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Minority Report Style Iris Scanners In Mexico

samzenpus posted more than 3 years ago | from the scanning-your-way-around-town dept.

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TheRealPacmanJones writes "Biometrics R&D firm Global Rainmakers Inc. (GRI) announced today that it is rolling out its iris scanning technology to create what it calls 'the most secure city in the world.' In a partnership with Leon, one of the largest cities in Mexico with a population of more than a million, GRI will fill the city with eye-scanners. The scanners will help revolutionize law enforcement not to mention marketing."

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Phooey. (2, Insightful)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 3 years ago | (#33294956)

I hate it when filmmakers are just a little too prophetic.

Re:Phooey. (1)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 3 years ago | (#33294978)

To quote one of my favourite movies,

"Boy, do I hate being right all the time!"

Re:Phooey. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33295060)

Boy, do I hate being right all the time! - Dr. Ian Malcolm, Jurassic Park

Re:Phooey. (1)

MRe_nl (306212) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295218)

"I had a guaranteed Mexican sale with ED209! Renovation program! Spare parts for 25 years! Who cares if it worked or not"!

Which film? (1)

mangu (126918) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295156)

One film that showed how to circumvent this was "Demolition Man", where the character played by Wesley Snipes uses an eyeball torn off a doctor to open a door.

Are there any other films using the same idea? It seems pretty obvious to me.

Re:Which film? (2, Informative)

stonewallred (1465497) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295196)

Said you can't in TFA. Eye loses blood pressure and screws up reading. Now wonder if surgery could alter the amount of pressure enough to screw scanner, while preserving vision? Maybe an ophthalmologist reads /. and can answer?

Re:Which film? (1)

mangu (126918) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295242)

Eye loses blood pressure and screws up reading

Then maybe that's why Simon Phoenix stuck the eyeball on a fountain pen in that film. He could use ink pressure to compensate for blood pressure loss.

Re:Which film? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33295438)

Simon Phoenix wasn't that smart

Re:Which film? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33295596)

If you actually saw the entier movie you would realize that he was actually _that_ smart after some upgrades.

ALL OF YOU, SHH! Use movie-script to sue gov. (2, Interesting)

NRAdude (166969) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295698)

If you think about it, we actually need Software Patents and Pantent-laws, so that we we can invent all these New World Odor schemes by suing them for violating our patends disclosed in simulations presented in movie theatres.

And there you have it. Thanks Orson for the movie, now who'se going to buy that evidence inherint in the disclosure of that movie? Klingon is a language too, and the Klingons don't attack Planet Earth because they
know the RIAA and MPAA will sue them using Patent-law. It's like this with COPS, they are only arresting un-licensed drug dealers because they hold the Patents on drug-dealing: government hates competition.

Re:Phooey. (2, Insightful)

stonewallred (1465497) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295178)

Screw that, I am buying stock in the wrap around mirror shades companies. More scanners will result in more sales, until the governments mandate you must not hide your eyes. How about colored contacts or non colored contacts with just enough distortion to screw the sensors?

Re:Phooey. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33295670)

Unscannable! He's unscannable! HEEELP! TERRORIST!!!

Re:Phooey. (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295358)

Soooo, you don't watch SCIFI shows much do you? That's what they are all about.

Re:Phooey. Yeah it was. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33295460)

I hate it when filmmakers are just a little too prophetic.

Or maybe writers like Philip K Dick?

Re:Phooey. Yeah it was. (1)

bhcompy (1877290) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295712)

Exactly. Dick is the prophet here, not a crappy movie

Now you can identify me (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33294968)

Next time I post from an Internet Cafe in Leon, someone will know who I really am.

-A. Coward

Re:Now you can identify me (0, Offtopic)

catchblue22 (1004569) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295248)

The association of the moniker "most secure city in the world" with "Mexico City" is enough for me to judge the wisdom and intellectual capacity of the subjects of this article.

sudden rise in sunglasses sales (1)

chronoss2010 (1825454) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295610)

im investing in sun glasses tech

Oookay. (3, Insightful)

Securityemo (1407943) | more than 3 years ago | (#33294974)

So now it will be illegal to wear sunglasses in Mexico?

Re:Oookay. (1)

Maxo-Texas (864189) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295058)

Sunglasses and spray paint as the new hot selling items.

Re:Oookay. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33295184)

BURN IN HELL, MOTHERFUCKER!

Re:Oookay. (2, Informative)

Nerdfest (867930) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295208)

Most iris recognition uses the infra-red spectrum, so sunglasses won't help unless they block those frequencies.

Re:Oookay. (1)

Securityemo (1407943) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295254)

You could tape a grid of thin aluminium stripes across the back of a darker pair? It would probably hold up to casual inspection.

Re:Oookay. (1)

numbski (515011) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295280)

Personally, I wear my sunglasses at night. So I can see.

Don't switch the blade on the guy in shades... (1)

denzacar (181829) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295536)

But the first thing I do when I get up out of bed, is hit that streets a-runnin' and try to beat the masses... [youtube.com]

Re:Oookay. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33295562)

So i can, so i can, watch you weave, then breath, your story lines.

That record is still in my dj-set. If your talking bout tiga, not corey hart that is.

Secure? (5, Interesting)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 3 years ago | (#33294988)

'the most secure city in the world.'

Not if you live, work or visit there. They need basic protections from drug gangs and their corrupt government, military and police. They don't need these scanners, they need millions of bullet proof vests.

Re:Secure? (1, Troll)

couchslug (175151) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295106)

They need an effective police state, and a Pinochet, a Franco, or other ruler who has enough leverage to kill anyone who is a threat to good citizens.

There is a point where the strictly limited and extremely restrained legalistic ways which are practical in stable countries do not work.

War, not law, is then necessary to kill and destroy the enemies of the people. Mexico is a failed state, and the way to put those in order is to give orders, enforce them with force, and ensure the narco-warlords are killed so they cannot operate from prison.

In the US, by comparison, we have trivial crime rates, pampered lives, and are so comfortable we cannot even understand such situations.

Re:Secure? (2, Insightful)

Nethead (1563) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295134)

Oh, we understand the concept. Look what happened to Iraq when we overthrew Saddam. We broke it, we bought it.

Re:Secure? (0, Flamebait)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295170)

You are a horrible person. I hope you one day live under one of those regimes.

Pinochet, Franco and their ilk killed their own fair share of good citizens.

Re:Secure? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33295206)

It seems every country under the thumb of the Holy Roman Church is a corrupt shithole.

Re:Secure? (2, Insightful)

stonewallred (1465497) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295212)

Hmm, that logic could easily be extended to our efforts in Iraq, Afghanistan and even with Islam in total. Somebody alert Beck that we have a solution to our problems, kill them all and let the invisible sky wizard of your own choosing sort them out.

Re:Secure? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33295258)

Let me summarize your point of view: police state, a Pinochet, a Franco, or other ruler who has enough leverage to kill anyone is a threat to good citizens. In the US, we have crime rates so comfortable we even understand such situations.

Re:Secure? (1, Insightful)

turbotroll (1378271) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295276)

They need an effective police state, and a Pinochet, a Franco, or other ruler who has enough leverage to kill anyone who is a threat to good citizens.

There is a point where the strictly limited and extremely restrained legalistic ways which are practical in stable countries do not work.

War, not law, is then necessary to kill and destroy the enemies of the people. Mexico is a failed state, and the way to put those in order is to give orders, enforce them with force, and ensure the narco-warlords are killed so they cannot operate from prison.

In the US, by comparison, we have trivial crime rates, pampered lives, and are so comfortable we cannot even understand such situations.

I am glad that someone wrote this openly. The only way to fight the most dangerous and unrepentant criminals is to kill them.

However, I fear that some politically correct idiots will mod you down...

Re:Secure? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33295638)

I feel like it's redundant to point out examples of the kind of thing you're talking about since you already mentioned Pinochet or Franco. Nevertheless, I'm going to point out that what you're talking about is exactly what the Taliban were, and look how well they worked out!

How about, instead of giving up on Mexico as a failed state, give up on drug prohibition as a failed policy. Prohibition of things that people simply are not going to stop paying for just doesn't work. Didn't work for alchohol. The human cost was horrible. It doesn't work for prostitution. There all it does is create a class of professionals who are constantly the victims of felonies (violence, robbery, rape, enslavement, etc.) because they're committing misdemeanors and they pretty accurately perceive that if they go to the police with a complaint, they'll be prosecuted for their lesser crimes as low-hanging fruit while those who victimize them largely get away with it. It doesn't work with gambling. One of my sisters exes is a poker addict (he's convinced he can make a living at it because, in his head, he counts his profits when he wins, but never his losses) who apparently plays in some vice den where a good quarter of the patrons are police officers. He doesn't play in the state-licensed gambling establishments because they're frankly more exploitive than the sleazy vice den. The state controls gambling, theoretically to protect people from its dangers, and yet is addicted enough to the revenues that it runs ad campaigns trying to get more people to play the lottery. Drug prohibition has turned large parts of the world into war zones. Meanwhile, the actual supply hasn't been stemmed at all. As stupid as many may have found Nancy Reagan's "Just say no!" policy, it's probably the only part of the drug war that's even been remotely effective. They should just drop prohibition and shift all that effort into proper education. That would never fly in the US, of course, where the CYA principle is so firmly entrenched that stupid stuff like abstinence-only can be substituted in for sensible sex-ed. Any drug education would be similarly neutered crap. What kids need is realistic information on what the effects and dangers of various drugs are, instead they get macho crap from some D.A.R.E. officer telling them they'd better stay of drugs or they'll get busted and then end up being raped in prison.

If the US and other major drug importing nations dropped prohibition and growing the drugs became a legal industry in Mexico, the drug gangs wouldn't vanish overnight. To start with, they'd probably try to keep their control over the drug industry, essentially running protection rackets on farmers producing the drugs. Over time, with the farmers no longer having anything to fear from law enforcement, plus everyone slowly realizing that there's now no effective difference between a cocaine producer and a lima bean producer, and that the money just isn't there in drugs anymore, their concentration in that industry should fade away and their members would probably move on to all kinds of other crime or maybe even legit jobs in some cases. Anyway, it would probably take decades for all the damage and corruption to fade away, but it's a better solution than some all out war that creates "peace" and "order" while filling quiet mass graves in the hills.

Re:Secure? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33295860)

No, in the US you just have a Drug Czar that wages war upon its people with no-knock warrants, the worlds highest incarceration rate and other various civil liberty violations.

Re:Secure? (5, Insightful)

mangu (126918) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295222)

They need basic protections from drug gangs and their corrupt government, military and police

They need their big rich neighbor in the North to decriminalize recreational drugs.

Chicago was also a violent and corrupt city when the recreational use of ethanol was unconstitutional.

Re:Secure? (1, Interesting)

geekoid (135745) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295700)

Not really. IN fact, most crime dropped, and domestic crime just about disappeared.

Criminal on criminal violence amongst rival importers was bad. However, even when it wasn't bad it would be put on headlines and twisted to seem worse.

My thought was that the papers didn't like the sever drop in revenue from the alcohol ad loss.

At least then the criminal had the decency to try and keep it among themselves.

Re:Secure? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33295880)

Chicago WAS a violent and corrupt city? Have you seen that place recently? All they did was move on to something else.

Legalizing addictive substances does not solve the base behavioral problems associated with those substances, it just takes some of the premium out of the market. And if the cartels see their cash cow dry up, they will either run the other legal suppliers out of the market by any means necessary, or move on to something else with the same cash potential. You really think the cartels would just throw up their hands and go "Oh shucks, the party's over. Go on home guys, find real jobs, and turn in your guns."

I so need to get your email and put you on my list of potential investors.

Re:Secure? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33295920)

Chicago still IS a violent and corrupt city.

Re:Secure? (5, Informative)

Balthisar (649688) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295304)

Actually, Leon isn't a drug lord infested stink hole like some other parts of Mexico. It's slogan was (until recently) "The best city for living in!" And it's really kind of true. The state that it's in was one of the first to throw off the shackles of the ruling PRI (you know, they guys that never gave up power after the Mexican revolution), and it progressed as a result. The previous president of Mexico (Fox, the first non-PRI president in those 71 years) was from the outskirts of Leon. Their public transportation (non-subway) system is a model for the world, and it's being adopted for many parts of Mexico City (where I currently live, and is a shithole, even the "exclusive" neighborhood where corporate housing has me). Potable water, good infrastructure, lots of various industry, a very good, middle-class standard of living, and less-than-average corruption in their police force.

Generally speaking, Leon is /already/ one of the safest cities in Mexico.

I go to Leon quite extensively, and so the iris scanner thing actually kind of gives me the heebie-jeebies.

Re:Secure? (0, Troll)

geekoid (135745) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295708)

Generally speaking, Leon is /already/ one of the safest cities in Mexico.

damned by faint praise.

Re:Secure? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33295352)

They need the United States to legalize, and produce locally, the drugs that the gangs depend on for their income, RIGHT NOW, so that someday in the far-flung future their great-grandkids can grow up without violent organized crime everywhere.

No exports to U.S. = no money.
No money = existing drug gangs finally wither away sixty or seventy years from now (based on how long it took the Mob to collapse after prohibition ended).

Re:Secure? (2, Informative)

fafalone (633739) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295492)

They need to take the vast majority of the money away from the cartels. No profit removes the incentive for violence and the ability to corrupt large portions of the government. Too bad that "sends the wrong message". God forbid the people getting high illegally now be able to do it legally, and receive treatment instead of a record leaving no other path than crime. (No, there's no evidence legalization means more addiction, see the Netherlands and Portugal).

Hide Your Eyes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33294992)

So what about when people get cataracts, wear sun glasses or opaque contact lenses?

It seems pretty useless honestly.

Re:Hide Your Eyes (1)

reoiv (459499) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295044)

Have they tested this with someone printing contacts with iris patterns from famous people or other people in general?

If anything it could be even easier to fake your identity. Just set up an iris scanner next to a real one. Then download all the iris patterns you like until you find one that works best. Print out a set of contacts with that iris pattern on them and walk through security....

So what about cataracts (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295400)

Your life is then over, as you cant even get a sandwich from the local burger doodle when doors no longer open for you. Or worse, it calls the police automatically for you as it traps you in the double door 'protection system'.

Price of Sunglasses and colored cotacts way up (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#33294994)

Time to buy stock in sunglass and colored contact manufacturers.

what a joke (3, Funny)

Schlemphfer (556732) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295000)

Mexico is a failed state well on its way to anarchy. This is a country that can't even keep its police chiefs from getting assassinated by drug cartel thugs, and they think iris scanners are going to make a damned bit of difference? Give me a break.

Re:what a joke (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33295126)

Much the same may be said of the United States. Out of seven major signs of being a third world country with a first world public image, it is exhibiting seven.

Re:what a joke (2, Informative)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295260)

Much the same may be said of the United States. Out of seven major signs of being a third world country with a first world public image, it is exhibiting seven.

Uh, what? A superpower in decline is NOT the same thing as a third world country. Not yet, anyways

My girlfriend is from the real third world (she emigrated to the U.S. many years ago) ... she could tell you how full of crap you are.

Re:what a joke (3, Interesting)

turbotroll (1378271) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295340)

Much the same may be said of the United States. Out of seven major signs of being a third world country with a first world public image, it is exhibiting seven.

An obligatory link: 10 Signs The U.S. is Becoming a Third World Country [infowars.com]

Re:what a joke (4, Funny)

losttoy (558557) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295162)

Here's how iris scanners can help fend off an attack. When attacked: 1. Throw an iris scanner real hard at the attacker. Don't worry if you miss, there are plenty more around you. 2. Offer an iris scanner to the attacker (should sell well on ebay) 3. Point iris scanner at the attacker and threaten to vapourize them. 4. Quickly hack into the iris database, delete attacker's identity. This will lead the attacker to question his existence and the attacker will simply implode. 5. Run! of course, iris scanner plays no role here.

Re:what a joke (2, Insightful)

c0lo (1497653) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295180)

and they think iris scanners are going to make a damned bit of difference?

Yes, they are going to make a difference! For the official(s) that took the bribe to push this ahead and for the company providing the scanners. How big the difference ? For certain, more than a bit, but I can't say how big.

Re:what a joke (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33295412)

Mexico is a failed state well on its way to anarchy. This is a country that can't even keep its police chiefs from getting assassinated by drug cartel thugs, and they think iris scanners are going to make a damned bit of difference? Give me a break.

Please, remeber that you shouldn't speak in general. There are issues down here. There were issues also in in the USA
  Instead of bringing your offensive un-constructive cmments why don't you get back to work?
Or better yet, come down here and lets see what youcan do about the problem.
~Chilango, your daddy.

Re:what a joke (2)

turbotroll (1378271) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295652)

Mexico is a failed state well on its way to anarchy. This is a country that can't even keep its police chiefs from getting assassinated by drug cartel thugs, and they think iris scanners are going to make a damned bit of difference? Give me a break.

This comment fully deserves a +5 score, but why is it modded as "Funny"? This is not funny, it's the tragic truth of Mexico's brutal reality.

Luckily.... (2, Interesting)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295002)

I'm sure that "Global Rainmakers Inc."(Seriously, could you have come up with something creepier?) have a foolproof plan for making sure that half the people involved aren't on one or more cartel payrolls, using the systems for tracking and assassinations, before the hardware is even in the field...

Re:Luckily.... (1)

DriedClexler (814907) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295074)

You beat me to it. "Secure" and "large city in the middle of a corruption-laden drug war" simply do not go together.

Re:Luckily.... (1)

vux984 (928602) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295192)

"Global Rainmakers Inc."

What we need in response is clearly:

"Umbrella Corporation"

What could possibly go wrong? ;)

Minority report? (1)

Hatta (162192) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295012)

The movie I think of when I hear about retina scanners is Demolition Man [pinballrebel.com] .

Oh my (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33295024)

Perhaps the scanners will have a bribe slot for currency?

Hello Mr. Rodriguez (1)

Orochi (798777) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295036)

Hello Mr. Rodriguez and welcome back to the GAP!

Re:Hello Mr. Rodriguez (1)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295360)

Hello Mr. Rodriguez and welcome back to the GAP!

"I'm sorry Mrs. Rodriquez, it appears that you just purchased those diapers and baby wipes on sale at another Wal-Mart, and are attempting to return them here for a full price refund. Please wait while I summon the police."

I've seen that happen a couple of times at Wal-Mart: the cops came in and hauled one woman and her kids away. She had a huge cartful of stuff she was trying to "return" for profit.

Re:Hello Mr. Rodriguez (1)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295456)

Hermanos Rodriguez don't approve of iris scanning.

I think I can speak for all of us when I say (5, Insightful)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295038)

"In the future, whether it's entering your home, opening your car, entering your workspace, getting a pharmacy prescription refilled, or having your medical records pulled up, everything will come off that unique key that is your iris," says Jeff Carter, CDO of Global Rainmakers. Before coming to GRI, Carter headed a think tank partnership between Bank of America, Harvard, and MIT. "Every person, place, and thing on this planet will be connected [to the iris system] within the next 10 years," he says.

BURN IN HELL, MOTHERFUCKER!

Re:I think I can speak for all of us when I say (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295112)

"In the future, whether it's entering your home, opening your car, entering your workspace, getting a pharmacy prescription refilled, or having your medical records pulled up, everything will come off that unique key that is your iris," says Jeff Carter, CDO of Global Rainmakers. Before coming to GRI, Carter headed a think tank partnership between Bank of America, Harvard, and MIT. "Every person, place, and thing on this planet will be connected [to the iris system] within the next 10 years," he says.

BURN IN HELL, MOTHERFUCKER!

Well thats his view, and he is a salesman after all. But I wonder about how unique retinas are anyway, and how reproducible retina scanning will be in the long term?

Re:I think I can speak for all of us when I say (5, Insightful)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295216)

The particular technology doesn't matter. Do you really want to live in a world where every time you "enter your home, your car, your workspace, get a prescription filled, etc.", it's recorder in a database? Do you want "every person, place and thing on this planet" (these are his quotes, not mine) recorded? TFA goes on with quotes from him tracking movements (truckers to start) and extolling the complete loss of privacy for everyone "on the planet". I say we start by tracking this miserable salesfuck and his family 24x7 and publishing it, see how wonderful he thinks it is.

Re:I think I can speak for all of us when I say (1)

sgage (109086) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295398)

I'm with $RANDOMLUSER.

This is evil, pure and simple.

Sarge will steal my eyeball instead of hand now. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33295608)

Quato will halt the excavation and weapons test of the BFG before Sarge can steal it!

Re:I think I can speak for all of us when I say (1)

Securityemo (1407943) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295754)

Why is this "evil", per se? What are the horrible consequences of "we-can-measure-the-arc-of-his-piss" mass surveillance that you foresee?

Re:I think I can speak for all of us when I say (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33295176)

Consider that visitors to the USA now have to give in to having their irises scanned in addition to their fingerprints when flying in. Soon, they'll have to pay for the "privilege".
Personally, I like nothing more than being treated like a criminal before being able to be a tourist in that country.

Re:I think I can speak for all of us when I say (1)

straponego (521991) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295226)

I wonder why they think giving people more justifications for violence will eliminate violence.

Re:I think I can speak for all of us when I say (2, Funny)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295322)

"In the future, whether it's entering your home, opening your car, entering your workspace, getting a pharmacy prescription refilled, or having your medical records pulled up, everything will come off that unique key that is your iris," says Jeff Carter, CDO of Global Rainmakers. Before coming to GRI, Carter headed a think tank partnership between Bank of America, Harvard, and MIT. "Every person, place, and thing on this planet will be connected [to the iris system] within the next 10 years," he says.

BURN IN HELL, MOTHERFUCKER!

Personally, I think that a lot of this crap would just STOP if medical science would find a penis enlargement pill that actually works. Frankly, I think there are a lot of men in government and the private sector that are seriously underendowed, and have to compensate by fucking over the rest of us, as if it's our fault that Nature dealt them a ding instead of a dong.

Re:I think I can speak for all of us when I say (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33295482)

Whatever. You'll keep voting us in, you dumb fuck, and you'll fucking like it.

Re:I think I can speak for all of us when I say (2, Interesting)

TheNarrator (200498) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295658)

"In the future, whether it's entering your home, opening your car, entering your workspace, getting a pharmacy prescription refilled, or having your medical records pulled up, everything will come off that unique key that is your iris," says Jeff Carter, CDO of Global Rainmakers. Before coming to GRI, Carter headed a think tank partnership between Bank of America, Harvard, and MIT. "Every person, place, and thing on this planet will be connected [to the iris system] within the next 10 years," he says.

But wait there's more, It will also be the lower 64 bits of your ipv6 address whenever you do anything online. You don't think we made 128 bits of Ip space and wasted all that bandwidth for nothing, do you?

Re:I think I can speak for all of us when I say (1)

shadowofwind (1209890) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295796)

Unfortunately, you speak for some of us, but not for all of us. Technology geeks develop this shit.

I would have gone with... (1)

jtownatpunk.net (245670) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295046)

I would have gone with a Barb Wire reference. Gun's version of Word Up playing in my head...

Future Fashion (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33295086)

*PING* Weelcome to our store, Miister Anderson
*PING* Weelcome to our store, Agent Smith
*PING* Weelcome to our store, Agent Smith
*PING* Weelcome to our store, Agent Smith
*PING* Weelcome to our store, Agent Smith
*PING* Weelcome to our store, Agent Smith

---DELAMENESSIFICATION-COMMENCE-DELAMENESS-CIRCUMVENTION-DEVICE-ACTIVATED-BEEP-
-BZUKHSDFKLJKWERNICWRYCEWC&EYWCEBWHUIEXNWE-BEEP-DELAMENESSIFICATION-COMPLETE---

Naaah... That wouldn't work... (1)

denzacar (181829) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295494)

Everyone there wears sunglasses.

IRIS patents run out ? (1)

johnjones (14274) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295114)

when do the patents on IRIS recognition run out ?

I think its soon...

or now...

regards

John Jones

Epic failure (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33295136)

Designer contact lenses will be able EASILY defeat this system should it go into effect. You can already buy custom color contacts. If this junk becomes implemented it will be easier than ever to pretend being someone else just by wearing a copy of their eyes. Easy identity theft much?

Well (5, Informative)

ignuss (1881746) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295152)

I actually live in León, and I haven't heard anything about this (not ads, not rumours, nothing). So yeah, I kind of find the note somewhat not-believable. And for the guy that said that México is in its way to anarchy, lol @ you.

Re:Well (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33295516)

Hola paisano. I am a chilango.
I am still researching on the matter hold on. And ignore that lunatic. At least if this article is saying the truth we _could_ say we are in a stronger position than USA.
http://gizmodo.com/5615901/ --- High profile website also reported on the matter.

We should contact El Blog del Narco and see if he/she can post something about the matter soon.

Re:Well (1)

Chewbacon (797801) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295788)

I'm guessing he's never been to Mexico and therefore is the expert in his own mind for the matter. And Gizmodo? That shit bunch of bloggers? They do journalism half-assed at best when they remember to bring their check books.

Adverse selection already counted on (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33295182)

From TFA: "And he has a warning for those thinking of opting out: "When you get masses of people opting-in, opting out does not help. Opting out actually puts more of a flag on you than just being part of the system. We believe everyone will opt-in.""

Re:Adverse selection already counted on (1)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295290)

"If you're not doing anything wrong, then you have nothing to hide or fear; isn't that true, citizen?"

And he's wrong. (1)

Securityemo (1407943) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295186)

The reality of implementing systems like this will probably be more along the lines of Ghost in the Shell than Minority Report. People are corrupt (this is Mexico we're talking about, I assume you *have* to be corrupt and use "unofficial channels" to get anything useful done there.) And systems get hacked, of course, but fixed hardware systems like this can be locked down pretty tight. Not only that, but the system looks small enough to be put inside a hand-held unit; if this technology becomes as cheap and efficient as this article promises, you won't need to tap the scanners themselves - just put up your own hidden ones over a large area, and have them transmit wirelessly. Just like skimming.

Ey, meester, my eye scanner preedeects weeth 99.5% (0, Flamebait)

haruchai (17472) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295202)

akooracy, that ju wan to sleep weeth my seester.

Re:Ey, meester, my eye scanner preedeects weeth 99 (1)

haruchai (17472) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295392)

No sense of humor? Tsk, tsk.

Well, at least (1)

ITBurnout (1845712) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295246)

if a Mexican guy walks past one and it says something like "Good afternoon, Mr. Yakamoto," you'll know to stay the hell away from him.

It's bad enough getting mugged for my wallet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33295282)

Now I have to fork over my eyes too. Have they even thought about how hard it is to identify the dude in a lineup after that?

FTFA (2, Insightful)

twright0 (1877370) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295298)

FTFA:

...why would any law-abiding resident ever volunteer to scan their irises into a public database, and sacrifice their privacy? GRI hopes that the immediate value the system creates will alleviate any concern... And he has a warning for those thinking of opting out: "When you get masses of people opting-in, opting out does not help. Opting out actually puts more of a flag on you than just being part of the system. We believe everyone will opt-in."

If you're a law-abiding citizen, you have nothing to hide, and thus couldn't possibly object.

what the FUCK

What about people with no eyeballs? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#33295420)

I mean, shit happens, right? And even blind people.. if you don't know where to look to have them scanned, how's that supposed to work?
Also, are these scanners just falling from the sky? Somebody's got to pay for them, and you know they aren't going to be cheap...

I like to keep my eyes where they are (1)

Accersitus (971074) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295500)

I don't really like iris scanners, as they give criminals who need my identity a reason to remove my eyes. I like my eyes where they are thanks.

Disguise? (1)

EkriirkE (1075937) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295598)

It should be pretty easy to create contact lenses (even non-rx) to thwart this? Maybe even when you register wear the lenses to have false data on their systems

Re:Disguise? (0, Troll)

geekoid (135745) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295722)

It would be very easy to build contact lens to thwart it. The downside being you wouldn't be able to see out of them.

Not going far enough! (1)

TheNarrator (200498) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295632)

They need to integrate this Iris scanner with the person's location history, recent contacts and online activity and come up with a TerrorScore(tm). If it goes above a certain threshold that a Bayesian algorithm has determined will make them likely to commit criminal acts, the drones can be automatically dispatched to the location of the subject with a hellfire missile to dispose of the threat. It's like spam filtering, but for people! ;)

Just more proof that... (3, Insightful)

CorvisRex (1266594) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295752)

Phillip K. Dick should be required reading for all kids. That way when they grow up and begin making decision that effect others, they just might(maybe) say, "Wow, I read something like this when I was a kid, it didn't turn out so well if I remember correctly." The reason so many Science Fiction writers can often be prophetic is that they look at a technology or an idea, and ask "I wonder what could go wrong with this?", "What will this idea mutate into in 100 years?" They think about the horrible, painful, or just bizarre turns technology and ideas can take. It is usually intended as social commentary, but is most often ignored...
Maybe they are just more in-tuned with the spirit of Murphy's Law than most....

Re:Just more proof that... (1)

Penguinisto (415985) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295972)

Phillip K. Dick should be required reading for all kids.

Followed very closely by Robert Heinlein (I specifically recommend this one [wikipedia.org] , followed by this one [wikipedia.org] .)

Good luck with that (1)

zogger (617870) | more than 3 years ago | (#33295922)

I guess these business guys just don't grok that in Mexico, people who don't want their irises scanned or to be tracked, stuff like that, are known to cut off the heads of people who are trying to dick with them. And that's *after* they have some "sport" with them.

They might as well issue these iris scanner techs *red shirts*.

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