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Amazon's Double-Helix Acquisition Hints At Gaming Console

timothy posted about 8 months ago | from the networks-need-nodes dept.

Games 116

Nerval's Lobster writes "A more prominent role in video-game development could prove the latest territory on Amazon's 'attempt to conquer' list. Yes, there's already Amazon Game Studios, which produces smaller games such as Air Patriots (a tower-defense title), but that evidently wasn't enough — Amazon has acquired Double Helix, most notably the developer behind Killer Instinct and other big-action games for PCs and consoles. Amazon confirmed the deal to multiple media outlets, suggesting that it would use Double Helix's developers and intellectual property 'as part of our ongoing commitment to build innovative games for customers.' Why would Amazon want to bulk out its game-creation abilities? Rumors have floated for the past couple weeks (hat tip to Gamespot) that the company is hard at work on an Android-based gaming console that will retail for below $300. Over the past year, it's also hired gaming luminaries such as Halo author Eric Nylund, which it probably wouldn't have done without something big — or at least interesting — in the works. Amazon would doubtlessly position such a device (if it actually becomes a reality) as the low-cost alternative to Microsoft's Xbox One and Sony's PlayStation 4. But even the cheapest console won't sell without some killer games to attract customers — and that's where Double Helix might come in. ... With Nintendo flagging, there's potentially an opening for a third console ecosystem to take hold."

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So, about Beta (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46174395)

Fuck it

Re:So, about Beta (3, Funny)

dmbasso (1052166) | about 8 months ago | (#46174419)

<blink>FUCK BETA</blink>

Where's the blink tag when we need it...

For those building slashdot alternatives, I suggest the name "backlashdot".
No slash in the name, but the logo can be \.

Re:So, about Beta (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46174929)

As we migrate our audience, we want to hear from you.
when I click on this hyperlink to send my feed back, an error message saying I have no internet connection comes up.

While i know this is because I have not integrated a mail client into my browser, (deliberately)

I havnt seen this for 10 years !!! and cant send you any feedback, and yes I do have an interwebz connection

Beta, more like betamax (doomed to failure)

Re:So, about Beta (1)

JustinOpinion (1246824) | about 8 months ago | (#46175755)

Actually, Slashdot alternatives should avoid having a name too closely tied to "Slashdot", so as to avoid trademark disputes down the road.

In fact, Slashdot has actually used the "backslash" brand. If I recall correctly, the original idea was for that site-section to house various 'about slashdot' material, but currently there seems to be nothing there [slashdot.org] . The tag "Slashback [slashdot.org] " has also been used on Slashdot and so should be avoided.

FYI, there is burgoning effort to build a replacement at AltSlashdot.org [altslashdot.org] (final name pending a community vote). If you're interested in having a replacement exist, then consider contributing to one of these efforts.

Re:So, about Beta (1)

dmbasso (1052166) | about 8 months ago | (#46175927)

In fact, Slashdot has actually used the "backslash" brand.

Note that I said "backlash" (appropriate for the context) instead of "backslash".

FYI, there is burgoning effort to build a replacement at AltSlashdot.org [altslashdot.org] (final name pending a community vote). If you're interested in having a replacement exist, then consider contributing to one of these efforts.

Yep, I'm aware. Feel free to add my suggestion there.

Re:So, about Beta (1)

Guppy (12314) | about 8 months ago | (#46175773)

For those building slashdot alternatives

Might I remind my fellow posters, that the last time a mass user-base fork occurred, we ended up with Kuro5hin [kuro5hin.org] ?

Ewww...

Get outside coverage (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46174525)

The only way to get this rolled back will be to elevate this outside of comments in Slashdot, which obviously do not have visibility to Dice. Try submitting it as a story to The Daily WTF [thedailywtf.com] . I would suggest framing it as an example of how a community-driven website can be killed by (a) not listening to community feedback and (b) mishandling a rollout.

Maybe if we can get some outside coverage, Dice will reconsider.

Dice have already written off Slashdot (5, Informative)

2phar (137027) | about 8 months ago | (#46174399)

"Slashdot Media was acquired to provide content and services that are important to technology professionals in their everyday work lives and to leverage that reach into the global technology community benefiting user engagement on the Dice.com site. The expected benefits have started to be realized at Dice.com. However, advertising revenue has declined over the past year and there is no improvement expected in the future financial performance of Slashdot Media's underlying advertising business. Therefore, $7.2 million of intangible assets and $6.3 million of goodwill related to Slashdot Media were reduced to zero." [twst.com]

Re:Dice have already written off Slashdot (0, Offtopic)

i kan reed (749298) | about 8 months ago | (#46174437)

I wonder what could have happened to all that "good will".

Re:Dice have already written off Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46174763)

In accounting, goodwill is just a line item to account for the difference between what an acquired company's assets are actually worth and the amount paid for it. So, if you pay $15m for something that only has $7m in actual assets, the rest is called "Goodwill" and (usually) written off over time.

In fact, the fact that Dice has written off these things does not at all indicate that they have written off Slashdot. Typically you want to schedule depreciation so that it offsets your profit (for tax reasons) and this typically means finding excuses to write off stuff as quickly as possible.

Re:Dice have already written off Slashdot (2, Insightful)

dmbasso (1052166) | about 8 months ago | (#46174455)

So instead of turning off the lights, they're burning down the house?

Re:Dice have already written off Slashdot (5, Interesting)

Trepidity (597) | about 8 months ago | (#46174545)

My guess is it's a combination of:

1. Belief that the current Slashdot will provide declining and not that meaningful revenue in the future; and

2. Gamble that the "Slashdot brand" can be resurrected as a vaguely tech-oriented blog/news site positioned as something more like Valleywag or Gawker.

The problem seems to be that category #2 is making a ton more money than Slashdot at the moment, so a redesign to look like those shitty sites, even if a gamble, might have positive expected returns. Even if it alienates the existing community, if the existing community just isn't making them much money, some bean-counters might not care about razing it and just repurposing the Slashdot brand for something else.

Re:Dice have already written off Slashdot (2, Interesting)

OzPeter (195038) | about 8 months ago | (#46174675)

1. Belief that the current Slashdot will provide declining and not that meaningful revenue in the future; and

Well its a big question as to whether slashdot is worth more $$$ to Dice Holdings as a success or as a failure. Wiping that $13 or so million off the books will have an effect on their end of year financials

Re:Dice have already written off Slashdot (4, Insightful)

JustinOpinion (1246824) | about 8 months ago | (#46175961)

This is probably right. We are all looking at the beta redesign as an obvious failure. But the people in power may well believe that overall the loss of the community of commenters will be "worth it" to transform the site into a higher-traffic (and thus higher-profit) news aggregator. On some level this makes sense: the active community of Slashdot commentors is far smaller than the size of the people who just visit the site. So if one can piss off the commentors but increase web traffic overall, then it's worth it.

The problem with this logic is that all of those visitors only come to the site to read (if not engage in) the commenting that goes on. Really the (relatively high-quality) comments are the only thing that differentiate Slashdot from any other website. Once you make commenting/discussion more cumbersome, it will go away, and all you will be left with is the Slashdot "brand". But does that brand really have any weight? It only does with the small community of tech-enthusiasts that you just drove away from your site. It's not like the average person is going to see a "friendlier jazzier Slashdot" and immediately think "Wow, finally a Slashdot I can enjoy!".

If you look into the financial details, it appears [prnewswire.com] that Dice considers Slashdot a loser:

... advertising revenue has declined over the past year and there is no improvement expected in the future financial performance of Slashdot.

Note that this isn't saying that Slashdot's ad revenue isn't enough to pay for operating Slashdot; merely saying that the ad revenue is falling with time. They are no doubt desperate to increase profits. It's actually quite possible that Slashdot's ad revenue is undervalued (because it isn't taking into account that many Slashdot users hold key positions where they influence what tech is purchased by companies, friends come to them for tech advice, etc.). But overall the idea that they can increase ad revenue by revamping the entire site is a bad gamble: the community will disappear in a flash, and ad revenue will drop to zero.

Ultimately, Dice management appears willing to take the gamble. It is one they will most likely lose, and we will lose Slashdot in the process. But they won't care much, since Slashdot as-is just isn't pulling in that much money. It's a sad reality that even a community as big and stable as Slashdot (generating constant ad revenue) is still too small/niche to satisfy their money-lost. Our last hope may lie in efforts to build a new site that we can migrate to (e.g. AltSlashdot.org [altslashdot.org] ).

Re:Dice have already written off Slashdot (1)

JWW (79176) | about 8 months ago | (#46176093)

If /. dies, for me, it will mark the end of an era.

I don't participate massively in comments here, but there is no other site where the level of my commenting even comes close to here.

Also, there is IMHO no other site where the comments aren't immensely crappy in comparison to this site.

If the beta goes through, its the end of an era. Youtube style web commenting will have won.

Re:Dice have already written off Slashdot (1)

Trepidity (597) | about 8 months ago | (#46176363)

It's a sad reality that even a community as big and stable as Slashdot (generating constant ad revenue) is still too small/niche to satisfy their money-lost.

Kind of a pitfall of the corporate ownership structure I guess. It's interesting to compare Kuro5hin [kuro5hin.org] , which once had considerable community overlap with Slashdot, but more or less withered until the point where good new content completely stopped appearing. Yet oddly from a purely formal perspective the site actually works, its archives are readable, and it will probably continue to work for a while. It makes enough ad revenue to pay for its upkeep, and since it's owned by just one guy who doesn't need to send quarterly reports to shareholders, there's no particular reason to kill even a modest revenue source that's on autopilot. Meanwhile a more successful site seems desperate to revamp itself...

Re:Dice have already written off Slashdot (1, Insightful)

LordLimecat (1103839) | about 8 months ago | (#46176383)

Half of the existing community is vocally ignorant of most of the things they post on.

Its very possible that the existing community ISNT that valuable. For every truly insightful post out there, there are 5 ignorant posts that were modded insightful. Many of them are factually wrong, and some reek of idealism (like the folks who worship communism and praise Cuba's government or wonder why we need a 5th amendment), but most are just hysterical off-topic comments on whatever the news-of-the-month is (see: constant posts trying to bring the NSA into any and every article). Even the submitted articles are usually not that great; a lot of submissions have headlines that straight up contradict the summary and / or story.

I do still like to come here because there are a lot of oldtimers who periodically surface and provide actual content-- but increasingly thats drowned out by the hysterics and the nonsense of all the newer users. Im strongly considering jumping ship for reddit-- they have a ton of nonsense too, but at least they tend to be pretty solid at filtering out the off-topic crap.

Re:Dice have already written off Slashdot (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46174671)

Burn down the house, sell tickets to watch the fire. Charge double for "superior seating" for those still inside (with UIDs).

Re:Dice have already written off Slashdot (-1, Offtopic)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 8 months ago | (#46174881)

So instead of turning off the lights, they're burning down the house?

Hey Henry, what are you doing? You look like you're decorating a birthday cake.

Re:Dice have already written off Slashdot (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46174533)

That only says the the stupid ignorant mother fucker MBAs at Dice have no fucking clue what they're doing in the first place. Assholes.

Re:Dice have already written off Slashdot (-1, Offtopic)

TheNastyInThePasty (2382648) | about 8 months ago | (#46174617)

Holy shit, that's huge. It all makes sense now.

Oh, so that explains it. (1, Offtopic)

moogla (118134) | about 8 months ago | (#46174643)

I was wondering why they were trying so hard to make this site an unusable mess.

Re:Oh, so that explains it. (-1, Offtopic)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 8 months ago | (#46174899)

So it's one of those situations where the business that's deep in debt suddenly has a mysterious fire and burns to the ground?

Re:Dice have already written off Slashdot (0, Offtopic)

wolvesofthenight (991664) | about 8 months ago | (#46174645)

No surprise. As I noted elsewhere, increasing profit from Slashdot while maintaining or increasing quality for the current user base would be hard. I would like to see it - the quality around here could really use a boost. But I think a Dilbertesque attempt at sacking the name for short term gains is more likely, possibly followed by a sale of the mangled corpse. Your point that they have already written off slashdot supports this. Maybe we will read about it on The Daily WTF. Too bad Dice isn't trying to make a few bucks by selling Slashdot off to some geek club... Anyway, where should the lifeboats head as the rats flee the sinking Slashdot? What other news sites do people recommend?

Re:Dice have already written off Slashdot (-1, Offtopic)

Antipater (2053064) | about 8 months ago | (#46174695)

I think the first and easiest solution is just the /r/slashdot subreddit. A suitable standalone replacement could be decided upon once there and free of the threat of Beta.

Re:Dice have already written off Slashdot (1)

geminidomino (614729) | about 8 months ago | (#46176941)

Good luck with that one. I've looked; it's a ghost town.

Re:Dice have already written off Slashdot (3, Interesting)

Baloroth (2370816) | about 8 months ago | (#46174919)

Ars Technica [arstechnica.com] generally covers a lot of the same material that Slashdot does, except with proper editing and writing. News-wise they're quite a lot better than Slashdot, IMO (I only really come here for the comments, since Slashdot's moderation system and sheer quantity of comments means you can often find some real gems).

Re:Dice have already written off Slashdot (1, Offtopic)

evilRhino (638506) | about 8 months ago | (#46174733)

I sure am glad these conglomerates are in the position to buy out these companies and make them more successful by using proven business tactics. Let's give them another round of tax-cuts for creating jobs!

Re:Dice have already written off Slashdot (-1, Offtopic)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 8 months ago | (#46174869)

Maybe Taco can pick it back up at the yard sale.

Re:Dice have already written off Slashdot (-1, Offtopic)

denzacar (181829) | about 8 months ago | (#46175185)

Fuck 'em. That just makes this whole thing even more fun.

In the "Yes, I like that tree you're cutting down but it sure is funny watching you cut do that while sitting on it's branches." way.

So... Fuck Beta.

Re:Dice have already written off Slashdot (4, Informative)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 8 months ago | (#46175435)

Ooh, looks like the Slashdot editors are running in here with limitless mod points trying to put out the fire. I guess they finally got out of their weekly circle-jerk, cleaned the spooge off Timothy's shirt, and noticed what was going on.

First game is destroy the Beta (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46174403)

most successful launch in history

I can't think of how to tie this into Beta (1, Offtopic)

TheNastyInThePasty (2382648) | about 8 months ago | (#46174407)

So here we go: BETA SUCKS!

Re:I can't think of how to tie this into Beta (1, Offtopic)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 8 months ago | (#46174925)

Speaking of Amazon, has anyone seen that new Amazon show "Betas" [amazon.com] ?

Re:I can't think of how to tie this into Beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46175451)

Time to fork it.

I'm switching to Lynx. (0, Offtopic)

Fx.Dr (915071) | about 8 months ago | (#46174409)

I don't want to start a holy war here, but what is the deal with you Slashdot Beta fanatics? I've been sitting here at my freelance gig in front of Beta (1920x1080) for about 20 minutes now while I attempt to reply to another poster. 20 minutes. At home, on Reddit via IE11, which by all standards should be a lot slower than Beta, the same operation would take about 2 minutes. If that.

In addition, during this post, Chrome will not work. And everything else has ground to a halt. Even Javascript is straining to keep up as I type this.

I won't bore you with the laundry list of other problems that I've encountered while browsing various threads but suffice it to say there have been many, not the least of which is I've never seen Beta run faster than its community-driven counterparts, despite the Betas' faster bootstrap design. My 486/66 with 8 megs of ram runs faster than this site layout at times. From a productivity standpoint, I don't get how people can claim that the Slashdot Beta is a superior forum.

Beta addicts, flame me if you'd like, but I'd rather hear some intelligent reasons why anyone would choose to use Beta over other faster, cheaper, more readable fora.

Re:I'm switching to Lynx. (2, Funny)

sunderland56 (621843) | about 8 months ago | (#46174553)

From a productivity standpoint,

If you're interested in productivity, you won't visit slashdot, beta or classic.

Re:I'm switching to Lynx. (1, Offtopic)

Somebody Is Using My (985418) | about 8 months ago | (#46174917)

There are NO "beta addicts"

The community has universally spoken against the new look. I have not seen one post that has been in favor of it. In over twenty years of being on the Internet, that is a first for me.

The only people who seem interested in the beta seem to be the people at Dice pushing it down at us. There are numerous speculations as to why this is (an earnest belief it improves the site, somebody's reputation on the line, or an attempt to orient the brand at a new demographic). Dice's continued silence on the matter is quite telling, however; it is obvious they are not concerned with what the community thinks about the matter.

At the moment, I am still coming back to Slashdot because the circus and uproar about the beta is just too much fun to miss out on, but like many here I expect that - barring a reversal of intent on Dice's behalf - I eventually will migrate to some other website.

Already some suggestions have been made:

Ars Technica [arstechnica.com]
Alt Slashdot [altslashdot.org] (currently in development)
Subreddit /r/Slashdot [reddit.com]
kuro5hin [kuro5hin.org]

I am on the lookout for more.

Re:I'm switching to Lynx. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46175027)

It's a spin on an old joke, take a breath and relax.

Re:I'm switching to Lynx. (1)

cfulton (543949) | about 8 months ago | (#46176325)

Who here was ever saying Slashdot Beta is superior? It SUCKS.

Re:I'm switching to Lynx. (1)

MachineShedFred (621896) | about 8 months ago | (#46176907)

It pains me to see that this classic Slashdot flame [kottke.org] has been used, and nobody even recognized it.

There's more than just Beta ruining this site, unfortunately.

Boycott (0, Offtopic)

Koen Lefever (2543028) | about 8 months ago | (#46174427)

Please post this to new articles if it hasn't been posted yet.

On February 5, 2014, Slashdot announced through a javascript popup that they are starting to "move in to" the new Slashdot Beta design.

Slashdot Beta is a trend-following attempt to give Slashdot a fresh look, an approach that has led to less space for text and an abandonment of the traditional Slashdot look. Much worse than that, Slashdot Beta fundamentally breaks the classic Slashdot discussion and moderation system.

If you haven't seen Slashdot Beta already, open this [slashdot.org] in a new tab. After seeing that, click here [slashdot.org] to return to classic Slashdot.

We should boycott stories and only discuss the abomination that is Slashdot Beta until Dice abandons the project. We should boycott slashdot entirely during the week of Feb 10 to Feb 17 as part of the wider slashcott [slashdot.org]

Moderators - only spend mod points on comments that discuss Beta Commentors - only discuss Beta http://slashdot.org/recent [slashdot.org] - Vote up the Fuck Beta stories

Keep this up for a few days and we may finally get the PHBs attention.

Captcha: fuckbeta

http://developers.slashdot.org... [slashdot.org] http://developers.slashdot.org... [slashdot.org] http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... [slashdot.org] http://science.slashdot.org/co... [slashdot.org]

Re:Boycott (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46175521)

Wonder who the drooling retards were that downvoted your comment..

Re:Boycott (1)

Koen Lefever (2543028) | about 8 months ago | (#46176159)

The slashdot editors are mass-downmodding the Beta comments.

We post these things because we care. Our overlords are trying to stop making us care.

For posteriority: most these "-1 offtopic" and "0 offtopic" posts that you see in this thread were at one point "+5 interesting", "+5 insightful" or "+5 funny". That was the opinion of the people with mod points, what you see now is what the editors were told to do by Dice management.

They're designing Amazon Beta (5, Funny)

Antipater (2053064) | about 8 months ago | (#46174429)

Amazon's redesigning their site. They're removing the whole shopping functionality. beta.amazon.com will simply show you pictures of things you might want to buy, one at a time with blinding whitespace surrounding all the pictures. You can't actually buy them, though.

Slashdot Beta = Windows Shitsta (0, Offtopic)

jkrise (535370) | about 8 months ago | (#46174431)

I have been reading Slashdot since 1997 or thereabouts. Every single day after 1998; of that I am sure. Even when I went out on vacation; when I got married; when I was convalescing after angioplasty- when I returned to work; I would read every single article; and if interested; the comments as well.

Some days back, I stumbled onto Slashdot Beta; I felt it sucked, so I came back to the old design. Today when I open any article; the only comments I find are those complaining about Beta. I use Opera for the past 14 years; so I couldn't understand why many readers found it difficult to just get back to Classic.

Then I started Firefox and opened Slashdot in that. I just couldn't believe the shit I was seeing. The main storythere was about the New Zealand Spy Agency. I carefully looked for 3 more recent stories; and couldnt find them at all. The reason was simple: the top 3 stories were disguised as ads; bcos that's how ads look in the regular site.

Then I clicked on those stories and tried to comment. Firefox went into a never-ending loop; I waited for 7 minutes, and killed the browser. I gave up on the beta.
-------------------
The reasons I visit Slashdot are:
1% - to look at the ads; and click on them
5% - to read the stories
3% - to read the linked artices
the rest - to read tons of Insightful comments from fellow Slashdotters
--------------------
But in the Beta; I couldn't even get to the Comments section on my 6-yr old Compaq laptop after 10 minutes. So I went back to Opera and Classic Slashdot. Already the Snowden article had comments cursing Beta. So I prepared this post in Notepad.

From now on, I will try for First Post with this one; in every new article.

Slashdotters I admire very much; and we are very successful people as a rule; minus of course the paid shills. I am sure I will keep this up and burn my karma until everyone else including those not fortunate enough to be using Opera; also stop complaining; and Beta goes away. Like Vista Shitsta; Millennium and Microsoft Bob.

Cheers.

dice.com is not the arbiter of elegance. (0, Offtopic)

CaptainStumpy (1132145) | about 8 months ago | (#46174435)

Furthermore, I think the beta /. must be destroyed.

I am Slashdot (0, Offtopic)

OzPeter (195038) | about 8 months ago | (#46174453)

I submit stories. I read stories. I add comments. I moderate comments. I am the reason that there is ad revenue.

I am Slashdot.

Re:I am Slashdot (1, Offtopic)

GoodNewsJimDotCom (2244874) | about 8 months ago | (#46174547)

They want to do DIGG route. It is all a corporate exec's perverted fantasy,"Look at how many people watch our content. Imagine how much ad revenue we'd get if we replaced all the content with 100% advertising." They don't realize if they lose all their users, they'll have no more revenue.

Fuck astroturfing, fuck beta (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46174457)

Nerval's Lobster is an astroturfing ghostwriting 'senior editor' for the Slashdot spinoff sites.

Fuck astroturfing, fuck beta

Re:Fuck astroturfing, fuck beta (-1, Offtopic)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 8 months ago | (#46174963)

Yeah, I was wondering who the fuck was even submitting articles at this point. Guess they're down to having to make up submitters to keep up the pretense that everyone isn't in open rebellion.

Slashdot BETA (3, Insightful)

mrpacmanjel (38218) | about 8 months ago | (#46174463)

For the time being you can do this: www.slashdot.org?nobeta=1

Make you voice heard here:
http://beta.slashdot.org/fireh... [slashdot.org]

To quote Steve Jobs (rip) - "..and one more thing.."

"..FUCK BETA..."

Re:Slashdot BETA (1)

Trepidity (597) | about 8 months ago | (#46174565)

There's also a link in the footer (for now) to "classic" Slashdot.

Slashdot Beta hints at losing users (1)

east coast (590680) | about 8 months ago | (#46174467)

Gollum: I hates the Slashdot Beta, fat hobitses!!!

Who the hell wrote this? (1, Insightful)

Piata (927858) | about 8 months ago | (#46174471)

Nothing Amazon can do in the near future will ever measure up to Nintendo or take that covetted third place in the console ecosystem. They'll be lucky if they pull of an Ouya by the time they're done.

Re:Who the hell wrote this? (1)

jellomizer (103300) | about 8 months ago | (#46174559)

In the fight for third place, all will happen is killing off the other guys who are trying to get to third place.
Leaving the current 3rd place holder in a stronger position.

Re:Who the hell wrote this? (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about 8 months ago | (#46174833)

Thank you for posting a comment that's actually relevant to the story. It's nice to see there's at least one other adult attempting to read the site.

Re:Who the hell wrote this? (1)

Wookact (2804191) | about 8 months ago | (#46175509)

If amazon comes out with a game console it will probably be about as popular as beta.

Re:Who the hell wrote this? (0)

tlhIngan (30335) | about 8 months ago | (#46174953)

Nothing Amazon can do in the near future will ever measure up to Nintendo or take that covetted third place in the console ecosystem. They'll be lucky if they pull of an Ouya by the time they're done.

I don't think Amazon is releasing a console. It's against their business model.

Apple sells content to sell hardware. Apple doesn't make much on iTunes (sure, it brought in $1B in revenue, but they don't break out how much it costs to run).

Amazon, however, sells hardware to sell content. Their Kindles are basically sold at cost so they can sell you books, movies, apps, games and music. And it looks like Amazon bought them so Amazon could create original games and apps that would only be in Amazon's app store, not Google's.

Google is locking down Android by close-sourcing most of the apps, most likely because Amazon is a worthwhile competitor that's able to actually lock Google out (something Google was afraid of with iOS, is now happening to Google on something Google released).

A few good games available only through Amazon could draw people and other developers to Amazon's app store.

I don't think that's lockdown (2)

tepples (727027) | about 8 months ago | (#46175429)

Google is locking down Android by close-sourcing most of the apps

Bundling proprietary applications with a free operating system is not "locking down" any more than Windows 7 or Windows XP or OS X is "locked down". Removing the "Unknown sources" and "Enable USB debugging" checkboxes and charging a substantial fee to restore it, as Apple and the major console makers do, would be "locking down".

FUCK BETA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46174473)

You heard me, you incompetent, ignorant stupid mother fucker Slashdot MBA management dipshits.

Re:FUCK BETA (0)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 8 months ago | (#46175005)

Slashdot MBA management dipshits

In all fairness to MBA programs of the world, I'm pretty sure most of the execs at Dice never made it past their first year of community college. I mean, it's kind of hard to study with your head up your ass.

Beta Sucks (5, Insightful)

aardvarkjoe (156801) | about 8 months ago | (#46174481)

By now, a professional organization would have at least acknowledged the complaints. Slashdot hasn't yet, and I'm willing to bet they never do. For a site that posts so many stories complaining about what other people do, they're remarkably slow to admit when they make a mistake.

Continue to turn the comments threads into a trash heap to drive people away. And don't forget to turn on your ad blocker. Do what you can to get their attention until they publically acknowledge that this is a mistake -- because they're not going to pay attention otherwise.

Re:Beta Sucks (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46174933)

People hated the 2006 redesign, too, and yet they are still here. Why would they acknowledge a problem that by all past indication will disappear within a couple of weeks/months?

Re:Beta Sucks (1, Offtopic)

aardvarkjoe (156801) | about 8 months ago | (#46175129)

People hated the 2006 redesign, too, and yet they are still here. Why would they acknowledge a problem that by all past indication will disappear within a couple of weeks/months?

The classic interface continued to be available. That's what I've been using. The big difference now is that they want to remove the old interface.

Re:Beta Sucks (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46174987)

By now, a professional organization would have at least acknowledged the complaints. Slashdot hasn't yet, and I'm willing to bet they never do.

That's because they're a site that deals mainly in entitled, whiny neckbeards, so they're quite used to this bullshit from their adolescent-minded userbase. They've actually put up with this several times in the past: Every single time they change even a single goddamned thing on the website, these crybabies come out of the woodwork to do what they do best (read: do the only thing they know how to do), and that's cry.

They know nobody's going to leave. If they wanted to, they would have already. Digg was a thing. Reddit is now a thing. Slashdot outlived the former, and given nobody's actually leaving the site over this in lieu of keeping up a constant whiny din of comments, it will most likely outlive the latter (ain't inertia a bitch?).

So put up or shut up. Either leave or quit your bitching. Conveniently, "put up" MEANS "shut up" in this case. 1994 isn't coming back, they're not going back in time to the old Javascriptless form-driven website, they don't want to run an ancient website for a bunch of aging nerds who will demonstrably complain about literally anything, and all this is doing is showing the immaturity of the site's users. Just leave it as a ghost town and move on to any of the "superior" websites everyone keeps prattling on about if you're that concerned about it.

Re:Beta Sucks (1)

MozeeToby (1163751) | about 8 months ago | (#46175307)

Every single time they change even a single goddamned thing on the website, these crybabies come out of the woodwork to do what they do best (read: do the only thing they know how to do), and that's cry.

Previous revisions were awkward but usable, the Beta simply isn't. It's missing features, other features are broken, it wastes literally 50% of the horizontal space, and by far the worst of all it makes comments an afterthought.

They know nobody's going to leave.

I think you'll be surprised.

Slashdot outlived the former, and given nobody's actually leaving the site over this in lieu of keeping up a constant whiny din of comments, it will most likely outlive the latter

Right now it's optional with it being required on the horizon so people speak up and say the future is not acceptable. When it becomes the only way to view the site, people will leave. I can only hope a single viable alternative pops up rather than a half dozen that destroys the commenting community completely.

Re:Beta Sucks (0)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 8 months ago | (#46175133)

They haven't noticed. They've spent all morning in their weekly circle-jerk. It's Timothy's turn as pivot man.

Re:Beta Sucks (1)

Teckla (630646) | about 8 months ago | (#46175635)

By now, a professional organization would have at least acknowledged the complaints. Slashdot hasn't yet, and I'm willing to bet they never do. For a site that posts so many stories complaining about what other people do, they're remarkably slow to admit when they make a mistake.

Continue to turn the comments threads into a trash heap to drive people away. And don't forget to turn on your ad blocker. Do what you can to get their attention until they publically acknowledge that this is a mistake -- because they're not going to pay attention otherwise.

I can't even get them to give us an option to turn off fucking autorefresh. It seems rather hopeless. :(

Re:Beta Sucks (1)

imidan (559239) | about 8 months ago | (#46176431)

Oh, they've acknowledged the complaints. They say there's been "a lot of griping." Which is, of course, just their way of trivializing the complaints so that they can ignore them and go on with their plan anyway.

Fuck Beta.

Not another Android console... (1, Informative)

Nightbrood (6060) | about 8 months ago | (#46174523)

All Amazon needs to do is look at Ouya. It basically targeted the same space. Perhaps Amazon thinks their marketing and distribution engines will make it successful where Ouya has struggled but I doubt it. The problem with these "consoles" is that they target casual gamers and casual gamers are more than happy with their cell phones and tablets. Up selling them to an Android console would be an interesting sales job.

Almost forgot... fuck beta.

Re:Not another Android console... (1)

ZombieBraintrust (1685608) | about 8 months ago | (#46174807)

At $300 it is not the same space at all.

QOD right now is prescient! (1)

OzPeter (195038) | about 8 months ago | (#46174543)

It is now pitch dark. If you proceed, you will likely fall into a pit.

So isn't Slashdot.org code open source? (2, Insightful)

GoodNewsJimDotCom (2244874) | about 8 months ago | (#46174569)

What is stopping someone from reopening Slashdot on another site under another name?

Re:So isn't Slashdot.org code open source? (2, Interesting)

Koen Lefever (2543028) | about 8 months ago | (#46174639)

What is stopping someone from reopening Slashdot on another site under another name?

Check out AltSlashdot [altslashdot.org] .

Re:So isn't Slashdot.org code open source? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46174665)

Slashcode hasn't been updated since 2009 and if you head over to the Git repository you'll discover that it has no commits in it at all. Or maybe Sourceforge is broken, I don't know, but the link to the git repository brings me to an effectively empty page showing no commits.

Besides, Slashdot isn't exactly complicated. Rewriting the site from scratch wouldn't be that difficult using modern web tools, and there are plenty of far superior CMS packages out there you could use anyway. The true challenge would be getting the community to move.

Re:So isn't Slashdot.org code open source? (1)

sexconker (1179573) | about 8 months ago | (#46176035)

Or maybe Sourceforge is broken, I don't know

The fact that we can't tell when Sourceforge is broken is proof enough that it is always broken. Every god damned project has a different series of links to follow and incantations to perform just to get to the fucking files I want to download.

Still better than Slashdot Beta, though.

Re:So isn't Slashdot.org code open source? (0)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 8 months ago | (#46175161)

Nothing. The problem with forking it is that you need a really BIG name in geekdom to head it. Otherwise, you'll end up with a shitload of forks, each with a tiny userbase (defeating the whole point of Slashdot).

amazon is dying (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46174703)

No meme, i'm serious, the stock was trading at 1,000 times earnings, yes ONE THOUSAND TIMES EARNINGS. Do you really think a glorified online retailer is worth this valuation? People were acting like Amazon was going to be the next Walmart but it's not. So now Bezos is desperate to find some scheme to keep the share price up from drone delivery rumors to gaming console rumors. Sorry, Amazon is a dotcom era boondoggle that just took an extra decade to pop.

1984 (1)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | about 8 months ago | (#46174797)

I can't help but think of 1984. Steam Console, Pandora, iPhone and Android phones and tablets--phones are probably safe--all over the place, Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, and now Amazon? Another video game bubble, gearing up for another video game crash? With Nintendo floundering, Microsoft and Sony being all talk, and iPhone and Android developers being essentially Gateway prospectors, I'm wondering if the collapse isn't already starting.

Is that the new modus operandi? American consumers are so fucking stupid that the bubble is already collapsing while it's just starting to grow, and people keep getting on the dumbshit bandwagon because there are still idiots to soak while others are falling off the wagon having lost the spotlight and gotten caught in the crash? It's like if the housing bubble popped in 2005, house prices started to drop, and people kept buying houses like crazy because "they're gonna be worth a ton of money!" right up to 2009--buying demand that should fuel a bubble, right in the middle of an ongoing burst, because they're too stupid to see that the sky really is falling all around them.

Re:1984 (1)

kamapuaa (555446) | about 8 months ago | (#46175119)

You're really straining to try to make a point. iPads/tablets aren't primarily game machines. Sure you can play games on them, but I'm guessing people play games on computer even more, and sales of computers have been going down.

Also, video games aren't just an American thing. Nintendo and PS4, for instance...

And consoles aren't investments in the future. They're just something you play video games on. If you enjoy video games, no harm done. The video game crash of '84 was bad for the companies, but it's not like consumers got burned by their Atari suddenly becoming worthless.

Re:1984 (1)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | about 8 months ago | (#46176743)

Uh, if you spend $600 on an XBox and two $50 games come out on it that are worth playing, you got burned. Should have spent $250 on a Wii and got Mario, Zelda, Metroid, plenty of VC games, some third-party stuff, and another pile. It's not $150,000 burned, but it's burned.

And my point is that we have everybody in the fucking world building consoles now, selling consoles now, it looks like we're going to have a big 15 instead of a big 3 soon. That's a mindset that people are going to rush out and buy consoles like crazy, it's a big market, get in on the bubble. But at the same time, profits are floundering: the console makers are seeing reduced profits, the market as a whole is dying off, yet consumers are still buying into it. The replacement market--tablet games--is sucking sales away from consoles, handhelds, and PC games, but not making anyone any money. Everyone's jumping in on this WHILE IT'S COLLAPSING!

In this case, the investors aren't consumers who bought a console that produced only shit and thus was a wasted half-a-grand; the investments here are ventures into the console and gaming market, both into building a new console and into producing shittons of Android and iOS apps. And all those investors are going to get burned. And American consumers are probably going to gobble up some of it as it fails, then get stuck with useless machines that they can't play any good games on.

Beta Feedback (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46174799)

Dear Slashdot admins,
I just tried the new beta site, and I have a concern.
In every story that I click on, 90% of the comments seem to just say, "Fuck Beta".
I would suggest sticking with the current format until you can fix this obvious bug.

Also, the new layout is horrible.

Thank you,
Concerned Reader

Re:Beta Feedback (0)

LaminatorX (410794) | about 8 months ago | (#46175163)

Bravo, Anonymous Coward, bravo. I wish I had some mod points for this one.

BETA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46174911)

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beta 0
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SUCKS!!!!!

Is there really this much market share? (1)

arctus (2753027) | about 8 months ago | (#46174951)

From my understanding, even with Nintendo and Microsoft selling less consoles, any open market share is being cornered by the pending Steam OS console and a flourishing PS4. This new Amazon based Android console wouldn't seem viable in the same market space. Android gaming is niche' to the say the least. Do you really need 4+ fully fledged consoles each with around 8% exclusive software titles (90% for Nintendo) plus the usual casual fair like Android/iOS games on smartphones and an ever present PC MasterRace? I don't think the market will take this kind of fragmentation. Fanboys aside, the platform that offers the best commodity services (3rd party apps, software store, online service) in addition to the greatest number of quality software titles, at the lowest cost of ownership/cost of entry should hold the most market share ( cough* PS3/4 cough*). And that doesn't seem to be the mentality of these new comer consoles that seem to be targeting Nintendo style niche marketing. So my question is, will Nintendo pull a Sega?

Re:Is there really this much market share? (1)

tepples (727027) | about 8 months ago | (#46175499)

an ever present PC MasterRace?

There's one thing the PC Master Race hasn't mastered: how to market living-room PCs to customers who aren't hardcore geeks [pineight.com] . Really what consoles are good for [pineight.com] is ease of use and single-screen multiplayer [pineight.com] . If PCs catch up in those respects, we won't need consoles anymore.

Fuck Beta Indeed! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46175089)

With a broken Yoo-Hoo bottle at that.

Beta, Beta, Beta, Beta, Baked Beans & Beta (0, Offtopic)

neo-mkrey (948389) | about 8 months ago | (#46175313)

That one doesn't have much Beta in it.

I's the customer! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46175391)

eerm... fuck beta?
oh yes... FUCK BETA!

I'm confused, what is going on? (2)

patric91 (656709) | about 8 months ago | (#46175695)

But what does this article have to do with the Beta?

Not the way to pick up Nintendo customers (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about 8 months ago | (#46175701)

If they are trying to make more FPS and fighting games, they shouldn't expect existing Nintendo customers to flock to their system. There are already too many of those titles on the Sony and Microsoft systems, and they have established software and user bases. Say what you will about Nintendo hardware but the list of top selling titles for the Wii and Wii U consoles looks nothing at all like the list for the playstation and xbox consoles.

Fuck Beta (1)

sexconker (1179573) | about 8 months ago | (#46175987)

The day I lose access to the classic version of Slashdot is the day I block slashdot.org at the border.
Your move, Dice.

NO to Beta (1)

mccotter (185752) | about 8 months ago | (#46176147)

Do not make beta mandatory. Keep classic.

Amazon building console, google is ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46176469)

... building a robot to play it?

Sadness of beta site for me today and how long (1)

oRCAD Monkey (1867884) | about 8 months ago | (#46177701)

I try twice maybe work If not I will have MUCH MUCH more sadness today and for long time. Maybe beta not beta soon to make me happy. If beta beta sadness will be extremley sad sad sad sad sad sad to me. sad beta beta me sad. HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY NO BETA!!! HI. I posted this to see what it would look like on the beta website.. If they call it beta isn't it supposed to be working? maybe they will fix Slashdot Beta and everyone will be happy again. Can you see this? I can't. What is wrong? Is this why they call it beta? I hope someone will be able to fix this because I am not happy it is not working. Maybe after the beta test is over it will work. It sure doesn't work now. I am getting even sadder. It seems to work on the old site but the beta site is not very good and is making me sad. sad sad sad. I am not very happy when Slashdot makes me very sad. What will happen to me when classic is GONE!!! I will try posting this on YouTube PLEASE HELP ME!!!!! A little history of Slashdot courtesy of Wikipedia. What it was before It was destroyed by Beta. I tried posting this before but could not see it with beta. What am I doing wrong? I guess I will have to keep on trying until I can read it. Maybe that is why they call it beta. I am sure they will fix everything and everyone will be happy again. Tell me if you can read this. I am really upset that I can not see my own posts Maybe that is why they call it beta. I am sure they will fix everything and everyone will be happy again. Can you see this? I can't. What is wrong? Is this why they call it beta? I hope someone will be able to fix this because I am not happy it is not working. Maybe after the beta test is over it will work. It sure doesn't work now. I am getting even sadder.PLEASE HELP ME!!!!! The origins of the site now known as Slashdot date back to July 1997 when Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda started a personal website called Chips & Dips, which featured a single "rant" each day about something that interested him – typically something to do with Linux or open-source software. At the time, Malda was a student at Hope College in Holland, Michigan, majoring in computer science. The site became Slashdot in September 1997 under the slogan "News for Nerds. Stuff that Matters," and quickly became a hotspot on the Web for news and information of interest to computer geeks.[4] The name "Slashdot" came from a somewhat "obnoxious parody of a URL" – when Malda registered the domain, he desired to make a name that was "silly and unpronounceable" – try pronouncing out, "h-t-t-p-colon-slash-slash-slashdot-dot-org".[5] By June 1998 the site was seeing as many as 100,000 page views per day and advertisers began to take notice.[4] By December 1998, Slashdot had net revenues of $18,000, yet its Internet profile was higher, and revenues were expected to increase. On June 29, 1999, the site was sold to Linux megasite Andover.net for $1.5 million in cash and $7 million in Andover stock at the IPO price. Part of the deal was contingent upon the continued employment of Rob Malda and Jeff Bates and on "the achievement of certain milestones". With the acquisition of Slashdot, Andover.net could now advertise itself as "the leading Linux/Open Source destination on the Internet".[6][7] Andover.net eventually merged with VA Linux on February 3, 2000,[8] which changed its name to SourceForge, Inc. on May 24, 2007, and became Geeknet, Inc. on November 4, 2009.[9] Slashdot's 10,000th article was posted after two and a half years on February 24, 2000,[10] and the 100,000th article was posted on December 11, 2009 after 12 years online.[11] During the first 12 years, the most active story with the most responses posted was the post-2004 US Presidential Election article "Kerry Concedes Election To Bush" with 5,687 posts. This followed the creation of a new article section, politics.slashdot.org, created at the start of the 2004 election on September 7, 2004.[12] Many of the most popular stories are political, with "Strike on Iraq" (March 19, 2003) the second-most-active article and "Barack Obama Wins US Presidency" (November 5, 2008) the third-most-active. The rest of the 10 most active articles are an article announcing the 2005 London bombings, and several articles about Evolution vs. Intelligent Design, Saddam Hussein's capture, and Fahrenheit 9/11. Articles about Microsoft and its Windows Operating System are popular—a thread posted in 2002 titled "What's Keeping You On Windows?" was the 10th-most-active story, and an article about Windows 2000/NT4 source-code leaks the most visited article with more than 680,000 hits.[13] Some controversy erupted on March 9, 2001 after an anonymous user posted the full text of Scientology's "Operating Thetan Level Three" (OT III) document in a comment attached to a Slashdot article. The Church of Scientology demanded that Slashdot remove the document under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. A week later, in a long article, Slashdot editors explained their decision to remove the page while providing links and information on how to get the document from other sources.[14] Slashdot Japan was launched on May 28, 2001 (although the first article was published April 5, 2001) and is an official offshoot of the US-based Web site. The site is currently owned by OSDN-Japan, Inc., and carries some of the US-based Slashdot articles as well as localized stories.[15][16] An external site, todhsalS, has reported selected stories published on Slashdot Japan in English since March 1, 2009.[17] On Valentine's Day 2002, founder Rob Malda proposed to longtime girlfriend Kathleen Fent using the front page of Slashdot.[18][19] They were married on December 8, 2002, in Las Vegas, Nevada.[20] Slashdot implemented a subscription service on March 1, 2002. Slashdot's subscription model works by allowing users to pay a small fee to be able to view pages without banner ads, starting at a rate of $5 per 1,000 page views – non-subscribers may still view articles and respond to comments, with banner ads in place.[21] On March 6, 2003, subscribers were given the ability to see articles 10 to 20 minutes before they are released to the public.[22] Slashdot altered its threaded discussion forum display software to explicitly show domains for links in articles, as "users made a sport out of tricking unsuspecting readers into visiting [Goatse.cx]."[23] April Fools' Day 2006 logo In observance of April Fools' Day (April 1) in 2006, Slashdot temporarily changed its signature teal color theme to a warm palette of bubblegum pink and changed its masthead from the usual, "News for Nerds" motto to, "OMG!!! Ponies!!!" Editors joked that this was done to increase female readership.[24] In another supposed April Fools' Day joke, User Achievement tags were introduced on April 1, 2009.[25] This system allowed users to be tagged with various achievements, such as "The Tagger" for tagging a story or "Member of the {1,2,3,4,5} Digit UID Club" for having a Slashdot UID consisting of a certain number of digits. While it was posted on April Fools' Day to allow for certain joke achievements, the system is real.[26] Slashdot unveiled its newly redesigned site on June 4, 2006, following a CSS Redesign Competition. The winner of the competition was Alex Bendiken, who built on the initial CSS framework of the site. The new site looks similar to the old one but is more polished with more rounded curves, collapsible menus, and updated fonts.[27] On November 9 that same year, Malda wrote that Slashdot attained 16,777,215 (or 224 1) comments, which broke the database for three hours until the administrators fixed the issue.[28] On January 25, 2011, Malda announced that the site launched its third major redesign in its 13.5-year history, which gutted the HTML and CSS, and updated the graphics.[29] On August 25, 2011, Malda announced that he was resigning as Editor-in-Chief of Slashdot, effective immediately. He did not mention any immediate plans for the future, other than spending more time with his family, catching up on some reading, and possibly writing a book.[30][31] His final farewell message received over 1,400 posts within 24 hours on the site.[32] On December 7, 2011, Slashdot announced that it would start to push what the company described as "sponsored" Ask Slashdot questions.[33] On March 28, 2012, Slashdot announced the launch of slashdot TV.[34] In September 2012, it was announced that Slashdot had been acquired by Dice Holdings, alongside other Geeknet websites including SourceForge and Freecode, for $20 million in cash.[2][35] Dice, owner of job listing and career websites, stated that there were no plans for major changes to Slashdot.[35] However, beginning October 1, 2013, the site is currently in "beta" for a new, controversial redesign that looks more like typical blog websites with the once elaborate comment system now replaced with a simpler one at the end.[36] Administration[edit] Team[edit] Rob Malda, Founder of Slashdot The site is owned by Dice Holdings. It was run by its founder, Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda, from 1998 until 2011. He shared editorial responsibilities with several other editors including Timothy Lord, Patrick "Scuttlemonkey" McGarry, Jeff "Soulskill" Boehm, Rob "Samzenpus" Rozeboom, and Keith Dawson.[37][38] Jonathan "cowboyneal" Pater is another popular editor of Slashdot, who came to work for Slashdot as a programmer and systems administrator. His online nickname (handle), CowboyNeal, is inspired by a Grateful Dead tribute to Neal Cassady in their song, "That’s It for the Other One". He is best known as the target of the usual comic poll option,[39] a tradition started by Chris DiBona.[40] Slash and peer moderation[edit] The administration of the site uses the Slash source code and database, a content management system available under the GNU General Public License.[41] Slashdot's editors are primarily responsible for selecting and editing the primary stories daily from submitters; they provide a one-paragraph summary for each and a link to an external site where the story originated. Each story becomes the topic for a threaded discussion among the site's users.[42] A user-based moderation system is employed to filter out abusive comments.[43] Every comment is initially given a score of -1 to +2, with a default score of +1 for registered users, 0 for anonymous users (Anonymous Coward), +2 for users with high "karma", or 1 for users with low "karma". As moderators read comments attached to articles, they click to moderate the comment, either up (+1) or down (1). Moderators may choose to attach a particular descriptor to the comments as well, such as normal, offtopic, flamebait, troll, redundant, insightful, interesting, informative, funny, overrated, or underrated, with each corresponding to a -1 or +1 rating. So a comment may be seen to have a rating of "+1 insightful" or "-1 troll".[38] Moderation points add to a user's karma, and users with high "karma" are eligible to become moderators themselves. The system does not promote regular users as "moderators" and instead assigns five moderation points at a time to users based on the number of comments they have entered in the system – once a user's moderation points are used up, they can no longer moderate articles (though they can be assigned more moderation points at a later date). Paid staff editors have an unlimited number of moderation points.[38][42][44] A given comment can have any integer score from -1 to +5, and registered users of Slashdot can set a personal threshold so that no comments with a lesser score are displayed.[42][44] For instance, a user reading Slashdot at level +5 will only see the highest rated comments, while a user reading at level -1 will see a more "unfiltered, anarchic version".[38] A meta-moderation system was implemented on September 7, 1999,[45] to moderate the moderators and help contain abuses in the moderation system. Meta-moderators are presented with a set of moderations that they may rate as either fair or unfair. For each moderation, the meta-moderator sees the original comment and the reason assigned by the moderator (e.g. troll, funny), and the meta-moderator can click to see the context of comments surrounding the one that was moderated.[42][44] Features[edit] Slashdot features discussion forums on a variety of technology- and science-related topics, or "News for Nerds", as its motto states. Articles are divided into the following sections:[46] Apple – news related to products from Apple Inc., such as Mac OS X or iPhone. Ask Slashdot – articles that seek advice from users about jobs, computer hardware, software glitches, philosophical problems, or more. Book Reviews – original book reviews on (not necessarily) tech books. BSD – news about the various modern versions of UNIX derived from the UCB distribution. Developers – news about software or programming. Features – original, feature-length articles. Games – gaming news. Geeks in Space – a web audio broadcast featuring several of the editors of Slashdot (outdated; no new episodes have been posted recently). Idle – miscellaneous and humorous articles, pictures, and videos. Interviews – interviews with various people related to science and technology. Information Technology (IT) – anything that people with "Information Technology" in their job description might be interested to know. Linux – news specific to the Linux operating system (any variant or distribution). Politics – news typically relevant to politics of the United States, but occasionally featuring international political news. It was originally created to cover the 2004 United States Presidential Election. Polls – a poll is usually run on the site in the right-hand margin, asking users their choice on a variety of topics. In the earlier years of the site, one of the options that could be selected was CowboyNeal, the handle of Jonathan Pater, an administrator of the site. This became known as the CowboyNeal option.[47] During the summer of 2005, he stopped being in charge of the polls, and as a result the CowboyNeal option all but disappeared. Science – news on science-related topics (e.g. cool technology, space telescope observations, interesting medical research). Your Rights Online (YRO) – news on topics pertaining to internet privacy and digital rights. Tags[edit] Slashdot uses a system of "tags" where users can categorize a story to group them together and sorting them. Tags are written in all lowercase, with no spaces, and limited to 64 characters. For example, articles could be tagged as being about security or mozilla. Some articles are tagged with longer tags, such as whatcouldpossiblygowrong (expressing the perception of catastrophic risk), suddenoutbreakofcommonsense (used when the community feels that the subject has finally figured out something obvious), correlationnotcausation (used when scientific articles lack direct evidence; see correlation does not imply causation), or getyourasstomars (commonly seen in articles about Mars or space exploration).[48][49] Culture[edit] Tux, the Linux Penguin See also: Internet meme and List of Internet phenomena As an online community with primarily user-generated content, many in-jokes and internet memes have developed over the course of the site's history. A popular meme (based on an unscientific Slashdot user poll[50]) is, "In Soviet Russia, noun verb you!"[51] The phrase was actually originated by Ukrainian-born comedian Yakov Smirnoff as his famous Russian reversal – "In America, you can always find a party. In Soviet Russia, The Party can always find you!"[52] Other popular memes usually pertain to computing or technology, such as "Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these",[53] "But does it run Linux?",[54] or "Netcraft now confirms: BSD (or some other software package or item) is dying."[55] Some users will also refer to seemingly innocent remarks by correcting them and adding "you insensitive clod!" to the statement – a reference to a February 14, 1986, Calvin & Hobbes cartoon[56] or the 11th season The Simpsons episode, Last Tap Dance in Springfield, wherein Frink exclaims to Homer, "I was merely trying to spare the girl's feelings, you insensitive clod!" Users will also typically refer to articles referring to data storage and data capacity by inquiring how much it is in units of Libraries of Congress.[57] Slashdotters often use the abbreviation TFA which stands for The fucking article or RTFA (Read the fucking article), which itself is derived from the abbreviation RTFM.[58] Usage of this abbreviation often exposes comments from posters who have not read the article linked to in the main story. Slashdotters typically like to mock United States Senator Ted Stevens' 2006 description of the Internet as a "series of tubes"[59][60] or Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer's chair-throwing incident from 2005.[61][62] Microsoft founder Bill Gates is a popular target of jokes by Slashdotters, and all stories about Microsoft were once identified with a graphic of Gates looking like a Borg from Star Trek: The Next Generation.[63] Many Slashdotters have long talked about the supposed release of Duke Nukem Forever, which was promised in 1997 but was delayed indefinitely (the game was eventually released in 2011).[64] References to the game are commonly brought up in other articles about software packages that are not yet in production even though the announced delivery date has long passed (see vaporware). Having a low Slashdot user identifier (user ID) is highly valued since they are assigned sequentially; having one is a sign that someone has an older account and has contributed to the site longer. For Slashdot's 10-year anniversary in 2007, one of the items auctioned off in the charity auction for the Electronic Frontier Foundation was a 3-digit Slashdot user ID.[26][65] Traffic and publicity[edit] See also: Slashdot effect As of 2006, Slashdot had approximately 5.5 million users per month. As of January 2013, the site's Alexa rank is 2,000, with the average user spending 3 minutes and 18 seconds per day on the site and 82,665 sites linking in.[1] The primary stories on the site consist of a short synopsis paragraph, a link to the original story, and a lengthy discussion section, all contributed by users. Discussion on stories can get up to 10,000 posts per day. Slashdot has been considered a pioneer in user-driven content, influencing other sites such as Google News and Wikipedia.[66][67] There has been a dip in readership as of 2011, primarily due to the increase of technology-related blogs and Twitter feeds.[68] In 2002, approximately 50% of Slashdot's traffic consisted of people who simply check out the headlines and click through, while others participate in discussion boards and take part in the community.[69] Many links in Slashdot stories caused the linked site to get swamped by heavy traffic and its server to collapse. This is known as the "Slashdot effect",[66][69] a term which was first coined on February 15, 1999 that refers to an article about a "new generation of niche Web portals driving unprecedented amounts of traffic to sites of interest".[67][70] Today, most major websites can handle the surge of traffic, but the effect continues to occur on smaller or independent sites.[71] These sites are then said to have been Slashdotted. Slashdot has received over twenty awards, including People's Voice Awards in 2000 in both of the categories for which it was nominated (Best Community Site and Best News Site).[72] It was also voted as one of Newsweek's favorite technology Web sites and rated in Yahoo!'s Top 100 Web sites as the "Best Geek Hangout" (2001).[73] The main antagonists in the 2004 novel Century Rain, by Alastair Reynolds – The Slashers – are named after Slashdot users.[74] The site was mentioned briefly in the 2000 novel Cosmonaut Keep, written by Ken MacLeod.[75] Several celebrities have stated that they either checked the website regularly or participated in its discussion forums using an account. Some of these celebrities include: Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak,[76] writer and actor Wil Wheaton,[77] and id Software technical director John Carmack.[78] I posted this to see what it would look like on the beta website.. Can you see this? I can't. What is wrong? Is this why they call it beta? I hope someone will be able to fix this because I am not happy it is not working. Maybe after the beta test is over it will work. It sure doesn't work now. I am getting even sadder. PLEASE HELP ME!!!!! I will try again HI. I posted this to see what it would look like on the beta website.. If they call it beta isn't it supposed to be working? maybe they will fix Slashdot Beta and everyone will be happy again. Can you see this? I can't. What is wrong? Is this why they call it beta? I hope someone will be able to fix this because I am not happy it is not working. Maybe after the beta test is over it will work. It sure doesn't work now. I am getting even sadder. It seems to work on the old site but the beta site is not very good and is making me sad. sad sad sad. I am not very happy when Slashdot makes me very sad. What will happen to me when classic is GONE!!! I will try posting this on YouTube PLEASE HELP ME!!!!! A little history of Slashdot courtesy of Wikipedia. What it was before It was destroyed by Beta. I tried posting this before but could not see it with beta. What am I doing wrong? I guess I will have to keep on trying until I can read it. Maybe that is why they call it beta. I am sure they will fix everything and everyone will be happy again. Tell me if you can read this. I am really upset that I can not see my own posts Maybe that is why they call it beta. I am sure they will fix everything and everyone will be happy again. Can you see this? I can't. What is wrong? Is this why they call it beta? I hope someone will be able to fix this because I am not happy it is not working. Maybe after the beta test is over it will work. It sure doesn't work now. I am getting even sadder.PLEASE HELP ME!!!!! The origins of the site now known as Slashdot date back to July 1997 when Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda started a personal website called Chips & Dips, which featured a single "rant" each day about something that interested him – typically something to do with Linux or open-source software. At the time, Malda was a student at Hope College in Holland, Michigan, majoring in computer science. The site became Slashdot in September 1997 under the slogan "News for Nerds. Stuff that Matters," and quickly became a hotspot on the Web for news and information of interest to computer geeks.[4] The name "Slashdot" came from a somewhat "obnoxious parody of a URL" – when Malda registered the domain, he desired to make a name that was "silly and unpronounceable" – try pronouncing out, "h-t-t-p-colon-slash-slash-slashdot-dot-org".[5] By June 1998 the site was seeing as many as 100,000 page views per day and advertisers began to take notice.[4] By December 1998, Slashdot had net revenues of $18,000, yet its Internet profile was higher, and revenues were expected to increase. On June 29, 1999, the site was sold to Linux megasite Andover.net for $1.5 million in cash and $7 million in Andover stock at the IPO price. Part of the deal was contingent upon the continued employment of Rob Malda and Jeff Bates and on "the achievement of certain milestones". With the acquisition of Slashdot, Andover.net could now advertise itself as "the leading Linux/Open Source destination on the Internet".[6][7] Andover.net eventually merged with VA Linux on February 3, 2000,[8] which changed its name to SourceForge, Inc. on May 24, 2007, and became Geeknet, Inc. on November 4, 2009.[9] Slashdot's 10,000th article was posted after two and a half years on February 24, 2000,[10] and the 100,000th article was posted on December 11, 2009 after 12 years online.[11] During the first 12 years, the most active story with the most responses posted was the post-2004 US Presidential Election article "Kerry Concedes Election To Bush" with 5,687 posts. This followed the creation of a new article section, politics.slashdot.org, created at the start of the 2004 election on September 7, 2004.[12] Many of the most popular stories are political, with "Strike on Iraq" (March 19, 2003) the second-most-active article and "Barack Obama Wins US Presidency" (November 5, 2008) the third-most-active. The rest of the 10 most active articles are an article announcing the 2005 London bombings, and several articles about Evolution vs. Intelligent Design, Saddam Hussein's capture, and Fahrenheit 9/11. Articles about Microsoft and its Windows Operating System are popular—a thread posted in 2002 titled "What's Keeping You On Windows?" was the 10th-most-active story, and an article about Windows 2000/NT4 source-code leaks the most visited article with more than 680,000 hits.[13] Some controversy erupted on March 9, 2001 after an anonymous user posted the full text of Scientology's "Operating Thetan Level Three" (OT III) document in a comment attached to a Slashdot article. The Church of Scientology demanded that Slashdot remove the document under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. A week later, in a long article, Slashdot editors explained their decision to remove the page while providing links and information on how to get the document from other sources.[14] Slashdot Japan was launched on May 28, 2001 (although the first article was published April 5, 2001) and is an official offshoot of the US-based Web site. The site is currently owned by OSDN-Japan, Inc., and carries some of the US-based Slashdot articles as well as localized stories.[15][16] An external site, todhsalS, has reported selected stories published on Slashdot Japan in English since March 1, 2009.[17] On Valentine's Day 2002, founder Rob Malda proposed to longtime girlfriend Kathleen Fent using the front page of Slashdot.[18][19] They were married on December 8, 2002, in Las Vegas, Nevada.[20] Slashdot implemented a subscription service on March 1, 2002. Slashdot's subscription model works by allowing users to pay a small fee to be able to view pages without banner ads, starting at a rate of $5 per 1,000 page views – non-subscribers may still view articles and respond to comments, with banner ads in place.[21] On March 6, 2003, subscribers were given the ability to see articles 10 to 20 minutes before they are released to the public.[22] Slashdot altered its threaded discussion forum display software to explicitly show domains for links in articles, as "users made a sport out of tricking unsuspecting readers into visiting [Goatse.cx]."[23] April Fools' Day 2006 logo In observance of April Fools' Day (April 1) in 2006, Slashdot temporarily changed its signature teal color theme to a warm palette of bubblegum pink and changed its masthead from the usual, "News for Nerds" motto to, "OMG!!! Ponies!!!" Editors joked that this was done to increase female readership.[24] In another supposed April Fools' Day joke, User Achievement tags were introduced on April 1, 2009.[25] This system allowed users to be tagged with various achievements, such as "The Tagger" for tagging a story or "Member of the {1,2,3,4,5} Digit UID Club" for having a Slashdot UID consisting of a certain number of digits. While it was posted on April Fools' Day to allow for certain joke achievements, the system is real.[26] Slashdot unveiled its newly redesigned site on June 4, 2006, following a CSS Redesign Competition. The winner of the competition was Alex Bendiken, who built on the initial CSS framework of the site. The new site looks similar to the old one but is more polished with more rounded curves, collapsible menus, and updated fonts.[27] On November 9 that same year, Malda wrote that Slashdot attained 16,777,215 (or 224 1) comments, which broke the database for three hours until the administrators fixed the issue.[28] On January 25, 2011, Malda announced that the site launched its third major redesign in its 13.5-year history, which gutted the HTML and CSS, and updated the graphics.[29] On August 25, 2011, Malda announced that he was resigning as Editor-in-Chief of Slashdot, effective immediately. He did not mention any immediate plans for the future, other than spending more time with his family, catching up on some reading, and possibly writing a book.[30][31] His final farewell message received over 1,400 posts within 24 hours on the site.[32] On December 7, 2011, Slashdot announced that it would start to push what the company described as "sponsored" Ask Slashdot questions.[33] On March 28, 2012, Slashdot announced the launch of slashdot TV.[34] In September 2012, it was announced that Slashdot had been acquired by Dice Holdings, alongside other Geeknet websites including SourceForge and Freecode, for $20 million in cash.[2][35] Dice, owner of job listing and career websites, stated that there were no plans for major changes to Slashdot.[35] However, beginning October 1, 2013, the site is currently in "beta" for a new, controversial redesign that looks more like typical blog websites with the once elaborate comment system now replaced with a simpler one at the end.[36] Administration[edit] Team[edit] Rob Malda, Founder of Slashdot The site is owned by Dice Holdings. It was run by its founder, Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda, from 1998 until 2011. He shared editorial responsibilities with several other editors including Timothy Lord, Patrick "Scuttlemonkey" McGarry, Jeff "Soulskill" Boehm, Rob "Samzenpus" Rozeboom, and Keith Dawson.[37][38] Jonathan "cowboyneal" Pater is another popular editor of Slashdot, who came to work for Slashdot as a programmer and systems administrator. His online nickname (handle), CowboyNeal, is inspired by a Grateful Dead tribute to Neal Cassady in their song, "That’s It for the Other One". He is best known as the target of the usual comic poll option,[39] a tradition started by Chris DiBona.[40] Slash and peer moderation[edit] The administration of the site uses the Slash source code and database, a content management system available under the GNU General Public License.[41] Slashdot's editors are primarily responsible for selecting and editing the primary stories daily from submitters; they provide a one-paragraph summary for each and a link to an external site where the story originated. Each story becomes the topic for a threaded discussion among the site's users.[42] A user-based moderation system is employed to filter out abusive comments.[43] Every comment is initially given a score of -1 to +2, with a default score of +1 for registered users, 0 for anonymous users (Anonymous Coward), +2 for users with high "karma", or 1 for users with low "karma". As moderators read comments attached to articles, they click to moderate the comment, either up (+1) or down (1). Moderators may choose to attach a particular descriptor to the comments as well, such as normal, offtopic, flamebait, troll, redundant, insightful, interesting, informative, funny, overrated, or underrated, with each corresponding to a -1 or +1 rating. So a comment may be seen to have a rating of "+1 insightful" or "-1 troll".[38] Moderation points add to a user's karma, and users with high "karma" are eligible to become moderators themselves. The system does not promote regular users as "moderators" and instead assigns five moderation points at a time to users based on the number of comments they have entered in the system – once a user's moderation points are used up, they can no longer moderate articles (though they can be assigned more moderation points at a later date). Paid staff editors have an unlimited number of moderation points.[38][42][44] A given comment can have any integer score from -1 to +5, and registered users of Slashdot can set a personal threshold so that no comments with a lesser score are displayed.[42][44] For instance, a user reading Slashdot at level +5 will only see the highest rated comments, while a user reading at level -1 will see a more "unfiltered, anarchic version".[38] A meta-moderation system was implemented on September 7, 1999,[45] to moderate the moderators and help contain abuses in the moderation system. Meta-moderators are presented with a set of moderations that they may rate as either fair or unfair. For each moderation, the meta-moderator sees the original comment and the reason assigned by the moderator (e.g. troll, funny), and the meta-moderator can click to see the context of comments surrounding the one that was moderated.[42][44] Features[edit] Slashdot features discussion forums on a variety of technology- and science-related topics, or "News for Nerds", as its motto states. Articles are divided into the following sections:[46] Apple – news related to products from Apple Inc., such as Mac OS X or iPhone. Ask Slashdot – articles that seek advice from users about jobs, computer hardware, software glitches, philosophical problems, or more. Book Reviews – original book reviews on (not necessarily) tech books. BSD – news about the various modern versions of UNIX derived from the UCB distribution. Developers – news about software or programming. Features – original, feature-length articles. Games – gaming news. Geeks in Space – a web audio broadcast featuring several of the editors of Slashdot (outdated; no new episodes have been posted recently). Idle – miscellaneous and humorous articles, pictures, and videos. Interviews – interviews with various people related to science and technology. Information Technology (IT) – anything that people with "Information Technology" in their job description might be interested to know. Linux – news specific to the Linux operating system (any variant or distribution). Politics – news typically relevant to politics of the United States, but occasionally featuring international political news. It was originally created to cover the 2004 United States Presidential Election. Polls – a poll is usually run on the site in the right-hand margin, asking users their choice on a variety of topics. In the earlier years of the site, one of the options that could be selected was CowboyNeal, the handle of Jonathan Pater, an administrator of the site. This became known as the CowboyNeal option.[47] During the summer of 2005, he stopped being in charge of the polls, and as a result the CowboyNeal option all but disappeared. Science – news on science-related topics (e.g. cool technology, space telescope observations, interesting medical research). Your Rights Online (YRO) – news on topics pertaining to internet privacy and digital rights. Tags[edit] Slashdot uses a system of "tags" where users can categorize a story to group them together and sorting them. Tags are written in all lowercase, with no spaces, and limited to 64 characters. For example, articles could be tagged as being about security or mozilla. Some articles are tagged with longer tags, such as whatcouldpossiblygowrong (expressing the perception of catastrophic risk), suddenoutbreakofcommonsense (used when the community feels that the subject has finally figured out something obvious), correlationnotcausation (used when scientific articles lack direct evidence; see correlation does not imply causation), or getyourasstomars (commonly seen in articles about Mars or space exploration).[48][49] Culture[edit] Tux, the Linux Penguin See also: Internet meme and List of Internet phenomena As an online community with primarily user-generated content, many in-jokes and internet memes have developed over the course of the site's history. A popular meme (based on an unscientific Slashdot user poll[50]) is, "In Soviet Russia, noun verb you!"[51] The phrase was actually originated by Ukrainian-born comedian Yakov Smirnoff as his famous Russian reversal – "In America, you can always find a party. In Soviet Russia, The Party can always find you!"[52] Other popular memes usually pertain to computing or technology, such as "Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these",[53] "But does it run Linux?",[54] or "Netcraft now confirms: BSD (or some other software package or item) is dying."[55] Some users will also refer to seemingly innocent remarks by correcting them and adding "you insensitive clod!" to the statement – a reference to a February 14, 1986, Calvin & Hobbes cartoon[56] or the 11th season The Simpsons episode, Last Tap Dance in Springfield, wherein Frink exclaims to Homer, "I was merely trying to spare the girl's feelings, you insensitive clod!" Users will also typically refer to articles referring to data storage and data capacity by inquiring how much it is in units of Libraries of Congress.[57] Slashdotters often use the abbreviation TFA which stands for The fucking article or RTFA (Read the fucking article), which itself is derived from the abbreviation RTFM.[58] Usage of this abbreviation often exposes comments from posters who have not read the article linked to in the main story. Slashdotters typically like to mock United States Senator Ted Stevens' 2006 description of the Internet as a "series of tubes"[59][60] or Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer's chair-throwing incident from 2005.[61][62] Microsoft founder Bill Gates is a popular target of jokes by Slashdotters, and all stories about Microsoft were once identified with a graphic of Gates looking like a Borg from Star Trek: The Next Generation.[63] Many Slashdotters have long talked about the supposed release of Duke Nukem Forever, which was promised in 1997 but was delayed indefinitely (the game was eventually released in 2011).[64] References to the game are commonly brought up in other articles about software packages that are not yet in production even though the announced delivery date has long passed (see vaporware). Having a low Slashdot user identifier (user ID) is highly valued since they are assigned sequentially; having one is a sign that someone has an older account and has contributed to the site longer. For Slashdot's 10-year anniversary in 2007, one of the items auctioned off in the charity auction for the Electronic Frontier Foundation was a 3-digit Slashdot user ID.[26][65] Traffic and publicity[edit] See also: Slashdot effect As of 2006, Slashdot had approximately 5.5 million users per month. As of January 2013, the site's Alexa rank is 2,000, with the average user spending 3 minutes and 18 seconds per day on the site and 82,665 sites linking in.[1] The primary stories on the site consist of a short synopsis paragraph, a link to the original story, and a lengthy discussion section, all contributed by users. Discussion on stories can get up to 10,000 posts per day. Slashdot has been considered a pioneer in user-driven content, influencing other sites such as Google News and Wikipedia.[66][67] There has been a dip in readership as of 2011, primarily due to the increase of technology-related blogs and Twitter feeds.[68] In 2002, approximately 50% of Slashdot's traffic consisted of people who simply check out the headlines and click through, while others participate in discussion boards and take part in the community.[69] Many links in Slashdot stories caused the linked site to get swamped by heavy traffic and its server to collapse. This is known as the "Slashdot effect",[66][69] a term which was first coined on February 15, 1999 that refers to an article about a "new generation of niche Web portals driving unprecedented amounts of traffic to sites of interest".[67][70] Today, most major websites can handle the surge of traffic, but the effect continues to occur on smaller or independent sites.[71] These sites are then said to have been Slashdotted. Slashdot has received over twenty awards, including People's Voice Awards in 2000 in both of the categories for which it was nominated (Best Community Site and Best News Site).[72] It was also voted as one of Newsweek's favorite technology Web sites and rated in Yahoo!'s Top 100 Web sites as the "Best Geek Hangout" (2001).[73] The main antagonists in the 2004 novel Century Rain, by Alastair Reynolds – The Slashers – are named after Slashdot users.[74] The site was mentioned briefly in the 2000 novel Cosmonaut Keep, written by Ken MacLeod.[75] Several celebrities have stated that they either checked the website regularly or participated in its discussion forums using an account. Some of these celebrities include: Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak,[76] writer and actor Wil Wheaton,[77] and id Software technical director John Carmack.[78] I posted this to see what it would look like on the beta website.. Can you see this? I can't. What is wrong? Is this why they call it beta? I hope someone will be able to fix this because I am not happy it is not working. Maybe after the beta test is over it will work. It sure doesn't work now. I am getting even sadder. PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!

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