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400 Turns of Civilization V

CmdrTaco posted about 4 years ago | from the but-what-about-the-grid dept.

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Wes found a preview of one of the most anticipated upcoming releases by the inhabitants of my office: Civ V. It starts "This preview of Civilization V is incomplete. It takes more than nine Earth hours, you see, for the great Arabian empire — land of Mecca, Rio De Janeiro and Beijing — to assume dominance of the globe."

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This is a test (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33151710)

This is only a test.

They can have all the Third World cities. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33151718)

They can keep all the Third World-housed cities. Hellholes and all that.

Modbomb in 3, 2, 1....

Slashdot is fucking broken again (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33151738)

Stop messing with the godamn live version of the website, morons. Previous article is still stuck at 5 comments, for the topic it's not normal. Comments are messed up.

Slashdot Broken? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33151766)

WTF is up with Slashdot?

The last few times I've tried to post, I get a comment with a score of "?" which disappears on reload of the thread.

Re:Slashdot Broken? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33152438)

slashdot calculate your score on demand and you see it only after you posted

Just one question: (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33151774)

> It takes more than nine Earth hours, you see, for the great Arabian empire — land of Mecca, Rio De Janeiro and Beijing — to assume dominance of the globe.

Why do you hate the USA?

Yay, FireAxis (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33151776)

I certainly won't be buying this or any of their games. Their buggy as hell "Sid Meier's Railroads" still irks me to this. Game was fun, but the CTD bugs were so annoying and they left their customers out to dry by never fixing the problems.

drools (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33151784)

nt

CIVV or CIV or CiV or Civ V (3, Interesting)

demonbug (309515) | about 4 years ago | (#33151788)

Stupid Roman numerals.

Re:CIVV or CIV or CiV or Civ V (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33152580)

CIV

So this is the 104th game?

Advert (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33151806)

Mod op 'advert'.

Nine hours? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33151808)

I think I'd get bored after about five.

Only 9? (1)

Traze (1167415) | about 4 years ago | (#33151818)

I swear I have had 20-30 hours sessions. Often in fact.

Re:Only 9? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33152256)

I swear I have had 20-30 hours sessions. Often in fact.

As the article states (I know, I know...):

It takes more than 400 turns of Civilization V to finish one playthrough set on a "small" world, time passing at a "standard" pace with the game set to "chieftain" (not very hard) difficulty.

Your game settings were perhaps different.

Civ V almost here. (5, Funny)

riskeetee (1039912) | about 4 years ago | (#33151826)

Time to say goodbye to the wife and kids...

Re:Civ V almost here. (1)

DamienRBlack (1165691) | about 4 years ago | (#33152408)

Hey me and my wife can't wait to play a marathon game together, you should invite her... ditch the kids though, especially if their too young.

Re:Civ V almost here. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33152588)

You might want to spend some time improving your grasp of English.

Re:Civ V almost here. (3, Funny)

capo_dei_capi (1794030) | about 4 years ago | (#33152666)

Of course you have to play it with your "wife", at least until they develop a hands-free computer interface.

Falcon (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33151832)

POST!

I can't wait...... (5, Funny)

drc003 (738548) | about 4 years ago | (#33151834)

...to tell my wife: "Just one more turn" 15 or 20 times in a row before...


...she just gives up and falls asleep.

More and More excited (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33151838)

The more I read about Civ V the more excited I am for it to come out. Sadly the review doesn't touch on much "new". But it could just be that most of the features are cemented in and the game is just being polished at this point.

Yay! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33151842)

Piss frost!

I can't wait... (1)

drc003 (738548) | about 4 years ago | (#33151852)

...to tell my wife: "Just one more turn", before...


...she finally gives up and falls asleep!

Re:I can't wait... (1)

drc003 (738548) | about 4 years ago | (#33152252)

My apologies on the double post due to /. comments being completely hosed for 20-30 minutes.

Re:I can't wait... (4, Funny)

nacturation (646836) | about 4 years ago | (#33152274)

Wow, that was just like the comment you made [slashdot.org] on your last turn.

Looks great. (1)

Vetruvet (1639267) | about 4 years ago | (#33151856)

This looks pretty good. I definitely like the hex-spaces instead of squares - it gives more of a natural feel to the borders (although it'll pose a slight problem when converting civ4 maps...). Look forward to playing the actual game...

400 turns (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33151868)

I also found a preview of 400 turns of CmdrTaco's micropenis. It can be found here [meatspin.com] .

Only Nine Hours? (1)

spoilsportmotors (1251392) | about 4 years ago | (#33151872)

Not to put to fine a point on it, but somebody's doing something wrong. Remains to be seen if it's Civ V or the reviewer.

Re:Only Nine Hours? (3, Insightful)

mooingyak (720677) | about 4 years ago | (#33152188)

He did say it was a small map on standard w/ Chieftain difficulty, and he was probably rushing so he could write up a review.

Re:Only Nine Hours? (2, Informative)

Daniel_Staal (609844) | about 4 years ago | (#33152310)

And that he didn't actually finish in that time.

The First Post: (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33151888)

The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. I am not responsible for them in any way.

400 turns? How about 4000? (1)

mfarah (231411) | about 4 years ago | (#33151894)

If there's ONE change (one of many, but still) I could make to the different Civilization games, it'd be the ability to set an arbitrary end date.

Yeah, I know Freeciv does it.

Re:400 turns? How about 4000? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33152240)

It can and has been done in Mods. So...you could make it, I suppose.

Re:400 turns? How about 4000? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33152244)

Every Civ so far has let you keep playing past the 'end date' and have had mods that extend the end date and include new units to keep it interesting. Not to mention you can change the default end date by editing a text file.

No comments yet? (3, Funny)

AvitarX (172628) | about 4 years ago | (#33151904)

Is everyone RTFA?

Civ V: Off The Grid! (4, Interesting)

InfinityWpi (175421) | about 4 years ago | (#33151908)

I'm actually looking forward to some of these changes now... paying upkeep for roads makes sense to me. They're more like interstate highways now, not the roads that go every-which-way. The new way to expand your cities and develop culture sound good, too.

Well, there goes part of my 2010 and all of my 2011... just need to get a machine that can handle 3D graphics to play it, now...

Ya the rest of my year is shot for sure (2, Insightful)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | about 4 years ago | (#33152464)

Not only Civ V, but there's also Elemental War of Magic. I've been beta testing and it is great. So I'll have not one but TWO epic TBS games. I'll be lucky if I keep my job :D.

Re:Civ V: Off The Grid! (1)

Lord Ender (156273) | about 4 years ago | (#33152570)

This game does not look too 3D-intensive. You can probably run it fine with a $70 budget graphics card.

meh (3, Interesting)

Black Parrot (19622) | about 4 years ago | (#33151912)

I had a long hiatus from Civ II to Civ IV, and when I finally tried the latter I found it dull. The updates don't seem to add anything interesting, and haven't been any more fun than the original, or FreeCiv.

Is there some reason we should expect more from V?

Re:meh (2, Informative)

jmizrahi (1409493) | about 4 years ago | (#33152346)

This is obviously a personal preference thing, but I had the opposite experience. I played Civ II for many years, then had a long break, and years later tried Civ IV. I found it to be better than Civ II in a lot of ways. There were all sorts of annoying things in Civ II, like losing whole stacks of units when one gets attacked, or the ability to deposit entire armies outside your opponents city and then declare war, during which you could use his railroads. Civ IV has numerous small improvements, which for me added up to make a big difference. The basic gameplay, of course, is the same.

Re:meh (2, Insightful)

raddan (519638) | about 4 years ago | (#33152404)

I haven't played Civ IV myself, having found Civ III to be a nice improvement over Civ II (man, can we just get a new Alpha Centauri already?!), but I think the consensus was that Civ IV was a flop. The game got rid of some nice gameplay elements and expanded on others (diplomacy). That may be your kind of game-- after all, I loved the original Railroad Tycoon and intensely disliked the follow-up, but my opinion runs contrary to the masses there. But hopefully they've learned from their mistakes in Civ IV.

Anyway, the way is see it is: Sid Meier is a fucking genius. I will buy anything he makes. If that makes me a Sid Meier fanboy, so be it. He's the only game maker who has consistently kept my attention over the years (Pirates!, Civ series, F119/F117A Stealth Fighter, Railroad Tycoon series, and so on). His games have HUGE replay value.

Re:meh (3, Insightful)

Feyshtey (1523799) | about 4 years ago | (#33152596)

I actually found CivIII to be the most annoying of the franchise. I just couldn't get into it at all. Civ II and IV, while having some failing points, are superior to III IMO.

Re:meh (5, Insightful)

Mongoose Disciple (722373) | about 4 years ago | (#33152600)

but I think the consensus was that Civ IV was a flop

Source?

Anecdotal, obviously, but I don't know anyone who doesn't think 4 is the best one. I'm still playing it regularly (some single player, some multi with wife + friends) and if 5 isn't great I probably won't stop.

first post (-1, Offtopic)

mat128 (735121) | about 4 years ago | (#33151932)

a first for me!

No not again... (1)

Midnight's Shadow (1517137) | about 4 years ago | (#33151948)

I've already lost to much of my life to the first 4 civs.

CAN'T WAIT (1)

Pojut (1027544) | about 4 years ago | (#33151952)

SO MANY MEMORIES with the Civ series. Our gaming circle has always been huge into the Civ games, and we spent some loooooooooooong uninterrupted sessions with Civ IV. Hell, my first time playing through Mirror's Edge took place entirely in between turns during an extended Civ IV LAN weekend.

I'm super excited about Civ V, not only because it's another chance to create even more memories, but because my wife will finally experience one of our LAN's centered around a game that no one has played before her. She got deep into Civ Rev on the DS, got super deep into Civ IV,and is equally excited as the rest of our gaming circle about Civilization V. Being married to a fellow nerd is awesome :-)

On an unrelated note, I posted about this very article on my site barely an hour ago...go figure.

First (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33151960)

Turn

The Tags are getting more absurd each day (3, Insightful)

Lars T. (470328) | about 4 years ago | (#33151964)

"alternatehistory" - really?

First! (0)

longhairedgnome (610579) | about 4 years ago | (#33151968)

Post? I may need to pirate Civ 4 again...

I liked to conquer the Chinese (4, Funny)

tempest69 (572798) | about 4 years ago | (#33151974)

But I always felt the need to conquer them two hours later.

Great... (5, Funny)

DarthBling (1733038) | about 4 years ago | (#33151980)

... another installment of Civilazation. I already know I have the leadership skills of Dan Quayle. Do I have to be reminded again?

Re:Great... (2, Insightful)

ch-chuck (9622) | about 4 years ago | (#33152434)

Good idea tho, actually, if we put politicians through a civ test or *something* we the voting electorate might be able to tell the actual skilled legislators from the big mouthed wannabees.

Re:Great... (4, Funny)

Mr. Underbridge (666784) | about 4 years ago | (#33152450)

... another installment of Civilazation. I already know I have the leadership skills of Dan Quayle. Do I have to be reminded again?

Props for mis-spelling a random word in a Dan Quayle joke.

civplayer (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33151982)

this is going to be awesome!

wtf? (1)

Pojut (1027544) | about 4 years ago | (#33151984)

Did the site just crash? I wrote up a big-ass comment, but it isn't showing up....TAAACCCCOOOOOOO!!!!!!! /Kirk

really, first? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33151988)

I love it!!!!

1st (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33151992)

FRIST POAST

Dupe... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33152006)

Maybe I'm missing something but what's new here? The fact he was playing the game? Other than that this is all the same info we've read before...

C64 (1)

mseeger (40923) | about 4 years ago | (#33152012)

I still remember the first version on the C64. And winning on the hardest difficulty settings is one of my fondest computer gaming memories (along with resurfacing once with real a Amulet of Yendor).

CU, Martin

Re:C64 (1)

revlayle (964221) | about 4 years ago | (#33152386)

What game were you playing and where can I get it?

Re:C64 (3, Informative)

Zedrick (764028) | about 4 years ago | (#33152526)

Huh? Civilization was never released on the C64. Perhaps you're confusing it with the Amiga version.

I've always wondered... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33152026)

do I have to play these Civ games in one go? Or can I play a multiplayer game with a few friends for an hour or two one night, and resume the next day?

Looks good (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33152028)

i hope it supports wine.

Incomplete (1)

LordEd (840443) | about 4 years ago | (#33152030)

If the preview is incomplete, then why should I bother finishing thi

Time to repeat the brief love affair. (2, Interesting)

Seumas (6865) | about 4 years ago | (#33152036)

I love Civilization, but I always find that the "one true way" to play starts to bum me out and I end up not playing beyond the first couple of weeks. There's a great excitement in the discovery and exploration and surprise when you can meander through a game against real people. It's not quite the same when -- as is the case with Civilization -- the game becomes nothing but a competition to see who can speed through the spreadsheet containing the "one true path to victory" the fastest. The graphics become irrelevant and you may as well be sitting down to a multi-player spreadsheet.

I'll buy it. I'll enjoy it. I just won't enjoy it for months or years like so many of the hard core do. I wish someone would figure out the special key to keeping the excitement and exploration part of the game long into the game's cycle.

Re:Time to repeat the brief love affair. (4, Informative)

quantumplacet (1195335) | about 4 years ago | (#33152380)

Did you play Civ IV? There absolutely was no "one true path" in that game. Particularly with all the expansions and on the hardest difficulty, you absolutely had to play to your particular civs strength, and trying to get different victory conditions with each of the different civs was always a challenge. On top of that, playing the same civ with a different leader could be a very different experience.

Re:Time to repeat the brief love affair. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33152406)

What are you talking about? There is no one true path through civilization, this is just a garbage opinion. You and your opinion belong in the trash.

Based on your starting location, based on random events and based on other people's locations you have totally different access to things. Different techs become more or less useful. Are you serious?

Re:Time to repeat the brief love affair. (2, Informative)

Rhys (96510) | about 4 years ago | (#33152642)

Mods. Try "Fall from Heaven 2" -- for Civ4/BtS/Warlords. It was on huge discount when Civ V got announced on Steam, but it looks regular price now.

frost piss (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33152048)

narf?

Not sure about the new look (4, Interesting)

Dr. Spork (142693) | about 4 years ago | (#33152052)

The nice thing about Civ4 and earlier was that the appearance of the land quickly and clearly conveyed information about what was there and its role in game terms. In an effort to make the landscape look more natural, I worry that this information might be more hidden. If so, that would be a bad decision.

Re:Not sure about the new look (1)

moonbender (547943) | about 4 years ago | (#33152316)

I think it's nice. I'm pretty sure that after a fairly short time you'll be able to "read" the new style just like the old one. And I'd be surprised if they got rid of the various informational layers that Civ IV had. TFA also mentions a new 2D overview mode which is more iconographic, he compares it to a board game. I just hope you won't end up playing most of the game in that mode after a while...

Re:Not sure about the new look (1)

canajin56 (660655) | about 4 years ago | (#33152668)

It seems they shared your concern, because there's a toggle between "Realistic 3D" mode and "2D Tactical" with a hexagon overlay and terrain etc. represented by 2D icons.

It's true, I'm perverted (3, Informative)

dziban303 (540095) | about 4 years ago | (#33152064)

I want to have sex with this game.

I want it to bear my kittens.

How I play... (1)

splatbang (619635) | about 4 years ago | (#33152078)

Just... one... more... turn... ! arghstupidillfixyouandyourdamncannons

Linux? (1)

XanC (644172) | about 4 years ago | (#33152082)

Any word on whether it will work in Linux? Natively, through WINE, none of the above?

Hex! (4, Insightful)

Saysys (976276) | about 4 years ago | (#33152090)

"The biggest change in Civ V is that the Civilization world is no longer sliced into squares. It is composed of hexagons."

This change is about 15 years late... but most welcome

Re:Hex! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33152290)

Also you can't stack units anymore (heard it from the IGN preview).

Ha (1)

atisss (1661313) | about 4 years ago | (#33152092)

If I first-post slashdot, can I get copy? Pleeese?

Awww, man! (1)

nanodroid (116613) | about 4 years ago | (#33152102)

There goes my ability to resist PC games as a grown man.

20,000,000 beard seconds and a divorce later...

Re:Awww, man! (1)

nacturation (646836) | about 4 years ago | (#33152348)

20,000,000 beard seconds and a divorce later...

Does only being 4 inches [google.com] have anything to do with why you got divorced?

Heh (1)

akanouras (1431981) | about 4 years ago | (#33152108)

One of the welcome options involving the hex grid is the support of a "strategic view" which flips the graphics into what looks almost like a board game full of flat simplified icons that represent terrain, units and resources in simple shapes. It turns the busy Civ V visuals into a very-easy-to-scan map when you are searching for the hex that has the whales the people of Damascus are demanding.

Seems the writer only played Civ IV or something.

On a side note, is there a FLOSS clone of the newer Civ games?
Freeciv is supposedly a clone of Civ II, not any less addictive though.

Will you beable to mod in the old stuff that was t (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | about 4 years ago | (#33152112)

Will you be able to mod in the old stuff that was taken out?

can you mod in more road types and make it so you can build super highway as well cheaper roads.

Also same with rail like rail, high speed rail, electric rail, monorail and Maglev.

Not another one! (1)

RabidMonkey (30447) | about 4 years ago | (#33152116)

I don't know if I can handle another iconic game this year, already the lawn is growing longer, and that's just Starcraft 2.

Next up, a WoW expansion, then CIV5.

A good excuse to upgrade the computer, but I can only handle one addiction at a time ... which ones are going to suffer?

I'm going to have to see if I can get my girlfriend hooked on one to save me some pain. Thank goodness the winters are long and cold.

Civilization (1)

MyLongNickName (822545) | about 4 years ago | (#33152118)

I spent so many freaking hours playing the original Civilization that it was affecting my college grades. I had to break the damn CD. Back then $50 was a significant portion of my free money... I swear I almost cried as the CD shattered into pieces...

Re:Civilization (3, Insightful)

dkleinsc (563838) | about 4 years ago | (#33152226)

You had completely the wrong solution to this situation: Better would be to sell your Civ game to a jerk with higher grades than you for $45. Still cheaper than the full $50 for him, recovers your grades, ruins his, and means you only lost $5.

Oh, and if you play real life like you would Civ, then club him over the head and take the game back, then repeat the process with another person you don't like.

Re:Civilization (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33152258)

The original Civilization came on CD?

Re:Civilization (1)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | about 4 years ago | (#33152384)

In re-releases, yes.

Re:Civilization (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33152428)

I'm pretty sure it came on 3.5" diskette ... or maybe that was just the pirated version I had.

Frist Pots (0)

rickb928 (945187) | about 4 years ago | (#33152124)

Yea, it's just a game. Not a reiable simulation.

Feh.

If nobody else is going to say it, I will... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33152132)

First Post!

iPad version? (1)

Eponymous Coward (6097) | about 4 years ago | (#33152150)

Might not be a popular thing to say around these parts, but I think a Civ game would be awesome on the iPad.

Re:iPad version? (1)

Wiarumas (919682) | about 4 years ago | (#33152220)

Civ is already available on the iPhone and iPad. A watered down, mobile version, but can't really complain for the price (I think I bought mine on sale at 2.99 or so).

OMGOMGOMG (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33152154)

GAH WTBLOODYF BLOCKED AT WORK

Peeking down the Casual Gamer avenue. (1)

Delusion_ (56114) | about 4 years ago | (#33152332)

Civ 2 and Alpha Centauri are my favorite Civ games, because ever since Civ III, the developers have been pushing a smaller and smaller game at me.

Now, I realize there's a lot of push to make the multiplayer game a reasonable experience that doesn't take more than one session to complete, but I'm not interested in multiplayer in the Civ series.

I want an epic-sized map that takes a long, long time to complete. That "huge" is 160x160 is a joke. I want to be able to play a map 5,000x3,000 squares long, and if that means that civilizations come in contact in the battleship era, I'm fine with that.

It doesn't mean everyone has to play this way. It doesn't mean I have to play this way every time. I just want the option to do so, without arbitrary map and city size limitations being imposed on me whose primary function is to make the multiplayer game a more streamlined experience. One should not exclude the other.

Re:Peeking down the Casual Gamer avenue. (1)

demonbug (309515) | about 4 years ago | (#33152544)

I agree somewhat, although I think the size limits in Civ IV were more hardware limited than anything else. Mid- to late-game on Huge maps the computer would start to take 5+ minutes per turn to figure everything out, which became pretty unplayable to me. This was with a pretty decent (at the time) computer.

I do tend to think that they shouldn't put such hard limits in (as processing power will inevitably catch up), but from a playability perspective even the huge maps they offered were really too big for a decent experience in my opinion, at least at the time of release.

Re:Peeking down the Casual Gamer avenue. (2, Insightful)

Delusion_ (56114) | about 4 years ago | (#33152648)

I don't necessarily disagree. But if the choice is between animated, flowing wheat fields in the farming squares, or a bigger game, I want the bigger game.

This is another case of not having to choose; let me play the big game, and if that becomes a five, ten minute turn compute-fest, let me turn off features I value less, such as terrain animation, in order to make that more practical.

Re:Peeking down the Casual Gamer avenue. (1)

Mongoose Disciple (722373) | about 4 years ago | (#33152652)

Agreed -- a guy I play multiplayer Civ4 with regularly still literally can't play a huge map game. It kills his sad computer, which doesn't have great specs for today, but they would have been pretty solid at Civ 4's original release.

Advert. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33152452)

Tag op 'advert', plz.

Unfortunately it's still the Disneyworld (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33152548)

Never seen the game, but i can make some premonitions;
No "ethnic cleansing" -button. Even as a dictatorship.
No other ethnic issues. A border city with co-existing religions only gains in stability and prosperity. No refugees.
Nuking someone still turns every other country against you. The effect of nuking on a city is somewhat similar to traditional bombing. No devastation.
Spearmen can still destroy a tank.

Study WW1 & WW2, and make an adult Civ for a change.

FIRST POST! (0, Offtopic)

Imazalil (553163) | about 4 years ago | (#33152582)

First Post Bia**es!!

Just had to get one more turn in first.

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