showing bias towards that particular project. And by not picking many of the scores of designers who have real name recognition among the general gaming public (e.g. Carmack, Garriot, Braben & Bell) and instead focussing mostly on people who are actually much less well known, you give the impression that this list isn't really serious but more a sort of back-scratching thing that industry insiders might be interested in but the rest of us should ignore.

Re:A few things to understand (1)

brolin9 (634581) | more than 4 years ago | (#32997978)

1. This is the first year of the induction ceremonies. Like every other hall of fame out there, people don't make the first year, or second year or other years. 2. Yes, we know some of the people who "should be inducted" didn't make the cut.

However, most people would expect inductions to start with the most significant people first. I believe the point people have been making here is that your list completely misses that mark. For example, the Xbox design team? I would think the developers of, say, the first successful console, first successful handheld, etc., would be first. You know, the people that actually created the industry? What, exactly, did the Xbox create? At least you didn't pick the hardware disaster that is the Xbox 360 (my grandson is on his third!).
I don't think anybody would really expect every worthy name on the first list. But they did expect every name on the first list to clearly be the most worthy. As a few have commented, your list reads more like a sponsors list.

Say it ain't so! (1)

DiEx-15 (959602) | more than 4 years ago | (#32988878)

Ottumwa, Iowa? The Center of the Video Game Universe?! Nooooo! Say it isn't so! All Ottumwa, Iowa and the whole state in fact is the Epicenter of BF Nowhere and a huge black hole for technology! (I should know - I use to live there!)
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