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Facebook Takes On FourSquare

CmdrTaco posted more than 4 years ago | from the no-thank-you dept.

Social Networks 220

An anonymous reader writes "Facebook Places is similar to FourSquare. You can go to places, 'check-in' so your friends know you're there, rate them, comment on them, and generally spew your opinions all over the internet as fast as your fingers can hit the keys. It's an obvious attempt by the company to muscle in on FourSquare's block, casting its influence ever further over us all." Now the question is, who at FourSquare turned down the offer, and how badly are they crapping their pants?

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frist psot! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33275678)

1st1st1st1st1st1st1st1st lol

@Facebook (5, Funny)

doroshjt (1044472) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275724)

@Facebook has just ousted @Foursquare as the mayor of useless crap.

Re:@Facebook (1, Funny)

GodWasAnAlien (206300) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276190)

Foursquare is cool.

But you should give Kickball a try.

Re:@Facebook (2, Insightful)

Foofoobar (318279) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276528)

The funny thing is that there is a startup called Pelago that was creating a knockoff of Four Square too. Guess they are dead in the water.

Re:@Facebook (1)

ProppaT (557551) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276718)

Not as long as #Twitter is still around.

Four Square (4, Insightful)

ojintoad (1310811) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275728)

If Facebook takes over an app I never heard of or ever will use, and some blogger tries to tenuously relate it to the totalitarian state taking over our lives, and a tree falls on a mime in the woods, and I go on using email and ignoring Facebook like I know so many other people do, do I care?

Re:Four Square (5, Insightful)

e065c8515d206cb0e190 (1785896) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275736)

You cared enough to comment on it apparently.

Re:Four Square (2, Interesting)

east coast (590680) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275806)

That's what I was thinking but it's now cool to be jaded on Slashdot. Acting like you're too old school to give a crap about anything used by the social networking folks is now hip.

Re:Four Square (3, Funny)

SnowDog74 (745848) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275958)

I hear every bar that you go to is more relevant than every bar I go to.

Re:Four Square (3, Funny)

Americano (920576) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276180)

That's true. You should totally try my favorite bar, but it's pretty underground, so trust me, you've never heard of it.

Re:Four Square (5, Funny)

SnowDog74 (745848) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276338)

I listen to bands so obscure they haven't been formed yet.

Re:Four Square (1)

Americano (920576) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276666)

That's so 2001. The new hotness is to listen to bands that only released one album, and then broke up after the lead singer's death by heroin overdose.

It's pretty specific criteria, that's how you know the music must be good. And you can spend hours speculating on your blog about how amazing the music would have been, if the guy hadn't died.

Shit, I just spilled vanilla soy chai on my hoodie.

Re:Four Square (4, Funny)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276410)

Someone should totally open up a bar for programmers. Just call it the Progress Bar.

Re:Four Square (5, Insightful)

KarrdeSW (996917) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276478)

Someone should totally open up a bar for programmers. Just call it the Progress Bar.

That's more like a bar for the IT workers that install software on corporate computers all day.

All the cool programmers drink at the Foo Bar

Re:Four Square (1)

Americano (920576) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276632)

All the cool programmers drink at the Foo Bar

With all the soldiers, sailors, and airmen who don't particularly think that geeks making cutesy geek words out of their acronyms are amusing? Great plan!

I'll take the Seal team on the left, you take the Ranger battalion on the right.

Re:Four Square (3, Interesting)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275990)

That's what I was thinking but it's now cool to be jaded on Slashdot. Acting like you're too old school to give a crap about anything used by the social networking folks is now hip.

Well, I don't know about hip ... mine aches from time to time, but I don't think that's what you mean. :-P

But, some of us are old and jaded and don't get the whole social networking thing. Some of this stuff just reminds me of stuff I got bored with in the early-mid 90's and stopped using. Some of the technologies are the same, but it's largely the same inane gibberish as before.

Heck, even my 70 year old mother doesn't trust Facebook and has stopped using it. She finds it's more crap than useful. (I was more surprised she ever used it than that she had given up on it and largely stopped using it.)

Re:Four Square (1)

east coast (590680) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276216)

That's all fine and well but do you stop at every article that you have no interest in and explain yourself? If not, why do it here?

Re:Four Square (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276378)

That's all fine and well but do you stop at every article that you have no interest in and explain yourself? If not, why do it here?

No, but I read the articles that seem like they'll be interesting and respond to the salient points that people make.

Counting old and jaded folks like myself as "hip" seemed interesting enough to respond to. I mean, I've never been lumped in with the hipsters before, so the assertion just seemed ... unusual.

I was merely pointing out that some of us really are old and jaded, and (as ever), anything but hip. I mean, is crotchety the new black or something? Are people really going around pretending to be old-skool and indifferent to this stuff?

Maybe you're more making a (potentially valid) observation that Slashdot now has an increasing amount of old school geeks who really do look at some of this new-fangled hotness as kind of pointless.

I wouldn't have merely chimed in to say "who cares", but what you said actually merited a response, precisely because it implies that people are merely acting like they don't see the point because it's trendy or something.

Re:Four Square (1)

east coast (590680) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276600)

To me there is a difference between being jaded and indifferent. The question is which one are you, really?

If you're jaded, to me, it means that you were interested at one point and you've lost touch with that interest. The indifferent person never cared in the first place and simply doesn't give a damn.

I choose to skip over the stuff I think is pointless. To bother to sit around and debate over something you have no interest in makes me wonder about how much free time someone has. Sorry but I'm ust being honest about it.

Re:Four Square (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276728)

If you're jaded, to me, it means that you were interested at one point and you've lost touch with that interest. The indifferent person never cared in the first place and simply doesn't give a damn.

Definitely jaded. Sunk way too many hours into usenet and IRC in the 90s, completely lost interest in it. All of the stuff that came afterwards just seems like variations on a theme that doesn't really bring anything new to the table -- except for a new generation of users that never used it in the last iteration of the technology and think they've discovered something new the world has never seen.

To bother to sit around and debate over something you have no interest in makes me wonder about how much free time someone has. Sorry but I'm ust being honest about it.

*laugh* Well, I might point out you're taking an awful lot of time to kvetch about the fact that other people are posting in the thread. :-P

Hell, you're meta-kvetching -- you're complaining about the fact that people are taking the time to complain about things they don't care about. So, either you care about what other people don't care about, or you don't care about what other people don't care about ... the latter is just too wacky to contemplate. ;-)

Cheers

Re:Four Square (1)

poetmatt (793785) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276222)

People are pretty much waiting for a replacement to current social networking. I give it 3-5 years tops for something ad-hoc to replace facebook.

Re:Four Square (1)

east coast (590680) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276426)

People are pretty much waiting for a replacement to current social networking.

Maybe around here but not the population in general. Facebook has been on a steep curve of growth over the past year. More and more people are eating it up.

And as far as what people around here want? Don't make any bets on it. I've been here a long time and if I put money down on what the future of most technology would be from the majority around here I would be broke today. I've been hearing for years about replacements for Adobe, Apple, Microsoft, Sony, so on and so on... None of it has ever happened. I think the only time I ever read one of these predictions and said it wouldn't happen and turned out to be wrong was with WoW vs. EQ. I'm still shocked to this day but I'm confident in that the number of times I've said that Slashdot was wrong on an issue I've been right.

Facebook will go away in time, sure, but I don't think social networking is going to make a big change in structure.

Re:Four Square (3, Insightful)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276594)

And as far as what people around here want? Don't make any bets on it. I've been here a long time and if I put money down on what the future of most technology would be from the majority around here I would be broke today.

Slashdot would be the worst possible indicator of a technology which would be successful in the future.

If Slashdot could predict successful tech, we'd all be using ogg-vorbis, the Year of the Linux Desktop would have happened by now, and Apple wouldn't have sold 3+ million iPads. :-P

We see technology through an entirely different lens than the consumer public. And we're have really bad tunnel vision.

Re:Four Square (3, Insightful)

clarkkent09 (1104833) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276556)

I don't have a problem with social networking per se but the most popular ones (facebook, twitter, is something called myspace still around?) reek of insecurity and neediness to the extent that is pretty pathetic and easy to make fun of. It's the same thing as obsessive texting among teenage girls, the urge to be constantly in contact with somebody, anybody, to keep from even one second of feeling alone in the big bad world. Actually, if I do have a problem with it it is that being in contact with all the people you know, all the time, can easily mean too much interaction and too much worthless information and less quiet time for reflection. To paraphrase Ford Prefect, if humans don't keep constantly exercising their lips (in this case fingers on the keyboard) their brains might start working.

Re:Four Square (1)

CFD339 (795926) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276818)

That's what I was thinking but it's now cool to be jaded on Slashdot. Acting like you're too old school to give a crap about anything used by the social networking folks is now hip.

    Finally, I am ahead of a trend on the interwebs!

Re:Four Square (1)

ObsessiveMathsFreak (773371) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276304)

Be aware though, that the motivation required to write a Slashdot post is pretty low.

Re:Four Square (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33276604)

Evidently.

Re:Four Square (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33275770)

If Facebook takes over an app I never heard of or ever will use, and some blogger tries to tenuously relate it to the totalitarian state taking over our lives, and a tree falls on a mime in the woods, and I go on using email and ignoring Facebook like I know so many other people do, do I care?

As long the tree falls on the mime, it's all good, man.

Re:Four Square (4, Insightful)

BStroms (1875462) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275922)

Facebook has its uses. Especially for those with a large family living all over the country. It's an efficient way to keep up with what's going on in their lives. Other than the occasional snide comment made in response to someone else's post, that's really all I use it for. Granted being a typical slashdot user, there's nothing interesting enough in my life to post in the first place (even if that doesn't stop most other people.)

Still as much of a pain as it is to block all the annoying features of facebook, it becomes a useful tool in the end.

Re:Four Square (2, Insightful)

RevRagnarok (583910) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276282)

Agreed. That's how I got into it - had a baby and most of my family live a six hour drive away. By posting updates to FB, I'm not inundated with phone calls of, "how's the baby?" or "send more pictures!"

Re:Four Square (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33276106)

Oh, look at me, I'm unaware of basic trends in modern technology. I'm so cool.

Re:Four Square (4, Insightful)

Americano (920576) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276560)

As someone who ostensibly cares about technology, being here on Slashdot, why would you not be interested in hearing about geolocation applications, what they can do, and why people are using them?

Is it that you're "too cool" for anything that might involve (or even *EASE*, for those of us who are a bit awkward) social interaction, even if it is one of the more interesting recent developments in consumer tech? Take a look at all of the "Augmented Reality" type apps out there, and tell me there's not some interesting technological potential in them. The idea that you can have a device in your pocket, pull it out, and within 30 seconds be looking for "cool shit to do near where I'm standing," is amazing, because if it's built up enough to have data, you're going to start seeing more and more of the cool local shit that never gets much advertising, but is still really cool to experience - think little local restaurants that don't advertise, but have a rabid local following - wouldn't it be neat to be able to find those places easily, no matter where you are, instead of another bland steak at Friday's, because "Well, I recognize the sign, and I don't know this town."

There are obvious privacy and security concerns relevant to these kinds of apps - those are interesting technological challenges. The apps themselves are a really fascinating application of multiple technologies in a novel way. So really, the question is: why would you NOT be interested to hear a bit about the apps, and how they're being used, if you're interested enough in technology to be here reading this stuff?

Re:Four Square (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33276812)

There are obvious privacy and security concerns relevant to these kinds of apps

Maybe there's your answer? The problem is that these services don't exist to service users but to generate advertisement consumers; with all its negative consequences for users.

Re:Four Square (0, Flamebait)

Michael Kristopeit (1751814) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276660)

casting its influence ever further over us all.

keep prophetizing facebook, and forcing a claimed group dynamic on your users, slashdot editors. YOU ARE LYING TO PEOPLE. facebook has ZERO influence over me, and always will.

Heh! (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33275732)

rate them, comment on them, and generally spew your opinions all over the internet as fast as your fingers can hit the keys.

Kinda funny when you think about it. A Slashdotter seeming to poke fun or have a bit of disgust for people who babble on and on about something... Doesn't sound like this place at all. Oh no.

Re:Heh! (4, Funny)

Rhaban (987410) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275760)

The difference is, on /. we only babble about stuff that matters. It's written on the top of the page, so it must be true.

Re:Heh! (0, Offtopic)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275788)

idle section much?

Question about Foursquare (4, Insightful)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275746)

I know what people do with it, but why do they do it?

Re:Question about Foursquare (2, Funny)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275814)

I know what people do with it, but why do they do it?

They long dreamily for the stalkers the rest of us have and don't want.

you've been quiet for awhile (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275988)

avoiding me?

but thank you for posting

now i have a fix on your ip from the backdoor i installed on slashdot just on the offchance you might post here again. it was a perilous operation getting that backdoor installed but it just makes the payoff today that much sweeter. note to slashdot: you didn't really need an exterminator, i planted that ant colony

now its just a quick geolocation, then i'll pack my plastic ties and knives, and i'll be on my way

i'm coming for you baby, it won't be long now, soon we will be together forever in the sweet hereafter, the way it should have been all those years ago. why oh why did you try to run?

Re:Question about Foursquare (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33276298)

Everyone online has been in a stalker relationship. If you're sitting there thinking "I haven't", you're the stalker.

Re:Question about Foursquare (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276412)

They long dreamily for the stalkers the rest of us have and don't want.

Wait ... so, the electric sheep are the ones dreaming now? ;-)

Easy Answer (5, Insightful)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275840)

I know what people do with it, but why do they do it?

The same could be said of that post you just posted. I know what you do on Slashdot but why do you do it?

And I think the answer is very simple: communication with a nominal reward. People love debate and communication and giving advice and the like. Just because FourSquare focuses on restaurants and eateries doesn't make it any less pointless than our banter and talk of tech here on Slashdot. It simply has a different target market. It might be bigger, it might be smaller but it's something evidently.

"I'm Mayor of the 1st St. Chipotle" vs "I just got a +5 Insightful on this post!" Simple meaningless reward that means something to the user.

Think of it like a game. Personally I think it's worthless but I wouldn't consider myself very keen on the internet if I didn't realize what it does effectively and how it appeals to the users. Of course that means eyeballs and of course Facebook wants their users to lock in and stay. Maybe they'll make a native FourSquare to Facebook to appeal to that market?

Re:Easy Answer (-1, Offtopic)

dargon (105684) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276012)

If I had mod points, you'd get 1.

Re:Easy Answer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33276550)

Because at starbucks I get discounts for being the mayor?

Re:Question about Foursquare (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33275900)

Starbucks had a special offering the mayor a cheap drink. There is a bar nearby me that offers a free sandwich or drink or something like that to the mayor. I'm sure real cities have even more specials going on. That is one reason.

Re:Question about Foursquare (3, Insightful)

alen (225700) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276102)

because it's OCD addictive like Farmville for a few weeks until you get tired of it

few months ago Robert Scoble wrote a column about Four Square, Blippy and a few other services where he actually took it seriously.

but it's fairly useful. i found a few lunch places due to foursquare reviews

in the end it's one of those kiddy everyone wants to know what i'm doing internet thingies. i've noticed my soon to be 3 year old son acts out when he wants attention. same thing with all these new location services. a lot of kids didn't get enough attention so now they are trying to get it via the internet.

Re:Question about Foursquare (2, Interesting)

alen (225700) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276142)

some idiots actually add their homes and cars to it and check in at home. one of these days if i'm bored i might start checking in at other people's houses just to see if they notice.

one annoying thing is that there is no real database of places. it's all community added and i've stood in front of a business and foursquare said i was 100 meters away or some other ridiculous distance. probably because someone added it while standing far away. foursquare needs to build a real database of locations and their coordinates

Re:Question about Foursquare (3, Interesting)

SydShamino (547793) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276198)

My wife likes Gowalla because, at least at first, it was more of a geocaching game than a social networking application. She was one of their first users, starting with its premiere at SXSW two years ago. At the time you could go around creating sites everywhere (because none existed yet), collecting "items" that would be found at locations, and completing item sets. You could also create "trips" by linking together sites. She designed a trip to see the sights at a nearby university, and one to visit all the major public art installations in the city.

Now most places already have a Gowalla site, and she has most all of the items, so it's more about checking in to see who's been there. Believe it or not, when we were in Chicago last week for Lollapalooza, she found one of her Gowalla friends (another early adopter who she met because they kept noticing sites created by each other) had checked in at many of the same places we had the previous day, during an architecture tour. Turned out that he was in town, too, and when she thought she saw him on the street a few days before, she likely had. Oh, one of her old coworkers was there, too, and she saw his check-ins.

Meanwhile her tour of the university if one of the most followed public tours in the system. They now allow you to create private tours that only you and your friends can see, but if you're going somewhere new you can locate someone who lives there, temporarily get into their friend network, and see if there are any cool tours to visit. While in Chicago we really wanted to do the tour of Frank Lloyd Wright houses, all conveniently mapped out in Gowalla on her iPhone, but we didn't have a car.

Oh, you can also see what restaurants and businesses are nearby. You know all those small local restaurants that still don't have a web presence and thus still don't show up well in Google location searches? If they're good, someone has made a site for them on Gowalla, and you'll see them with reviews when you're nearby.

Anyway, that's why she uses it. Slashdot is as close as I get to social networking.

Re:Question about Foursquare (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33276354)

Anyway, that's why she uses it. Slashdot is as close as I get to social networking.

Sounds like your wife knows how to party. It must be love if she's still dragging your luddite ass around. :)

Re:Question about Foursquare (1)

jdossey (172868) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276314)

For the free appetizer at Chili's

Re:Question about Foursquare (1)

tophermeyer (1573841) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276672)

You joke, but one of my coworkers is in some kind of competition to be the Mayor of the nearby Starbucks. Apparently they offer some kind of discount to whoever is the current Mayor.

She thinks she's saving money with that 10% discount on the 3+ lattes she's buying there everyday.

Re:Question about Foursquare (1)

Nematode (197503) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276372)

It's a daredevil thrill. Announce in real time to all your friends, acquaintances, and wellwishers that you're 30 miles from home, then see if any of them are nervy enough to burglarize you while you're out.

It's like a lower-stakes Russian Roulette!

All of us? (-1, Offtopic)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275756)

I quit Facebook. and I quit Twitter. Accounts deleted. I never used Foursquare, because it reminds of the game the retarded kids have to play at recess. In fact, given what I know if it, its pretty apt. SO, who is this "all of us" that these companies have a hold on?

Re:All of us? (3, Informative)

kalirion (728907) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275826)

I never used Foursquare, because it reminds of the game the retarded kids have to play at recess.

Yes, because any activity involving even the slightest bit of exercise is only for the "retarded".

Re:All of us? (-1, Troll)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275904)

No, I mean the retarded kids. Like with helmets.

Re:All of us? (2, Funny)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275932)

I never used Foursquare, because it reminds of the game the retarded kids have to play at recess.

You obviously never played foursquare with weightlifters using a bouncy medicine ball...shit is intense.

Foursquare was always missing that one thing (1)

mrmaster (535266) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275776)

I use foursquare and it can be quite helpful when in a new town for a night of partying. However, it is missing something. Badges are sorta cool but it is super easy for people to cheat. It's very open ended which is also good but it should give me more incentive to use it. I may hate facebook but I do have it on my phone. Maybe foursquared patented certain things? I really don't know. Oh, and does anyone know a stalker by the name of Topguest?

Re:Foursquare was always missing that one thing (2, Insightful)

biryokumaru (822262) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275870)

I use foursquare and it can be quite helpful when in a new town for a night of partying.

And now we know why regular slashdotters don't use it...

Re:Foursquare was always missing that one thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33275878)

Check out SCVNGR

ZOMG Facebook Took Over "dontpaniconline" TOO (-1, Offtopic)

idontgno (624372) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275798)

"Server is too busy. Please try visiting us in a few minutes."

No, wait, that's Slashdot taking over that blog. Never mind. Carry on.

(So much for reading TFA.)

journalism of this slashdot article (-1, Offtopic)

digitalsushi (137809) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275800)

Is actually awesome; Taco asks who is crapping their pants, and my entitlement to complain about journalistic professionalism gets shut down by the realization that I come here to talk shop with other greasy dorks in our own vernacular.

Foursquare? Never heard of it. (1, Insightful)

Zontar_Thing_From_Ve (949321) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275808)

I use Facebook all the time. I've never heard of Foursquare. Is this another one of those "I use it, therefore I assume everybody uses it" kind of things?

Re:Foursquare? Never heard of it. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33275834)

Same here. I had never heard about it until someone on an airplane mentioned it to me. Sounds completely stupid too.

Re:Foursquare? Never heard of it. (2, Informative)

garcia (6573) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275866)

I use Facebook all the time. I've never heard of Foursquare. Is this another one of those "I use it, therefore I assume everybody uses it" kind of things?

No, it's been all over CNN and the rest of the major news outlets. They have big deals with tons of different big name museums, etc. It's "another one of those 'If you read the news you should know what it is' kind of things". But hey I totally agree with you. While I know what it is, I choose not to use it even though I was a pretty heavy Dodgeball user (its predecessor which was bought out by Google and then killed) back in the day.

Re:Foursquare? Never heard of it. (1)

characterZer0 (138196) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276656)

s/If you read the news/If you watch advertisements and infotainment/

Re:Foursquare? Never heard of it. (1)

Americano (920576) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276766)

It's been discussed here on Slashdot previously, and many of the stories involving twitter, geotagging, facebook, and location-aware applications have had discussions mentioning it (and similar services, like Gowalla).

You post here on Slashdot, and yet you don't even read the headlines?

Re:Foursquare? Never heard of it. (1)

SnowDog74 (745848) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275966)

Either you have a life, or you're feigning ignorance trying to one up us all... damn hipsters.

Re:Foursquare? Never heard of it. (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276194)

Either you have a life, or you're feigning ignorance trying to one up us all... damn hipsters.

Hipsters? What, not knowing or caring what people on Facebook are doing makes me a hipster? Friggin' awesome!!

Now, get off my cool, hip lawn as I go back to ignoring your social networking craze altogether. It's largely just recycling usenet and IRC/ICQ -- all of which got boring in the 90s for some of us.

Re:Foursquare? Never heard of it. (1)

SnowDog74 (745848) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276322)

IRC never had cool people. I know, I was one of them.

Re:Foursquare? Never heard of it. (2, Informative)

SydShamino (547793) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276100)

Foursquare, and its sister location-based social networking application Gowalla, were the darlings of this year's SXSW Interactive conference - the same conference where Twitter launched. I take it your not a web applications developer*, because if you were you would have followed SXSW and then you would have heard of Foursquare.

* Unlike most of Slashdot, which seem to be except when posting in this story. =p

Re:Foursquare? Never heard of it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33276220)

What's Facebook?

Re:Foursquare? Never heard of it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33276772)

Its a popular chain of shops in australia and new zealand. Its being going for decades.

just realized the truth (1)

konmpar (1822540) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275812)

"the mother of all social networking sites is taking another huge step for bored teenagers everywhere" bored??? nooooo........ just nothin to do with their lifes.... :D

100 Million lost? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33275850)

http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/04/08/149245/Foursquare-Turns-Down-100M

Re:100 Million lost? (1)

chichilalescu (1647065) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276720)

mod parent informative

I hate Foursquare (1)

RevRagnarok (583910) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275886)

1. The usual "please rob me since I am not at home" rant.
2. I actually follow an RSS twitter search of my (current) hometown. It was very useful when the snowpcalypse came because the state highway admin was actually posting useful updates. It went from 2-3 a day to about 10-15, and it is all "I'm here and you don't give a crap!" tweets.

Re:I hate Foursquare (1)

tlhIngan (30335) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276254)

1. The usual "please rob me since I am not at home" rant.

Ah, but the Facebook one is better! Now not only can you see if someone isn't at home, you can stalk their friends as well to see if they really aren't at home, or if they're just pretending to be not at home. Plus, you can see if the house is going to be empty by seeing if any family members are also on the friend list and seeing where they are. Plus, a peruse through the photos can tell you whether or not the family pet is harmless, a potential concern, or to be avoided. Plus, you can go see who's got the best stuff to be fenced, and probably a good idea where it's located and the possibly layout.

Please Rob Me / Foursquare lacks all these pre-research materials. The Facebook one lets potential robbers see what they can score, and what they're up against. Foursquare has nothing special compared to what Facebook has.

Facebook's one-upped Foursquare by making such pre-robbery research easier to do. Sure it doesn't eliminate the need to scope out the place, but a robber can now skip those places where there's nothing but junk and go straight to the big scores. What's not to love about Facebook doing it?

Re:I hate Foursquare (1)

Mongoose Disciple (722373) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276404)

We should start a pool on how long it'll be before we see a national-media news story about someone putting this "business model" into practice and being caught. Maybe a second pool could try to guess the media nickname of that perpetrator, e.g., "The Facebook Bandit".

This is why I hate Four Square (2, Informative)

rshxd (1875730) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275894)

I hate it when people double bounce the ball while playing four square

foursquare? Twitter? (1)

LinuxIsGarbage (1658307) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275936)

While I've always thought, and still think Twitter is generally useless, I can see some marginally useful applications of it. I cannot, however, see any point whatsoever in foursquare.

Re:foursquare? Twitter? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33276086)

I cannot, however, see any point whatsoever in foursquare.

It's a damn good thing that signing up for it isn't compulsory, then, isn't it?

Meanwhile, I'm the mayor of your lawn. Shout all you want.

Re:foursquare? Twitter? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33276148)

What a dork.

No use for user feedback? (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276124)

I cannot, however, see any point whatsoever in foursquare.

Do you also avoid consumer reviews of products when you go to buy something?

That seems like a bad idea. It seems equally silly to refuse to look at ratings of something like a restaurant you might want to try for the first time.

Even just the fact a lot of people have checked into a place means it must be decent.

Re:No use for user feedback? (1)

LinuxIsGarbage (1658307) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276264)

I cannot, however, see any point whatsoever in foursquare.

Do you also avoid consumer reviews of products when you go to buy something?

That seems like a bad idea. It seems equally silly to refuse to look at ratings of something like a restaurant you might want to try for the first time.

Even just the fact a lot of people have checked into a place means it must be decent.

But it's not the first or only venue to post reviews of restaurants.

Re:No use for user feedback? (2, Insightful)

Balthisar (649688) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276516)

>>Do you also avoid consumer reviews of products when you go to buy something? That seems like a bad idea. It seems equally silly to refuse to look at ratings of something like a restaurant you might want to try for the first time.

There's Zagat, Metro Times, and hundres of other resources for that.

>>Even just the fact a lot of people have checked into a place means it must be decent.

Oh, no no no no. That's completely wrong. I assume that people check into McDonald's and Starbucks all the time. And what's the demographic for Foursquare? Younger people? The ones who think all corporations are evil? That saving a single dollar is a make-it-or-break-it proposition? People that think they deserve everything for merely having been born? Not the same demographic, and thus very unlikely to have the same tastes. Your statement is kind of like, "Even just the fact that a lot of people voted for him means that he must be decent." The masses have no taste, especially the younger masses.

Foursquare and offers (3, Informative)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 4 years ago | (#33275992)

The guy who founded Foursquare's predecessor, Dodgeball, actually sold the business to Google, where it became Latitude. He was dissatisfied at that product's narrow scope, and set up Foursquare to revisit that niche the way he preferred. I imagine that Facebook put in a bid for Dodgeball and began work on Facebook Places after they were rejected.

Re:Foursquare and offers (2, Informative)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276030)

Actually now that I do some background reading, the Google sale took place back in 2005, so it's much too old for Facebook to have had a look in.

Re:Foursquare and offers (1)

telekon (185072) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276246)

The only thing Facebook hasn't tried to buy is 4chan.

Watch, now that I said that... the next hot new product == facebook.com/b/

Re:Foursquare and offers (1, Insightful)

turbotroll (1378271) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276530)

The only thing Facebook hasn't tried to buy is 4chan.

Watch, now that I said that... the next hot new product == facebook.com/b/

Acquisition of 4chan could only increase the intellectual value of Failbook.

Business as usual (1)

schmidt349 (690948) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276038)

"Its influence ever further?" Isn't this just good competition in the social networking space? Google is a far more monolithic company than Facebook, its goal being to have its hooks in all the world's information, and they've been trying to muscle in on social media as well (Buzz, Wave, Me, etc.). I haven't heard complaints about that.

When company B resists buyout by company A and company A then starts competing directly with company B, it's usually because company A had decided to move into company B's market to begin with and thought that the easiest way to get into the space would be to grab up and integrate an established player. Witness for instance Apple's strategic purchases of all sorts of companies associated with its mobile technologies. Recently they've gotten multitouch technology from FingerWorks and power-efficient mobile CPU tech from P.A. Semi, both of which ended up in their iOS devices.

Likewise, when Google decided to get into social networking for serious (as in not Orkut) they made an offer to buy Facebook, and when that fell through they started fiddling with things like Buzz, Wave, and now Me. Clearly social is a big part of Google's strategy going forward, and they tried to make that easier by grabbing up an established player.

So, Facebook clearly wanted in on the geolocation game, and their first move was to -- guess what -- buy up someone who already had some success in the business, FourSquare. When that fell through they decided to build their own product, which may or may not become a serious competitor to FourSquare. This is absolutely bog-standard business practice in Silicon Valley.

I guess next we'll hear that Facebook bought land for an office space in Nevada, and the headline on Slashdot will be "FACEBOOK PLANNING NEW AREA 51, GEOLOCATING DEMON BOTS TO SCOUR THE EARTH OF MYSPACE USERS."

Opinionated summary. (1)

mea37 (1201159) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276230)

I started out wanting to point out the internal contradiction in the perspective presented by the summary (who seems to support Foursquare, yet describes the very-similar service provided by Facebook in negative-sounding terms). Then I considered a general rant on what I think of Foursquare as a service in the first place; but I decided this might be an opportunity to address a broader question:

The majority around here seem to believe software should be outside the scope of patents. Even if we allow for software patents, I'm not sure what about Foursquare you would patent - but there might be something. If you exclude patents, there is nothing of value you could protect as intellectual property - i.e. nothing stoppnig a big player in the "social networking" space, such as Facebook, from doing exactly this to any new company that provides a unique service somehow related to social networking. You can copyright the code (though as I've posted before I think that's a bad retrofit of copyright law), but I don't need your code to implement a service. You can trademark various things, but I don't need them either.

So the submitter seems to think the innovation at Foursquare should be worth something, and that FB shouldn't get to swoop in and eat their lunch. Is it? If so, how should that be enforced?

Foursquare will be fine (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33276240)

Foursquare and Facebook Places both grew out of the very early Socialight (with Dodgeball mixed in to Foursquare).
Look where Mike and Naveen, two of the lead Socialight guys wound up... Mike (Facebook Mobile) and Naveen (Foursquare)
They both have similar outlooks on the location aspects of social networks but I'd bet that Facebook Places will be a platform that allows other services to work with it. (much like 3rd party Facebook Apps)
Foursquare will be fine.

YUO FAIL It (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33276276)

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"Crapping their pants"? (1)

turbotroll (1378271) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276402)

Now the question is, who at Four Square turned down the offer, and how badly are they crapping their pants?

Doing PR for Zuckerberg in your spare time, eh CmdrTaco? How utterly pathetic.

Antitrust? (1)

boxwood (1742976) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276470)

Facebook is starting to do things very similar to what Microsoft did when they bundled IE with windows. There are apps running on their platform and when they want control over those apps they simply bundle their app and integrate with the user interface in ways that aren't available.

And Facebook's marketshare is probably similar to what MS's was at the time. It is the most popular thing on the internet.

Who turned the offer down...? (2, Insightful)

Kalidor (94097) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276568)

Probably the same person that had decided that no one uses text messages anymore and supporting non-smartphones is not worth their time and non-smartphones supposedly no longer exist.

As it is I migrated to BrightKite a long time ago because their interface just worked better and I was never really interested in the gaming aspect of Foursquare. To me it's just a social proprioception tool.

My use case in case anyone wants to know. I have a tight knit group of friends and for 90% of my checkins only they get the updates. Conversly, I only get their alerts sent to me. Where this is useful, for me, is if I say go to the mall on Saturday.

*I check-in at the mall cause I need new socks.
*Fifteen minutes later friend A checks in at the mall
*This check-in generates an alert which gets SMS'd to my phone "A has checked in where you are!"
*I sms Friend A : "Hey I'm at the mall too. Why don't we grab lunch at Restaurant X?"

There, with little effort I now have a coincidental meet-up with a friend over lunch; this has significantly made my trip to the mall more enjoyable than just hunting for a good deal on socks. Silly, perhaps, but for all you know it maybe a friend I don't get to see that much offline.

Innovation (1)

kellyb9 (954229) | more than 4 years ago | (#33276768)

It amazes me that Facebook has thrived despite its inability to do something remotely original. They had one thing going for them back in the day that created their entire company - they took an idea like MySpace and its predecessors and focused it on a niche of social networking(college students). At this point, who's going to stop them, Four Square is far too small to compete, and its entire user base likely already has Facebook accounts.
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