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Seattle Gets Takeout By Amazon

Unknown Lamer posted about a month ago | from the never-leave-home-again dept.

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Rambo Tribble (1273454) writes In their ongoing effort to capitalize on local business, Amazon has unveiled a "VERY gradual expansion unless things go gangbusters," of their Amazon Local services, namely takeout food ordering in Seattle. Rivalling smaller, more focused firms in the space, it appears the online giant is trying to wrap recommendations, ordering, and payments in a convenient Amazon bundle. And to think, "word of mouth" used to involve actual mouths.

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First Word (of mouth) (2)

Mal-2 (675116) | about a month ago | (#47325541)

It still does involve actual mouths. You have to open yours to taste the food to review it.

Re:First Word (of mouth) (2)

mythosaz (572040) | about a month ago | (#47326107)

I have a feeding tube, you insensitive clod.

Re:First Word (of mouth) (1)

Mal-2 (675116) | about a month ago | (#47326851)

I'm sorry Mister Ebert, but you are disqualified anyhow, on the grounds that you are compensated for your reviews.

Re:First Word (of mouth) (1)

Dishevel (1105119) | about a month ago | (#47327721)

and He sucks at reviewing.

Re:First Word (of mouth) (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47327861)

And he's dead.

Idea for a movie... (2)

Lab Rat Jason (2495638) | about a month ago | (#47325573)

Intrepid hacker discovers a way to intercept drones mid-flight and redirect. Takes food and leaves random garbage. All is chop suey until one day he intercepts a drone carying a kilo of cocane and wants to report it to the cops... but can't cause he'd have to admit to the hacking and theft.

Hollywood gold right there!

Re:Idea for a movie... (4, Interesting)

gstoddart (321705) | about a month ago | (#47325625)

No no no. You're doing it wrong.

Our intrepid hero uncovers evidence of massively illegal things done by the government.

Spends rest of movie running from all seeing big brother, trying to make his revelations public, only to find out nobody cares, and is far more interested in the latest episode of Big Brother.

Re:Idea for a movie... (1)

rogoshen1 (2922505) | about a month ago | (#47325731)

interesting choice of shitty reality TV show to name check. :)

Re:Idea for a movie... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47326037)

Why? Because to me, it seems the natural choice if your trying to really drive home the "big brother"-ness of it all.

Re:Idea for a movie... (1)

gstoddart (321705) | about a month ago | (#47326093)

Well, it wasn't accidental.

Re:Idea for a movie... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47326317)

Producer notes: There needs to be a knife fight scene with the main character and a Latino street gang while everyone is riding Segways. We already spent $300 million filming it so you're going to have to put that in somewhere. Also the main character needs to be a woman. Actually it needs to be Keira Knightley. Actually Keira Knightley but with makeup so she looks exactly like Morgan Freeman. Screw it... we'll just go with plan B, Mila Kunis.

Re:Idea for a movie... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47328525)

and a giant robotic spider.

Re:Idea for a movie... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47328573)

Who the hell returns a kilo of found coke?

Re:Idea for a movie... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47329119)

Someone who found ten kilos of coke.

Idea for a movie... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47325735)

why would anyone want to report a kilo of nose candy to the cops? Party like it's 1979, baby!

Re:Idea for a movie... (1)

Lab Rat Jason (2495638) | about a month ago | (#47325819)

'cause that's a different kind of movie... "brown chicken brown cow!"

What is the value? (2)

Mitreya (579078) | about a month ago | (#47325595)

Amazon has their value mostly in guaranteed/fast/free shipping and low prices. How are they going to break into this market?

Re:What is the value? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47325683)

Conslidation. Bundling.
It's in the summary.

Re:What is the value? (1)

NoNonAlphaCharsHere (2201864) | about a month ago | (#47326227)

It's really too bad that there's already historical precedent for "chaining people to oars" - otherwise, Amazon could patent it.

Re:What is the value? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47325691)

They are going to add value services to the market using role models set forth by previous pioneers!

Like this: http://metro.co.uk/2010/04/13/... [metro.co.uk]

Re:What is the value? (4, Insightful)

gstoddart (321705) | about a month ago | (#47325749)

Amazon has their value mostly in guaranteed/fast/free shipping and low prices.

And analytics which keep track of what you've bought and predict what you might buy. That way you buy more down the road.

How are they going to break into this market?

One stop shopping. While you're ordering whatever else you order from Amazon, you can also order a pizza.

And then subsequently, Amazon will give you recommendations for other places.

They'll break into it by offering it. And if people use it, they're in.

Re:What is the value? (1)

Obfuscant (592200) | about a month ago | (#47328323)

One stop shopping. While you're ordering whatever else you order from Amazon, you can also order a pizza.

"Your order for 'Enders Game' in hardbound is almost complete. Would you like fries with that?"

Re:What is the value? (1)

alexander_686 (957440) | about a month ago | (#47325981)

Amazon tends to be tight lipped on they actually will make money on new things (and they like getting into new things) but I would guess

Delivery: Amazon is slowly / experientially pushing into delivering goods for the last mile. They are building out their delivery service for same day delivery of many goods. Here may be another way to squeeze value out of their delivery trucks.

Amazon Prime / Fire table & phone service: Less sure exactly how this would make money, but in general making their services a bit more sticky, taking a deeper peek into consumer wallets, etc.

Re:What is the value? (3, Insightful)

Jawnn (445279) | about a month ago | (#47325995)

Amazon has their value mostly in guaranteed/fast/free shipping and low prices. How are they going to break into this market?

Wait... What? You mean delivering small, low margin items, on a local basis, is not a viable business model? Well, shit... Wish somebody'd told us.

- Kozmo.com

Re:What is the value? (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about a month ago | (#47327181)

There was a period in time where pretty much everyone in my group (including the student helpers) would order snacks, daily, from kozmo.com. The problem was they'd order them independently over a span of a few hours. So the delivery guy would have to make multiple trips to our building to deliver a candy bar, then a pint of Ben & Jerrys, then some licorice or a can of pop.

It really isn't a sustainable model when you have to send a guy out just to deliver a Snickers bar.

Re:What is the value? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47328639)

Interestingly enough, I heard at the time Kozmo folded, they were actually profitable in Seattle (and maybe one other city). Obviously not enough to sustain all the unprofitable cities, but it suggests that Amazon might be successful there as well.

Re:What is the value? (1)

praxis (19962) | about a month ago | (#47328703)

You mean delivering small, low margin items, on a local basis, is not a viable business model? Well, shit... Wish somebody'd told us.

- Kozmo.com

I heard somewhere that they will be re-launching.

Re:What is the value? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47326117)

With Prime, you get your food in 2 days.

Considering how much their employees... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47325835)

hate working, I would never want to eat food they've touched. As we keep hearing here in Seattle from one informative article after another from the Seattle PI, Seattle Times, and The Stranger, amazon.com is an absolutely horrible and abusive company to work for. When my sister worked there, she attempted suicide. It only took three months of working for a violent, racist Republican before it got to her. I think the The Stranger has published at least two dozen articles the past year about how that company fucks over employees and tries to get them to become so hopeless that all they do is work. That is their typical plan, and they know the ones that commit suicide are just the typical side-effect of a Republican-run company.

No way I'd eat food handled by someone so stupid they'd work for amazon.com.

Re: Considering how much their employees... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47326805)

Yeah, like your sister.

Re: Considering how much their employees... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47327097)

Good one! :)

Captcha: Scalar

Good one! :)

Re:Considering how much their employees... (1)

Attila Dimedici (1036002) | about a month ago | (#47327077)

working for a violent, racist Republican

I thought we were talking about Amazon. Jeff Bezos is a Democrat, or at least, the overwhelming majority of his political donations are to Democratic Party candidates and causes.

Re:Considering how much their employees... (1)

Dishevel (1105119) | about a month ago | (#47327813)

Shhh!

Your fucking it up!

Not really. If facts mattered at all to the general public the world would be a different place. Instead its all about "Messaging".

Re:Considering how much their employees... (1)

NoNonAlphaCharsHere (2201864) | about a month ago | (#47327823)

You misspelled "plutocrat". Which, I suspect, is what the OP really meant.

Re:Considering how much their employees... (1)

Attila Dimedici (1036002) | about a month ago | (#47328127)

Well, if he meant Democrat he should have said so.

Customers Who Bought White Castle Also Bought (1)

NoNonAlphaCharsHere (2201864) | about a month ago | (#47325897)

Doritos
Zig-Zag Rolling Papers
Twinkies
Fudgesicles
Cracker Jack
Root Beer
Pop Tarts

Re:Customers Who Bought White Castle Also Bought (1)

HornWumpus (783565) | about a month ago | (#47326027)

Pepto.

They should put it back again. (1)

TechyImmigrant (175943) | about a month ago | (#47325921)

I read that as "Seattle gets taken out by Amazon".

Well good.

Re:They should put it back again. (1)

MrP- (45616) | about a month ago | (#47326307)

Same here. I was like wow some Seattle-based book publisher must have really pissed them off this time!

Re:They should put it back again. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47327459)

Read as "Seattle gets Takedown by Amazon" and all I could think is -- wow, will everyone have to evacuate until the DCMA gets evaluated?!?

Re: They should put it back again. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47328555)

Wow same here.

I thought the same, and realized that's exacty what they meant.

At least in the dating sense of being "taken out on a date".

Word of Finger? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47326131)

And to think, "word of mouth" used to involve actual mouths.

Maybe we should switch to "word of finger". Although I guess that could be taken the wrong way ...

On letter off (1)

slapout (93640) | about a month ago | (#47326439)

Misread as "Seattle Gets Taken out By Amazon".

Drones gone haywire maybe.

Amazon... the Taco Bell of 2032? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47326513)

So, I expect all my take out (and eat in) meals to be delivered by the infamous 'Amazon' by 2032, while I watch John Spartan battle wits with Simon Phoenix?

Seattle has a date? Nice!!! (1)

Nyder (754090) | about a month ago | (#47326535)

Well it's about time someone takes out Seattle. Ever since we legalized marijuana, Seattle has just been sitting in a cloud of smoke. I think a date with Amazon will provide the kick Seattle needs to break out of this pot haze and become a productive city of the USA again!

Re:Seattle has a date? Nice!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47327769)

> Seattle has just been sitting in a cloud of smoke.

Bullshit. The liquor control board has not allowed a single store to open yet. Also, there are more laws, rules, and fines wrt marijuana than there were before this fake legalization so there have been many more arrests. Also, it is still illegally federally so it is still very hard to find. I have never even seen it in the Seattle area.

Re:Seattle has a date? Nice!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47328823)

On July 7th the licenses will be given out, and the stores will be able to open on the 8th.

And I'd like to see the evidence of there being more arrests.

Re:Seattle has a date? Nice!!! (1)

painandgreed (692585) | about three weeks ago | (#47333465)

> Seattle has just been sitting in a cloud of smoke.

Bullshit. The liquor control board has not allowed a single store to open yet. Also, there are more laws, rules, and fines wrt marijuana than there were before this fake legalization so there have been many more arrests. Also, it is still illegally federally so it is still very hard to find. I have never even seen it in the Seattle area.

Then I propose that you are not in the Seattle area. Even before it was legal, I could run across people smoking it on the street twice a week while walking around doing my own business. Now it's about double that. Essentially, everybody who used to smoke pot still does and does so openly. Even before it was generally legal, there were green cards for the giving by sympathetic doctors and stuff being distributed by sympathetic green card holders. Most of the pot enforcement has been on the medical marijuana dispensaries who are openly breaking the law. Even then, there was a news article how the police found suppliers of such growing too many plants, 2000 when they are allowed 45. The police took the extra plants, leaving them with 45, and left without ticketing anybody. If you really are in the Seattle area and haven't seen lots of pot, then you are probably too old to have any connections and your friends are boring.

Re:Seattle has a date? Nice!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47339335)

I seriously doubt you've ever seen it in public here. I've lived here 42 years, and I have never seen marijuana in private, much less in public. It is still illegal to smoke in public even after this half-ass legalization attempt. In fact, this fake legalization effort has actually clarified the law on just how much more illegal it is now. The SPD will still ticket you. The ticket is only $27, but it certainly is illegal.

Re:Seattle has a date? Nice!!! (1)

Nyder (754090) | about three weeks ago | (#47342655)

I seriously doubt you've ever seen it in public here. I've lived here 42 years, and I have never seen marijuana in private, much less in public. It is still illegal to smoke in public even after this half-ass legalization attempt. In fact, this fake legalization effort has actually clarified the law on just how much more illegal it is now. The SPD will still ticket you. The ticket is only $27, but it certainly is illegal.

Born and raised in Seattle (45 years) and I can state for a fact that me & my friends have no problem smoking it outside, on the street. I pass by people almost every day on Capital Hill that are smoking since the decriminalization of it. Before that, I'd run into people smoking weed outside about once a week.

And I'm going to point out, if you've never seen anyone smoke marijuana in private, I'm not surprised you haven't seen anyone smoke it in public. You seem to have a very sheltered life, mainly if you lived in Seattle for 42 years and haven't seen any sight of the mighty marijuana. Shit, I grew up in this christian home, where we had to go to church and follow all those rules. I was a pretty naive kid and a bit sheltered, but I not only had seen marijuana by the time I was in 6th grade, I'd seen peeps smoke it and knew what it smelt like. Yes, in Seattle, the place you claim no one smokes.

We don't care if smoking outside is illegal. We didn't care that smoking weed was illegal a year ago when we smoked it, we didn't care 20 years ago when we were smoking it. It didn't stop us. So thinking that saying it's illegal and you'll get ticketed by the Seattle Pigs is really pointless. We don't give a fuck. Either take a hit off that joint, or pass it.

Re:Seattle has a date? Nice!!! (1)

painandgreed (692585) | about three weeks ago | (#47350705)

We don't care if smoking outside is illegal. We didn't care that smoking weed was illegal a year ago when we smoked it, we didn't care 20 years ago when we were smoking it. It didn't stop us. So thinking that saying it's illegal and you'll get ticketed by the Seattle Pigs is really pointless. We don't give a fuck. Either take a hit off that joint, or pass it.

Pretty much. The police went to great efforts to make sure that if anything happened, their role in legalization was clear, and that pretty much boiled down to that they don't have to give a damn. Sure, there's a ticket for smoking it in public, just like there is for jaywalking. I suspect that Seattle will end up giving out both tickets in the same situations, either because you're really unlucky or talking back to a cop who asked you politely not to do what you are doing. Getting such a ticket will be a mark of honor that you can show your friends from out of state. I've known enough cops to guess that if somebody complained to a cop about not having a legal place to buy it, they'd just look at them funny and say "Jesus Christ, where were you getting it before it was legal? Just back there, they still have it."

Re:Seattle has a date? Nice!!! (1)

painandgreed (692585) | about three weeks ago | (#47350655)

I seriously doubt you've ever seen it in public here. I've lived here 42 years, and I have never seen marijuana in private, much less in public.

Hah! You probably do all the time but just don't know it.

Then again, you're just an agumentative AC who is probably just trolling.

What next? (1)

CosaNostra Pizza Inc (1299163) | about a month ago | (#47326749)

fast food delivery by flying drone?

$15 minimum wage (1)

TheSync (5291) | about a month ago | (#47327189)

I wonder how this will work with Seatttle's new $15 minimum wage that is coming...

drivers need commercial auto insurance to be cover (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about a month ago | (#47327539)

drivers need commercial auto insurance to be covered as most plans DO NOT COVER FOOD delivery and then could levee the victim holding the bag for there bills and amazon may get out of it by makeing the drivers independent contractors but still having employee like control over them.

Re:$15 minimum wage (1)

sjames (1099) | about a month ago | (#47327579)

Since Amazon is probably well aware of the law in Seattle and they are going forward with it, apparently the numbers work OK.

Don't drink the cool aid being offered by corporate America. Raising the minimum wage will not trigger the apocalypse (zombie or otherwise).

Re:$15 minimum wage (1)

TheSync (5291) | about three weeks ago | (#47335757)

Since Amazon is probably well aware of the law in Seattle and they are going forward with it, apparently the numbers work OK.

I think the point is that restaurants that already have delivery drivers (such as pizza parlors) may be more willing to outsource delivery to Amazon in order to not have to pay the higher minimum wage to the delivery people on their payroll.

[BTW, why should I worry about the minimum wage rise? I'm not a young, low-skill worker. If they loose their job, it is not my problem...until they decide to become self-employed entrepreneurs and rob me at gun point]

another (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47327205)

Fuck Amazon. No, really. I live in Seattle, and I'm horrified by the malignant monster that is Amazon, stomping on local businesses and screwing up the city. For years there's been a pleasant clean-cut appearance of the corporate entity, interrupted by an occasional expose about how they burn thru tech workers, and are downright nasty to folks in the warehouses. But the recent visibility of the Sicilian-heavy portion of the corp personality (for example, extorting lower rates from Hachette by posting fake product availability delays) is just the tip of the iceberg. They're no different than WalMart in that way -- they're going to maintain their margin despite the squeeze from high volume shipping and returns... by squeezing the supplier, and the weakest ones get squeezed the hardest.

Which means....
High volume low cost food would be the only thing to survive Amazon's business model, and with local businesses in Seattle taking a hit from the overzealous $15 min wage that just got passed (good intentions gone terribly awry), there's no way that Marco's Noodle House and Jane's Discount Sushi are going to be able to lower their prices enough to compete in the Amazon marketplace. If this gains momentum, a dozen or so high-volume food producers (maybe the likes of Denny's and Old Spaghetti factory, which work at a fast-food volume and pace?) will do well, and every other neighborhood restaurant will get fucked.

Awesome (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47328677)

I can't wait until theirs is the only game in town and only works if you follow a hideously long serious of steps using particular software and browsers.

Think audible for food.

Like everything nowadays, it's a PR tool... (1)

Roger Wilcox (776904) | about a month ago | (#47328851)

Word of mouth still does and always will involve real contact with real people. This kind of "public" online "review" is nothing more than a vehicle for revenue. Can anyone say "Astroturf?"

I misread that title... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47329279)

Heh. When I first read the title of this, I saw, "Seattle gets taken out by Amazon."

It's not Google with the killer robots, it's Amazon! ;)

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