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Ted Stevens and Sean O'Keefe In Plane Crash

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the end-of-the-tubes dept.

Government 512

necro81 writes "The NY Times is reporting that former Senator Ted Stevens was aboard a small plane with eight others that crashed in remote southwest Alaska Monday night. Some news outlets are reporting that he died, along with at least four others. Meanwhile, the North American CEO of aerospace firm EADS and former NASA administrator Sean O'Keefe was was also reported in the crash. Rescue crews from the Alaska Air National Guard reached the site about ten hours after the initial crash."

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It'll be a while before we get confirmation... (4, Funny)

NevarMore (248971) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207556)

...since the internet is a series of tubes. Its not like a truck. It can get clogged.

Re:It'll be a while before we get confirmation... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33207604)

If we're going to make jokes, let me in on the action. Here's my contribution:

Ted Stevens isn't dead; he's merely in Stage 1-2.

Re:It'll be a while before we get confirmation... (1)

HiggsBison (678319) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207838)

What? No "... found in north woods cabin"?

Re:It'll be a while before we get confirmation... (1)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 3 years ago | (#33208006)

Ted Stevens isn't dead; he's merely in Stage 1-2.

He's like the Terminator (or is it the Energizer Bunny?) ... nothing can stop him.

Re:It'll be a while before we get confirmation... (1)

b4dc0d3r (1268512) | more than 3 years ago | (#33208026)

Looks like he got on "The Plane to Nowhere".

GOOD RIDDENCE OL TEDDY BOY (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33207628)

So my account is on the verge of excellent karma. I'm modded from 1 to 2 and go to excellent. I am then modded up to 5 (no funny involved) and modded down to 4, and my karma goes to good. Modded back to 5, it is STILL at good. What is the deal here?
 
So I feel like trolling to waste some modpoints. Good riddence, Ted Stevens, you douche of a political hack! I can't stand crooks.
 
Captcha: infamous

Re:GOOD RIDDENCE OL TEDDY BOY (-1, Offtopic)

HungryHobo (1314109) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207706)

slashdot weights downmods higher than upmods?

It's bolocks anyway.
A +5 is easy to get.

The only ones I'm happy with are the posts which get both troll/overrated and insightful/informative mods.

If nobody's disagreeing it's not really worth saying.

Re:GOOD RIDDENCE OL TEDDY BOY (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33207832)

Happened three times: last week, yesterday, and today. I basically have five posts that were +5, and after the first post at +5, I had excellent karma. Either commander "pink" taco is picking on me, or they have *REALLY* messed up karma here. As a result, I'm kinda stuck with replying to the FP to keep it above terrible/bad/neutral just because someone disagrees with me or funny/overrated-es me.

Re:GOOD RIDDENCE OL TEDDY BOY (5, Insightful)

Godskitchen (1017786) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207938)

Or you could stop worrying about your karma on a news site.

Re:GOOD RIDDENCE OL TEDDY BOY (0, Flamebait)

Rod Beauvex (832040) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207828)

Seriously. This guy has pulled some lame shit, like threatening to stall important bills, and people actually seem upset over his death.

Re:GOOD RIDDENCE OL TEDDY BOY (5, Informative)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207912)

For whatever reason, it is an American custom to eulogize dead politicians essentially without regard for quality. I'm not sure why.

Re:GOOD RIDDENCE OL TEDDY BOY (4, Insightful)

AkiraRoberts (1097025) | more than 3 years ago | (#33208064)

Perhaps because, though he was a dipshit, he was a) human and b) may not have actively revelled in his own evil. So it seems kind of odd to be all happy that he's dead. Personally, I won't miss the guy, but I'm also not really going to say 'Good riddance.' Something about the latter is a little cold blooded for my tastes.

Re:GOOD RIDDENCE OL TEDDY BOY (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33208032)

I wonder who the cuntdot fag is that modded you down, anyway, do any of the cuntdot fags want to waste a fucking mod point modding the AC down

Called "Karma" for a reason (1, Insightful)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#33208110)

"Funny" doesn't count for positive karma.

Plus, seeing as how you want someone dead who you simply dislike a bit, you are an asshole. It's called "Karma" for a reason, the choices you made are reflecting on your karma. Hence the name.

Would you find it as hilarious if Maxine Waters died and someone posted "GOOD RIDDANCE?" Even a political thief like Stevens or Waters doesn't deserve to die.

Re:GOOD RIDDENCE OL TEDDY BOY (1, Interesting)

euroq (1818100) | more than 3 years ago | (#33208194)

Slashdot is a very strange place. I don't know how half of the shit here works, either.

Re:It'll be a while before we get confirmation... (2, Insightful)

harlows_monkeys (106428) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207720)

Pretty much every network textbook in existence uses the analogy of "pipes" when describing latency and bandwidth. "Tubes" and "pipes" are essentially the same thing, so if Stevens was wrong, then so are all the major network experts who write the textbooks. And "clogged tubes" is a pretty good analogy for congestion along a route.

Re:It'll be a while before we get confirmation... (5, Insightful)

logjon (1411219) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207784)

Actually, if you listen to what he said, he wasn't really that far off, especially when you consider that a good portion of his audience had (and probably still has) no idea quite what the internet really is. Never understood all the flak he got for it.

Re:It'll be a while before we get confirmation... (1)

kelarius (947816) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207972)

It wasn't so much the content, as he was, in a laymans way, more or less correct. The flak comes from the rambling old-man-time's way of describing his point of view that he used. Also, the fact that he is completely out of touch with the internet as he seemed to mix up the words EMAIL and INTERNETS, he obviously hadn't used either in quite a while, if ever.

Re:It'll be a while before we get confirmation... (2, Insightful)

whoever57 (658626) | more than 3 years ago | (#33208052)

It wasn't so much the content, as he was, in a laymans way, more or less correct.

Apart from the fact that he seemed to think that the long delay in delivering "an Internet" [email] was due to those tubes being clogged, rather than the more likely explanation of a mail server being overloaded or offline.

Re:It'll be a while before we get confirmation... (1)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 3 years ago | (#33208156)

I think that's definitely part of it.

Basically, for those of us in IT: imagine your average user. They muddle through work, barely scraping by. They don't understand the system, or how it works, it just does, and that's fine. They don't need to. Someone else keeps in running and all is well.

Now, imagine if those people were allowed to design the replacement system. Chaos would ensue. That's basically what we have here. Your average lawmaker understands the internet and technology no more than your average corporate user, yet they're they ones who are making all the laws the govern these systems.

It's a scary thought.

Re:It'll be a while before we get confirmation... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33207848)

Autistics don't understand the concept of "analogy".

Re:It'll be a while before we get confirmation... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33208030)

But blonde females with huge breasts do understand the concept of "anal orgy".

Re:It'll be a while before we get confirmation... (3, Insightful)

bunratty (545641) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207890)

At our local children's museum, there's a model of the Internet as a series of transparent, flexible tubes. Each packet is represented by a ball, and they each take a different path to the destination. I have no idea why he gets so much flak for his tubes explanation of the Internet. He deserves flak for his infamous bridge to nowhere and felony indictment.

Re:It'll be a while before we get confirmation... (2, Insightful)

Surt (22457) | more than 3 years ago | (#33208146)

Worse than that, I have news for people. The internet is about 90% tubes. Little plastic tubes, with copper wire running through them for the most part. Also, some slightly larger tubes with more glass tubes inside. The other 10% is mostly computers.

Re:It'll be a while before we get confirmation... (2, Insightful)

91degrees (207121) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207790)

It is a fricken series of tubes, or at least it's a decent enough analogy.

Honestly, the guy gave a long and completely hopeless explanation of how the internet works and geeks focus on the one part that he actually got right!

Re:It'll be a while before we get confirmation... (1)

hardburn (141468) | more than 3 years ago | (#33208084)

The "Series of Tubes" is a short, succinct, catchy statement to encapsulate what he said. It might not be any more fair than Al "Invented the Internet" Gore, but nobody is going to get very far debating against it.

Re:It'll be a while before we get confirmation... (1)

onefriedrice (1171917) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207968)

...since the internet is a series of tubes. Its not like a truck. It can get clogged.

While Stevens was the archetypal old person who doesn't understand modern technology, his "series of tubes" quote looks completely brilliant beside some of the things my parents say about their computers on a daily basis. I would hope our senators would inform themselves on an issue thoroughly before either opposing it or supporting it, but I'm convinced that some (most?) old people are so far behind the curve and have so few good brain cells left that they're basically incapable of understanding any of it. That being the case, we will still make fun of him, but falling in party lines isn't such a bad backup. Moral of the story: don't pretend to be knowledgeable about something you actually don't get at all.

ten hours after the *initial* crash? (3, Insightful)

deviator (92787) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207558)

was there a second crash?

Re:ten hours after the *initial* crash? (4, Funny)

dyingtolive (1393037) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207574)

Maybe it hit so hard it bounced?

Re:ten hours after the *initial* crash? (1)

Fnord666 (889225) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207722)

was there a second crash?

No, there can be only one.

FTFA:
"A rescue crew from the Alaska Air National Guard and the United States Coast Guard arrived on the scene more than 12 hours after the crash, hampered by rain, high winds and heavy fog in an area of mountains and lakes north of Bristol Bay. "

Re:ten hours after the *initial* crash? (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207754)

Clearly they should have built that bridge to nowhere, so responders could quickly reach aircraft that crash there...

Re:ten hours after the *initial* crash? (4, Informative)

Captain Splendid (673276) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207736)

Actually, this crash IS his second crash. He survived one other in 1978.

Re:ten hours after the *initial* crash? (1)

suomynonAyletamitlU (1618513) | more than 3 years ago | (#33208142)

Wow, they must have been waiting at the crash site for a quite a while,

Re:ten hours after the *initial* crash? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33207834)

I think it's mandatory in "plane speech". George Carlin did a famous routine about it:

Quote [imdb.com]

George Carlin: People add extra words when they want things to sound more important than they really are. "Boarding process". Sounds important. It isn't.
[laughter]
George Carlin: It's just a bunch of people getting on an airplane. People like to sound important. Weathermen on Television talk about shower activity. Sounds more important than showers. I even heard one guy on CNN talk about a rain event. I swear to God. He said, "Louisiana's expecting a rain event". I said, "holy shit I hope I can get tickets to that!"

Re:ten hours after the *initial* crash? (1)

evilviper (135110) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207940)

was there a second crash?

Not yet, but we're working on it.

Re:ten hours after the *initial* crash? (3, Funny)

damn_registrars (1103043) | more than 3 years ago | (#33208116)

Rumor has it the plane was running Windows ME, so it crashed, came back up, and then crashed again.

RIP (1, Insightful)

mark72005 (1233572) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207566)

RIP

You callous bastard! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33207652)

Don't you think it's a bit early for jokes? [wikipedia.org]

Slashdot has really gone down the tubes these days.

No, we don't. (2, Funny)

jra (5600) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207906)

"AK Senator Ted Stevens dies in a plane crash; Internet goes back to being made up of routers and fiber."

It's a shame there were others on the plane (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33207572)

Otherwise the tag "andnothingofvaluewaslost" would be appropriate here.

Re:It's a shame there were others on the plane (5, Interesting)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207824)

Because you don't know any Alaska history.

Ted was pretty influential in getting the Eisenhower Administration to go along with Alaska Statehood, oh and Ted astroturfed Ike's press conferences with questions about Alaska's statehood too.

A quick benediction (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33207588)

Just remember, the Internet is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes. And if you don't understand, those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it's going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material.

Perhaps travel by tube would be safer next time?

Re:A quick benediction (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33207694)

Just remember, you're an asshole and will probably always be an asshole. Maybe someday you will also be old, and there will be things that are new to you, and hopefully the new generation will heap the same kinds of derision on you.

Re:A quick benediction (3, Funny)

Fiduciary (1605801) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207798)

Just remember, you're an asshole and will probably always be an asshole. Maybe someday you will also be old, and there will be things that are new to you, and hopefully the new generation will heap the same kinds of derision on you.

We can only hope that the next generation will not allow us to hold office so long we become totally detached from the people we represent.. That is, if we can get the last generation out of office by then.

Re:A quick benediction (1)

hardburn (141468) | more than 3 years ago | (#33208162)

Thing is, Stevens was probably as in-tune to the people of Alaska as he needed to be. Even with a heap of scandals, he lost only by slim margins. The Bridge to Nowhere would have been a boon to the local contractors, and that's just one in a list of pork projects Stevens funneled in (usually with more success).

Senators supposedly represent just one state, not the whole country.

Re:A quick benediction (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33208060)

People in office don't get to play the old card.

It's true (4, Informative)

ak_hepcat (468765) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207590)

Senator Stevens did perish in the crash. The fates of the other 8 on board have not yet been released to the public or media as of 11:10am AST.

Re:It's true (2, Funny)

Ambiguous Coward (205751) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207872)

Died, or FAKED HIS OWN DEATH?

Re:It's true (1)

Threni (635302) | more than 3 years ago | (#33208160)

I trust your source - whoever it is.

He just found in Hades... (3, Funny)

GPLDAN (732269) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207626)

Turns out the bridge goes nowhere...

Re:He just found in Hades... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33207684)

Turns out the bridge goes nowhere...

Even the devil...
...sometoimes enjoys roast pork.
*doublesunglasses*
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA---

Re:He just found in Hades... (4, Funny)

dkleinsc (563838) | more than 3 years ago | (#33208068)

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA---

What, Howard Dean is there too?

Re:He just found in Hades... (4, Funny)

GPLDAN (732269) | more than 3 years ago | (#33208072)

When reached in Hades for comment, Stevens had this to say:

"Ten airplanes flying across that, that state, and what happens to your own airplane? I just the other day got...an airplane was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday. I got it yesterday. Why? Because it got tangled up with all these things flying commercially."

"They want to deliver vast amounts of people over the state. And again, the airspace is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big duck. It's a series of tubesocks. And if you don't understand, those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your flight in, it gets in line and it's going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that airspace enormous amounts of airplanes, enormous amounts of airplanes."

86 years is a long time .. (4, Insightful)

achyuta (1236050) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207640)

.. to make friends and memories. Its a shame he and the other unlucky ones aboard that plane didn't have a chance to say a few words to their loved ones before their end. May their souls rest in peace. Condolences to their families.

Re:86 years is a long time .. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33207728)

Good FUCKING grief. Save it for your grandma, Achyuta.

Safe journey, Ted (4, Funny)

sznupi (719324) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207642)

We can only hope you have found the tube meant for you.

A plane is very much like the Internet... (-1, Redundant)

Alien1024 (1742918) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207648)

...in the sense that it's not a big truck, it's a series of tubes. And if you don't understand, those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you are flying, it gets in line and it's going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material.

Seriously though, rest in peace.

Re:A plane is very much like the Internet... (1)

socsoc (1116769) | more than 3 years ago | (#33208124)

It's called a fuselage, not a tube. Or did you mean approach patterns? Either way, makes no sense. Seriously though, thank god one less politician.

O'Keefe is "Banged Up", but OK (4, Informative)

ultraexactzz (546422) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207698)

According to http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewnews.html?id=1419 [spaceref.com] , Sean O'Keefe (and his son) both survived the crash, though they are "...banged up". This, per a family source.

I helped jack off the horse (0, Offtopic)

Rakshasa Taisab (244699) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207730)

Please don't capitalize words like 'plane crash' unless you're talking about a movie or something.

Re:I helped jack off the horse (1)

bcmm (768152) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207964)

It's an article title, which are always capitalised apart from words like "and".

Not his first crash (4, Informative)

kaizendojo (956951) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207764)

Shortly after being elected to his second full term in 1978, he was aboard a private jet that went down at Anchorage International Airport, killing his first wife, Ann.

Re:Not his first crash (2, Insightful)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#33208010)

Alaska, due to the massive standard deviation in topograpy, frequently abysmal weather, and the necessity of covering its vast area for which there is almost no infrastructure, is the nation's (and possibly the world's) epicenter for aircraft incidents, per capita (California has more total from 2008 to 2010, Texas just barely fewer, but neither comes close per citizen).

Throw in the sort of personality that likes living and flying airplanes there, and you get more excursions into any envelope of safety. Even when reducing risktaking deliberately they reduce it less than most people would.

The numbers aren't quite up to where you can expect to crash in an aircraft at least once in your life if you live all of it in Alaska, but there's probably an actuary somewhere who has it as a trigger for an extra calculation in his database.

This is news because... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33207768)

...one of the dudes on the plane made some internet tube comparison. Is that the main reason why this story is posted? Surely there must be some other news more relevant to discuss rather than this one.

Big Ted (4, Insightful)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207770)

Big Ted
Big Ted

Every morning at the senate, you could see him arrive.
He stood 5 foot 6, weighed 145.
Kind of broad at the hips and narrow of mind.
And everybody knew you had to pay to play with Big Ted.

Big Ted
Big Ted
Big Bad Ted

Re:Big Ted (1)

irving47 (73147) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207994)

That.... sounds familiar.

Big fat dumb dead Irving... the 142nd fastest gun... In the West.

R.I.P. Sen. Tubes (4, Funny)

RAMMS+EIN (578166) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207776)

Sen. Tubes: 1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss

%

My heartfelt sympathy goes out to those of us still living who held the perished ones dear.

why the hell is this news in the slashdot (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33207782)

why the hell is this news in the slashdot?? how is this WORLD (not USA) news worthy?

Re:why the hell is this news in the slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33207812)

Fuck the "world".

Re:why the hell is this news in the slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33207882)

Because when the USA farts, the rest of the world happily gets in line for a sniff.

Re:why the hell is this news in the slashdot (1)

mevets (322601) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207896)

He did add a colourful, if vacuous, terminology to describe the internet. The general expression is now something like:
(inner|inter|\')(net|tube)s?
I'm quite fond of innertubes, because it sounds a lot more fun than the stuff on computers.

Re:why the hell is this news in the slashdot (1)

StayFrosty (1521445) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207904)

why the hell is this news in the slashdot?? how is this WORLD (not USA) news worthy?

Apparently you didn't RTFM. [slashdot.org] From the linked FAQ:

Slashdot is U.S.-centric. We readily admit this, and really don't see it as a problem. Slashdot is run by Americans, after all, and the vast majority of our readership is in the U.S.

And so he's off to the series of tubes in the sky! (3, Funny)

Kuukai (865890) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207842)

Unfortunately, since his staff didn't mail his soul until Monday, it's not going to get to where it's going until Thursday. Until then he's still technically alive.

OH NOES! (2, Insightful)

HeckRuler (1369601) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207852)

If only he had traveled by tube!
But really, as much as I dislike the guy, and as poor at his job as he was, if he's really dead then these comments are going to be in poor taste and my heart goes out to his family. Hopefully everyone is ok.

10,000 easy tube jokes (1, Insightful)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207862)

the guy's dead, show some sensitivity

hating his politics should not be about forgetting your humanity. then perhaps you are worse than whatever you ridicule about ted stevens

Re:10,000 easy tube jokes (3, Insightful)

Joe U (443617) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207960)

His part in the destruction of American politics for personal gain should be overlooked, after all he died and is now a saint.

Re:10,000 easy tube jokes (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33207992)

Haha, you're kidding right. The guy was totally out of touch with reality and made decisions affecting peoples lives. If HE had any humanity he would have got the fuck out of government long long ago, but no he's a greedy corrupt bastard like them all. Good riddance one less incompetent ass running the country further into the ground.

Re:10,000 easy tube jokes (1)

b4dc0d3r (1268512) | more than 3 years ago | (#33208080)

Sorry, my monkeyshpere is full. Trying to care... unsuccessful.

Re:10,000 easy tube jokes (1)

socsoc (1116769) | more than 3 years ago | (#33208182)

He was 87 and a senator. That isn't a human, he was an alien plant.

I don't want to be an asshole... (1)

darkmeridian (119044) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207866)

... or inspire a debate on the true meaning of "ironic" but having the head of a leading aerospace firm and the former head of NASA die on an airplane seems kind of, well, ironic.

Re:I don't want to be an asshole... (1)

binarylarry (1338699) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207954)

Not only that but they also had Ted Stevens, an active duty space cadet.

Re:I don't want to be an asshole... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33208128)

...having the head of a leading aerospace firm and the former head of NASA die on an airplane seems kind of, well, ironic

So, were you listening to Alanis Morissette and you thought of that, or did you think of that and then go listen to Alanis Morissette?

Angle for /.ers: (3, Informative)

Relic of the Future (118669) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207900)

An angle on the story that might be of interest to /.ers:

The plane, and the lodge it was flying to, are owned by GCI.

GCI is a large (the largest?) local cable/wireless/internet provider in Alaska.

Most likely, Ted "Series of Tubes" Stevens was prepping/being prepped for a new telecom lobbying gig; his two-year senate-lobbying exclusion window would have closed at the end of the year.

I don't want to disparage the man, not today; but I thought /. would like to know.

Re:Angle for /.ers: (2, Insightful)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207966)

Or they were just going fishing because they were friends with the CEO of GCI.

GCI doesn't have the clout to lobby as a "telecom" on the national scale, but perhaps they were going to push for that cable around Alaska to get high speed data to the Bush.

But using Stevens to lobby against a Democratic majority right now seems ill timed.

Re:Angle for /.ers: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33208140)

ACS is the largest, and also my employer :-)

Farewell (3, Funny)

bluie- (1172769) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207920)

Farewell sir, may your journey onward be clogless in a big truck.

A sad day for America (2, Insightful)

DoofusOfDeath (636671) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207922)

I'm not sad because these particular guys died. I'm sad because my first thought when I heard that some former lawmakers and corporate executives died is, "Good, probably served them right."

I guess this says a lot about me, but I'm afraid it says even more about the overall state of our country.

Re:A sad day for America (4, Interesting)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 3 years ago | (#33208090)

Sad day because he was the driving force in the only truly fair compensation program for American Indians/Alaska Natives in the history of the United States. 44 million acres and 15 billion dollars.

And he pushed the Alaska Pipeline, Denali Commission, Magnuson-Stevens Act, voted against the impeachment of President Clinton.

So why do you think death served him right?

Nope, just you (2, Interesting)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#33208144)

I guess this says a lot about me, but I'm afraid it says even more about the overall state of our country.

Not really. Business owners are the same as they have always been, there are a few bad ones but a lot of decent executives simply trying to make the company work better.

Basically you have been brainwashed into thinking any executive is evil, even though you never heard the name of a single company. You have started to wake up, think long and hard about why your first thought was that it was good any given company executive should perish. You can change your preconceptions.

Re:A sad day for America (2, Informative)

mooingyak (720677) | more than 3 years ago | (#33208174)

You are not alone in that reaction.

And just so this isn't a "me too!" post, I found this tidbit from the article somewhat irritating:

“Last night, Alaska lost a hero and I lost a dear friend,” Senator Murkowski said in a statement. “The thought of losing Ted Stevens, a man who was known to business and community leaders, Native chiefs and everyday Alaskans as ‘Uncle Ted,’ is too difficult to fathom. His entire life was dedicated to public service — from his days as a pilot in World War II to his four decades of service in the United States Senate. He truly was the greatest of the ‘Greatest Generation.’ ”

Not quite the Ted Stevens I'm familiar with...

Leave it to slashdot... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33207934)

...to slam his ass on the door on his way out.

Way to go. Stay classy!

These things happen... (1)

CyberPhart (954001) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207944)

So it goes. Cover 'em over before he stinks, boys...

It's too soon for "Bye Bye American Pie" jokes (1)

Anita Coney (648748) | more than 3 years ago | (#33207980)

Just kidding. Let 'em rip.

N455A (1)

ShaunC (203807) | more than 3 years ago | (#33208036)

CNN is reporting that the tail number of the plane was N455A (N45A having been assigned elsewhere in 2002). The geek in me got a smile out of that. I'm glad to hear that O'Keefe is apparently alive.

prediction of conspiracy theory (1)

irving47 (73147) | more than 3 years ago | (#33208042)

My prediction is that on Coast to Coast AM, "science advisor" Richard C. Hoa(x | g)land will be on the air and commenting that since this was a NASA administrator, they were all getting together to discuss a disclosure about ET's or artifacts on The Mars or Moon. They were done away with by the secret people, and we should all demand answers, so forth, so on, etc...

Wow I am super-cynical today.

Posts are really late (1, Informative)

dxk3355 (987361) | more than 3 years ago | (#33208078)

Has anyone noticed that stories on Slashdot are showing up well after everyone has heard them from every other source? Why bother reporting it if you're going to report it the day after everyone has heard it.

What were Ted Stevens and Sean O'Keffe doing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33208180)

Why were Ted Stevens and Sean O'Keffe, now head of EADS North America doing on the same airplane in Alaska?

If Ted Stevens was engaged in lobbying, I'm glad he's dead, and hope there are more lobbyist fatalities in the future?

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