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Russian Scholar Warns Of US Climate Change Weapon

samzenpus posted about 4 years ago | from the hurricane-cannon dept.

The Military 415

According to Russian political scientist, and conspiracy aficionado Andrei Areshev the high heat, and poor crop yields of Russia, and other Central Asian countries may be the result of a climate weapon created by the US military. From the article: "... Areshev voiced suspicions about the High-Frequency Active Aural Research Program (HAARP), funded by the US Defense Department and the University of Alaska. HAARP, which has long been the target of conspiracy theorists, analyzes the ionosphere and seeks to develop technologies to improve radio communications, surveillance, and missile detection. Areshev writes, however, that its true aim is to create new weapons of mass destruction 'in order to destabilize environmental and agricultural systems in local countries.'"

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Yeah (5, Funny)

Low Ranked Craig (1327799) | about 4 years ago | (#33288810)

But we'll stop if you pay us ONE MILLION DOLLARS!

Re:Yeah (1, Redundant)

commodore64_love (1445365) | about 4 years ago | (#33289698)

Hahahahahhahahahaha.

One million dollars? That's nothing. We waste that much just on the President Putin's executive bathroom.

No (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33288812)

... Actually. No.

Truth is perspective (3, Insightful)

alphatel (1450715) | about 4 years ago | (#33288820)

In Russia this type of propaganda is as acceptable as Americans whole believe Obama is not a US citizen.

Re:Truth is perspective (1, Interesting)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | about 4 years ago | (#33288906)

Or the moon landing [xkcd.com] .

(Obligatory I know, and someone else undoubtedly will beat me to it)

Re:Truth is perspective (1)

Bigjeff5 (1143585) | about 4 years ago | (#33289082)

(Obligatory I know, and someone else undoubtedly will beat me to it)

Nope, you got it first - you win the prize*!

*Contest prizes may not actually exist.

Re:Truth is perspective (3, Interesting)

nomadic (141991) | about 4 years ago | (#33289320)

In Russia this type of propaganda is as acceptable as Americans whole believe Obama is not a US citizen.

Of course, when someone in America believes in a crazy theory we get an avalanche of posts excoriating the American educational system for producing such a person, American culture for being so anti-intellectual, American politics, etc., which we don't seem to get when any other countries' conspiracy theorists get mentioned.

Re:Truth is perspective (4, Insightful)

DocSavage64109 (799754) | about 4 years ago | (#33289404)

Just because they have problems too doesn't mean we shouldn't strive to fix our own problems. Though working around a bunch of people who believe in god has permanently depressed my hopes for the world.

Re:Truth is perspective (3, Interesting)

cgenman (325138) | about 4 years ago | (#33289510)

Most people on Slashdot are in the US or Europe. Fixing Russia's educational system or culture is not our problem. People in the US and Europe who genuinely believe that hurricanes are caused by god's hatred of gay people, or that 9-11 was a conservative conspiracy to kill liberals, is our problem.

Re:Truth is perspective (1)

nomadic (141991) | about 4 years ago | (#33289562)

Most people on Slashdot are in the US or Europe. Fixing Russia's educational system or culture is not our problem.

How is fixing America's educational system or culture Europe's problem?

Re:Truth is perspective (3, Funny)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about 4 years ago | (#33289852)

How is fixing America's educational system or culture Europe's problem?

You want us to elect Sarah Palin as anything more important than the mayor of Wasilla?

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Re:Truth is perspective (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33289530)

But he is not a US citizen.

Russian propaganda channel (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33289676)

I don't have a television, but when I visited my family for a week, my dad showed me one of his favorite channels he gets since the digita: a Russian propaganda channel (sorry, "news" channel!) in the English language. It was amazing. It was like Fox News, except from the other direction. The talking heads were cute slavic chicks with Australian accents. The stories were about a variety of things, but several of them were either about something bad the U.S. was supposedly doing, or something embarassing that had happened to the U.S. Also, many of the stories were late, giving a uniquely Russian-government "spin" to events that I'd read about on the Internet a week or two earlier.

Anyway it was pretty interesting to see this Russian government propaganda news show side by side with the American corporate propaganda news shows. They were like two sides of the same coin.

Re:Russian propaganda channel (1)

jythie (914043) | about 4 years ago | (#33289788)

Damn. Now I want to see this channel! That actually does sound interesting.

Reminds me of a Japanese news site I follow... it is always fascinating to see the site report on the same stories as American ones and having a completely different tone.. sometimes even different (but not contractory) facts presented.

Yes, (5, Funny)

Tablizer (95088) | about 4 years ago | (#33288824)

It's called "SUV".

Re:Yes, (2)

LWATCDR (28044) | about 4 years ago | (#33289134)

Actually that is also a myth. Well more of an exaggeration. Autos do contribute to CO2 production but they are not the big problem. The big problem are coal fired power plants. Yes every little bit hurts but the SUV has gotten an unfair amount of blame because it is such visible example of people choosing to waste fuel.

Re:Yes, (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33289372)

no, the problem is selfish and greedy attitudes, and "but he's worse" finger pointing.
running of suburban SUVs or subsidized coal fired power stations are both just symptoms of this.

Re:Yes, (1, Funny)

CasperIV (1013029) | about 4 years ago | (#33289822)

Actually, coal plants are a symptom of the need for affordable power systems. We can completely sustain our existence without them, we just need a few billion people to kill themselves first, to relocate populations closer to green power systems, and remove the freewill of the populace to do anything not in the best interest of our agenda. Those who do not comply will need to be dealt with swiftly, I suggest we form an order of Grammaton Clerics to maintain the obedience of the masses. I would also request we do not allow Christian Bale exist in our perfect world, something tells me he might be a problem.

* Note this is satire. I am not actually a new age environmental fanatic, so you FBI agents can put down your pencils and save your self the trip to my house.

Re:Yes, (1)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | about 4 years ago | (#33289490)

The big problem is CO2 production to the atmosphere. It doesn't matter if its a car or a plant or a human breathing that creates the CO2, we need to find more efficient ways to deal with it. For a plant, it might be storing the emissions till they can be converted into something useful (like seperating the C from the O2 to get oxygen and DIAMONDS!). And with vehicles it's making them emit less and less CO2.

What we need is for people to look at whats emitting CO2, and reduce it, regardless of what else is emitting CO2.

Re:Yes, (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33289836)

Actually, it doesn't matter [much] if it's a person breathing. Yes, technically, we add CO2 to the atmosphere. But that CO2 is part of an immediately circular system: CO2 path is Atmosphere->Plant Life->Animal Life->Humans [or direct from plants to humans]->Atmosphere: We add no more to the atmosphere than we remove from the ecosystem around us. The same applies to Cow Farts. Since we're actively spreading plant life to larger areas of the world [deserts, for example] to provide more food, we're keeping things relatively balanced - true, it's a different balance than traditionally needed, but it's still a balance: Killing and eating things that have been around for thousands of years is very rare.

The big issues are twofold: First, we're also destroying plant life for other reasons [paper, building materials, etc]. We're doing this significantly faster than we are replacing it. Second, we're taking CO2 that was locked in the soil [coal, oil] and putting it into the ecosystem for the first time in millions of years.

Re:Yes, (4, Funny)

2obvious4u (871996) | about 4 years ago | (#33289224)

Damn, then the Chinese have an even better weapon. "COAL"

Oh, yes, HAARP.... (4, Insightful)

FooAtWFU (699187) | about 4 years ago | (#33288828)

The one that heats the ionosphere, and has an effect on the scale of an immersion heater in the Yukon river. That HAARP. Of course it's to blame.

Re:Oh, yes, HAARP.... (5, Funny)

drewhk (1744562) | about 4 years ago | (#33288944)

What? You also have a giant immersion heater in the Yukon river?

You American bastards!

Re:Oh, yes, HAARP.... (3, Funny)

Lumpy (12016) | about 4 years ago | (#33289394)

yes yes it is....

you see the Russians have been trying for years to stop our agents...

See! See my russian friends! Your failure to make big trouble for Moose and Squirrel has allowed US to create the best doomsday machine ever.

Rocky P Squirrel is our BEST climate change scientist.. and His Moose friend is a failed Magician in disguise... He really is the money behind the brains....

YOUR FAILURES HAVE DOOMED US ALL!

So, Conspiracy Theories Are /. Worthy Now? (5, Interesting)

Maarx (1794262) | about 4 years ago | (#33288836)

Didn't a bunch of whackjobs a few years ago try and claim that Hurricane Katrina was the result of some Weather Control Device created by the Axis of Evil?

Re:So, Conspiracy Theories Are /. Worthy Now? (4, Funny)

rotide (1015173) | about 4 years ago | (#33289010)

Not only worthy of slashdot, but filed under Science as well.

Re:So, Conspiracy Theories Are /. Worthy Now? (1)

irving47 (73147) | about 4 years ago | (#33289212)

No. Don't be silly. That's just crazy talk.

It was the Russians that did it with THEIR weather manipulation device.

Duh.

Re:So, Conspiracy Theories Are /. Worthy Now? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33289460)

Mr. President! We cannot allow a Weather Manipulation Device gap!

Re:So, Conspiracy Theories Are /. Worthy Now? (1)

kanweg (771128) | about 4 years ago | (#33289364)

Re:So, Conspiracy Theories Are /. Worthy Now? (1)

Tablizer (95088) | about 4 years ago | (#33289452)

Counter it with a Regeneres.

Re:So, Conspiracy Theories Are /. Worthy Now? (1)

cgenman (325138) | about 4 years ago | (#33289584)

"So, Conspiracy Theories are /. Worthy Now?"

Have you been reading the same Slashdot as the rest of us? I'm just glad when the article links don't go to YouTube videos of drunk squirrels.

Re:So, Conspiracy Theories Are /. Worthy Now? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33289638)

Actually, it was created by Cobra.

Re:So, Conspiracy Theories Are /. Worthy Now? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33289642)

The only weather control theories I heard about Katrina blamed the U.S. It wasn't intentionally aimed at New Orleans, but a science experiment to see if you could control them away from big cities gone horribly wrong.

Re:So, Conspiracy Theories Are /. Worthy Now? (1)

jythie (914043) | about 4 years ago | (#33289830)

I do recall some claims that America caused Katrina itself via HAARP, but I do not recall seeing anything about other countries involved.

Re:So, Conspiracy Theories Are /. Worthy Now? (1)

dintech (998802) | about 4 years ago | (#33289850)

Isn't Slashdot itself a Commie Pinko Cyber-Warfare Conspiracy to lower IT productivity in english speaking countries?

Well that would explain... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33288840)

Well that would explain why I saw Bond strapped to a table at the business end of giant death ray the last time I toured the HAARP facility.

But seriously, shame on Samzenpus for posting this woo woo garbage.

Re:Well that would explain... (1)

Pojut (1027544) | about 4 years ago | (#33288872)

"Damn you, sir...AND DAMN YOUR CHAIR!" /Sealab 2021 reference

Anonymous Coward (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33288844)

And the deployment platform is a circular aircraft, reminiscent of the small plates the British put their cups of tea down on....

Re:Anonymous Coward (1)

DarkKnightRadick (268025) | about 4 years ago | (#33288908)

+1 funny, please.

Sorry, Comrade (5, Funny)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | about 4 years ago | (#33288850)

We already made the unfounded claim that all natural disasters and climate related problems on the Earth are due to women dressing immodestly.

Re:Sorry, Comrade (1)

Bigjeff5 (1143585) | about 4 years ago | (#33289140)

Don't you remember?

There was a moderate earthquake while the scantily clad women were trying to prove that immodest dress didn't cause earthquakes.

Pretty funny actually.

Re:Sorry, Comrade (1)

TheLink (130905) | about 4 years ago | (#33289376)

> There was a moderate earthquake while the scantily clad women were trying to prove that immodest dress didn't cause earthquakes.

Links please :).

BTW, seems that killing and eating animals can cause women to become scantily clad: http://blog.peta.org/archives/nude/ [peta.org]

Re:Sorry, Comrade (1)

hedwards (940851) | about 4 years ago | (#33289166)

What about the ones caused by homosexuality? Or does our influence only extend to terrorist attacks?

How did this garbage get posted? (4, Insightful)

Nimey (114278) | about 4 years ago | (#33288858)

Hey, do you think I can get an article posted if I post a link to a paranoid rant about Obama's birth certificate?

Re:How did this garbage get posted? (1)

Bigjeff5 (1143585) | about 4 years ago | (#33289176)

Only if you are a political scientist spreading propaganda in addition to being a wackjob conspiracy theorist.

Then it's ok.

Re:How did this garbage get posted? (1)

irving47 (73147) | about 4 years ago | (#33289244)

No.

But try the one about his Connecticut-issued Social Security Number.

Re:How did this garbage get posted? (1)

Ozlanthos (1172125) | about 4 years ago | (#33289826)

Only if you have proven conclusively that the Mad Fishmonger was in fact Obama's father.

-Oz

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard (1, Offtopic)

qoncept (599709) | about 4 years ago | (#33288878)

Seriously, even worse than this [alexchiu.com] . But I guess that's what they get for flouridation, the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face.

Re:This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever hea (1)

drewhk (1744562) | about 4 years ago | (#33288994)

All your precious bodily fluids belong to us.

Re:This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever hea (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33289358)

Why? According to this guy's logic it makes perfect sense to endanger the harvest and therefore risk civil unrest in a country with a large nuclear arsenal...

Personally, I still think the easter bunny is the true culprit!

Re:This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever hea (1)

Bigjeff5 (1143585) | about 4 years ago | (#33289416)

Wow, I have to disagree with you, that site is amazingly ridiculous. At least HAARP is actually shooting radio waves at the upper atmosphere, which means there is at least something could fool the ignorant that the US may be messing with the weather (a basic understanding of radio waves will clear this up for you, though).

Alexi Chiu is just downright out there. Wear this ring and take my Gorgeouspil(tm) and within one day your bones will start to restructure! You will be beautiful and immortal!

The saddest part of the whole thing is he's actually got a patent on the ring, and is working on a patent on the pill.

His other site is even worse.

Snowglobe (3, Insightful)

rotide (1015173) | about 4 years ago | (#33288886)

We live in a relatively closed system. If we were trying to "heat" you up, that heat will come back around and hit our west coast. But, as with most conspiracies, it's hilarious to watch at least. Somehow people think we can come up with a grand scheme to manipulate the weather of foreign nations, put it into action, _and_ keep it quiet, yet our government can't figure out how to win a simple war and keep the documents classified during it (WikiLeaks/Afghanistan)?

Re:Snowglobe (1)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | about 4 years ago | (#33288958)

What other nation is fighting in the war?

Re:Snowglobe (3, Funny)

StikyPad (445176) | about 4 years ago | (#33289626)

You don't get it, man. Like, government "leaks" are just distractions to shift attention away from their true goals. But the true genius is how they make everybody believe they're incompetent! Don't you see?!? If everybody thinks the government is incompetent, then nobody's going to believe they're capable of pulling off such a HUGE conspiracy, and anyone who tries to tell the truth, like me, is labeled as a raving lunatic!

Duh, science vs war conspiracies... (1)

Chris Burke (6130) | about 4 years ago | (#33289650)

Somehow people think we can come up with a grand scheme to manipulate the weather of foreign nations, put it into action, _and_ keep it quiet, yet our government can't figure out how to win a simple war and keep the documents classified during it (WikiLeaks/Afghanistan)?

Well yeah. Wars necessarily involve many thousands of people and many planners at all levels. Even if you have a genius general, their subordinates still have to make decisions, and the general is unlikely to have a complete view of the theater. And regardless of the quality of planning, the orders and information necessary to fight necessarily pass through many hands.

Compare with the climate change conspiracy theory. You pretty much just need one genius scientist to come up with the "alter climate over Russia but somehow not the U.S." device willing to sacrifice their morals to see their vision come to fruition, one zealous DARPA manager willing to do anything for the Stars and Stripes to manage the scientist and all the contractors (who don't have to know what purpose the sub-components they are building are for -- see Primer or Cube), and one high-level administrator to shovel the money at the project and not ask questions (for plausible deniability of course).

One mad scientist, one mad agent, and one corrupt official. Much easier to keep the lid on. The only flaw with this though is that there's usually a plucky hero (preferably a slinky girl ninja spy) who infiltrates the organization in order to uncover the conspiracy... Unfortunately all the people who suspect the truth are only able to complain about it on the intertubes.

lol (1)

Carebears (1867786) | about 4 years ago | (#33288898)

This news makes me wanna play some Command And Conquer.

Standards have surely fallen (4, Insightful)

onyxruby (118189) | about 4 years ago | (#33288932)

If something like this makes the front page at slashdot, what's next? Roswell aliens, JFK Conspiracy theories, how about the 9/11 conspiracy saying the fed's were behind everything? Is it possible to have the slightest bit of editorial standards at this website?

Re:Standards have surely fallen (4, Insightful)

rotide (1015173) | about 4 years ago | (#33288968)

The best part is.. This is great.. It's filed under "Science".. I would have chosen Idle, but Conspiracy theories are Science now and fully /. worthy.

Then Block Idle Already (1)

eldavojohn (898314) | about 4 years ago | (#33289248)

The best part is.. This is great.. It's filed under "Science".. I would have chosen Idle, but Conspiracy theories are Science now and fully /. worthy.

Actually it's filed under both science [slashdot.org] and idle [slashdot.org] so to be fair it would have been blocked if you took the time to block 'idle' in your preferences. I've probably outlined how to do that a hundred times in posts [slashdot.org] and heavily recommend it so we don't have to continually put up with discussions on why Slashdot is so craptacular. Your other option is to just stop reading it all together as I'm sure most of the people that complain don't bother to tweak the preferences options that have been there since as long as I've been reading.

Re:Then Block Idle Already (1)

rotide (1015173) | about 4 years ago | (#33289316)

Actually, I do block certain things, but for some reason they still get through anyways. Book reviews, aka Slashvertisements, I have those blocked, guess what though, they still show up for me. Blocking on this site has never worked for my account. So keep saying to click the block button and I'll keep verifying I have it checked yet it won't do anything.

PEBKAC (0, Troll)

eldavojohn (898314) | about 4 years ago | (#33289406)

Actually, I do block certain things, but for some reason they still get through anyways. Book reviews, aka Slashvertisements, I have those blocked, guess what though, they still show up for me. Blocking on this site has never worked for my account. So keep saying to click the block button and I'll keep verifying I have it checked yet it won't do anything.

Here's a big hint: if you're using the dynamic (new) index it's not about checking a box. It's about excluding 'idle' and putting it into the Other Terms to Exclude box under the Exclusions tab. DO NOT click on Classic Indexes and Slashdboxes. Believe it or not, there are some people that still prefer classic index and that's what those preferences are for. It just took me five seconds to exclude all things marked 'idle' and I verified that yes it does work -- you can do it too. I know you can. I believe in you.

Re:Standards have surely fallen (0, Troll)

Type44Q (1233630) | about 4 years ago | (#33289186)

If something like this makes the front page at slashdot, what's next? Roswell aliens, JFK Conspiracy theories, how about the 9/11 conspiracy saying the fed's were behind everything?

Yeah, 'cause it's not like there was ever any reason to doubt the official explanation for JFK's death or anything like that... As for 9/11, those charges that you all heard going off [if you were watching the event in realtime on national news]? You didn't. Now move along...

Re:Standards have surely fallen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33289454)

As for 9/11, those charges that you all heard going off [if you were watching the event in realtime on national news]? You didn't. Now move along...

Oh not this thoroughly-debunked shit again...

Re:Standards have surely fallen (1)

gman003 (1693318) | about 4 years ago | (#33289342)

I thought it was funny. Maybe there should be a "Unintentional Comedy" section.

Re:Standards have surely fallen (1)

Monsuco (998964) | about 4 years ago | (#33289690)

If something like this makes the front page at slashdot, what's next? Roswell aliens, JFK Conspiracy theories, how about the 9/11 conspiracy saying the fed's were behind everything? Is it possible to have the slightest bit of editorial standards at this website?

Failing that, I want an article saying Roswell aliens killed JFK and caused 9/11.

Better targets (2, Insightful)

KDN (3283) | about 4 years ago | (#33288942)

If it was real you would think we would pick better targets such as:

  1. Iran
  2. North Korea
  3. Yemen
  4. Venezuela

Oh but I guess picking bad targets must be part of the conspiracy because that would hide the conspiracy. But then, knowing that I know that they know that I know then they would pick good targets.

Re:Better targets (1)

shoehornjob (1632387) | about 4 years ago | (#33289154)

We're actually on speaking terms with the Yemeni government...we just want to bomb their terrorists.

Re:Better targets (1)

Bigjeff5 (1143585) | about 4 years ago | (#33289446)

That was my thought.

These guys need to wake up: the cold war ended decades ago, when Russia fell to pieces.

Re:Better targets (1)

Lumpy (12016) | about 4 years ago | (#33289450)

We tried... The origional version had only 2 settings... Good and Evil.

we tried evil and it started targeting Washington DC..

So the scientists redesigned it to have levels of evil and it seems that it's not a fine enough of an adjustment yet.

Re:Better targets (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33289608)

Ach you've got it completely backwards. We're actually good friends with Iran, North Korea, Yemen and Venezuela. We've only been pretending to hate them, and visa versa to cover up the fact that we still want to invade Russia.

Stage one, was the mind control serum we put in their softdrinks,

Stage two, was the subliminal messages embedded in their porn.

Stage three, was stealing their natzi gold, hidden in exported Russian vodka crates.

Stage four, is the weather machine.

Stage five, is still in the process of being implemented, but here's a hint -- sad clown hookers and sardines.

Somebody has to do it... (4, Funny)

Bishop923 (109840) | about 4 years ago | (#33288972)

OK I'll take the bullet and get the meme out of the way so we can focus on serious-business /. discussion.

"In Soviet Russia, Climate changes you!"

Why don't the just... (2, Funny)

Securityemo (1407943) | about 4 years ago | (#33288984)

Why don't they just stuff the civilians into some bunkers and Iron Curtain them, until the weather clears?

Contradiction in terms? (4, Insightful)

grasshoppa (657393) | about 4 years ago | (#33289038)

One might be a "Political Scientist" in much the same way as one might be an "Honest Politician".

Re:Contradiction in terms? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33289368)

In the UK they sacked the science advisor and replaced with a YES man idiot. Oh and they changed the terms of employment for other science advisors so anyone that anyone going against the political grain will be sacked. Even if that means they are reporting 'real' science that contradicts what goverment are saying... NEWS - science advisor says that all drugs should be legalised...

The UK and US Goverment let the criminals profit and the addicts suffer. Just think if all that money made by organised gangs was brought into the goverment and was used to get people off the drugs and into something more productive. Surely that would be a better society???? Ahh but the alcohol sales would plummet.

Political Science is the future - and will be a degree subject soon... The majority of people seem to lap up what other people say and can't be bothered to read up and look at multiple sources. So they don't question the news. That's why it's sooooo important to get google uncensored for the whole world... At least the people with brains can get up-to-date infomation and read blogs to help them research - so they empower themselves.

Just dont trust goverment or the news to tell you what's actually happening.

Re:Contradiction in terms? (1)

Sockatume (732728) | about 4 years ago | (#33289434)

Political science is a legitimate field, the study of politics as a social phenomenon. In this instance it's completely irrelevant to the topic, suggesting they mentioned it primarily because it includes the word "science" and makes it sound like he might have more of a clue about HAARP's abilities than your average internet conspiracy theorist.

Impossible, Russians have prior art (3, Funny)

dpilot (134227) | about 4 years ago | (#33289098)

Couldn't possibly happen, because the Russians have prior art on this: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Russian_Woodpecker [wikimedia.org]

The conspiracy-theories for the Russian Woodpecker were primarily mind control and weather modification.

But then again, if they didn't patent it, maybe we could use it after all.

Sarcasm alert - I know that citing patents and prior art against secret government weapons is silly. Sometimes the secret government weapons are, too.

Re:Impossible, Russians have prior art (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33289588)

Couldn't possibly happen, because the Russians have prior art on this: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Russian_Woodpecker [wikimedia.org]

You're more right than you know. If the Russians can promulgate a conspiracy theory sufficient to shut down HAARP, they can harm US R&D efforts in long-range communications, and in so doing, have a direct impact on US military capability.

Wouldn't surprise me that we tried the same thing with regards to making them feel sensitive about their OTH radars :)

Early bird gets the worm (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33289102)

They are just pissed cause they didn't think of it first.

Aural? (1)

MDMurphy (208495) | about 4 years ago | (#33289106)

That would be Auroral, not Aural

If the shoe fits... (1)

RunsWithMatches (1352655) | about 4 years ago | (#33289116)

Climate weapon deniers!

Proof they sell Tinfoil in Russia (1)

meerling (1487879) | about 4 years ago | (#33289120)

Guess the USA isn't the only one with world class conspiracy nutjobs.

Don't blame us.... (1)

SomeoneGotMyNick (200685) | about 4 years ago | (#33289126)

We only come up with crude versions of a technological idea...

The Japanese roll all of our technological breakthroughs into perfection and spread it around the world.

The real name of the weapon.... (1)

bobdehnhardt (18286) | about 4 years ago | (#33289164)

... is the AUTOMOBILE!

Duh duh duuunnnnnnnn!

And so... (1)

confused one (671304) | about 4 years ago | (#33289178)

And so he's suggesting that we've used this "weapon of mass destruction", which would affect global climate and therefor harm the U.S. too. On purpose. Riiight.

Ah beliefs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33289220)

It must be so nice to be sure you're right all the time and reject things that YOU think are "ridiculous" and "impossible" based on your limited knowledge of things.
When you do a bit of proper research, you'll find such topic was already being very seriously discussed in the 1950s, and even specific pieces of international agreements explicitly banning the development and use of such weapons. And the whole internet conspiracy bandwagon wasn't born yet.

HAARP/moon landing conspiracies are BS, but.... (1)

rclandrum (870572) | about 4 years ago | (#33289266)

It occurred to me that many people might not believe we ever landed on the moon because we cannot do it today - and if we were ever able to do this, why would we be so stupid as to throw the ability away?. I wonder what else falls into that category? What other things have we achieved as a nation that we could no longer do without some serious rethinking and lead time?

Re:HAARP/moon landing conspiracies are BS, but.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33289556)

Um, when did we lose the ability to make a rocket? Or a spacecraft? Or a lunar lander? We didn't lose that ability, we no longer have the original plans for the original pieces of equipment. That doesn't mean we can't do it again.
Your comment is like saying we can't make a wax cylinder phonograph because the original plans were lost. We could make one whenever we really wanted to (and in the case of Apollo, really REALLY wanted to) but the tech is so out of date and the reasons for making one so limited that there is no point. You wouldn't listen to wax cylinders as your main music medium, why would you fly to the moon in a rocket and spacecraft designed half a century ago?

I thought Putin wanted it warmer (5, Informative)

Rob the Bold (788862) | about 4 years ago | (#33289270)

Seriously, wasn't Putin saying something a few years ago that he would welcome global warming, inasmuch as Russia would benefit due to longer growing seasons, more tractable land, etc.?

Here we go: 'Putin pointed out that "an increase of two or three degrees wouldn't be so bad for a northern country like Russia. We could spend less on fur coats, and the grain harvest would go up".' [newscientist.com]

According to the article, there was some disagreement if this was just snarky or held a "grain" of truth.

However you feel about HAARP... (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 4 years ago | (#33289302)

However you feel about HAARP, Russia also has a similar program (in terms of hardware)

not a myth (1)

minstrelmike (1602771) | about 4 years ago | (#33289322)

Unlike global warming, this is not a myth and the truth will not be denied. {/sarcasm}
\/* I didn't know they had teabagheads in Russia, too */

Dictators always need external enemies (1)

BerntB (584621) | about 4 years ago | (#33289458)

American climate weapons fits in a bit too well with:
Dictators must have external enemies. And people in non-democracies tend to believe in conspiracies -- after all, they live in one.

Let us hope this is a crank, or we should be sad (and scared!) about where Russia is going... :-(

I assume it is the Russian oil's fault. Countries with too much of their export income from natural resources never become democracies, if they weren't one already. (See "Resource curse".)

weapon? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33289474)

we don't need no stinkin' climate change weapon - the people of the US just don't give a shit about what happens to the environment - especially if it takes away from our self-gratification

This already exists.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33289484)

in Red Alert 2.

http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Weather_control_device

In Soviet Russia Climate Changes YOU! (0, Redundant)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | about 4 years ago | (#33289592)

In Soviet Russia Climate Changes YOU!

Hanlon's Razor... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33289594)

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

Alternatively, Heinlein's Razor, "You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity"

Global Thermo War (1)

gmuslera (3436) | about 4 years ago | (#33289816)

The only way to win is not to play it

Shades of Tom Bearden! (1)

timholman (71886) | about 4 years ago | (#33289834)

To me, the most amusing aspect of this conspiracy theory is that it so perfectly mirrors the conspiracy theory that Tom Bearden (www.cheniere.org) has been spouting over the years, i.e. that the Russians developed "scalar electromagnetic" weapons during the Cold War, and have been using them to create earthquakes, steer hurricanes at the U.S. (e.g. Katrina), and cause most of the unusual weather (heat waves, cold snaps, droughts, etc.) that the U.S. has experienced in the past couple of decades.

So now I guess we've begun shooting back at the Russians with scalar EM weapons of our own. Clearly, the world is now doomed. Let the scalar EM wars begin!

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